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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:43:49 1997
From: Judy Dishong <dishonju@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Daycare Theme Kits
Hello~
Due to the number of requests for the bib., I will post the entire bib. to the
list. *However*, this minor 'project' will take a little time, something which I
don't have tons of due to many wonderful workshops I'm attending (internet and
related), and Reader's Theater starting next week.
What I'm doing is pleading for your patience!! It will get done, and I will try
to answer some of your basic questions!
Thanks all~ Judy Dishong
Birchard Public Library
Fremont, Ohio 43420
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:43:49 1997
From: Jeanine Asche <aschej@pls.lib.ca.us>
ubject: School Librarians
I felt I had to respond to the posting regarding school librarians
being overworked and why this then makes it difficult for them to work
evenings and weekends. I certainly agree that school librarians do have
too much to do and I have great respect for what they are able to
accomplish, but please remember that public children's librarians are
also often overworked. They work with a demanding public daily, often
splitting themselves between reference desks, children's desks,
story hours, drop in group visits, hoards of after school kids with
unanswerable assignments, and impatient parents. The list could
go on and on, but I'm probably preaching to the choir.
I think what has to be addressed is a close examination of why school or
public librarians are really there... for the kids. If hours of
service are not meeting the needs of the kids, then there should
be a rexamination of priorities and cooperative action and advocacy to
accomplish this. Public children's librarians also have a life outside of
work and would probably rather not work nights and weekends after their
exhausting days, but the bottom line is that's when the kids need us most.
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JEANINE ASCHE "The "juvenile" book...has grass and
Youth Services Program Manager earth and familiar things on a level
San Mateo County Libraries with the child's eyes, but it also
25 Tower Road, San Mateo, CA 94402 has treetops and wind and stars to
phone:650/312-5263;fax:312-5382 draw his gaze upward."-from "Yeast
email: aschej@pls.lib.ca.us in the Mind" by Mabel Leigh Hunt
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:43:48 1997
From: Elaine Williams <williael@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Thanks-historical fiction w/famous person
Dear Pubyaccers~
Thanks to all who responded to my request for historical fiction
that features a character who meets a famous person. My request generated
over twenty titles, so I will post a bibliography to the list. I pulled
some of the titles for my patron to choose from. I thank you again on her
behalf as well!
Elaine Williams
Children's Librarian
Lynchburg Branch Library, OH
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:43:47 1997
From: oburg_libjuv@InfoAve.Net
Subject: FAIRY TALE CLASSIFICATION
Thanks to everyone who responded to my query on fairy tale classification.
In answer to a request that I post the consensus opinion, here it
is......and boy, have I had a cataloging education..... much more than I got
in graduate school! :)
Basically, the answer is this: Both Dewey and LC classify ALL materials.
All information was intended to fit into one of the ten classes. However,
libraries have historically pulled out fiction and sometimes biography to
make searching for these materials more user-friendly. Otherwise all
fiction would be in 800's and biography in 900's. I have been admonished
to remember that Dewey Decimal classification does not equal nonfiction.
Fairy tales are in the 300's because they reflect the culture of a society
and therefore belong in the Social Sciences Class.
Thank you to everyone who responded. And to those who realized that since I
am a children's librarian I look at life in very simple and concrete terms,
THANKS for the simple and concrete explanations. :)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:43:48 1997
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: Importance of reading aloud to children
There has been a campaign among booksellers for several years that has a =
theme of "the Most Important 20 Minutes of the day...Read to your =
child." In fact Rosemary Wells did a poster and now has written a =
special book called Read to Your Bunny.The bookstores are working with =
pediatricians offices to help kids get interested in reading as early as =
possible. A "prescription for reading" program has appeared in the =
Boston area between doctors and librarians too. Some of these campaigns =
have decended from the Year of the Child and the Year of the Lifelong =
Reader campaigns through, I think, the Library of Congress. All this =
info is from memory, so may be under-accurate. I'll try to dig for my =
old flyers....
Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:43:49 1997
From: Andria Amaral <AMARALA@charleston.lib.sc.us>
Subject: YA surveys
Hi all,
I've been reading with interest many of your great YA program ideas, and many
of you refer to teen interest surveys that you have done in your community. As
a brand-new YA librarian, I also want to find out "who's out there and what
they want." I'm curious to know what sort of questions you asked, and how
you
distributed the surveys, and collected responses.
You can reply to me privately, and if you have copies of your teen surveys
available, I would really appreciate your "snail mailing" them to me
at the
below address.
Thanks in advance!
Andria Amaral
Young Adult Librarian
Charleston County Public Library
404 King St.
Charleston, SC 29403
amarala@charleston.lib.sc.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:43:48 1997
From: Lu Benke <lubenke@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us>
Subject: Training all staff to work with children
Plans to reorganize our library in January include putting staff
from both the children's department and adult services department into one
Public Services Department that will staff ALL information desks, both
children's and adult's, at the Main and branch libraries. In preparation
for this, we will be training staff in the intricacies and reference
issues for each department. We would also like to train staff in how to
best interact with children of all ages and families.
We're a fairly large public library that serves 100,000 and will
have a combined staff of about 30 in the Public Service Department. We
will open our first full-sized branch in January and it was felt the staff
could better cover the service desks at both locations if grouped together
and assigned as needed.
Has anyone in PUBYAC Land gone through a similar change? With
what results? Any advice on what pitfalls to avoid or what worked
particularly well?
We would like to have a staff inservice that prepares staff with
some of the information and skills necessary to keep the library an
inviting place for kids. While children's department staff could develop
the training program, and we could bring in child development
specialists/instructors, we are wondering if there are any great resource
people out there with a prepared program on this topic, or any videos
that would help.
We are thinking of providing some basic information about
- how to approach kids,
- significant differences in developmental levels and how that
affects communication and service,
- defining and dealing with inappropriate behaviors positively,
- and just plain old how to be respectful of all ages.
Are there other topics we should be sure to include? Any encouraging
words would also be appreciated.
Lu Benke
Media and Children's Services
Fort Collins Public Library
201 Peterson Street phone: 970-221-6686
Fort Collins, CO 80524 fax: 970-221-6398
lubenke@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:43:47 1997
From: rvaillancourt@carmel.lib.in.us (Renee Vaillancourt)
ubject: BIB: fairy tale retellings (summary)
Thanks to all who responded to my request for fairy tale retellings
appropriate for junior high or high school boys. Here is a summary of
responses:
Novels
Fire and Hemlock--Dianna Wynne Jones
Kate Crackernuts--Katherine Briggs
Tam Lin--Pamela Dean
The Magic Circle--Donna Napoli
Zel--Donna Napoli
Prince of the Pond--Donna Napoli
Jimmy, the Pickpocket of the Palace--Donna Napoli
Nightingale--Karen Dalkey
Sun, Moon, and Stars--Steven Brust
Brian Rose--Jane Yolen
Snow White, Rose Red--Patricia Wrede
Beauty--Robin McKinley
Rose Daughter--Robin McKinley
Deerskin--Robin McKinley
Outlaws of Sherwood--Robin McKinley
What Happened in Hamelin--Gloria Skurzynski
Singer to the Sea God--Vivien Alcock
Othello--Julius Lester
Rusalka--C. J. Cherryh
Jack of Kinrowan--Charles de Lint
The Firebird--Mercedes Lackey
The Marvelous Misadventures of Sebastian--Lloyd Alexander
Early Years of Merlin--T.A. Barron
Seven Wonders of Merlin--T.A. Barron
Knights of the Kitchen Table--Jon Scieszka
Ella Enchanted--Gail Carson Levine
Fairy Tales or Picture Books
The Irish Cinderlad--retold by Shirley Climo
Boots and the Glass Mountain--retold by Claire Martin
Billy Beg and His Bull--retold by Ellin Greene
Sidney Rella and the Glass Slipper--Bernice Myers
The Stinky Cheese Man--Jon Scieszka
Cinder Edna--Ellen Jackson
Three Little Wolves and the Big Bad Pig--Eugene Trivizas
The True Story of the Three Little Pigs--Jon Scieszka
The Frog Prince, Continued--Jon Scieska
The Wanderings of Odysseus--Rosemary Sutcliff
Black Ships before Troy--Rosemary Sutcliff
The Cowboy and the Black Eyed Pea--Tony Johnston
Faithful Friend--Robert San Souci
Excalibur--Hudson Talbott
Collections
Tales from the Sisters Grimm--Tanith Lee
Truly Grim Tales--Patricia Galloway
Untold Tales--William Brooke
A Teller of Tales--William Brooke
Frantic Frogs and other Frankly Fractured Folktales for Reader's
Theater--Anthony Fredericks
New Title (unsure of genre)
Bubba the Cowboy Prince: a Fractured Texas Tale--Helen Ketteman
Folk Tales
Paul Bunyan
Big John
Pecos Bill
"The Boy Who Could Not Get the Shivers" (Grimms)
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Renee J. Vaillancourt
Young Adult Services Coordinator rvaillancourt@carmel.lib.in.us
Carmel Clay Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:50:29 1997
From: "Eastside Branch Library" <sbeast@rain.org>
Subject: Caution: Friday Humor - A Lighthearted Look at ListServs
Q: How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to
change a light bulb?
A: 1,331
1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the
light bulb has been changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how
the light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing
light bulbs.
53 to flame the spell checkers.
156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the
light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail
list.
41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to
please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb.
203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling
and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped.
111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use
light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this
mail list.
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior,
where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs
work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light
bulbs
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post
corrected URLs.
3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant
to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list.
33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including
all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too."
12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant
for, leave it there.
143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:50:34 1997
From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@hotmail.com>
Subject: food for fines for the holidays
Hello all:
This is a little off the usual path, but I am looking for information,
and this is a great place to find it! :)
At our library, the children's room staff has proposed having a food for
fines program for the holiday season. We have the support of most of
the staff for the charity part of the idea, but several staff members
feel that they do not want to lose the fine money from people who have
long overdue items (our maximum fine is $2 per book and we keep our fine
money for book purchases). One camp says "Who cares about the money for
this short period of time. It's more important to give to the
community!" The other camp feels that giving to the community is great,
but maybe we should keep the fines in the computer and just set up a
cornucopia for generous folks to give food as well.
I'm wondering if any of you have run programs like this, and if so what
the positives and negatives are. If you can email me directly before
next Friday, I'd really appreciate it.
TIA
Lisa
Lisa Prolman
Assistant Children's Librarian
Greenfield Public Library
Greenfield, MA
(413)772-1590
lprolman@hotmail.com
"Nothing is impossible to anyone impervious to reason."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:50:49 1997
From: Tiffany Schwartz <schwartz@noblenet.org>
Subject: filtering software problems?
For any library that is using filtering or blocking software...I am
curious if you have had any "problems" with them. Specifically, any
public complaint of access to an inappropriate site that slipped through
the filtering software.
I am gathering information for an upcoming meeting (Nov. 20).
Please reply to me directly. Thanks for your time.
Tiffany
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Tiffany Schwartz | Lucius Beebe Memorial Library
Young Adults' Librarian | Wakefield, Massachusetts
schwartz@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange*
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:50:59 1997
From: Sally Kintner <skintner@wln.com>
Subject: Pen Pals
Thanks to all who responded to the pen pal question. Recommended
resources: Home Education Magazine, New Moon Magazine, Encyclopedia of
Associations, Book of Hot Lists for Kids. My patron is very happy!
Sally Kintner Whatcom Co. Library System skintner@wln.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Nov 7 18:51:12 1997
From: Jerri Garretson <jerri@spooky.manhattan.lib.ks.us>
ubject: Impossible assignments
Here's my impossible assignment example of the day:
A KINDERGARTNER, you read right, is looking for books AT HIS LEVEL, on
doing science fair experiments. Yes, it is an assignment. Yes, they have
to do an "experiment." And yes, he was in with his mother, who will
have
to do the planning and reading involved. I asked whether "he" had any
idea
what kind of topic he wanted to work on and the answer was no. Why is a
kindergartner involved in such an assignment. He can't even read yet!
Jerri
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jerri Garretson "Persist"
Head of Children's Services
Manhattan Public Library & North Central Kansas Libraries System
629 Poyntz Avenue
Manhattan KS 66502-6086
Email: jerri@manhattan.lib.ks.us
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