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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 00:14:49 1997
From: "Paul F. Schaffner" <pfs@umich.edu>
Subject: Narnian variations
Does anyone know of a published account of the textual variations amongst
the editions of the Narnia books (such as those recently referred to
here)? Or at least know the source of the variation? (E.g., was any of
it authorial?)
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Paul Schaffner | pfs@umich.edu | http://www-personal.umich.edu/~pfs/
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 00:14:49 1997
From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
ubject: Outrageously Alice - Naylor
Here is a summary of the responses to whether Phyllis Reynolds
Naylor's Outrageously Alice should be shelved with juvenile or young adult
fiction. Thankyou everyone, for joining in the lively debate. It has
been fun. We chose to keep Alice in our juvenile fiction collection but
many of our branch librarians opted for YA, just as some of you had
reported in your library systems.
YA -- because of the current age of the character and her experiences in
the book.
YA -- clearly, but our YA books are shelved with the adult
collection and this would not be appropriate on the adult shelf.
YA -- since Alice In Between, Alice has been considered YA but she
doesn't circulate as well in YA.
J -- because YA is for more mature themes. Funny thing, I have a
daughter (only 11) and I never know from one day to the next if she's
going to be acting like a kid or a teenager. One foot in each camp.
J -- We have a youth section, ostensibly for grades 7-8, housed in our
children's room, that would fit this book.
YA - since Alice The Brave. Alice, despite still acting as a
young girl, is getting older and dealing with more mature subjects. The
YA titles are circulating more than the J ones are. .. I'm not sure YA's
who are older are attracted to the Alice titles anyway, so I'm not
concerned with them reading it and being unhappy with her immaturity. (In
response to the concern that the YA's would stop trusting our judgement if
we marked immature Alice YA). Also, I like them in YA for the sake of the
parents. I do have a few parents who seem clueless about the possible
subject matter in YA books, but I'd rather be able to tell a parent
concerned about the maturity of a subject that that's why we have the book
labeled YA instead of trying to defend labeling the book J when there's a
question about the subject matter.... Our YA books are separated from our
J Fiction and the Alice fans find them just fine.
J and YA -- Our library system is split, and several libraries
here are now using the YT (Young Teen) designation to cover books such as
this. There are many books that fall out of the J realm but aren't quite
the same as the "true" YA books for the older YAs.
J -- We go through 8th grade. The primary reason is that the
series is being read as a whole by huge groups of 5th-7th graders and they
deal with those issues all the time (whether they are mature enough to
deal with them or not!).
J -- What about the other "huge fans" of Alice? Will they say, oh
gee, the librarian assigned this book in the series I'm reading to YA, so
maybe I'd better wait a year to find out what happens??? ... I lean very
strongly to not breaking up a series. It sounds, from your description,
like Naylor is writing adolescent experiences for a pre-adolescent
readership.
J -- I realize there is mature subject matter on some pages but
they are hardly explained in-depth. And I am sure some girls have heard
of some of those things anyway. The questions Alice has are not given
really detailed answers and she is still so immature that I think it is
more appropriate for J. YAs would not be interested in her babyish style.
There you have it. Thanx to all. It was fun!
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 00:14:49 1997
From: Janis Getty <jgetty@nslsilus.org>
ubject: Book bags for Home Day Care Providers
I am a children's librarian and want to find out if other libraries send
book bags to home day care providers.
If you do, would you please answer these questions?
Is the service limited to your patrons?
Do you send other items besides books?
What is the length of checkout time?
Do you deliver the bags?
Are they made to order or prepackaged?
I will share the information with those who are interested.
Thank you!
Jan Getty
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 23:44:12 1997
From: Konieczka <konieczm@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Circulating Comic Books
Hi, all! We just started circ'ing comic books and after one checkout,
they're demolished! Has anyone come up w/a good way to circ comics? You
can reply directly to me and if there's any interest, I'll post to the
list. TIA Mary J.
Mary J. Konieczka
Youth Services Librarian
Riverdale Public Library
708-841-3311
e-mail:konieczm@sls.lib.il.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 23:44:18 1997
From: "Jim Kirks" <jkirks@glenn-co.k12.ca.us>
Subject: AD: Announcing Children's Services Training Manual, 1997 Edition
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The Manual is ready-made for supervisors with training responsibilities
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The new units are Children's Library Reference Service and Service to
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 23:44:23 1997
From: kscalley <kscalley@capecod.net>
Subject: Re:Compiled list of interactive flannel board stories
This wonderful contribution came from Lu Benke:
Here are a few stories that adapt well to flannelboards and all
of them involve the "magic" of having things hidden under or behind
other flannelboard pieces.
Kellogg, Steven. The Mystery of the Missing Red Mitten. (hide each of
the false alarms--sweater, boot, etc.--under the item connected to the
activity. Have the mitten on the smallest sized snowman and layer
larger, less-melted snowmen on top so that they can be peeled off to
reveal the "mystery.")
Gag, Wanda. The Funny Thing. (Make the tail on the aminal so it can
"grow" by making the tail separate and feed it through a slot on the
body.)
Hertz, Grete Janus. Hi, Daddy. Here I am! (This is a 1964 picture book
about a little girl who falls alseep while waiting for a sidetracked dad
to find her in a very cozy game of hide and seek. It's worth ILLing. In
making the flannelboard, make the little girl so she fits behind the
items she hides behind, and have her peak from behind them.
Schimmel, Nancy. Just enough to make a story. (Make the tailor like a
paper doll and peel off the layers as he remakes his coat, jacket, vest,
etc.)
????, ?????. The Treasure of Li-Po. "Two of everything" (This
traditional tale of an elderly couple in China is found in a lot of
collections. The gist of the story is that a magic pot doubles
everything that is put in it--including the elderly couple. I made the
flannelboard pieces doubled--mirrored images stuck back-to-back with
spray adhesive so that they could pry apart easily. Then, the magic is
that when they fall into the slot of the pot, they are pulled back out
and they become two identical items.)
Try mixing realia in with the two-dimensional flannelboard
pieces, e.g., string used as reins for Santa's sleigh as he tries out
different animals to pull the sleigh "Why Santa Chose the Reindeer" in
The Santa Claus Book (I think.). Or use tinsel to drape the Christmas
tree when telling any of the versions of "The Golden Cobweb." Zalben's
A
Perfect Nose for Ralph works up great with all the possible noses
(cotton ball, snaps, buttons, ball of yarn, etc.). I made my Ralph 15"
tall and out of poster board so that the "flannelboard" is really just
him sitting on my lap where I can firmly affix the noses that Ralph
tries on his stuffed panda bear.
Some ideas from Mylee Joseph, Linda Plevak, Nancee Dahms-Stinson,
Karen Knudson & Colleen Doyle:
1. Tiddalick the frog (this is an Aboriginal dreamtime story about a
giant frog who drank all the water and different native animals try to
make him laugh to release the water).
2. Mem Fox (who wrote Possum Magic) also wrote a wonderful story called
"Hattie and the Fox". Hattie is a hen who sees a fox a bit at a time:
"Goodness gracious, I can see a nose and two eyes in the bushes" etc.
andthe animals keep responding with a refrain throughout the story.
3. Big Pumpkin-retelling of the of the big turnip with lines that
repeat. This also a fun one to act out with the childrem taking
different parts. I am usually the pumpkin!
4. The book HOW DO I PUT IT ON, by Shigeo Watanabe translates well into
a flannel board. You can either copy the siimple drawing of the bear
from the book, or draw your own bear with all of his various articles of
clothing. I read the book to preschoolers first, then they take turns
putting the pieces of clothing on the bear. I have also given the kids
and their parents the bear and clothing copied onto tag board with
strips of magnets that they can take home. The kids can color the
bear/clothing, mom or dad cut it out, then they apply the magnets to the
back. Voila--they have a bear they can dress on the refrigerator.
5. Some Margaaret Read MacDonald books, many of them have stories that
involve chants--like The Roly Poly Ricecakes, and others.
6. Hurry up Franklin by Patty Bourgeois has the title words repeated
often enough that the kids like to chant them with me.
7."It looked like spilt milk" It's a very simple story about clouds
and
all the things they somethings look like. To make the pieces all you
need is white felt. It allows the children to participate,using
repetitive phrases (Sometimes it looks like spilt milk, birds, ice
cream,etc... butit isn't) I also think it's great because it gets the
kids using their imaginations when they leave, looking up and seeing
what they can see in the clouds.
Thanks to everyone who sent me ideas. I can hardly wait to use them in
my preschool classroom this fall. What a great resource this listserv
is!!
Ann Scalley
kscalley@capecod.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 23:45:19 1997
From: Susan Cormier <scormier@connix.com>
Subject: Planning and Role Setting revision
Does anyone in the great pubyac brain know what is going on with the
revision of "Planning and Role Setting for Public Libraries"?
Apparently the eight roles (one of which was the "Preschooler's Door to
Learning") are being replaced by 14 "service responses", none of
which
even mention children! Is there anyone who worked on this or attended
the PLA program that can shed some light?
Thanks!
--
Susan Draper Cormier
Children's Services Consultant and
Acting Director, Willimantic Library Service Center
860-456-1717 or 1-800-253-7944
FAX 860-423-5874
<scormier@connix.com>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 23:46:37 1997
From: Amy Paget <amypaget@tcpl.lib.in.us>
ubject: Stumper? books on "baby's last bottle"
A customer is looking for fictional picture book format material on weaning
a youngster from the bottle. I tried BIP and A to Zoo. Finally found two
items in BIP
Patterson, Bettina
No more bottles
Putnam 0-448-40972-0 Boards 4.95
and
Bye Bye Bottle
Jim Henson Muppet Press
0-307-12328-6 Boards 3.95
which I will order. Has anyone got other suggestions for this gap in my
collection? I would also like something on this subject similar to the Mr.
Rogers Books.
Thanks, I'll post results.
From: Amy Paget <amypaget@tcpl.lib.in.us>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 23:46:57 1997
From: Mount Vernon City Library <lib@sos.net>
ubject: Stumper (World War)
I have a patron looking for a book he read in the sixties. It was about a
boy who traveled in Asia with his pig during a World War. He couldn't
remember if it was World War I or World War II. He thought the title was
something like, "Return of the San Pan." I've checked Books in Print,
What
Do Children Read Next? and Best Books for Children. I would really
appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks in advance!
Anita Thornton
Youth Services Department
Mount Vernon City Library
lib@sos.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Aug 14 23:47:17 1997
From: rickpat@micro.com
Subject: Internet Policies for Children
Has anyone out there developed an Internet policy for children? We
have had an Internet station for adults for some time. We are adding a
second station for adults and one for children. I would like to just add a
paragraph pertaining to use in the Children's Room to our existing policy,
rather than write a whole new policy. Has anyone done this? Or, has anyone
written a policy just for children and young adults. I'd really appreciate
any help or ideas you can contirbute. TIA!
You can reply directly to me:
rickpat@micro.com
Pat Scott-Baumgarten 1-800-646-6521
Leavenworth Public Library
417 Spruce Street
Leavenworth, KS 66048
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