Issue 25
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Today's Topics:

   1. UK vs US titles (Joanna Andrew)
   2. Re: Current Issues in Librarianship (Beverly Kirkendall)
   3. RE: Looking for magazine selection criteria (Jodi Wingler)
   4. on-line registration for summer reading club and security
      (Smith, Mary)
   5. RE: playing games on adult/children's computers (Nicole Reader)
   6. concept books (Jennifer Baker)
   7. Narnia Program Ideas??? (Leslie Johnson)
   8. RE: Stumper Solver - NOT Hans Christian Andersen (Jennie Stoltz)
   9. TAR:  Beowulf (Robin Shtulman)
  10. book stumpers (Marsha Parham)
  11. Stumper-inventor (lhharris@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
  12. Stumper-- boy and pigeon (Margaret Brown)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:36:17 +0800
From: "Joanna Andrew" <Andrew.Joanna@stirling.wa.gov.au>
Subject: [PY] UK vs US titles
To: <pubyac@lists.prairienet.org>
Message-ID:
<72F575F1E6DE9B48927B7EB4E03364EA1C8393@cosexch1.stirling.wa.gov.au>
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Hi everyone,
Just thought you might be interested to know that in Australia we really suffer from the changes made to titles - as a smaller English speaking country we get our books from both the UK and US. Quite often a bookshop can have the first in a series with one title and cover, then the rest with the other titles and covers. Our readers in public libraries quite often get really excited and think that some author has written something new only to discover that it's a book they have already read with a different title. Drives us crazy!
The most obvious one was the first Harry Potter which was the sorcerer's stone in the US and the philosopher's stone in the UK (and in Australia). At a conference I asked publisher Arthur Levine why they did this as it was really frustrating, and he said it was always done in consultation with the author, and the "translations" made to terminology inside the book were to make sure the readers didn't hit a brick wall by not understanding a word or phrase, and so they can just keep reading and get drawn into the story.
I am glad that in Australia we have the option to understand that diapers and nappies are the same thing, not to mention lorries and trucks, car trunks and boots, and sidewalks and footpaths. Certainly improved my understanding of the world growing up, and made it all much more interesting.
Just my two cents worth (except we only have five cents in Oz!)
Joanna
Joanna Andrew
Young People's Services Librarian
City of Stirling
Grenville Hall
cnr Cape and Stoneham Streets
Tuart Hill   WA   6060
ph: 9202 3672
fax: 9202 3680
email: andrew.joanna@stirling.wa.gov.au



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:47:59 -0600
From: "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
Subject: Re: [PY] Current Issues in Librarianship
To: <pubyac@lists.prairienet.org>,<CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>,
<holly_m_buchanan@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <s0557bf2.027@mailhurst.ci.hurst.tx.us>
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>>> "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us> 3/14/04 2:15:59 PM >>>
Unattended children.  (Children dropped off at the library for hours,
or
not picked up at closing, young children left alone in the children's
room, unsupervised children running around, etc.)

I'll second that wholeheartedly! Especially those that are 1st grade
and younger--Internet orphans, mostly.
Beverly K.
Hurst Public Library
Hurst, TX



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:38:50 -0500
From: "Jodi Wingler" <jwingler@dpl.lib.in.us>
Subject: RE: [PY] Looking for magazine selection criteria
To: "April Mazza" <AMazza@minlib.net>, "MASSYAC"
<massyac@mlin.lib.ma.us>, "PUBYAC" <pubyac@lists.prairienet.org>
Message-ID:
<AFC022318276FE4B9385919787F6CA60054051@exchange.dpl.lib.in.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Yes, please!  Me too!  I am in the same situation and would like some
advice as well.  Thanks!

Jodi J. Wingler, MLS
Danville-Center Township Public Library

-----Original Message-----
From: April Mazza [mailto:AMazza@minlib.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 1:53 PM
To: MASSYAC; PUBYAC
Subject: [PY] Looking for magazine selection criteria

Hello all,
Does anyone out there have magazine selection criteria they would like
to
share with me? 
I am re-evaluating our magazine collection and I am a
little overwhelmed by the choices and underwhelmed by our budget! 

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:01:08 -0500
From: "Smith, Mary" <smith6@einetwork.net>
Subject: [PY] on-line registration for summer reading club and
security
To: <pubyac@lists.prairienet.org>
Message-ID:
<5F759A0CB3A86C4D906048E08DC317C4E18FC4@exchange.einetwork.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Because our library will be closed during part of summer, we want to register kids for the summer reading club on-line. Has anyone else done this? How have you handled security? (With a security certificate, or ???)
 
Thanks for any input you can give.
 
Mary Morgan Smith, CYAS
Northland Public Library
Pittsburgh PA


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:25:28 -0800
From: "Nicole Reader" <Nicole.Reader@ci.benicia.ca.us>
Subject: [PY] RE: playing games on adult/children's computers
To: <pubyac@lists.prairienet.org>,
<ksankaran@springfieldpubliclibrary.com>
Message-ID: <s05592c6.027@email.ci.benicia.ca.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7

Kapila's issue is "there's been an ongoing discussion in my library about kids/teens playing games on the computers (both in the adult and YS sections) -- and i'd like to know from you what your experiences have been regarding allowing children/teens to play games, whether in the children's or the adult departments."  She asks "how else do you keep computer use as equitable for all concerned as possible."

It sounds like a terrible waste of staff time and energy for your librarians to be constantly judging whether patrons are using the Internet appropriately.  Also, I'm surprised your adult patrons aren't up in arms about not being able to play games on the Internet themselves!  Anyway, I thought I'd reply to the list because I *love* our open-access policy and time-management software so much. At my library, anybody ¯ child, teen, or adult ¯ can use the Internet to do whatever they want (well, okay, practically) for two hours each day.  This means all patrons have the option to play games, send email, and chat.  After those two hours are up, they simply can't log back in.  That's about as "equitable" as you can get, and librarians never need to become Internet police. 

Sometimes adults do get grumpy when no computers are available, and they complain that the kids are just wasting time playing instead of doing serious work.  But our policy is that all information-seeking behavior is equally valid.  So many great kids' Web sites use games to educate, how dare anyone say it's an inappropriate use of resources?  Plus, those complaining adults probably just want to use the Internet to check NCAA scores or their stocks, which are just different forms of game-playing.

Kapila also says, "there's a fear that if this were to happen, the library would be turned into an arcade, and that it would mean having to "corral" the lively ones more than the librarians there want to."  Sure, when people are excited about a game they're playing, things get loud.  But it sounds like the librarians have to walk around and "corral" patrons now anyway, to prevent them from playing games!  Personally, I'd much rather enforce standard library rules (such as, keep your voices down) than restrict patrons' access to information. 

Well, good luck to you!



N.
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Nicole Reader
Head of Youth Services
Benicia (CA) Public Library
nicole.reader@ci.benicia.ca.us
www.ci.benicia.ca.us/library.html



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:21:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
Subject: [PY] concept books
To: pubyac@lists.prairienet.org
Message-ID: <20040315202123.22340.qmail@web9803.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

hello all!
i am working on a bulk buy of concept books (alphabet,
counting, colors & shapes) and i'm trying to come up
with a good core list that includes recent titles.

i was plodding through bwi, amazon & novelist for
ideas when i suddenly thought of pubyac.

can you please send me a short list of your favorite
concept books--preferably but not limited to recent
titles

please send to jbaker93711@yahoo.com
i'd be happy to compile and post what i get.

TIA,
~j.


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~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library

"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is that?" "I am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:46:51 -0700
From: Leslie Johnson <ljohnson@jefferson.lib.co.us>
Subject: [PY] Narnia Program Ideas???
To: pubyac@lists.prairienet.org
Message-ID:
<95F27A5127AE5043A0895E33C2B0126601B83A3B@amber.jeffco-lib.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I am planning a program based on the Chronicles of Narnia and I have a few
ideas, but I know that some of you out there have some great ideas.  Would
you send them to me?  Send them to me at: 

ljohnson@jefferson.lib.co.us
 
and I will send out an email with all the ideas combined.  Thanks for your
help!

Leslie Johnson
Children's Information Librarian
Golden Public Library
Jefferson County Public Library
1019 Tenth St, Golden, CO 80401
303-279-4585 X 2
Fax: 303-277-0109
ljohnson@jefferson.lib.co.us

Find us on the web:
http://jefferson.lib.co.us/




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:25:00 -0600
From: Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us>
Subject: [PY] RE: Stumper Solver - NOT Hans Christian Andersen
To: pubyac@lists.prairienet.org
Message-ID: <NNEPJJJPEBCDNDPDMMONEECGCLAA.jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

As always, thanks to all who replied to my stumper (original question listed
below).  It appears the concensus is that story is actually one of the King
Midas myths and has been retold many times including "The King has donkey
ears", "The King's ears", "The King's Secret", "The King has Horses Ears",
"The Emperor's Secret" and "Our King has Horns."  Thanks to Amy, Bizzie,
Cheryl, Peggy, Karen, Catherine, Elaine, Lisa, Beverly, Judy and Elizabeth.
You guys are great.

Jennie

ORIGINAL POSTING:
We have a very beloved patron and former board member who is looking for a
particular fairy tale.  He is fairly certain it is by Hans Christian
Andersen.  The premise of the story is about a king who has a secret that he
cannot tell but it gets to be more than he can bear so he finally yells the
secret down a well in order to get it out of his system.  Does this sound
familiar to anyone.  We've tried going through our Hans Christian Andersen
books and also looked on the Internet but if anyone can help us out here
we'd be so grateful.

Jennie J. Stoltz
Children's Services Coordinator
Frank L. Weyenberg Library
Mequon/Thiensville, WI



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:14:25 -0500
From: Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
Subject: [PY] TAR:  Beowulf
To: Lm_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU, pubyac@prairienet.org
Message-ID: <97354A70-76AC-11D8-8C8F-000393C11D2A@erving.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello, & please excuse the cross-postings.

Can anyone out there recommend a picture book version of Beowulf?  I
have a teacher who is eagerly searching for one and, I have yet to
successfully locate such a beast.

Thanks so much,
Robin

Robin Shtulman
Librarian
Erving Elementary School
Erving, MA
shtulman@erving.com
http://www.erving.com/library/erving_library.htm

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:16:52 -0500
From: Marsha Parham <parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: [PY] book stumpers
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Message-ID:
<6.0.0.22.0.20040315130514.02b0bec0@mailbox.spalding.public.lib.ga.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Hi everyone:

I have two stumpers this morning:

1. A teacher came in Sat. looking for a book she used with her class about
10 years ago.  It might be an Irish folktale because she remembers using it
around St. Patrick's Day.

It about two old men who live next to each other.  They are first friends,
then enemies, then friends again.  She remembers the men becoming friends
again because of something birds do with a sweater.


2.  A girl likes going to the zoo and invites the animals to her home.  The
zoo floods and the animals' keepers bring the animals to her house for
safekeeping.


I have no clue.  I hope that someone can help. Thanks

Marsha



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M. Marsha Parham
Flint River Regional Library
800 Memorial Dr.
Griffin, GA 30223
(770) 412-4770
(770) 412-4771 (fax)
parhamm@mail.spalding.public.lib.ga.us



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:08:14 -0000
From: <lhharris@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: [PY] Stumper-inventor
To: <pubyac@lists.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <twig.1079388494.80458@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

Hi Everyone,
A patron asked for an easy reader she remembered from the mid 70s: a boy who is
lazy invents machines to do his work for him. There is a power outtage, and the
machines "go haywire". She remembers the boy wearing a striped shirt. Ring any
bells ?
Thank you in advence,
Laurie Harrison
Riverhead Free Library



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:06:09 -0500
From: "Margaret Brown" <chbya@biblio.org>
Subject: [PY] Stumper-- boy and pigeon
To: <speak@lists.libct.org>, <pubyac@lists.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <000001c40ad9$b8e9d650$880e810a@chbooth.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks for your help in solving this stumper!

Do you know the title and author of this book?  It was remembered from
the late 50's.  A book for young adults, around 100-200 pages, with
occasional black and white drawings.  The plot involved a boy who was
miniaturized and created a mobile home type abode fastened to the back
of a pigeon.  The boy's father, who was a spy or diplomat, gets into
trouble in Europe and needs to be rescued.  The boy and his pigeon,
being small, are chosen for the job.  One was a picture of a windowsill
of a castle where the pigeon landed, another of the boy on his pigeon
home porch as the pigeon was flying.
 
Margaret Brown
Young Adult Librarian
C.H. Booth Library
25 Main Street
Newtown, CT  06470
(203)426-4533
chbya@biblio.org
 
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