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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 20:34:13 1997
From: Andrew Finkbeiner <andrewf@sinnfree.org>
Subject: RE:"fixing" kids with books
I want to respond in kind with Carolyn Caywood's concern about
"fixing" kids with a book. I have often wondered if young people who
are enduring pain will seek out fiction that addresses a crisis similar to their
own situation. Will a child whose parents are divorcing seek out, independently,
a story about divorce? Will a child whose mother is suffering through cancer
seek out, independently, a story about a child whose mother is suffering through
cancer? My guess is no.
I understand how important it is to have an experience validated. There is a
certain amount of wisdom that comes from realizing that an experience or feeling
or thought has been experienced by someone else. That's one way that we come to
understand what it means to be human. It helps us identify and understand our
feelings on our way to leading our own lives.
I do think that literature can promote healing. But it can also hurt. I ask you
innocently, is it appropriate for us as librarians to counsel adults about the
care with which one must approach book selection for children in crisis?
Andrew Finkbeiner
Rockford (IL) Public Library
andrewf@sinnfree.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 20:34:15 1997
From: Karen Sonderman <sonderka@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Family book discussion group
Hello! We are now in that lull between the end of Summer Reading Program
and the beginning of Fall programming/ the onslaught of school reports,
and I have been playing catch-up. I just read the May/June issue of
Horn Book Magazine and want to know if Maeve Visser Knoth is subscribed
to this list? She wrote the article "Sparking Conversation at Home"
about her experiences with family book discussion groups. I am
interested in perhaps forming one at my library and would a)like to
contact her if anyone knows her or b)like information from any Pubyacers
who run such programs. E-mail me privately. TIA.
Karen Sonderman
Taylor Memorial Public Library
Cuyahoga Falls Ohio
sonderka@oplin.lib.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 20:34:19 1997
From: KATHYB@anokas.anoka.lib.mn.us
Subject: RE:Storytime process
I have to say that I am more or less with Bridgett. I have NEVER used
themes in storytime. I pick out the best books and do them.
Why must there be themes? Aren't good stories enough? Over and over
I have seen people choose mediocre books for their storytimes simply
because they fit the theme. I cannot understand why anyone would do that.
I want the children to have the best possible experience, and, to my
mind, that means reading the best possible books.
Kathy Baxter Anoka County Library, MN
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 20:34:28 1997
From: carrie guarria <cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: BIB: "animal sounds" books
I have received quite a few messages from those interested in my list of
"animal sounds" books which lend themselves to interactive
preschool storytimes, so here is my list. (I have yet to make a list of
counting or color books but I've included just a few which I've used
before.)
Austin, Virginia; "Say Please"
Bang, Molly; "Ten, Nine, Eight" (counting)
Beck, Ian; "Five Little Ducks"
Brandenberg, Franz; "Cock-a-doodle-doo"
Brown, Craig; "My Barn"
Brown, Margaret Wise; "Big Red Barn"
Crews, Donald; "Ten Black Dots" (counting and, I think, color)
Ginsberg, Mirra; "Good Morning, Chick"
Henley, Claire; "Farm Day"
Kamen, Gloria; "Paddle, Said the Swan"
Kightley, Rosalinda; "The Farmer"
Kuskin, Karla; "Roar and More"
Lewison, Wendy; "Going to Sleep on the Farm"
Lillie, Patricia; "When the Rooster Crowed"
Most, Bernard; "The Cow that Went Oink"
McDonald, Amy; "Let's Make a Noise"
McPhail, David; "Farm Morning"
Rikys, Bodel; "Red Bear" (color)
-----------; "Red Bear's Fun With Shapes"
Runcie, Jill; "Cock-a-Doodle-Doo!"
Sheppard, Jeff; "Splash, Splash"
Tafuri, Nancy; "The Barn Party"
-----------; "Earnly Morning in the Barn"
-----------; "Spots, Feathers and Curly Tails"
-----------; "Whose Counting?" (counting)
Van Laan, Nancy; "This is the Hat"
Whybrow, Ian; "Quacky Quack-Quack"
Young, Betty; "Pink Pigs in Mud" (color and animal sounds)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 20:34:16 1997
From: WILLETT@rowan.edu
Subject: Re: Copyright-Puppet shows, flannel stories
Ever since this question came up, I've been looking for the stuff on
copyright in my 17 boxes of files--I just moved. Not much luck yet!
Anyway...
I believe that the reason one must ask permission is that one is
changing the FORM of the work. To make a puppet show means changing a
narrative to a script, and one often has to make other changes as well
to move from the page to live action. Even if one is not charging
admission, one should contact the publishers, unless it is a folktale
which is pretty much public domain. Notice, however, that if you use a
particular retelling, and incorporate a reteller's actual words in your
script, you should get permission. Copyright protects the expression of
ideas, not the ideas themselves.
Copyright gives owners of expression the right to make copies,
distribute, and determine the form of their particular expression. It
is a difficult area; legalities can only be determined case-by-case in
the courts. We have guidelines to follow for each kind of
information/entertainment format. The guidelines are available in many
places, and recently there have been updates to the guidelines on
computer software--I haven't seen them, tho'.
As for Fair Use and educational use, *for the purpose of copyright*,
public libraries are not considered educational institutions. For the
purpose of copyright, educational institutions are places where
face-to-face _classroom_ instruction occurs, and actually only those
places in schools where instruction normally does occur, such as
classroom, library, gym. Not the principal's office and not the
cafeteria. This was determined several years ago in court, I
believe--someone else may have access to materials to cite chapter and
verse. For instance, public libraries may not use "home use" videos in
programs unless they have paid for permission. Videos are marked either
"home use" or "public performance"--look for that info. Fair
use
guidelines allow making single copies of articles, poems, etc. for
individual study, but not multiples to give away, as in the example of
the tape of reading aloud in a previous posting. You may not even make
a copy of an entire work, not even a picturebook. You may also not make
copies repeatedly of the same work, and so forth. I'm no longer using
my terrific slides of children's book illustrations in my children's lit
classes--all of them are illegal. I sure wish someone would make a
slide set or still video, tho'.
I suspect that many of us are confused and it's no wonder. The
guidelines are lengthy, contain exceptions and See Also clauses, and
vary according to who and what is being discussed. When in doubt, ask.
And give yourself lots of time. Spontaneity is in the guidelines for
Fair Use, but no specific time is given.
Copyright violations are criminal offenses and the FBI is the copyright
police. While they are not likely to come into your library and check
out your policy or your actions, libraries need to have a policy,
especially near the copy machine and especially for staff in children's
and ILL depts. Some copyright owners are very nasty, I've read that
Disney is particularly so.
I will be grateful to hear anyone else's _knowledge_ on this. Our
professional beliefs about the public lib's educational value makes not
a whit of difference here, it's what the case law says that counts.
Holly Willett
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 20:34:49 1997
From: "Children's Department-Stratford Library" <strfd@mail2.nai.net>
Subject: Request: Storyhour Courtesies/Policies
We are developing a revised handout on Story Hour Courtesies. (Also for
people attending other children's programs. If you have one, can you
e-mail it to us at Strfd@mail2.nai.net of snail mail it to Barbara Fritsch,
Stratford Library Association, 2203 Main Street, Stratford, CT 06497.
Thank you in advance!
Bina Williams
Children's Department
Stratford Library Association
2203 Main St.
Stratford, CT 06497
(203) 385-4165
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 20:34:55 1997
From: MICHELLEVE@dsl.rhilinet.gov
Subject: Re: YA books about desertion
Carolyn (and all), I have often felt badly about those patrons
who think they will find cures and answers to tragedies/difficulties
in our books. It is our way here--in the Cranston, RI libraries--to
try our best to redirect them. Children whose lives are torn apart
by a divorce or death *really* need books about cooperation, dealing
with change, etc. I never recommend specific situation books. But
when they are requested, I mention their usefulness in helping us
cope. Literature (and I don't include the "made to order" titles)
has always been a source for soothing our ills. There's nothing
"pop" about bibliotherapy. The ancient Greeks posted the words,
"Place of healing for the soul" over the entrance to their libraries.
People will always come to us looking for cures... It's part of our
service to help them understand that our books offer coping, not
curing. I remember a very old paperback (an ALA publication,
I think) on Hospital Books. I loved the table of contents:
a section on doctors, nurses and hospital stories (of course!),
Then what followed was what I call the "back door" to bibliotherapy:
sections on cooperation, being away from parents, making new friends,
and a few more I can't remember. It was a wonderful source for
those wanting to prepare a child for a hospital visit.
But no matter the situation/reason, it is best to offer books
that can help to develop general coping skills, as well as one (never
more than two) that discuss the specific situation. Our profession
offers us the opportunity to provide good tools for those who need
help in dealing with life. And it's been my experience that the
best books to do the job are the ones that are not written with
a "lesson" in mind.
Michelle A Vallee, Children's Librarian
Cranston Public Library
Cranston, Rhode Island
michelleve@dsl.rhilinet.gov
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:02:02 1997
From: "A. Courtney" <courtney@netrom.com>
Subject: Position
Position: Children’s Librarian, part-time
Hours: 17 hours a week, including one evening and one Saturday every
other week
Duties: Assisting with collection development
Planning, producing, and implementing children’s programs
Reference and reading guidance for children and care givers
Provide patron assistance with computer catalog and learning
center
computer
Conduct outreach programs in schools and with community
organizations
Requirements: Experience working with children
Knowledge of children’s literature
Computer capable
Education: MLS
Date Available: Immediately
Apply to: Aida Courtney
Head of Children’s Services
Lake Hiawatha Branch Library
Hiawatha Blvd. & Nokomis Ave.
Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey, 07034
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:02:02 1997
From: AHOGAN@bham.lib.al.us
Subject: Nappy Hair -Reply
I had always thought that the term 'nappy' was an insult, so when I read this
book that
seemed to be a celebration of a little girl's supremely nappy hair I was very
confused.
I asked around about this and one of my coworkers said that it does means bad
hair,
but isn't necessarily an insult. It is sort of the type of situation where you
can say you
have nappy hair, but nobody else better tell you that you do! :-)
But since the book is positive, not negative, and the call and response format
of the
story got great reviews. I don't know if I would consider it a front runner in
the
Caldecott race, but I think its a good book. Hmm...maybe I will write a
companion
book from my own experience called Stringy Hair. :-)
Amy A. Hogan
ahogan@bham.lib.al.us
Children's Librarian
Birmingham Public Library
Bham AL
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:02:20 1997
From: Karen Ricketson <ricketso@northnet.org>
Subject: Stumper ?
Hi, fellow PUBYACERS!
I'm very new to this listserv, but have to say it is extremely
well worth my time! Wow, what a wealth of ideas, knowledge, &
suggestions out there! Which is why I thought of all of you first to
pose this stumper question to. Does anyone remember the Title/Author of
an older children's book about a boy and his mother who had a restaurant
in the ground floor of their house and a witch lived on the second
floor?
Please respond to me directly at: ricketso@northnet.org, I will
post the answer to list ASAP.
TIA,
Karen
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:02:26 1997
From: Daria Cal <dcal@spl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: job posting (fwd)
LIBRARIAN I Children's Services - Monroe Library $2,857/mo.
Sno-Isle Regional Library System
Provides readers' advisory and reference services to patrons especially
children. Assists with planning and evaluation of adult and children's
services for the library. Requires a Master's degree in librarianship
from an ALA accredited program. This 40 hr/wk position is split; 8
hours in Sultan and 32 hours in Monroe. Candidate must have own
transportation. Ability to speak and understand Spanish is desirable.
Submit a required Sno-Isle Regional Library application, resume, and
letter of intent by 10/2/97 to : Sno-Isle regional Library System, 7312
35th Ave. NE, Marysville, WA 98270. (360)659-8447.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:02:50 1997
From: Susan LaFantasie <susanlaf@pcl1.pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: mother-daughter books
I could use suggestions for mother-daughter books that would be good for
book discussions with mothers and their daughters, the daughters being in
5th to 7th grades. Please suggest books that you absolutely loved! Thanks!
Please reply directly to me.
From: Susan LaFantasie <susanlaf@pcl1.pcl.lib.wa.us>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:03:04 1997
From: Vanston <jvanston@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: nappy hair once more
Thanks to those who replied to my Nappy Hair commentary. Actually, my
concern was not so much racism against African Americans. I see a positive
celebration of a girl's uniqueness. But, and i shudder to think of the
whipping I'm going to take for this one, but there seems to be an element
of backlash against whites. I don't have the book in front of me, so I
can't quote directly, but there are lines about her white classmates not
knowing anything...something along those lines. To celebrate or lift a
culture up, fine. But I don't think that putting another down is ok. I'm
sure someone out there will cite years of oppression and racism, but the
way to understanding and a prejudice-free world is NOT to just turn the
tables. Perhaps I am being oversensitive. And please, keep your replies
polite. It's a touchy subject, I know, but I do have feelings.
Jen
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:04:01 1997
From: Lesley Gaudreau <lesley@sealib.org>
Subject: book recommendations, please
Hi all,
I'm looking for some recommendations from your collective wisdom. I'm
looking for some face painting & mask making books for Halloween for
Teens. There are plenty out there, but I don't want them to look too
babyish & it's hard to know that from reviews. The ideal book would
probably border on theatrical makeup, though still intended for general
use. I also need some books on 20th century fashion history, also for
teens/high school age. The only one I found a mention of is O.P. Any
ideas??
TIA!
lesley
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Children have more need of models than of critics - J. Joubert
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Lesley Gaudreau
YA/REF Seabrook Library
Seabrook, NH
lesley@sealib.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:04:15 1997
From: MIKES@spart.spt.lib.sc.us
Subject: Stumper
I have a patron (about 30 years old) who remembers a book that was read to
her as a child. It is about a boy who uses his thumb (or other finger)
to push his food onto a fork. Eventually, a garden grows out of his
finger. DOes this sound familiar to anyone? MIke Seagle
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:04:22 1997
From: Lu Benke <lubenke@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us>
Subject: STUMPERS:Dog couple gets separated
This is embarrassing. We had this stumper 4 years ago and figured
it out but now none of us can remember the answer nor an exact enough
time when we answered it to go back in our desk files and find the
answer. Anyway, here's hoping the collective knowledge of PUBYAC can come
to our rescue:
A customer read a book (probably picture) a little while back
about two dogs who live either in France or under a French restaurant.
They have a home made out of an old box. The male dog goes to work each
day and the female dog packs his lunch. One day, he forgets his lunch.
She goes off in search of him, gets on the subway and gets lost, is
struck by a car and taken home to live with a rich old woman.
The story ends with the joyful reunion between the two dogs when
the old woman takes her car to the garage where the male dog is and the
two dogs recognize each other's scent.
Anyone out there recognize this? TIA!
Lu Benke
Media and Children's Services
Fort Collins Public Library
201 Peterson Street phone: 970-221-6686
Fort Collins, CO 80524 fax: 970-221-6398
lubenke@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:04:34 1997
From: Bromann <bromannj@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Stumper-CH books
A patron is looking for stories that focus on the "ch" sound. Does
anyone know of any? Thank you.
Also, thanks to all of you who answered my stumper about the child/animal
whose mother kisses his hand on the first day of school. It was The
Kissing Hand by Audrey Penn.
Jennifer Bromann
Head of Youth services
Prairie Trails Public Library
Burbank, IL
bromannj@sls.lib.il.us
(708) 430-3688
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 21:36:24 1997
From: Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Stumper: Zebras
According to GRZIMEK'S ENCYCLOPEDIA OF MAMMALS Vol 4 (McGraw Hill,
1990) p. 558 zebras can be and have been domesticated:
"It was not until more recent times that zebras were employed
occasionally as riding or draft animals. All wild horses have little
stamina, however, and, since there is little need for additional horse- or
ass-like domesticated animals, no serious attempts at taming or breeding
have been undertaken."
HTH!
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On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Barb Scott wrote:
>
> A patron of ours has a question: why can't zebras be
> domesticated? This patron heard Jack Hanna say something about the other
> day on a program, but unfortunately, didn't hear the answer. Is it
> because they are endangered or is it something in their physical make-up
> that makes them unable to be tamed?
> Many thanks in advance for the answer! Reply directly to me at
> scottba@oplin.lib.oh.us.
>
> Barbara Scott
> Bucyrus Public Library
> Bucyrus, Ohio 44820
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 18 22:29:19 1997
From: Catherine.Balkin@harpercollins.com (Catherine Balkin)
ubject: My Life as a 5-Grade Comedian Joke Contest
MY LIFE AS A FIFTH-GRADE COMEDIAN - THE LAUGH OFF JOKE CONTEST
Are you the funniest kid in your class?
Do your teachers think that they are stand up comedians?
Well, the HarperCollins website is the place to see who is the
funniest of them all!
Inspired by Elizabeth Levy's new book, _My Life as a Fifth Grade
Comedian_, as a back-to-school feature, we're announcing a joke
contest on the Harpercollins website: http://www.harpercollins.com.
The _My Life as a Fifth Grade Comedian_ Joke Contest begins right now
and you're welcome to send in your jokes until Friday, 11/14/97.
First, second and third funniest jokes will be chosen by
Elizabeth Levy, author of _My Life as a Fifth Grade Comedian_ and the
winners will be announced on 11/21/97.
Prizes:
The first place prize will be a complete set of HarperCollins books
written by Elizabeth Levy for your school library, and the three top
winners will each receive an autographed copy of _My Life as a Fifth
Grade Comedian_.
Contest Rules:
- This contest is open to all elementary school students and teachers.
Each participant may enter one joke only.
- HarperCollins Children's Books will delete jokes that are
innappropriate for this contest.
- You must provide the name and address of your school so that we may
notify you if you win! E-mail and school information will be kept
private and will be used only to notify winners.
- Everyone is welcome to join the contest. Please feel free to
forward information about it to any other listservs that might find it
of interest.
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