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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:01:57 1997
From: "Children's Services" <children@ulysses.sebridge.org>
ubject: Basics on CD-ROM Multimedia Workstations
The Mid-Hudson Library System (Poughkeepsie, NY) received an LSCA grant in
1996 to establish multimedia science workstations in eight area libraries
for children ages 8-12. Part of the grant involved publishing a "how to get
started" guide for public libraries considering a multimedia CD-ROM
workstation, specifically to address some of the questions I have seen asked
on PUBYAC recently. The guide, _Dolphins in the Library: Multimedia Centers
for Children_ is available in print for a fee, and an electronic version is
available on the MHLS website at
http://midhudson.org/childrens/dolphin.html
Naturally, being published nearly 10 months ago, some of the technology
specifications are "out-of-date"; but the basic concepts and questions
remain the same, and the experience of the librarians involved in the grant
is timeless.
Lisa Kochik
Mid-Hudson Library System
Email: children@sebridge.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:02:00 1997
From: "Alison Hendon" <ahendon@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [PUBLIB:4865] Group visits to the library]
> Lynn Daugherty wrote:
> >
> > We need your advice. We have a small parochial school two blocks away.
> > They have almost no library and bring their classes to the public
library
> > each week during the school year. These visits are scheduled and we
have
> > generally enjoyed serving them. HOWEVER, the third and fourth grade
classes
> > last year began coming together (about 28 children). The teachers and
aides
> > were not attentive and the group was uncontrolled and disruptive. We
asked
> > each class to again come separately and met with resistance and anger
until
> > we spoke with the principal who insured that the groups came
separately. We
> > then, of course, heard the teachers badmouthing our children's
librarian
> > whom they blamed for the problem and for "going to" the
principal.
> >
> > This year the same teachers have told us, we are a public library
& cannot
> > deny them service, and they ARE coming together (35 children) and gave
us a
> > choice of two times, either of which would be convenient for them.
They are
> > angry, aggressive and unwilling to listen to our point of view.
<snip>
Our point of view at our public library is that having more than one
class at the same time is not fair to the children, doesn't give them
the proper service. I don't understand why the classes have to come
together. We do schedule lots of class visits, but we don't have any
classes coming in weekly. They come in on a 2- or 3-week rotation
(our books are due in 3 weeks). I hope that you can settle this
peaceably!
Alison Hendon
Brooklyn Public Library
speaking only for myself
Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org
"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:02:02 1997
From: "Christolon, Blair B" <bbc6251a@co.prince-william.va.us>
Subject: JUMP magazine(s)
For those of you who wanted to know about the YA magazine JUMP, there
are two magazines with this title. The one my public library was
interested in (but haven't seen yet) was to have hit the newsstands
August 5 and is a sports magazine for teen girls. It is published by
Weider Publications
(818)884-6800, ext. 548. There is another magazine called JUMP put out
by the College of William and Mary in Williamsburg, Va. Even though
older YAs may enjoy reading it, I think all the buzz is about this new
sports magazine for teen girls.
All comments expressed here are my own and may not reflect the policies
of Prince William Public Library System
Blair B. Christolon
Librarian-Collection Specialist J, YA &AV
Prince William Public Library System
13083 Chinn Park Drive
Prince William, VA 22192-5073
703-792-6251
FAX 703-792-4875
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:02:34 1997
From: Deborah McClish <dmcclish@sinnfree.org>
Subject: Fairy tale stumper
Hello,
I am a new youth librarian and have my first stumper to try and solve. A
patron is looking for a fairy tale she heard about in a song. It is about
two sisters and one murders the other. The murdered sister comes back
as a swan, then is transformed into a harp. That is all we know.
Anybody every heard of it? Thanks for your help.
Please reply directly to me.
Deborah McClish
Librarian, Youth Services
Rockford Public Library
Rockford, IL 61104
dmcclish@sinnfree.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:02:48 1997
From: Jan Van De Carr <jvandcar@park-ridge.lib.il.us>
Subject: First Time LIbrary Card Holders
We give all new library cards recipients a magnet from Jan-Way that says "I
have my library card! The middle says "READ" and the library's name
and phone number are on them.
The magnet goes in a little folder that says "Congratulations you have your
first library card"!
Children seem happy with the magnet, but I think they are sometimes disappointed
that there is nothing else. I have thought of adding something with the magnet
but haven't decided what it would be.
Jan Van De Carr
jvandcar@park-ridge.lib.il.us
Park Ridge PUblic Library
Park Ridge, IL
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:58:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Fred Muller Newton <fmuller@saturn.planet.net>
Subject: Re: Fairy Tales
I have modified all my 398 cataloging. I add the country code without the
9. For example, folklore in US is 398.273. This has been a big help to
make sense out of my 7 shelves of folklore
Frederick Muller, Halsted Middle School Library
Librarian 59 Halsted Street voice (973) 383-7440x228
fmuller@planet.net Newton, NJ 07860 FAX (973) 383-7432
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:24:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
Subject: YA Magazines
Hi all!
I am in the process of updating our YA magazine subscriptions and could use
some quick advice. I am thinking of subscribing to either Blue Jeans or New
Moon magazine. Does anybody currently get these, have an opinion either way
or any pearls of widsom they can share? Also has anyone heard or seen
anything about Jump, a new YA magazine geared to girls who like sports?
Thanks in advance!
Ilene Lefkowitz
YA Librarian
Englewood Public Library
31 Engle Street
Englewood, NJ 07631
ILefkowitz@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:09:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charlotte Lesser <clesser@keene.edu>
Subject: First time cardholders
Greetings!
We are planning to start giving children who get their first library card
some kind of "goodie bag"/handout starting during Children's Book
Week.
We have ordered refrigerator magnets (shaped like a book with lib. phone
and hours) and thought about also giving out a bookmark and our Youth
Department brochure, plus a current flyer of children's programs.
Do other libraries do this? My questions are these:
1) What do you put in your packet?
2) Do you make different ones for different age levels (children can get
cards at any age in our library)
3) Who pays for the materials?
Thanks in advance! Please reply to me and I'll summarize for the list.
******************************************************************************
Charlotte Lesser Phone (603) 352-0157
Head of Youth & Community Services Fax (603) 352-1101
Keene Public Library email clesser@keene.edu
60 Winter St.
Keene NH 03431
Check out the Youth Dept. Home page on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/library/jyouth.htm
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:41:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Horan <jhoran@monroe.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Info on Ella Jenkins
Has anyone had Ella Jenkins in concert at their library? We're
having her in a joint schools-and-public library program and want to know
what grades to invite.
I'm assuming grades k-3 are appropriate, but would love to hear
comments from any Pubyakkers who have seen her.
Thanks,
Jim Horan
Monroe County Library System
jhoran@monroe.lib.mi.us
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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:20:20 +0000
From: "ANNA ZANARINI" <AZANARINI@slco.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Book Babies
Hi All!
I received such a great response from my last posting, I decided to
do it again! This time I am wondering if anyone has a handout that
is given to parents/caregivers when they register for infant
storytimes that lists rules, expected behaviors, etc. I'm doing my
first Book Babies session starting in October and have handouts with
the songs, fingerplays, stories, etc. that I'll be doing each week,
but would like to give participants something when they register
which would provide them with a feel for the program. If anyone has
anything they could send me, either through e-mail or through snail
mail, I'd very much appreciate it. I will create my own, but I'd
like to get ideas from those with experience. Thank you once again
for all your help!
Anna Zanarini
Salt Lake County Library System
Sandy Library
10100 S. Petunia Way
Sandy, UT 84092
(801) 944-7601
azanarini@slco.lib.ut.us
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:58:18 -0700
From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [PUBLIB:4865] Group visits to the library]
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:53:58 -0700
From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
Organization: Oak Lawn Public Library/Director
CC: Multiple recipients of list <publib@sunsite.berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: [PUBLIB:4865] Group visits to the library
Lynn Daugherty wrote:
>
> We need your advice. We have a small parochial school two blocks away.
> They have almost no library and bring their classes to the public library
> each week during the school year. These visits are scheduled and we have
> generally enjoyed serving them. HOWEVER, the third and fourth grade classes
> last year began coming together (about 28 children). The teachers and aides
> were not attentive and the group was uncontrolled and disruptive. We asked
> each class to again come separately and met with resistance and anger until
> we spoke with the principal who insured that the groups came separately. We
> then, of course, heard the teachers badmouthing our children's librarian
> whom they blamed for the problem and for "going to" the
principal.
>
> This year the same teachers have told us, we are a public library &
cannot
> deny them service, and they ARE coming together (35 children) and gave us a
> choice of two times, either of which would be convenient for them. They are
> angry, aggressive and unwilling to listen to our point of view.
>
> Obviously, this is not fair to the children, most of whom come to the desk
> for guidance in finding materials, nor to the staff, nor to other patrons
in
> the library who also need service. I plan to talk to the principal to see
> if we can find a non-confrontational way of resolving the conflict. But I
> would also like to know how other libraries handle similar situations. Do
> you have a special policy for group behavior problems? Obviously, our
> policy of denying library access to an individual causing a problem will
not
> work here. A teacher cannot leave one student at school and bring the rest.
> And we do not feel the staff should be responsible for disciplining
> individual children when the teachers and aides are in the building.
>
> How do you handle these situations? Any advice would help.
> Lynn Daugherty, Director....................ledaugh@netnitco.net
> Jasper County Public Library, 208 W. Susan, Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Phone: 219-866-5881; FAX: 219-866-7378
> http://www.jasperco.lib.in.us
Lynn,
You are correct in supporting your Children's Librarian in this
unfortunate situation where teachers in a k-12 school which provides
no library service at all are demanding that the public library
compromise its own service mission in order to address the particular
curriculum needs of one or two classes from one school in a community
which undoubtedly has many k-12 schools and thousands of persons of
all ages to serve.
While every one of those youngsters may be a patron and as such is
entitled to service, the public library is not a servant of the school
itself. Cooperation, yes. Subserviance, no. What you do for one school
- -- particularly a privately funded school which is competing with other
parochial schools and the public schools for enrollment -- could set a
precedent which would effectively force you to undertake the same rule
bending for every school in your service area. If you didn't, the
services given to one parochial school could be construed as using tax
dollars to make one school more desirable than another. The ground rules
for classes using your facility as a part of the regular school day
should be applied consistently and firmly maintained.
If you can't get cooperation from the principal, you should confer
with your board and then approach the board or clergy group governing
the school. I have never had to go straight to the school boards myself,
but I have often gone to the Superintendent level in order to get
results.
James B. Casey -- My views as a public library director.
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:37:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: gwiseman <gwiseman@lib.ci.waco.tx.us>
Subject: school/public libraries
Hi
I've been reading with great interest the recent debate over school
libraries and whether they should be open and available on
evenings/weekends to students/community residents. I have a friend who is
currently establishing a local library for (mostly) schoolage children in
a housing project. It grieves her very much that the school (within easy
walking distance) has a library that is unavailable so much of the time.
She is looking for information on real-world library situations where the
school library is open some time whether summer or during the schoolyear.
If this happens in your community who runs the library, where do the
funds come from, what are the problems, etc? Please e-mail me and I'll
try to post a summary of responses to the list.
Gillian Wiseman (gwiseman@lib.ci.waco.tx.us)
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:07:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tiffany Schwartz <schwartz@noblenet.org>
Subject: YA software suggestions needed
I'm planning to set up two pc's entirely for young adults to use and need
some suggestions for software that this age group really enjoys / needs.
Besides Myst, Oregon Trail II, and a good encyclopedia...what might you
suggest for ages 10-16? Please respond to me at schwartz@noblenet.org
with both educational or recreational software suggestions.
Of course...I'll post a list
Thanks
Tiffany
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Tiffany Schwartz | Lucius Beebe Memorial Library
Young Adults' Librarian | Wakefield, Massachusetts
schwartz@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange*
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:27:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Carolyn Caywood <carolyn@infi.net>
Subject: Re: Library Card Logos, Etc.
>
> I once blew the Va. Beach Public Library's card up, pasted it on foamboard
> and made a sandwich board to wear for a presentation. I named myself
"LL
> CARD" which stood for the "living library card."
>
> Oh, the things one does...
>
> Mary K.
>
What Mary K. doesn't know is that when we changed Library card styles
to add bar code, the big deal was getting new blow ups of "L.L.Card"
and imagine our surprise when we found that even at that size the card
still scans. Great for tour demos.
Carolyn Caywood % Save the time of the Reader %
carolyn@infi.net % --Ranganathan's 4th Law %
http://www6.pilot.infi.net/~carolyn/ FAX:757-464-6741
936 Independence Blvd. Virginia Beach, VA 23455 757-460-7519
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Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:30:22 -0400
From: cchesh@tc3net.com (Cathy Chesher)
Subject: RE: CD-ROMS: access, process and duress
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Brett,
I'd be interested in hearing what kind of responses you get on your =
CD-ROM question. Our children's dept. recently received a grant to =
purchase 4 CD-ROM workstations for educational and children's reference =
software. We won't be networking (for various reasons), but I do want =
to make available more than one program at a time. I was thinking of =
purchasing CD changers for this and possibly daisy-chaining them; now =
I'm not so sure. I thought about jukeboxes too, but one area library had =
a lot of problems with theirs. They suggested purchasing a PC with a =
very large hard drive and storing programs on that. I'm not even very =
sure what a jukebox is, to tell you the truth. We're a very small =
library, so don't have any technical staff to help solve these =
complicated problems and answer my many questions. One problem I forsee =
with changers is not being able to "lock" them so sticky fingers can't
=
take our disks. Do you have this problem? Do you have a solution?
Thanks.
Cathy Chesher
Adrian Public Library
Adrian, Michigan
cchesh@tc3net.com
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From: Brett Charbeneau[SMTP:brett@mail.wrl.org]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 1997 12:02 PM
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: CD-ROMS: access, process and duress
My library started using CD-ROM's on Public-access PC's about a =
year
ago. We've had some interesting, shall we say, experiences with certain
CD-ROM packages, particularly when they are loaded with in conjunction =
with
other releases from disparate manufacturers in CD-ROM changers holding 5 =
or 6 CD's in total. <snip>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:03:06 1997
From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
Subject: Re: [PUBLIB:4886] Re: Group visits to the library
David J. Giglio wrote:
> Don't be afraid to work with the principal, it's much easier to negotiate
> policy-maker to policy-maker. The teachers need to follow their school's
> policies as well as yours. You may convince the principal of this school
> to make a *school* policy regarding class visits, something the teachers
> will have to follow. You may ask the principal to come along and observe
> when these teachers visit with their classes, in order to gain a better
> understanding of your constraints.
It may be useful to remember that a Public Library director reporting to a
Board of Trustees is the chief executive officer of her/his public entity and
in that respect should be considered to be on an equal footing with a School
Superintendent rather than a Principal. If a problem with uncooperative and
belligerant teachers is not handled via the intervention of the principal, a
public library director has every right to take the matter up with the highest
executive authority governing that school. In situations I have had such as
this in the past, I would suggest that my Head of Children's Services talk to
the Principal and take the matter to the Assistant Superintendent level if
necessary (middle management levels) and that I would go to the top executive
level (Superintendent) if matters weren't rectified.
K-12 public schools and some parochial schools have large bureaucratic
structures
and that working the "system" for public library directors might mean
refusing to
accept equal or subserviant status to Assistant Principals, Principals, etc. who
might earn much, much higher salaries than the public library director, but who
are, in fact, middle managers with service populations and scope of
responsibilities
which may actually be less than those of the person who supervises your
Children's
Services Department.
I suppose it amounts to public librarians and librarians in general asserting
their importance as professionals and refusing to accept subserviant status.
For example: If you write to or call a Superintendent to discuss a matter
affecting both of your institutions, don't allow this approach to be diverted
to an Assistant Superintendent or Secretary or Assistant Principal or School
Librarian. Insist upon talking to the woman or man in charge directly. If
they refuse or are "too busy" suggest that the matter be referred to
the
Board level.
James B. Casey - My own views as a public library director.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:03:18 1997
From: Jim Maroon <jmaroon1@mail.airmail.net>
ubject: Re: Group visits to the library]
At 03:58 PM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote:
>> This year the same teachers have told us, we are a public library &
cannot
>> deny them service, and they ARE coming together (35 children) and gave
us a
>> choice of two times, either of which would be convenient for them. They
are
>> angry, aggressive and unwilling to listen to our point of view.
I disagree with your friends. It is a public library, true, but you have
rules for all sorts of things. Folks can't just walk out the door with
books they haven't checked out even if they plan to return them, and you
can set any date due on the materials that you want. We have age
restrictions on our toddle times, and parents must attend with their child.
They can't just dump their kid and walk out. Day cares can't come to our
regularly scheduled storytimes, but rather have to set a special visit on
specific days. But hey, it's a public library, right?
Apply the same reasoning they are using to a public school. Hey, it's
public, and I'm the public, so I should be able to waltz in unannounced and
do anything I want, right?
This group is visiting your library as an institution. They are not the
public. You can set up a rule that says institutions may only visit your
library subject to certain reasonable restrictions, one of which is
scheduling at your convenience and not theirs, so as not to disrupt the
other patrons who also have a right to use the library. (what if every
class in every school in your area decided to just drop in for a library
visit...) Another could be that they provide adequate supervision, with
teacher-child ratios that you set and not them. And you could say that any
group may be expelled from the library for poor behavior, just as any
individual can. Get your decision making bodies (library board, city
council, whatever) to back up your policy with their vote of support. When
you do, give the school a call and INFORM them of the new policy. Then meet
these people at the door and refuse entry should they try to break the rule..
I don't know where you are, but these were rules we set up at my library in
California, and we were legally able to enforce them.
--Jim Maroon jmaroon1@airmail.net
The Storytelling Home Page: http://members.aol.com/storypage
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:03:53 1997
From: "L. Jean Hansen" <jhansen@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: stumper title: Hot Rod
Hope you don't mind another stumper. A patron of ours is looking for a
book he read as a young teen.
Title: Hot Rod
Author: ????? he can't remember
Pub. Date: prior to 1952
Plot summary: story about a young teenage boy, in school, who
acquires a discarded car from a junk yard and
builds it into a beautiful hot rod.
Any leads would be appreciated, especially author info. so we
could try to ILL it for him. Thanks.
Jean Hansen |
Adult & Young Adult Librarian | Voice: 810-674-4831 ext.110
Waterford Township Public Library | Fax: 810-674-1910
5168 Civic Center Dr. | E-mail: jhansen@tln.lib.mi.us
Waterford, MI 48329 |
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Aug 27 21:04:04 1997
From: katzen@juno.com (Lenora A Oftedahl)
Subject: strategic planning ideas
Our Children's Services Dept. is beginning to create a 3-5 year strategic
plan, looking at what we really want to focus on and then work on. We are
going to work on this in a retreat setting of approximately 3 hours. Does
anyone have any strategic plans, goals and objectives that they would be
willing to share, so we don't re-invent the wheel. Any ideas or experiences
concerning the organization of a retreat workshop? We are a county system
(Reno, Nev.) with 11 branches serving around 200,000 people. Please e-mail
to me personally, or our mailing address is Sparks Branch Library, 1125 12th
St., Sparks, Nev. 89431
Thanks in advance - Barb Lentz
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Sparks Branch sparks@washoe.lib.nv.us
Washoe County Library
1125 - 12th St. (702) 352-3200
Sparks, NV 89431 fax: (702) 352-3207
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