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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1299
PUBYAC Digest 1299
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Looking For Recommendations
by MalibuInc@aol.com
2) Winnie the Pooh Story Time
by Ann Crewdson <anncrewdson@yahoo.com>
3) re:SRP records, Excel or Access
by "Nancy B" <nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org>
4) answers ordering music CDs
by PATM <patm@selco.info>
5) children's rhyme stumper solved
by "Catherine Kyle" <ckyle@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
6) Stumper Poem/Song Help
by Domenica Simpson <dsimpson@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
7) [Fwd: SAM responses]
by "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
8) Generating interest in rural communities
by Cynde Suite <cyndecat@yahoo.com>
9) Weeding help, please
by Rebecca Amstutz <amstutre@oplin.org>
10) Holiday themes and decorations policies?
by "Lori Karns" <Lori.Karns@mail.co.ventura.ca.us>
11) Re: sf and fantasy
by Lorie O'Donnell <Lodonnell@midyork.org>
12) Subject : sf and fantasy
by Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us>
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From: MalibuInc@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Looking For Recommendations
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:26:26 CST
Dear Friends,
I am looking for recommendations in the following children's
book
categories:
1. Stories about the sea or mermaids and the like.
2. Stories about animals. Especially dogs.
3. Stories about monsters and or things which frighten children.
Any book recommendations you could send my way would be most
appreciated.
Sincerely Yours,
R. Preston
President
Malibu Books For Children
www.malibubooks.com
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From: Ann Crewdson <anncrewdson@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Winnie the Pooh Story Time
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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:26:46 CST
Hello pubyac,
AA Milne's birthday is coming up in January. I'm
having a Winnie the Pooh story time and was wondering
if you had some suggestions on what I should
use--books, fingerplays, etc? I remember a year ago
there were a lot of websites on Winnie the Pooh that
had games, like pin the tail on the Eeyore. I can't
seem to find too many of them now.
I promise to compile all the responses I receive and
share.
Thanks in advance,
Ann
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Ann Crewdson
Valley View Library
SeaTac, WA 98188
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From: "Nancy B" <nancyb@lewistownlibrary.org>
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Subject: re:SRP records, Excel or Access
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The past couple of years I have used Microsoft Excel to track my patrons
enroled in the summer reading program. I am wondering if Microsoft Access
could do a better job. Has anyone done this, what kind of records do you
keep, and how has it worked? Are you able to roll over data from one year
to the next?
Nancy Bostrom
Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library
Lewistown MT
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From: PATM <patm@selco.info>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: answers ordering music CDs
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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:27:14 CST
Thanks to all who responded with places to order music CDs from.
Included in the replies were Alliance Entertainment Corporation (AEC),
Newsound/Alcazar, Education Record Center, BWI, or for those of you
close to Wisconsin, North Side Music in Eau Claire.
Spot checking some titles I hadn't been able to locate, BWI came up with
most of them (bwibooks.com), so I am very pleased.
Thanks again!
Pat Martin
Red Wing Public Library
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From: "Catherine Kyle" <ckyle@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: children's rhyme stumper solved
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:27:27 CST
I want to thank Kelly Girard from Woodridge, IL for solving my rhyme =
problem. I'm a new librarian and I'm trying to find rhymes that I think =
the kids will be interested in for story time. Thanks again Kelly!
(BTW here's the rhyme)
Stop Your Motion
Clap your hands and STOP your motion.
Turn around and STOP your motion.
Touch your knees and STOP your motion.
Everybody run, run, run around the mountain.
Run, run, run around the mountain.
Run, run, run around the mountain.
Everybody STOP!
(Suit actions to words. Variations: skip around the mountain, hop, tip =
toe,=20
slide, etc.)
>From Ring a Ring o Roses by The Flint Public Library
Catherine Kyle
Youth Services Librarian
Parma Public Library
7 West Ave=20
Hilton, NY 14468
585-392-8350
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From: Domenica Simpson <dsimpson@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper Poem/Song Help
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:27:41 CST
Hi,
I have a patron who is searching for a poem that her 80-year-old mother
knew as a child. The first line of the poem is "Said Washington
to
Betsy Ross..." Her mother learned it in school some 70 or so years
ago. The poem is several verses long, and was once put to music. The
author is unknown. In the search we found a little more of the poem:
"Said Washington to Betsy Ross, a flag our nation needs, To lead our
loyal
soldiers on to brave and noble deeds. So can you make one for us, To
which
she made reply, "I am not certain that I can, but at least I'll gladly
try." So she took some red, for the blood they shed, some blue for
loyalty."
Does this ring a bell with anyone? We have exhausted the Internet, and
our print sources both for poems and patriotic song lyrics. If anyone
has any ideas, that would be great!
Domenica
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From: "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:27:56 CST
One more reply about SAM:
Kimberly Venzon wrote:
> After reading the negative responses, I had to throw in my two cents.
>
> We installed SAM at the Huntley Area Public Library last year. I have
since
> left that area, so I can't speak for their current experience. When
we
> started, everyone was required to type in their library card number in
order
> to log in and everyone who prints must have money on their card (so they
> must pay first) in order to print. We had one guest card that guests
had
to
> go to the circulation desk in order to read and sign the library computer
> agreement and then return the card when they were finished. We
allowed
> patrons with a card at another library to enter that library card number
> into the SAM database, just as they do at circulation.
>
> This allowed us to actually enforce the idea that children who can't read
> must have a parent with them--the parent could log them in using the adult
> card and since the card # can only be used at one computer at a time, they
> weren't able to drift away to their own terminal. If the child is old
> enough to have a library card and sit at the computer alone, they can
> easily read the numbers from the back and type them in--it isn't a skill
> that is beyond any other they must have in order to use a computer by
> themselves.
>
> In addition, forcing the payment before the printing actually allowed us
to
> let children print! We couldn't deal with the number of coloring
pages
and
> cheats that were being printed in multiple and left and had removed the
> kid's computers from the printing network. Patrons loved now being able to
> print what they needed and wanted. Staff could "add" money
to help out a
> kid who didn't have change but needed some homework printed -- I think it
> was great.
>
> Another fabulous benefit was logging kids off without personal
intervention
> and an electronic waiting list. After their time was up, the computer
> warned them and just kicked them out. No more arguing with crying
kids--the
> computer does it for you and is a wonderful scapegoat. The computer
then
> knew what patron was supposed to be next and wouldn't allow any other card
#
> to log in. We were looking forward to a more flexible reservation
module
> that was going to allow the kids and parents to monitor their own waiting
> list!
>
> I really liked SAM -- while I can't disagree with all of the technical
> problems, I don't think that is unusual for a program as sophisticated as
> SAM, and we got through them.
>
> Kimberly Venzon
> Children's Services Librarian
> Fountaindale Public Library District
> 300 West Briarcliff Road
> Bolingbrook, IL 60440
> 630-759-2102 ext. 16
>
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From: Cynde Suite <cyndecat@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Generating interest in rural communities
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:28:13 CST
As branch manager of a small rural library I am searching for ideas
that
will actually draw people out of their woodwork and get them to come
out
to the library. We have tried book chats on the one night we are open
late
in several different genres. In 7 months we had one person show up one
time "to meet other people" NOT to chat with the librarian.
It is embarassing to have a program planned and have no one show up. It
is
mostly the adults we have problems with, they will bring the children
out
to most children's programs.
So..., (particularly those of you in small rural communities and others
are welcomed) what works to draw a rural community in? What type of
programming? What type of publicity (and where do you put it?) What
times
and/or days of the week work best for you?
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From: Rebecca Amstutz <amstutre@oplin.org>
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Subject: Weeding help, please
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The time has come when my director is now wanting me to weed our picture
book collection. I am somewhat new to the library and have only weeded
the nonfiction so far and I am totally stumped on how to even start
weeding the picture books. Can anyone tell me what guidelines your
library goes by and how you decide if the books are not worth keeping?
I appreciate any responses.
You can send the responses directly to me or to the list, it doesn't
matter.
Thanks in advance,
Becky Amstutz
Youth Services Coordinator
Bluffton Public Library
amstutre@oplin.org
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From: "Lori Karns" <Lori.Karns@mail.co.ventura.ca.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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Please share with me any written policy or guidelines your PUBLIC library =
may have regarding holiday decorations or holiday storytimes sponsored by =
the library. We're revamping our current policy and I'd rather not have to =
wordsmith if someone else has good written guidelines.
=20
Background:
We used to have very minimal guidelines like "don't do a storytime that =
would be more appropriately done in a Sunday School or Temple School type =
situation." So Christmas storytimes were fine, as well as Kwanzaa, =
Hannukah and Ramadan, as long as they were educational, balanced, and =
enriching for kids.=20
Our current policy is that no child should feel disenfranchised by holiday =
decorations and storytimes in the public library promoting one holiday =
over another. So seasonal decorations are O.K. like generic wreaths and =
greenery. But Christmas trees, menorahs, Santa, Easter Bunnies, and so =
forth are not. Picture the public library as a religious holiday - =
hype-free zone, and you get the message.
So I would appreciate written guidelines to help us see how your library =
policy makers have described your current practices. Or guidelines you may =
have, in writing, for training volunteer storytellers in this matter.=20
Please reply offline or fax your guidelines to me. I really appreciate any =
assistance you can give.=20
Thanks
Lori Karns
Ventura County Library
phone 805 641-4449
fax 805 641-4444
Lori.Karns@mail.co.ventura.ca.us
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From: Lorie O'Donnell <Lodonnell@midyork.org>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org"
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Subject: Re: sf and fantasy
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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:28:51 CST
We keep all of our fiction (with the single exception of Mysteries)
interfiled with spine stickers for Fantasy and Sci Fi. It's tough
sometimes
to tell what is what when making the decisions.
Here are some definitions from the Web:
FICTION GENRE DEFINITIONS
Courtesy of Candice Furhman Literary Agency
Science Fiction: A book with a future-based plot which either extrapolates
upon existing scientific principles and theories or involves some deviation
from them. The key element of Science Fiction is believability; the plots
are to be understood literally, not metaphorically as in a novel such as
Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale, and therefore Sci Fi novels truly do
find their basis in real science, even if they are not restricted by it. The
genre is highly beholden to the culture and expectations of its cult-like,
primarily young male audience. Sci Fi has gathered a reputation as
essentially an unliterary genre, and Sci Fi writers who find mainstream
success (such as Ray Bradbury and Kurt Vonnegut) are often reclassified as
literary authors. Sub-types of the Sci Fi novel include Apocalypse,
Dystopia/Utopia, Space Travel, and Messianic.
Fantasy: Fantasy is often lumped together with Science Fiction, though the
two genres are quite different. Fantasy is based upon departure from
reality. James Gunn described the difference this way: where Sci Fi novels
represent an egalitarian world in which knowledge, not inherent abilities,
is the key to discovery, Fantasy novels are predicated on the belief that
some people are "special"; i.e., some people can cast spells or travel
to
parallel universes while other people cannot. But for both Sci Fi and
Fantasy, an utter suspension of disbelief is key. Fantasy sub-genres include
Fairy Tales, Arthurian Legend, and Sword and Sorcery.
Lorie
Bonita Kale said:
>
> Wasn't there a saying once that if it had green on the
> cover (trees, etc) it was fantasy and if didn't, it
> was science fiction? :)
>
> Yeah, I kinda wish that we could just keep sf and fantasy together.
They're
> so often the same authors and appeal to the same readers. If you push
a
> button, it's sf; if you wave a wand, it's fantasy. The Diane Duane
> children's fantasy books have worldgating and aliens and an intergalactic
> terminal like an airport, but they also have talking rowan trees and magic
> wands and spells. Someone mentioned Pern, which actually was hinting
at
> Terran origins from the first book, but a lot of people think a dragon
makes
> it fantasy. Darkover is sf with a definite fantasy "feel".
Lump 'em
> together I say, and let the readers sort 'em out.
>
> Bonita
>
>
Lorie J. O'Donnell
Children's Librarian
Jervis Public Library
Rome, NY 13440
lodonnell@midyork.org
--
A librarian's life is the life for me
For there's nothing at all to do, you see,
But to sit at a desk and read new books,
And admire yourself, and think of your looks.
To questioning souls one can tartly say:
"I can't be bothered with you to-day,
For I haven't finished this novel. See?"
A librarian's life is the life for me.
--William Fitch Smyth, "A Librarian's Life" (1910)
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From: Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:29:06 CST
I agree with Bonita, I would just shelve both SF and Fantasy together. In
fact, we shelve all of our genres together except for mysteries. We put
stickers on the spine identifying the various genres (historical, horse, SF,
Fantasy, etc.) We used to buy the stickers from Demco (I think) but now we
print them out on our computer and I think it's a lot, lot cheaper and gives
us more flexibility. We've created a few stickers that are specific to our
collection and our patrons requests (i.e. a Thomas the Tank sticker.)
Also,
another option would be to create bibliographies for the kids. We have
several genre bibliographies with our staff favorites listed. The kids
(and
especially the parents) love them and they are relatively inexpensive to
produce on our computers.
Happy Holidays,
Jennie
Jennie J. Stoltz
Children's Services Coordinator
F. L. Weyenberg Library
Mequon/Thiensville
www.flwlib.org
"A room without books is like a body without a soul." ~ Cicero
From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
Wasn't there a saying once that if it had green on the
cover (trees, etc) it was fantasy and if didn't, it
was science fiction? :)
Yeah, I kinda wish that we could just keep sf and fantasy together.
They're
so often the same authors and appeal to the same readers. If you push a
button, it's sf; if you wave a wand, it's fantasy. The Diane Duane
children's fantasy books have worldgating and aliens and an intergalactic
terminal like an airport, but they also have talking rowan trees and magic
wands and spells. Someone mentioned Pern, which actually was hinting at
Terran origins from the first book, but a lot of people think a dragon makes
it fantasy. Darkover is sf with a definite fantasy "feel".
Lump 'em
together I say, and let the readers sort 'em out.
Bonita
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