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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 00:00:17 1997
From: medchild@jcls.org (Medford Children's Department)
ubject: STUMPERS-King who wants to gets rid of mice.....
Anyone remember this book? Patron remembers a picture book from the 60's or
70's about a king who wants to get rid of mice, so he gets cats. Then, to
get rid of the cats, he gets dogs, then elephants.....Finally, he gets mice
to get rid of the elephants. We have checked A to Zoo, Children's Catalog
and Storytellers Sourcebook with no success. TIA to anyone who can help.
Patt Colwell
Children's Librarian
Jackson County Library
Medford, Oregon
medchild@jcls.org
Thanks to all who replied to the above query (lots of you knew this
book--Wow!) The answer is in fact, "The King, the Mice and The Cheese"
by
Nancy Guerney. Sorry it took us so long to say thanks. When we offered
this title to the patron, he turned it down at first without looking, since
our catalog had a newer edition with a more recent publication date.
Anyway, when we finally insisted he take a look at the book itself, he was
delighted and grateful. Once again, thanks for the good work. Patt
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 00:00:17 1997
From: midstaff@erinet.com
Subject: Stumper-the Abandoned
Hi folks,
Perhaps this isn't really a Stumper its true sense of the word so I hope I'm
not committing some Stumper faux pas but it had some Stumper like qualities
so here goes:
A patron is trying to track down a children's book titled The Abandoned by
an author with last name Griffith. It is about a little boy who is hit by a
car and apparently comes back as a cat. He is befriended by another cat who
teaches him about life as a feline. The patron remembers it being a large
white book. She's not sure how old the book is. We're guessing over 25
years at least.
I know, so what's the Stumper. Well, it looks like this book is out of
print. I've checked BIP. I suggested to her that she try a local bookstore
who offers an out-of-print search service and I'm also going to try to ILL
with the info that I have.
What I was wondering was if anyone out there is familiar with this title and
might possibly have some insight on it. Have you ever heard of it? Seen
it? Read it?, etc.
Thanks,
Julie Pfeiffer
Children's Librarian
Middletown Public Library
Middletown, Ohio
midstaff@erinet.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 00:00:09 1997
From: cp804@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kara J. Cervelli)
Subject: Re: Stumpers: Scarecrow / Caterpillar
Thanks to all who responded to my scarecrow stumper! The title is "the
Little Old Lady Who Was Not Afraid of Anything" by Linda Williams.
My patron, a preschool teacher, is so happy!
I can always count on the collective wisdom out there!
Thanks!
--
Kara Cervelli "And a hey nonny nonny dum day!"
Perry Public Library -Tom Chapin-
3753 Main St. Perry, OH 44081 "The Troubador"
cp804@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 16:36:40 1997
From: C.Allen.Nichols@wadsworth.lib.oh.us (C. Allen Nichols)
Subject: Re: IF and youth
marykchelton wrote:
>
> >For any library that is using filtering or blocking software...I am
> >curious if you have had any "problems" with them.
Specifically, any
> >public complaint of access to an inappropriate site that slipped
through
> >the filtering software.
>
> I find this post fascinating. Is it the position of most people on this
> list that Internet filters are a foregone conclusion? Most of the ALAOIF
> List discussion is, in one way or another, about kids and their rights to
> information, but it rarely seems to be an issue here. Is "youth
advocacy"
> dead? Or is there some communal assumption that PUBYAC is only for
> practical problems, not philosophical, as if managing IF problems were not
> a practical issue. Has this concern been delegated "up" to
library managers
> and trustees?
<snip>
I agree with you in saying that part of youth advocacy is promoting
access to information for youth. I have a strong belief in the rights
of young adults to information and work hard as a library director to
insure their access to it.
I might point out that the concern you raise about PUBYAC and its
members seemingly accepting filters as a foregone conclusion is due to
the fact that the vast majority of PUBYAC posters are children's
librarians. Although the number of YA related postings has increased of
late, most folks are not serving young adults or they are doing so
because they have to...unfortunately, these folks don't share our
concerns for YAs.
For some people it is easy to philosophically accept the use of filters
for "protecting" children (including YAs); however YAs, in my mind, do
not need that same level of "protection" as children do. While I do
not
want them sitting in the public library viewing hard core sex acts,
their informational needs are far greater and broader than most filters
today allow.
Some food for thought...
Ciao
--
PLEASE NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBER - 330-335-1299
C. Allen Nichols 1998 Ohio Library Association
Director Vice President/President-elect
Wadsworth Public Library
132 Broad Street
Wadsworth, OH 44281
c.allen.nichols@wadsworth.lib.oh.us
330-334-6605 - FAX
"One soon learns that so long as books are kept open then minds can
never be closed" - Ronald Reagan
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 16:36:40 1997
From: MARYJO9@aol.com
Subject: Re: comic books
This is in reply to the query about comic books. My former library started
circulating comic books and graphic novels this summer. They are both very
popular. We get some of the comic books from our regular magazine supplier.
The rest we get from a local comic book store. Hope this helps.
Mary J.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 16:37:10 1997
From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
Subject: Re: School Assignments Redux 1 Oct 1995
RichardGuy@aol.com wrote:
>
> Subj: Re: Homework assignments (fwd)
> Date: Thu, Oct 5, 1995 4:28 PM EDT
>
>
> jimcasey@CLASS.ORG writes:
> < In my 23 years as a public librarian in both reference and
administration
> areas, it has always vexed me that school libraries serving k-12 students
are
> closed after about 3:30 PM on weekdays. They are closed on late afternoons,
> evenings, weekends, extended holidays, supplemental holidays (like teacher
> workshops) and all Summer. While pupils are in classes during the day, the
> library is open, but when they get out and have time to use the library to
do
> their homework, the school library closes..... The K-12 Schools have
> "delegated" their library service obligations to public libraries
for many,
> many years and the public libraries have never really been recognized via
> dollars for the vitally important education service they provide. While
> public schools in our area take some 59% of the property tax revenue, the
> public library only gets 4%.<
>
> A few points:
> 1. Recent Gallup surveys published in Public Libraries documented that
> "formal education support" is the number one role of the public
library
> according to both members of the community and community
"leaders". So, as
> Ric Flair, says "you may not like, but you got to learn to live with
it.":
> this is a role that the community expects us to play.
Gallup polls don't pay the bills, nor do they staff the service desks.
By "formal education support" consider that you are talking about
pre-schools
through university. Consider also that you are often talking about many k-12
schools (public, parochial and private) in a public library's service area.
We have 18 k-12 schools in our 8 square mile service area. In my previous
directorship, we had 4 school districts and 1 supplementary school district
in a 500 square mile county -- 4 highschools, 4 middle schools, 16 elementary
schools, and two special education schools. It was all but impossible for
kids attending most of those schools to get to any library during the week
because the one and only public library building was located some 5-15 miles
away. Despite our 7 day per week hours of service, our budget was so tight
that we could afford to have only one MLS on the public library staff (me),
the building (8,000 square feet) was 105 years old and no branches could be
afforded. The school districts, on the other hand could afford to have at
least 6 MLS trained librarians among the 4 districts and umpteen Assistant
Superintendents, etc. and library facilities in practically every town and
village in that county. -- Still, some 6 years and 3 failed levies later,
the situation remains much the same for my former public library.
How can public libraries do a creditable job of providing library service
to support the homework and study of thousands of kids without the active
and tangible support of the k-12 public schools? Where are the school
librarians on late afternoons, evenings, weekends, holidays, etc.?
Might it also be fair to say that public libraries are expected to serve
people of ALL ages and backgrounds - not just students? The overwhelming
majority of people are NOT in school. Is lifetime learning supposed to
be relegated to a secondary status? What about recreational reading and
learning? Maybe the Gallup polls forgot about that aspect of a public
library's service mission.
> 2. As pointed out in YALSA's Directions for Library Services to Youth,
every
> teen has a job (and every child) and that job is going to school: thus, by
> serving students, we are meeting both the formal education role and the
> independent learning role.
Why aren't libraries mentioned in the education standards published in various
states as "essential to the education process"? The third class status
of school
libraries seems to be acceptable to the school librarians - as long as their
pay is high and their hours are short. If the school librarians aren't willing
to fight for library service to the students, why should the umpteen school
administrators care? If the public libraries are expected to carry the library
service load, this must be recognized in the standards as well and provision
must be made to insure that the public library in question has resources
adequate
to meet that service need.
> 3. School library media centers, despite being devasted by budget cuts, are
> important parts of schools - the Library Power program has demonstrated
> what school libraries can do when they are able to shine. Media centers are
> open the hours they are open because that's when the kids are there: it
seems
> obvious but it is worth repeating. A cafeteria located in a factory
wouldn't
> be open when no one was working, so why would a school media center be open
> when the "workers" have left their jobs for the day?
Could a Community College, College and University be considered in the same
light? Why should academic libraries be open to serve the homework and study
needs of their students after classes let out? Yet, academic libraries provide
7 day per week service to meet the needs of their clientele. I think that it
is fair to say that academic librarians provide massive amounts of bibliographic
instruction as well as comprehensive library service. Academic libraries are
an important part of the mission of higher education and would never be entirely
wiped out as they were back in the 1980s in the k-12 schools of California after
Proposition 13. The k-12 school librarians are content to simply operate
"Bibliographic Classrooms" and as such are not only far more
expendable in the
budget process, but serve to denigrate the role of libraries in the education
process.
Who is responsible for provision of library service to support the homework
and study of k-12 kids? Is it the school libraries which close on weekday
afternoons during the 9 month school year or is it the public libraries which
are open 7 days per week? The resources should go where the work is being done.
> 4. I agree with your overall point: public libraries should get more
> credit, more money, and more resources to serve youth. Given that, more
> communication, cooperation and education needs to take place among public
> library and school adminstrators.
Cooperation needs to be built upon a clear recognition of what library service
is and what is required to support it. K-12 education can no longer tacitly
delegate their library service obligations to the public library without giving
serious consideration to the needs of a public library which is expected to
provide service to support the curriculae of several school districts. Public
libraries can no longer quietly accept this nebulous and powerless role --
giving total cooperation while receiving no form of recognition from the schools
for the vital service which they must provide in sustaining the education
process.
More importantly, school librarians will have to speak out on behalf of
librarianship and advocate library service for their students.
> 5. Finally, what vexes me more is not that school libraries are closed, but
> that public libraries "close" their doors, especially to
teenagers, by not
> providing trained staff, adequate resources or responsive active
collections.
> I think it is more perplexing not why school libraries are closed after
> 3:30, but why when 25% of public library patrons are teenagers only 11% of
> libraries (1989 figures: anyone think YA jobs have increased?) have a YA
> librarian.
>
Show me the money! There are many thousands of public libraries across this
country which are quietly expected to serve the homework and study needs of
dozens of k-12 schools, but which can hardly afford to hire one MLS trained
librarian -- presumably the director. Where several school districts might
posses a dozen MLS or M.Ed. trained professionals at much higher salaries than
the public library could begin to pay and with many years of training and
experience in work with YAs, their library service commitment ends when
classes let out. Where, pray tell, can YAs go for library service if not
their public library with its short staffing and long hours? In point of fact,
the public libraries and some accomodating academic libraries are already
doing the work of serving YAs with precious few recources at hand.
If you recall the movie entitled "The Breakfast Club", several YA
"delinquents" are brought to school for punishment (detention) to be
served
on a Saturday morning. The site of their punishment is the locked, closed
and abandoned High School Library. -- What is a better commentary on the
way in which k-12 education has been permitted to denigrate, degrade,
emasculate, obliterate, etc. the role of libraries in the learning process?
James B. Casey - My own views as a public librarian and ALA Councilor at Large.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 16:37:56 1997
From: Holly Willett <willett@rowan.edu>
ubject: Re: School Librarians/Legal
In addition to union contracts which forbid faculty from staying beyond
certain times, other legal issues can crop up, for instance, Workmen's
Compensation. A janitor accidentally locked me into a bathroom one Friday
night. If I had not been able to extricate myself and had had to stay in
the bathroom all weekend, I might have been rather ill, but my principal
told me that I would not have been covered by Workmen's Compensation
because it happened at 5 p.m., 1 hour & 15 minutes past the legal end of
the school day in that district. I often stayed long after school was out,
but after that I was very safety conscious - especially in the bathroom!
Holly
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 16:38:41 1997
From: Catherine.Balkin@harpercollins.com (Catherine Balkin)
ubject: Jerry Spinelli
I understand that a great number of people are using _Maniac Magee_ in
classroom units at this time, and that's wonderful. It has generated
a great deal of interest in the author and his other books, and that's
wonderful, too.
The thing is, however, I am being inundated with requests for Jerry
Spinelli to do school appearances. Please be advised that Mr.
Spinelli does NOT do school appearances these days. If anyone would
like a list of HarperCollins' children's book authors and illustrators
who do appearances, do please feel free to contact me and I'll be
happy to send you the list, but keep in mind that ALL the authors and
illustrators listed charge honorariums (anywhere from $500 to $2,000 a
day, plus expenses).
Also, please feel free to pass this email along to other listservs and
to anyone you know who is thinking about trying to get Mr. Spinelli to
come for a visit. I can no longer respond to the volume of email
requests I am receiving concerning him and will be most grateful to
those of you who are willing to pass the word on.
Thank you for your attention.
Catherine Balkin
HarperCollins Children's Books
catherine.balkin@harpercollins.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 16:38:54 1997
From: Carolyn Caywood <ccaywood@leo.vsla.edu>
Subject: Re: School Assignments Redux 1 Oct 1995
Jim, you've been on this subject as long as I've known you, and what's
to show for it? You ask "Show me the money" and I agree. I want to
see the money for libraries that has been generated by one type of
librarian saying bad things about another.
I recommend to you and everyone the excellent article in the November
School Library Journal (pp24-9) by a principal that spells out ways
to increase the visibility of school libraries. If you think that
this is not your problem since you are not a school librarian, I
suggest that we all benefit from increased public awareness of any
of us.
Conversely, like politicians slinging mud at each other, when we show
disrespect for any type of library service, we do not enhance the image
of our profession or of libraries.
--
Carolyn Caywood ccaywood@leo.vsla.edu or carolyn@norfolk.infi.net
Bayside Area Library voice:757-460-7519
936 Independence Blvd. VA Beach, VA 23455 FAX:757-464-6741
Edward III's DISCLAIMER: "Honi soit qui mal y pense"
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 16:39:09 1997
From: Allison Ho <allisony@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: Concerns around audio (music) materials for youth
Hello PUBYAC:
I would like to know what type of issues you and your library need to
consider/deal with in regards to audio materials for the youth collection,
especially in regards to compact-disc music.
Are there types of music or certain music groups you would avoid adding to
the collection? What are the concerns/reasons for this decision?
Do you have a particular policy if parents/other library patrons take
issue with what is in the collection. What are other points to keep in
mind and watch out/prepare for?
My group and I are hoping to informally gather information on what is of
concern/importance in a real library setting, when it comes to collection
development in audio materials for youth services.
Please reply directly to me at: HO@slais.ubc.ca with any suggestions or
ideas you may offer.
Thank-you very much in advance for your help and advice.
Allison
********************************************************
Allison Ho, Graduate Student
School of Library, Archival and Information Studies
University of British Columbia
e-mail: HO@slais.ubc.ca
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 16:41:48 1997
From: mchelton@cadvantage.com (marykchelton)
ubject: Re: Intellectual Freedom and the Internet
Thanks, Susan. I was never on the Caldecott Committee, however, so you are
thinking of somebody else.
This entire issue may not be about just books vs. images. One of the most
virulent IF fights I've ever seen was over JOY OF GAY SEX, which is filled
with drawings of people doing it, lovingly I might add, but that was
irrelevant to those who feared that children might see the pictures.
I'm not sure you can defend words and not images, given the ideology of the
groups fighting us on this. I also think many of the groups are using the
images as a foot in the door to go after the books, or they are doing both
on different fronts. I still opt for the least restrictive
library/information-seeking environment possible. I don't think IF can
exist otherwise, and I do think kids are entitled to intellectual freedom,
period. If we just defend written text, we will be a useless archive so
fast it will make your head spin. All the information action today is with
images, or financial information.
My point was not to get anybody to agree with me, but to point out that if
there is any place on earth where a passionate discussion of this issue
should be taking place, it should be on PUBYAC, and it isn't. Instead, male
computer types who neither have, nor have worked with children or young
adults, are emoting/flaming loudly all over the ALA IF and member forum
lists, and if all the PUBYAC subscribers are on those lists, they are
silent indeed, except for Carolyn Caywood. Why aren't we sharing solutions
with each other and in those arenas, or are we so confused or divided among
ourselves? All these nice private messages to me in response to (for me) a
rather low-level rant, should be part of the list discussion, I think.
Exactly what "harm" do you see in some child (however defined) pulling
up
one of those images? Also, easy or not, the kid him or herself has to do
the pulling up in the browser. It's not an accidental action, and I think
there are a variety of solutions short of full censorship or full
supervision. I would love to see a practical discussion of some of them
here.
Just as a sort of sad-but-hilarious footnote to all this, an 18-year-old
senior in the high school of one of my students was apprehended by the
sheriff last Tuesday after he downloaded 6 pages of graphic sex images on
the school's unfiltered Internet terminal. He said that he could do this
because he was 18, but was remanded to his parents' custody--the same
parents who had given him permission to use the Internet in school.
Mary K.
>Dear Mary K--
>
>I want to take this opportunity to make my own position on this
>clear since we have discussed it publicly before but never
>privately. For all the years I was ordering books I had the quote
>from Dorothy Broderick on my desk "A good library should have
>something to offend everyone" as a reminder to *myself* that I
>had to buy things I didn't like as well as the things that might get
>me into trouble with vocal minorities. I still believe in this.
>
>But what I never hear you acknowledge is that the Internet is
>different--utterly, entirely different from what has been available
>before. It *must* be examined in that light. A child who stumbles
>on something disturbing in a book tends to skim over it or let it
>go over his head or shuts the book and gets another, but the same
>has never been true of visual images. A child who stumbles across
>an image of say, a woman having sex with a dog, or a woman with
>a large household object protruding from her vagina, will have that
>stuck in his or her mind as part of his or her sexual formation forever.
> These are the things that are available on the internet and they aren't
>hard to find.
>
>Filtering software at this time doesn't work, and probably a better
>solution is either offering totally public terminals with close supervision
>or the opposite, totally private terminals for ages 16 and up. But neither
>of these would meet with your approval either, and neither would a good
>filter that only (miraculously) blocked the XXX material and left
>everything
>else intact. This seems to me to be in direct conflict with the concern
>expressed recently by Dorothy Broderick about how libraries used to be
>the one haven and sanctuary for children. They need libraries to be that
>more than ever today.
>
>I would like to see honest discussion of the problems rather than black
>and white statements, because I see this as an extremely complicated
>issue for libraries today, one that will have a huge impact on the way the
>public perceives its libraries and its willingness to fund them.
>
>I would also like to see professors like you maintain the fight for
>intellectual
>freedom for books, because the other huge pitfall yawning before us is
>that if people like me, who are normally very liberal, see the internet
>as being the one area where children should not have the same rights of
>access as adults, then right-wingers may take that as their cue to jump
>into
>all other areas of library selection and start attacking books. They
>probably
>will. Your students will need even more to know how to fight back and
>defend the rights of their young patrons.
>
>If my name sounds familiar, it may be because we both served in the
>1986/7 Caldecott Committee. We didn't always agree then, either, but now
>as then, I hold your opinions in great regard and admire your willingness
>to
>express them publicly.
>
> --Susan Dove Lempke (71460.1037@CompuServe.com)
******************************************************************************
Mary K. Chelton, MLS, PhD
Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Management
Emporia State University
1200 Commercial
Emporia, KS 66801
phone: (316) 341-5071 work
(316)342-9277 home
fax: (316) 342-6391 home
e-mail: mchelton@cadvantage.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 19:32:36 1997
From: sandra richmond <srich@pipeline.com>
ubject: IF and Youth
I am interested in discussing philosophical issues on this listserve. I
just attended an outstanding weekend class on Censorship and the Internet
taught by Ed Valauskas. I think the general consensus was that filtering
does not work and is not the answer to the issue of pornographic material or
any other "objectionable" material on the web that might be viewed by
youth.
The library profession has already spent a lot of time and energy worrying
about this issue and wondering how to "fix" it. A lot of hype and
mythology
has been broadcast about the Internet and many people (parents) are reacting
in fear and ignorance to a new technology that is misunderstood and
misrepresented. The Internet is not a Pandora's Box of evils just waiting
to be released upon the innocence of youth. The Internet is a great
reservoir of informtion that requires a knowledgeable navigator. Librarians
must educate parents about their responsiblity to help their children learn
how to access information from the various resources that are available and
use the information wisely.
____________________________________________________________________________
____________
Sandra Richmond
SLIM Graduate Student - Emporia State University
Louisville Public Library
Youth Services Department
Louisville, CO 80027
richmond@boulder.lib.co.us work
srich@pipeline.com home
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 19:32:40 1997
From: Killeen3@aol.com
Subject: School assignments
I would like to make a public response to comments regarding school libraries
and librarians. I do not subscribe to this listserve, but was forwarded a
message and asked for my ideas, so here they are:
1) School libraries are usually staffed by one professional (often not
full-time) and one paraprofessional. They generally work 35 - 40 hours a
week and the school libraries are open those hours. They have
responsibilities for all functions of the libraries and other school-related
work as well.
2) Most school assignments given to students are from teachers and not
librarians. School librarians assist teachers and students as much as
possible during the school day to finish research and complete projects.
Students have class time and study hall time to acquire needed resources.
Those who "storm" the public libraries usually have procrastinated and
are
trying to do work at the last minute.
3) Stress is high in any library job - believe me, I have worked in many
types of libraries and each has different benefits and problems. The secret
to happy work is to find the right environment for your temperment.
4) No one in the library community needs to point fingers about salaries
and/or work loads. We are all overworked and underpaid. Very few in the
library profession are making BIG BUCKS!!! Let's not bicker over who is in
the worst state!!!
5) Public librarians who think that school people have it made should come
on over. We have a shortage of good school librarians and would welcome
competant professionals to join our credentialed ranks. It's a great career
and the kids are very rewarding. (Those of you in children's rooms know what
I mean!!;)!!)
6) If you think that school libraries should be open on nights and weekends,
go to your local schoolboard and tell them that!!! We would welcome
additional staff and funding to support those hours. Sports programs get
that type of support but we are hanging by our fingernails to keep full
staffing during school hours!!
7) Remember -- during your adult service hours during the day, we are
keeping between 400 - 2000 kids busy in classrooms of every school in
America. Some parties would like to eliminate us and give you the entire
responsibility for supporting curriculum research, etc.
8) Finally, our kids come to us without parents every day. Many of our
students are bus riders who never have rides to the public library. We
school librarians are the only librarians they have ever known. We try to
instill the library spirit so they will be library users and supporters as
adults, even if their parents aren't.
Thanks for listening to me. Your comments are welcome. I LOVE public
libraries and school libraries and academic libraries and business libraries
and government libraries and . . . . . . You get the idea!!!!
Erlene Bishop Killeen
Stoughton Area School District
Stoughton, WI
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 19:32:50 1997
From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
ubject: Re: School Assignments Redux 1 Oct 1995
I've been a school librarian and a public librarian, both. And,
I have to tell you, sending forms through the mail asking busy teachers to
do one more thing or attending a faculty meeting once to impress your
public library assignment policies upon teachers, or blindly assigning
impossible tasks for your students, just doesn't work.
How about we public librarians treating this problem with on-going
education. Get to know your teachers by name. Meet with them at faculty
meetings regularly. Not just once, but often enough that they look
forward to seeing you and hearing what you have to say and share. Bring
examples of the assignments you have heard and the trouble you have had
with helping students find what they need. Some are good for a laugh.
Some will open your eyes to the intent behind the assignment--or the
correct version of the assignment. We all know kids' memories for
assignments are faulty at times. Even offer solutions about how to guide
the kids to getting the most success out of an assignment.
Teachers--if you don't know the public library and librarian you
are sending your kids to, you are really setting your assignment and your
students up to fail, or at least frustration. Public librarians, if they
know your goals in an assignment, might be able to help you craft it to
fit the materials available--or the access points. (Don't tell them to
look for a card catalog if the public library is automated, for instance.)
We have to work together on this...and once is never enough. If
you know someone personally, you are more likely to think of them, and
they are more likely to think of you when your worlds intersect. And the
kids win. Hope this helps. - jeri
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 19:33:03 1997
From: "Carl A. Harvey II" <02caharvey@bsuvc.bsu.edu>
ubject: Request for Internet Books
Dear PUBYACers,
I come again to ask for your suggestions and recommendations. They
have always been so helpful in the past. This time I am trying to compile
a bibliography of Internet books for an elementary professional
collection. Our school is planning on having the Internet sometime this
year, and we are hoping to purchase a collection of materials to help our
teachers integrate it into the curriculum. Please reply directly to me
at: 02caharvey@bsuvc.bsu.edu and I will post the list. If you could
include ISBNs and any other information you might have about your
recommendation I would greatly appreciate it. TIA.
Carl Harvey
:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)
CARL ADRIAN HARVEY II
02caharvey@bsuvc.bsu.edu charvey.sppl@incosla.palni.edu
School Media Services Major Specialized Library Assistant
Ball State University Speedway Public Library
Muncie, Indiana 5633 W. 25th Street
Speedway, Indiana 46224
charvey@indy.net OPINIONS EXPRESSED
Speedway, Indiana ARE CLEARLY MY OWN!
CHarvey@pike.k12.in.us
Apprentice Learning Leader
New Augusta Public Academy South
Web Page - http://bsuvc.bsu.edu/~02caharvey/
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 19:33:49 1997
From: C.Allen.Nichols@wadsworth.lib.oh.us (C. Allen Nichols)
Subject: Re: children's librarians
Cynthia Stilley wrote:
>
> Here's a question? Which (if any) library schools emphasize children's
> librarianship and turn out first-rate children's librarians?
>
>
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> Cynthia S. Stilley (810) 232-7111 #234
> Flint Public Library FAX: (810)232-8360
> 1026 E. Kearsley, cstilley@flint.lib.mi.us
> Flint, MI 48502 http://www.flint.lib.mi.us/fpl.html
>
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I would be remiss if I didn't say that the Kent State University School
of Library and Information Science does a super job preparing and
training children's librarians. Since her arrival at the school a
number of years ago, Dr. Carolyn Brodie has energized the program and
provides a well-rounded and enjoyable learning experience.
I have worked with and hired a number of KSU graduates. I know what to
expect from the graduates; (a philosophical approach to advocating and
promoting children's services and a level of practical experience that
truly is practical) I look at job applicants from Kent knowing that
their on-the-job training will be minimal.
If you or friends/co-workers are planning on a career in children's
librarianship and are looking for a school - Kent is the place.
Ciao
--
PLEASE NOTE NEW PHONE NUMBER - 330-335-1299
C. Allen Nichols 1998 Ohio Library Association
Director Vice President/President-elect
Wadsworth Public Library
132 Broad Street
Wadsworth, OH 44281
c.allen.nichols@wadsworth.lib.oh.us
330-334-6605 - FAX
"One soon learns that so long as books are kept open then minds can
never be closed" - Ronald Reagan
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 19:33:56 1997
From: COFFEYC@MEMPHIS.LIB.TN.US
Subject: Stumper
I have a 70-something year old patron who wants to find a book from childhood.
We're looking for a book that has a goat(?) character called "Billy
Whiskers."
Thanks,
Clare Coffey
Coffeyc@memphis.lib.tn.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Nov 11 19:34:04 1997
From: Holly Willett <willett@rowan.edu>
ubject: Re: children's librarians
At the risk of being accused of being biased because I taught there, I'd
have to say that Texas Woman's University in Denton has a high commitment
to youth services, with 4 faculty members teaching in youth and school
librarianship. In addition, the dean of the school is an ALSC and YALSA
member, and he and one of the youth faculty members are the current editors
of JOYS. In addition, they have an excellent doctoral program, and quite a
few of the doctoral students are in the youth and school area. The
students I had there were excellent, but then, I also think that of most
library ed students I've had!
Holly
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