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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1284

    PUBYAC Digest 1284

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Amelia Bedelia read-alikes
by "Julie Rothenfluh" <jrothenfluh@lib.naperville.il.us>
  2) STUMPER:  The Christmas Tree
by Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
  3) oops! stumper...poem...with the info this time
by Nancy Thelen <nthelan@monroe.lib.mi.us>
  4) Challenge to the title Girl Culture
by Kim Wolfe <kwolfe@jcls.org>
  5) RE: PUBYAC digest 1283 the 'other' librarian - a positive image?
by <ccarey@trlib.org>
  6) Out of Building Programs
by "Margaret Korenski" <MKORENSKI@vigo.lib.in.us>
  7) Leap Frog Response
by Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
  8) Stumper - little boy and kitten
by Susan Anderson-Newham <snewie@yahoo.com>
  9) Book group suggestions
by "Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net>
 10) Re: children's desk ideas
by Vicky Smith <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
 11) RE: the 'other' librarian - a positive image?
by "Adelaide Rowe" <Adelaide.Rowe@egvpl.org>
 12) Fri. the 13th (fwd)
by Hegquist <dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 13) Re: the 'other' librarian - a positive image?
by Rebecca Rankin <rlrankin@sharon.lib.wi.us>
 14) Employment Opportunity - Lib YA - KCLS
by "Christy Strzelecki" <cstrzele@kcls.org>
 15) books on audio guidelines
by "Kapila Sankaran" <ksankaran@springfieldpubliclibrary.com>

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From: "Julie Rothenfluh" <jrothenfluh@lib.naperville.il.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Amelia Bedelia read-alikes
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:00:46 CST

Thanks to everyone who offered a suggestion.  Here are the suggestions I
got:

The Moris and Boris books, by Bernard Wiseman
Junie B. Jones, Barbara Park
All of Our Noses Are Here, & Other Noodle Tales, Alvin Schwartz
There Is a Carrot in My Ear..., Alvin Schwartz
The No-Nothings and Their Baby, Anne Mazer
The Happy Hocky Family, Lane Smith
The Happy Hocky Family Moves to the Country, Lane Smith
Dumb Bunnies series, Dav Pilkey
The Stupids series, Harry Allard
Gooney Bird Greene, Lois Lowry
How Tia Lola Came to Visit, Julia Alvarez
Deputy Dan books, Joseph Rosenbloom
joke books

Thanks again to everyone!



Julie Rothenfluh
Children's Services Supervisor
Nichols Library/Naperville Public Library
NAPERVILLE'S NEIGHBORHOOD OF KNOWLEDGE

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From: Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER:  The Christmas Tree
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Hi All,

A patron has a request for a book she thinks is entitled "The Christmas
Tree."  She says it is about a tree that becomes a Christmas tree for
Jesus.  She apologized for the vague description, but I told her I would
post it to this great list serv I belong to and see what happens.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Toni

Toni Reese
Youth Services Librarian
Sump Memorial Library
Papillion NE
treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us

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From: Nancy Thelen <nthelan@monroe.lib.mi.us>
To: "PUBYAC@prairienet.org" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: oops! stumper...poem...with the info this time
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:02:48 CST

Oops! I didn't realize I couldn't forward to PUBYAC. Here is the
information about the poem from a colleague:


 I have a retire school teacher who is looking for a poem that
states caterpillars turn into beautiful
butterflies.  She was a 1st grade teacher, and one of her former
students, who is now in the 3rd grade, has finished her
last chemotherapy treatment.  The teacher has bought a butterfly
for this child, and would like to send the poem with it.
Your help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Please reply to me and I will forward the information.
Thanks, Nancy

--
Nancy Thelen
920 W. Michigan Ave
Three Rivers Public Library
Three Rivers, MI
nthelan@monroe.lib.mi.us

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From: Kim Wolfe <kwolfe@jcls.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Challenge to the title Girl Culture
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:29:21 CST

Has anyone had a challenge to the  book Girl Culture by Lauren
Greenfield?  Our Library Director decided to retain the title in the Young
Adult collection, but the patron has appealed that decision to our Library
Advisory Committee.  If any of you have had experience with this title, I
would appreciate any information you could share.
Anne Guevara
Jackson County Library
Young Adult Services
amg@jcls.org

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From: <ccarey@trlib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: PUBYAC digest 1283 the 'other' librarian - a positive image?
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If you are looking for an image of a librarian other than "Marian," you =
all might be interested in the adult book, The Dewey Decimel System of =
Love by Josephine Carr.  A fellow librarian recommended it to me and I =
am laughing my way through it.  It's about a 40-year-old head of =
reference, who is a born-again virgin.  She is now madly in love with =
the married conductor of the Philadephia Symphony (whose wife may or may =
not be writing a murder mystery).  Each chapter has a heading with a =
Dewey number appropriate for that chapter, and some of the scenes are a =
little raunchy, but not too raunchy.
=20
Cindi Carey
Lacey, Washington

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From: "Margaret Korenski" <MKORENSKI@vigo.lib.in.us>
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Subject: Out of Building Programs
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This may have been a topic covered earlier, but our YP department is =
looking to do some programs out of building by going to the elementary =
schools--either for a program specifically targeted to grades and 1 and 2 =
that would be educational and informative and that would also meet =
curriculum standards. =20

We would also like to take a program out to the schools' after-school care =
programs that would involve a greater range in grade levels.  We would =
want it to also be educational and informative, but it would have to be a =
more active program considering that the children have been in school in a =
structured setting all day.

Does anyone have any experience in doing either of these types of =
programs?  Or do you have suggestions that might be helpful?

Please respond to
mkorenski@vigo.lib.in.us=20

Many Thanks,
Margaret Korenski =20

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From: Christina Johnson <marionthelibrarian@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Leap Frog Response
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:35:12 CST


Several of you were interested in the response to my request for information
regarding Leap Frog products.  Here is a compilation of the responses.
Thanks to all who responded!

Chrissy,

Presently we have one Leap Pad and 3 booklets.  They go out
quite a bit.  I
know one library on PUBYAC has 15 Leap pads that they loan out.
Parents
appreciate the items.  I just need to order more books!

Amy Blake
ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us

Hi-
We love our Leap Frog collection.  We purchased our readers from
LeapFrog Schoolhouse
http://www.leapfrogschoolhouse.com/home/index.asp.  These
readers are
sturdier than the ones you might find at Target and are only $10
more
expensive.  We have 10 readers and have only had to replace 1 in
the
past year (somebody borrowed it and it never came back).  We
purchased
our original collection of books through LeapFrog Schoolhouse
(30-40
books).  They are never in and we often have to put holds on
them for
customers.  We now purchase through amazon.com also, because
they offer
some of the pop culture items (Scooby Doo, Spongebob).

We bought some bags through Janway and circulate them as kits
(book and
cartridge).  The readers are a separate kit and we keep them at
the
reference desk when they are checked in (almost never).

Good luck!
Lisa


Lisa Mulvenna
Youth Services Librarian
Clinton-Macomb Public Library
16800 24 Mile Road, Suite 2
Macomb, MI 48042
(586) 226-5085
(586) 226-5088 fax
lisa@cmpl.org



Hi Chrissy,We purchased 1 Leap Pad last year.  We circulate it in a padded
lap top case.  There was a huge demand when it first came out, parents
wanted to try it before buying it last Christmas.  Now, the individual books
& cartridges are more popular than the unit itself.   We put them in plastic
hanging bags & they circ quite well.  We have had to replace our Leap Pad
once so far, after only 35 circs.  I think someone picked the unit up by the
cord & the connection was damaged.  I think our parents like having the
collection.  Terry Zignego

Christina,Our library (smaller, suburban, public library) purchased over 50
LeapPad book/cartridge sets this past year. They have circulated very well,
with minimal damage so far. The first bunch we bought with a PO at our local
Toys R Us. The second bunch we bought through the LeapFrog SchoolHouse
Matching Grant. They circulate in plastic AV bags, and I was originally
worried about the spiral binding not holding up, but I have only withdrawn 2
or 3 in the past couple months. This service was really appreciated by our
parents who bought LeapPads for thier kids and then discovered that they
needed to spend 15$ every time they wanted another book.Also with the
Matching Grant, we purchased 10 LeapPad's to circulate. We were more worried
about damage to these, as they are worth 50$ per pad, but they've been in
circulation for six months and we haven't had to charge anyone yet. They
came in their own little backpacks, so that's how we circ them. Each one has
to be plugged in and tested
 when it comes back to be sure that is still works. Again, our public was
very excited about this services, and we haven't had more than three in at a
time since we started.All in all, the service has been a success so far. It
added a little trouble to our check in process. I worry about the fad
passing, and getting stuck with this format that no one uses anymore, and
the LeapPads are expensive to replace if someone does ruin one, but so far,
neither of those things have happened. If you have any questions about our
LeapPad collection, feel free to e-mail me.Chrissy BraunStow-Munroe Falls
Public LibraryStow, OHcbrobst66@hotmail.com



chrissy,we circulate both the readers and the books &cartridges, and they
are very popular. we purchasedthe second level reader (opens like a book).
they arein Janway bags with the AC adapter and a page ofinstructions. We
opted not to include the head phones.they are kept at the YS desk so patrons
have to askfor them. the book & cartridges are also in Janwaybags and hang
with our other book & cassette kits. thetitles we purchased are mostly
beginning readers andeasy chapter stories as well as some of the math
&science. basically whatever is available for kidsthrough 2nd grade. I know
they have material for olderkids, but I view them as a tool for the
beginningreaders.We purchsed the readers directly through the leappadcompany
in teh belief that they are sturdier than theones purchased at Meijers. the
books we have gottenthrough Amazon, though if I were able to I would go
toone of the local stores and just fill my cart.good luckdeb bodnerYS
librarian



We just started circ'ing LeapFrog stuff the last week in October andit's
been a HUGE hit!  We purchased about 50 titles (all differentlevels) and 4
LeapPads and 2 QuantumPads.  Everything circs for 28days and there are no
renewals.  The hold list for the LeapPad andQuantumPad players is pretty
long and the worst thing is that wesometimes have the player waiting to be
picked up, and then when thepatron comes in we don't have any books!  We
just spent another $500on books because they're always gone.We have green
bags from Janway that we use to circulate all LeapPadmaterials, so they hang
off a rack like our book/tape kits andCD-ROMs.  We have a limit of 1 pad and
4 books that can be checkedout (but of course that's per card so family
members can get more)."LeapFrog" is listed as the author in the record, so
we can enterthat and pull up all of our titles AND pads.Here are some
issues:1.  We chose not to circulate the younger LeapFrog stuff (My
FirstLeapPad, etc.) but we're getting
 requests for them now and we don'thave a reason in our policy why we don't
buy them.2.  People don't understand that LeapPad and QuantumPad book
areinterchangeable, so they think if they see a LeapPad title they needthe
LeapPad.  I had suggested just buying all LeapPads, but mysupervisor felt
the older kids would want the QuantumPads so webought both.3.  I don't know
where we purchased our LeapPads, but they'respecially designed for schools,
so they're a little sturdier.Has it been a good thing?  LOL!  Well, it
hasn't been a problem.  Anddespite the fact that no one ever asked for
LeapFrog stuff, it is abig hit.HTH!Monica AndersonYouth Services
LibrarianGrace A. Dow Memorial LibraryMidland
Michiganm.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: Susan Anderson-Newham <snewie@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper - little boy and kitten
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:44:41 CST

Patron remembers from the early 70's a picture book
about a little boy who found a kitten. She remembered
he put the kitten in the stove to warm it, and fed it
tuna. And then some other boys hurt or killed the
kitten (sounds like a really upbeat children's
book!)The illustrations were quite realistic and
perhaps even photographs. Sound familiar to anyone of
you geniuses?
Thank you,
Susan Anderson-Newham
snewie@yahoo.com


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"A book is like a garden carried in the pocket" 
-Chinese Proverb-

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From: "Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Book group suggestions
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I have an ongoing book discussion group with mostly 8th graders -- good
readers; both genders.  I'm looking for suggestions for great
discussion-provoking titles -- anyone have some favorites?
Please reply off-list.
  TIA
Carol Levin
Enjoy Life! This is not a Dress Rehearsal!

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From: Vicky Smith <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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Quoting Cindy Christin <christin@mtlib.org>:

> Does anyone have a children's desk that they absolutely love?? We are in
> the final design stages for a new Library and are looking at desk ideas. .
> .  we'd appreciate hearing from anyone that has suggestions from the real
> world.

We've never been lucky enough to have a new desk designed from scratch, but
we
did get the $$ to buy new desks a few years ago.  We chose desks that
accommodate recessed monitors, so the littler children are not faced with a
spaghetti of wires instead of a welcoming face.  If you haven't thought of
this
already, I would strongly encourage incorporating recessed monitors into
your
desk design.


Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Library
270 Main Street
Biddeford, ME 04005
(207)284-4181
vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us

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From: "Adelaide Rowe" <Adelaide.Rowe@egvpl.org>
To: <trumpeter2@shaw.ca>, <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: the 'other' librarian - a positive image?
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:39:17 CST

Why can't it be a hot and sexy male librarian?=20

Adelaide Rowe
Head of Youth Services
Elk Grove Village Public Library
Elk Grove Village, Illinois 60007
arowe@egvpl.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Terrill [mailto:trumpeter2@shaw.ca]=20
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:48 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: the 'other' librarian - a positive image?

O my ..... I had another two bits in my pocket, so am throwing it in for
=3D
this topic .... briefly too.  On the topic of the image of =3D
librarians/library workers .... its been very 'Marion' for a long time,
=3D
but let us never forget the pendulum. I am thinking that the =3D
foxy-librarian on That 70's Show (a show that makes me laugh and I do =
=3D
enjoy). Could we agree to disagree and call it "another image of a =3D
librarian" rather than a positive one? Not really passing judgement, but
=3D
in the name of open minds and all things considered, I'm not sure if the
=3D
teacher/student mix pregnancey thing could be called good. More like an
=3D
issue of conversational interest. And the Playboy mag circulating =3D
question ...... wellllllllllll ......... I see so much theft that it =3D
would be pointless to have a subscription to them in any library! =3D
Idyllic may not quite be the right word to describe Point Place WI is =
=3D
all. Don't get me wrong, I'm not up in arms about whether this should be
=3D
on the show or not, but in deciding for ourselves regarding its merits,
=3D
I am not sure I want to be associated any more with the 70's show image
=3D
any more than I want to Marian, the maiden librarian!

Pondering with interest the new image we have, and all in all glad hear
=3D
it.

Terrill Scott
Fraser Valley Regional Library
British Columbia         Canada



"Let us read and let us dance, two amusements that will never do any =3D
harm to the world."     - Voltaire=3D

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From: Hegquist <dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Fri. the 13th (fwd)
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:39:52 CST


Hi Everyone,

Kathy Percoco and I both asked the list for ideas for a teen
program for Friday the 13th and as per Kathy's e-mail below, there were no
responses/ideas.  So, unfortunately, I do not have much to pass on.  I
have gotten an e-mail or two from a couple of librarians in regard to it
recently so if I get a few more, I'll post them.  (Thanks, Kathy.  Good
luck with all of your winter programs)

--Dana Hegquist, Southold Free Library, Long Island, NY

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat,  6 Dec 2003 10:18:12 -0500
From: Kathy Percoco <kpercoco@clarklibrary.org>
To: dhegquis@suffolk.lib.ny.us
Subject: Fri. the 13th

Hi, Dana --

I was the one who requested ideas for a teen program on Fri. the 13th.
Actually, I received NO ideas from the list, except for a couple of
librarians who suggested an un-Valentine party.

I like your suggestion of a movie night!  My other idea is to bring in a
handwriting analyst.  Maybe we'll do handwriting and a movie.

I do like the un-Valentine idea, too, but the PUBYAC ideas I saved were all
lost.

Good luck!

--
Kathy Percoco
Youth Services Librarian
Clark Public Library
303 Westfield Avenue
Clark, NJ  07066
http://www.clarklibrary.org
ph:  732-388-5999 x15
fax: 732-388-7866
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From: Rebecca Rankin <rlrankin@sharon.lib.wi.us>
To: trumpeter2@shaw.ca
Subject: Re: the 'other' librarian - a positive image?
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the "teacher/student mix pregnancy
thing".  I understand that some of you out there may be uncomfortable with a
sexy image of a librarian.  The point I was trying to make was that Shannon
Elizabeth's character isn't just physically attractive but that the show's
other characters acknowledge her intelligence, love of books and desire to
serve the public too.  I just think it's nice to see a young, lively, smart
librarian portrayed in the media.  I don't think any of us ever have to
worry about this becoming the dominant image of librarians.

Concerning the circulation of Playboy, I think it forces us to ask ourselves
why we don't subscribe to this publication.  Is it because of anticipated
theft problems, or is it because of the content of the magazine?  It is very
easy to self-censor and call it something else.  Just something to think
about.

Thank you for the feedback.

Sincerely,

Rebecca Rankin, Director
Brigham Memorial Library
131 Plain Street
Sharon, WI 53585
262-736-4249
rlrankin@sharon.lib.wi.us

----- Original Message -----
From: Terrill <trumpeter2@shaw.ca>
Date: Monday, December 8, 2003 10:48 pm
Subject: the 'other' librarian - a positive image?

> O my ..... I had another two bits in my pocket, so am throwing it
> in for =
> this topic .... briefly too.  On the topic of the image of =
> librarians/library workers .... its been very 'Marion' for a long
> time, =
> but let us never forget the pendulum. I am thinking that the =
> foxy-librarian on That 70's Show (a show that makes me laugh and I
> do =
> enjoy). Could we agree to disagree and call it "another image of a =
> librarian" rather than a positive one? Not really passing
> judgement, but =
> in the name of open minds and all things considered, I'm not sure
> if the =
> teacher/student mix pregnancey thing could be called good. More
> like an =
> issue of conversational interest. And the Playboy mag circulating =
> question ...... wellllllllllll ......... I see so much theft that
> it =
> would be pointless to have a subscription to them in any library! =
> Idyllic may not quite be the right word to describe Point Place WI
> is =
> all. Don't get me wrong, I'm not up in arms about whether this
> should be =
> on the show or not, but in deciding for ourselves regarding its
> merits, =
> I am not sure I want to be associated any more with the 70's show
> image =
> any more than I want to Marian, the maiden librarian!
>
> Pondering with interest the new image we have, and all in all glad
> hear =
> it.
>
> Terrill Scott
> Fraser Valley Regional Library
> British Columbia         Canada
>
>
>
> "Let us read and let us dance, two amusements that will never do
> any =
> harm to the world."     - Voltaire=
>
>

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From: "Christy Strzelecki" <cstrzele@kcls.org>
To: "PUBYAC \(E-mail\)" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Employment Opportunity - Lib YA - KCLS
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King County Library System Employment Opportunity - WA
=09
Librarian I-YA - Kenmore/Lake Forest Park Libraries (PT-20hrs) 1 =
position
=09
Perform reference, YA and other professional library services to meet =
the educational, recreational, & informational needs of the community. =
REQ: MLS degree/WA state certification as a librarian. Evidence of =
training, experience or study in a relevant functional area. Application =
deadline is Jan. 2, 2004. $24.46 per hr, plus excellent benefits. Visit =
our website for further details & App. Submit KCLS application, =
supplemental (attached to the job posting on our website), resume & =
cover letter to: HR, King County Library System, 960 Newport Way NW, =
Issaquah, WA 98027, 425 369-3224, Fax: 425-369-3214 www.kcls.org EOE

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From: "Kapila Sankaran" <ksankaran@springfieldpubliclibrary.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: books on audio guidelines
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:00:23 CST

dear list,

after being at this for 3 months now, i think i am slowly, slowly getting
the hang of collection development. i have a few rules of thumb that i use
when deciding what books to buy for the collection (based mostly on reviews,
patron requests, needs of the collection/weeding notes).

our audio collection of books on tape/cd, as well as its budget, is of
course a lot smaller.

i'm not yet quite sure how to maintain/develop this collection, beyond
taking patron requests and referring to the horn book's book/audio reviews.

what sorts of guidelines do you use when you are considering such items for
purchase?
do you buy any informational books on tape?
do you ever buy books on audio that you do not have in print?

your answers to the above, and any other thoughts you have in this area
would be a lot of help!

thanks for reading, as always!

cheers- kapila

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Kapila Sankaran, Youth Services Librarian
Springfield Free Public Library
66 Mountain Ave. Springfield NJ 07081
tel: 973.376.4930 x.232  fax: 973.376.1334
email: ksankaran@springfieldpubliclibrary.com
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