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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:17:24 1997
From: Susan Graf <SUSANG@ccgwhub.co.clark.nv.us>
ubject: Importance of reading aloud to children -Reply


Jim Trelease's _The Read Aloud Handbook_ cites lots of good research and quotable quotes. Another one of my favorites is _They're Never Too Young for Books_ by McGovern (there's a new edition in 94 or 5)

Good luck,

Susan

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:17:29 1997
From: Susan Graf <SUSANG@ccgwhub.co.clark.nv.us>
ubject: Weeding Children's Books -Reply


Contact the Texas State Library and get a copy of _The CREW Method: Expanded Guidelines for Collection Evaluation and Weeding for Small and Medium-Sized Public Libraries_ It's about $20.00, and everyone here at my library likes the system. Actually we got it because our State Library folks did workshops all over using this system.

Susan

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:17:27 1997
From: Walter Minkel <walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Re: ornament ideas


On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, A. Day wrote:

> Hello, all. To celebrate our community's annual Cold Nights, Warm Lights
> kickoff to the winter holiday season we are having a tree trimming event in
> the youth services department. The plan is to have the kids create three
> different, but simple, ornaments that represent Kwanzaa, Hanukkah and
> Christmas to decorate an evergreen in the department...

This idea, um, really bothers me. I've known a great many people who
celebrate Hannukah in my life, & the message I've always received from
them is that "Hanukkah is _not_ Christmas." Neither is Kwanzaa. By putting
a few ornaments that nod at H & K on a big Christmas tree, you're sending
a pretty clear message which holiday is the most important, & which is
subordinate. How about an eight-foot menorah with a little Santa beneath
it? I don't think most of your users would like that. Please keep these
holidays separate; they are _not_ the same. How do others feel? --W

Walter Minkel, School Corps Technology Trainer
Multnomah County Library, 205 NE Russell St., Portland, OR 97212
Voice (503)736-6002; fax (503)248-5441; walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us
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O gnats--tango! --Palindrome-of-the-month Club


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:17:26 1997
From: "Barbara J. Lintner" <blintner@net66.com>
ubject: Re: kidspeak


One of our favorites is the kid who called and asked for "the speed of light
in a vacuum cleaner." I'd love to hear others. -Barb

At 12:35 PM 11/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear PUBYACers,
>
>Our library is looking for some humorous ways kids and adults have stated
>their requests for books or subjects. If you have a memorable one to share,
>please send it to my attention at Rutland_Free@dol.state.vt.us
>
>If there is interest, I will post to the list.
>
>Thank you.
>
>June Osowski Children's LIbrarian Rutland Free Library
>
>
>


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:17:26 1997
From: Susan Graf <SUSANG@ccgwhub.co.clark.nv.us>
ubject: children's librarians -Reply


I can answer this one! I attended Texas Woman's University (1993-94) because of their great children's program. Dr. Frances Dowd was my major professor, and in addition to her expertise TWU has Dr. Betty Carter and Dr. Joy McGregor--plus a couple of other faculty who have been added since '94. Sadly, Dr. Jim Thomas, early childhood guru, has left-But I think TWU has a great program for children's and school librarians.

Susan Graf
Family Services Librarian
North Las Vegas Library District
susang@ci.north-las-vegas.nv.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:17:26 1997
From: Susan Graf <SUSANG@ccgwhub.co.clark.nv.us>
ubject: Re:Juvenile bindings -Reply


I purchased a LOT of the more expensive bindings, and have had the titles just walk away after a circ or two (sigh)--My rule of thumb is: if it is non-fiction, I go for the library binding. Pictures books, early readers both wear out pages, look dirty, worn, etc long before the binding is worn out,so I go for trade bindings. The exceptions are books I know will circ a hundred times--Suess, Crews, Bunting, Gibbons, etc.

Susan

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:17:27 1997
From: Shailoo Bedi <shailoo@interchg.ubc.ca>
Subject: Question about burnout and stress


Hello,


I am a second year student in the Masters of Library and Information
Science programme at UBC. Presently, I am enrolled in Judi Saltman's
"Children's Services" class. I am working on a paper about Children's
librarians and burnout: what is it; how to avoid it; pacing on the job;
dealing with stresses of the job, etc... I have read several general
sources about burnout and stress in library servies, but I would like
your thoughts on what children's librarians face day to day on the job
that are stressful and can lead to burnout. Are there any progammes or
support for children's librarians to discuss the ever changing and
growing demands of being a children's librarian?

I would appreciate any comments about this issue.

Thank you.

Please send responses to: shailoo@unixg.ubc.ca

Sincerely,
Shailoo Bedi

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:19:43 1997
From: mchelton@cadvantage.com (marykchelton)
ubject: CDA redux


>From the ALAOIF list:

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:23:36 -0600
From: Don Wood <dwood@ala.org>
To: ala-ifc@ala1.ala.org, alaoif@ala1.ala.org, ftrf-l@ala1.ala.org,
ifaction@ala1.ala.org, ifrt@ala1.ala.org, merritt-l@ala1.ala.org
Subject: " Sequel to the Notorious Communications Decency Act"
Message-ID: <s469e6c1.013@ala.org>

Just when you thought the Internet was safe from government
censorship, Sen. Dan Coats has introduced a sequel to the
notorious Communications Decency Act.

The bill punishes commercial distributors of material
that's "harmful to minors" with six months in jail and a
$50,000 fine. Unlike the original CDA, it applies only to
web sites -- not to chatrooms, newsgroups, or email.

Like the original CDA, it's certain to be controversial.
Sen. Coats (R-Indiana), chief GOP sponsor of the original
CDA, said his bill takes into account the Supreme Court's
unanimous vote in June that struck down his first try. "I
have studied the opinion of the Court and come before my
colleagues today to introduce legislation that reflects the
parameters laid out by the Court's opinion," he said on the
Senate floor.
(ftp://ftp.loc.gov/pub/thomas/c105/s1482.is.txt)

Coats' brainchild is strikingly similar to (and in fact not
as broad as) an ill-fated version of the first CDA that
Rep. Rick White (R-Wash.) and the Center for Democracy and
Technology embraced as a "compromise" in December 1995.
Like Coats' bill, the White-CDT measure restricted material
that was "harmful to minors."
(http://www.epic.org/cda/hyde_letter.html)

A Coats staffer said the measure requires adult
pornographers to place images behind a firewall. "If you're
involved in the commercial distribution of material that's
harmful to minors, you have to take the bad stuff and put
it on the other side of a credit card or PIN number," David
Crane said.

But the bill applies to more than just visual pornography.
Its definition of material that could hurt minors includes
any offensive sexual "communication" or "writing" without
redeeming value. It applies to text-only web pages -- or
bookstores that place sample chapters on the web.

Since it covers anyone who "through the World Wide Web is
engaged in the business of the commercial distribution of
material that is harmful to minors," it could apply to
Internet providers and online services as well.

The FCC and the Department of Justice would be required to
publish on their web sites "such information as is
necessary to inform the public of the meaning of the term
`material that is harmful to minors.'" Solveig Singleton, a
lawyer at the Cato Institute, says: "The Supreme Court
struggled for years to come up with a national defintion of
obscenity. They failed. Harmful to minors is
obscenity-lite. The FCC and Department of Justice won't
have any luck coming up with a definition of
obscenity-lite."

Not a problem, predicts former porn-prosecutor Bruce
Taylor, now the head of the National Law Center for
Children and Families. "This bill will ensure that the
hardcore pornographers don't get off the hook," he says.

Next step for Coats is to attract co-sponsors and to forward
his bill to the Senate Commerce committee. Some judges
criticized Congress for holding no hearings on the original
CDA; Coats isn't going to make that mistake again. "There
will be a concerted effort to build a substantial
legislative history," says David Crane.

This bill won't be the end of Congressional interest in
cyberporn. "You'll probably see other legislation come
forward. Introducing this is not abandoning our other
concerns," Crane says.

-Declan


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Mary K. Chelton, MLS, PhD
Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Management
Emporia State University
1200 Commercial
Emporia, KS 66801
phone: (316) 341-5071 work
(316)342-9277 home
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:20:08 1997
From: Brenda <bkohn@sendit.sendit.nodak.edu>
ubject: damaged videos



Lately we have had several damaged videos (tape broke) returned with the
person saying it must have been damaged before they checked it out because
they put the video in and the tape caught and broke and they have played
videos in their machine since and they work fine so it must be that the tape
was damaged when they checked it out. They certainly don't feel they should
have to pay for it, it was not their fault, is their opinion.

We need a policy to handle this kind of situation. Do you require they pay
anyway? Full price, or a fee? I asked one of our local video rental stores
and they expect the customer to pay full price if it comes back broken. I
want to do what seems fair, both to us and our patrons.

If any of you are willing to share your method of handling this kind of
situation I would be grateful!

Thank you,

Brenda Kohn
Children's Librarian
Jamestown, North Dakota
bkohn@sendit.nodak.edu


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:22:17 1997
From: jd663@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Victoria Vannucci)
Subject: YA advisory group


Hello!

Thank God for PUBYAC!
I am a fairly new YA librarian who is trynig to start up a YA advisory
group. The library I work at is undergoing a major expansion and
will have a grand opening in January. I would like to get the members
of my advisory group somehow involved in the activities for the grand
opening. There will be an open house on a Sunday where people will
browse, there will be giveaways, kind of a chance to familiarize the
community with the new library. Does anyone have any ideas of what I
can do that would involve the kids in the grand opening and still
be fun for them?
Also, I would love to hear how some of you have worked with your advisory
groups and how they have helped you.

Thanks!

YOu can email me directly with you responses:
jd663@cleveland.freenet.edu

Victoria Vannucci, YA librarian
Euclid Public Library

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:23:26 1997
From: "Children's Dept." <childrens.library@utmb.edu>
Subject: Filtering software on the Internet


I realize that I'm jumping into the fray a little late, but Mary K.'s
queries about youth services librarians' seeming casual acceptance of
filtering software touched a nerve.

I believe that people post queries for information to this listserve
because it has proven time and again to be an invaluable resource for a
wide variety of experiences and ideas, and it is important that this
aspect of the listserv not be squelched by others reading between the
lines and assuming philosophical positions. Is this not a subtle form
of censorship, discouraging people from doing so in the future?

I have personally never used an Internet filter so, my understanding of
how they work, or more specifically how they don't work, has been
garnered from the literature and from other people's experiences. We
have one public access terminal for the Internet that we reserve for our
young patrons. We do not and never have had any filters on this machine
because of their assault on our patrons' right to uncensored
information.

We are in perhaps an unusual situation in that we have placed our public
access terminal within about 3 steps of our desk and can always see what
sites are being accessed. Having said all of this, however, we have
NEVER--NOT ONCE--had anyone access a site that I would think anyone
would consider objectionable. We are very careful to encourage kids to
explore the Internet via the sites we have bookmarked, and if they are
looking for specific information, we lead them to it the best we can.

If I could leave you with any thought here it would be to never assume
that you know about any situation from a few lines of e-mail. Instead,
perhaps a polite inquiry behind the scenes would generate some
additional, and useful, discussion.

DJ. Lilly
Children's Librarian
Rosenberg Library
Galveston, Texas

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:24:02 1997
From: Catherine.Balkin@harpercollins.com (Catherine Balkin)
ubject: More information on author appearances


Due to my previous message, I have received a great number of requests
for the HarperCollins list of authors and artists available for
appearances, and nearly everyone wants me to include information on
honorariums. So that I don't have to send the same email over and
over again, I am writing to explain why authors do NOT publish
information about their honorariums, at least not very often. The
reason is pretty simple -- honorariums are not set in stone.

Many, many authors are negotiable. And the reasons honorariums are
negotiable are varied. Maybe the author has family living in your
area, and wants to visit. Maybe the author wants to do research in
your area for an upcoming book. Maybe you live in or near some
fabulous place, and the author is interested in sightseeing or
vacationing in your area. Sometimes authors who need money are quite
willing to agree to lesser honorariums in order to get the appearance.
Then there's the other side of the coin: authors who don't want to do
as many school visits anymore will often raise their honorariums in
order to curb requests (but then lower them in order to visit
relatives in your area) -- these and other factors can and do affect
fees. It's quite true that many authors and artists will not do an
appearance for under a set dollar amount. But this isn't true of
everybody.

I'm going on at length about this, because I know some people have to
report back to principals or committees, and I hope you'll be able to
use the information above in your presentations. If anyone else would
like a list of our authors who are available for appearances, do
please feel free to contact me. But please keep in mind that,
although extensive information is provided with the list about author
appearance arrangements, honorariums are not listed.

My thanks to everyone for their interest.

Catherine Balkin
Library Promotion
HarperCollins Children's Books
catherine.balkin@harpercollins.com

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:24:13 1997
From: Janice Del Negro <delnegro@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: children's librarians



The University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana GSLIS is blessed with the
presence (and stellar teaching ability) of two remarkable women: Betsy
Hearne and Christine Jenkins, both of whom bring an astonishing array of
expertise and enthusiasm to children's and young adult literature
and services classes.

It is also (pardon my horn blowing) the home of The Center for Children's
Books and The Bulletin of the Center for Children's Books. We have several
graduate assistant positions, and serve as a practicum site for interested
students.

Not too shabby...

Janice Del Negro
BCCB

Cynthia Stilley wrote:
>
> Here's a question? Which (if any) library schools emphasize children's
> librarianship and turn out first-rate children's librarians?Re:
children's librarians

Cynthia Stilley wrote:
>
> Here's a question? Which (if any) library schools emphasize children's
> librarianship and turn out first-rate children's librarians?Re:
children's librarians



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:25:20 1997
From: Wally Bubelis <wallyb@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Internet filters


On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Smith wrote:

> 2)Is it really "censorship" not to want graphic pictures of grown men
> having sex with children on a computer monitor visible to anyone who walks
> by? I understand that some of the sites out there make Playboy look like
> suitable material for a preschool classroom. I do not seek out such
> things and do not want to be exposed to them as I go about my work.
This scenario is illegal in the United States, and is not protected by the
First Amendment. Anyone caught uploading or downloading this sort of
material is breaking the law and can be ejected from the library,
arrested, prosecuted, etc.

>
> 3)This is not a black and white issue. It is gray and fuzzy and there is
> no clear right or wrong position. Please, let us discuss it with respect
> and consideration for each other as professionals.
It is mostly gray and fuzzy; however, child pornography has been defined
in US law as being illegal, no matter what medium it appears in. Playboy
is gray and fuzzy, definitely. Let's not get swept up in the media hype
that ignores this reality.


wally bubelis
Seattle Public Library
"The universe is made of stories, not atoms." --Muriel Rukeyeser


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:25:36 1997
From: Graham <grahamka@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Arthur programs; Chinese New Year party


Dear Pubyacers, Yhanks to all who sent such great
ideas for both programs. Said I'd post all, so here goes:Chinese New
Year: 1. fold red envelope & put in foil-covered chocolate coin; 2.
Chowmein noodles covered w/melted chocolat or butterscotch chips; 3.
Martial arts expert; 4. bowls of oranges & apples to eat (the colors of
Ch. New Yr.); 4. heads of cabbage hanging from strings on sticks, used to
feed & pacify dragons; 5. Chinese folktales; 6. dragon mask w/rolled &
fringed tissue paper taped behid eyes, nostrils, mouth;6. local
children's Chinese dance troop; 7.hard candies wrapped in paper to be
picked up w/chopsticks; 8. shrimp chips eaten w/chopsticks;9. Chinese
calligraphy; 10. chow mein noodles dipped in duck sauce;
Arthur: 1.Arthur masks purchased from Demco given to 7 children, play
"Will the Real Arthur Please Stand Up"-each reads a statement, only 1 is
true, rest guess which is correct; 2. "Arthur Charades": act out Arthur
title; 3. "Hot Arthur": hot potato w/Arthur doll;4. Copycat Nov/Dec '94:
many good ideas; 5. Arthur website: www.pbs.org; 6."Arthur trivia";7.
American School Publishers: video: Meet the Author: Marc Brown
(tells how to draw Arthur, suggests writing your own Arthur adventures,
finding Brown's childrens names hidden in recent book illustrations (I've
gone crazy trying to find these!) ); 7. toss game: throw bones into Pal's
mouth; 8. "send a postcard to Arthur: decorate postcards w/ Arthur ink
stamps; 9. guess the # of chickenpox spots on Arthur; 10. coloring sheets
(from Arthur web), 11. Arthur glasses; 12. Arthur paper bag puppets, 13.
"pin the bow tie on Arthur"; 14. tic tack throw game:x's Arthur, o's D.W.;
THanks again to all of you who responded. There is a wealth of wonderful
ideas for these programs!
Kathy

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Kathy Graham 2226 S. 16th Ave.
Youth Services Broadview, Il 60153
Broadview Public Library 1-708-345-1325
grahamka@sls.lib.il.us FAX 1-708-345-0302


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:26:33 1997
From: "Hudson, Sarah" <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>
Subject: Training adult staff to work with children/Children's staff to do

Hello,

I am an Information Specialist at a regional branch which has one information
desk to serve children and adults. The adult staff must work with children,
and the children's staff must work with adults.

Children's Services includes much more than story hour and programming.
Its funny to me how people always forget that it also includes reference and
readers' advisory.

If you are hiring new staff, you must explain to them what the work day will
be like, and what expectations you have for them on the desk. The person
must be flexible and willing to learn. they will not work in a vacuum of
reference or youth services.

Training is the key on both sides of the spectrum.

I started off in library work at a small branch that had one desk for circulation
and reference and children's services. I have a long background in serving
users of all ages. I have always been a reader, and I still like to read good
children's books. I may be the exception rather than the norm among Information Specialists. There is still plenty that I don't know.
Even when I worked at the Reference Department in a small city library, I
did a lot of Children's Reference.

Our children's staff consists of 1 MLS manager and 3 paraprofessional
assistants. In addition to traditional children's programming, they must also
work the information desk. This includes answering reference questions
of all types and computer troubleshooting.

Children's staff must be trained in using adult and children's reference sources.
If they don't get the training and desk time to actually utilize the resources, then they cannot be effective on the desk. It is intimidating to be sure to work
on an Information Desk, but I think the only way to improve is to actually do it.
Schedule the Children's Specialists on the desk and have them answer
questions. Everyone can learn something from someone else.

No one can know everything, even within a single department, such as Children's or Information. You have to have a basic knowledge. All of our
Adult Information Specialists are to choose a children's author and read
several of their books. I guess if we actually got time off the reference
desk, we might be able to do that.

I personally feel alot of tug of war at our one service point. Everyone feels
like they don't get enough time off the desk to work on their other projects.
Adult reference includes: programming, although not weekly, weeding, bibliographies, readers' advisory, and collection development. You must
have an idea what the other departments' activities are in order to gain
an understanding. Otherwise, you can build up animosity and tension between
the specialists in each area.

I think the big problem is staffing. There is never enough staff, but that's
probably a topic for another day.

Thanks for reading,

Sarah

Sarah Hudson
Information Specialist
Independence Regional Library
Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County
shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us

Opinions are my own, and do not reflect those of the Library




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:27:30 1997
From: Jill Patterson <jpatterson@lightside.com>
ubject: Re: IF and youth


Our library installed public Internet access almost a year ago. Before we
did, we met as a committee to create an AUP to recommend to our Board of
Trustees. At that time, I was completely against the idea of any kind of
filtering--but my full-time reference librarian was not. We were, in fact,
at polar opposites. As it turned out, our Board mandated the use of
filters, so we began testing them and seeing how they worked. I became
involved with Karen Schneider's TIFAP, which involved testing about a dozen
different filters including the one our library ended up buying
(CyberPatrol). I also attended and spoke at a couple of workshops on
Internet filtering and listening to lawyers explain the legal opinions on
filters, obscenity, and child pornography.

This is a long-winded way of explaining that I have since changed my stance.
The current issue of American Libraries contains an excellent article by
Karen Hyman. She points out that libraries never have bought "adult" movies
or books (you know, the kind that are only sold in stores that you have to
be over 21 to enter). Why not? We can use the excuse about money and shelf
space, but the truth is, we wouldn't buy them anyway. So why allow it in
our library on the Internet if there is a way to avoid it? After using
CyberPatrol for almost a year on "light" settings, I have had only one
legitimate site blocked (and since the URL is given, we could over ride the
block). We have never had a patron complain that they couldn't find the
information they wanted because it was blocked. No filter is perfect, and
of course there is the possibility that some obscene (obscene in the legal
sense) site will come through.

The Internet is the first real testing ground for how far we are willing to
go in the name of intellectual freedom. I still have lots of questions. I
am interested in hearing what my fellow member, Fran Jones of the California
State Law Library, of the California Library Assn.'s Intellectual Freedom
Committee will say at our Monday workshop on Internet Filters during this
weekend's annual convention. If there is interest, I'll be happy to post
the results.
Jill Patterson JPatterson@lightside.com
Glendora Public Library 140 S. Glendora Ave. Glendora, CA 91741
Tel: 626/852-4896 FAX: 626/852-4899


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:34:31 1997
From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ornament ideas



A very simple Hanukkah craft is to make Jewish stars out of popsicle
sticks. With six popsicle sticks, glitter, felt, glue, paper, etc. you
can make very attractive and easy to hang stars. Another posibility
would be simple menorahs from (again) popsicle sticks and pipe cleaners
-- or just from pipe cleaners --. You glue half of one stick to a whole
stick (T shaped) and use pieces of pipe cleaner to make the candles.

Good luck with your program!

Lisa

Lisa Prolman
Assistant Children's Librarian
Greenfield Public Library
Greenfield, MA
(413)772-1590
lprolman@hotmail.com

"Nothing is impossible to anyone impervious to reason."


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:34:39 1997
From: Holly Willett <willett@rowan.edu>
ubject: Re: ornament ideas


I had a similar tree, but quite small, that I used with my 5th & 6th
graders at the school library in Dallas where I worked before coming to New
Jersey. I actually used it to reinforce reference skills because i put a
question on each ornament that had to do with one of the 3 holidays.
Students were given small prizes--a sticker or piece of candy would do--for
finding correct answers, and they seemed to find it interesting just to
find the answers. THere's a little learning there along with the fun.

Have you thought about playing music for the different holidays while you
decorate? Playing the dreidl game?

Holly



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:34:41 1997
From: mchelton@cadvantage.com (marykchelton)
ubject: Fairfax County, Virginia


>Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:18:46 -0500
>Reply-To: RNEWLEN@crs.loc.gov
>Sender: owner-alacoun@ala1.ala.org
>From: Robert Newlen <RNEWLEN@crs.loc.gov>
>To: ALA Council List <alacoun@ala1.ala.org>
>Subject: Fairfax County, Virginia
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Status:
>
>FYI - This from the Washington Post, 11/13, page D8:
>FAIRFAX LIBRARY PANEL REJECTS INTERNET LIMITS
>"Fairfax County library officials have rejected a plan that would have allowed
>parents to prohibit their preteen children from surfing the Internet on
>computers, a compromise proposal aimed at preventing them from viewing
>sexually explicit material. This action comes as Loudoun County is preparing
>to install screening software within a week that will make obscene material
>inaccessible to its library patrons . . . Karen Jo Gounaud, who heads Family
>Friendly Libraries . . . called the board's vote 'totally irresponsible.'"
>

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Mary K. Chelton, MLS, PhD
Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Management
Emporia State University
1200 Commercial
Emporia, KS 66801
phone: (316) 341-5071 work
(316)342-9277 home
fax: (316) 342-6391 home
e-mail: mchelton@cadvantage.com





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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:35:09 1997
From: "Bette Ammon" <bammon@mtlib.org>
Subject: Re: IF and youth


Please say it ain't so! From my perspective Internet filters are NOT
a foregone conclusion and I hope that this isn't the pervasive
thinking. I just last week heard Judith Krug speak at the Wisconsin
LIbrary Association conference in Milwaukee and while she talked
about ALA's lists of great kid sites and advised teaching kids how to
use the Internet safely and effectively.....nowhere did I hear her
tell us to start your filtering engines now.

Missoula Montana is a relatively small city (big by Montana
standards, though) with a fairly diverse population. We've been
offering Internet access for nearly a year and little
trouble with filtering advocacy. That idea of personal responsibility
is alive and well here and the parents who have expressed concern
about unlimited access have been quick to understand their own
responsibilities as well.

Bette Ammon, director
Missoula Public Library

Bette Ammon http://www.ism.net/~mslaplib/
Missoula Public Library 406.721.2005
301 E Main fax 406.728.5900
Missoula MT 59802 bammon@mtlib.org

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:36:49 1997
From: tnorstro@lexecon.com
Subject: Library Course Question






I will be receiving my masters May, and I have to choose between two
classes for the Spring semester.
I don't know which will be more relevant, and make me more marketable for a
position as a children's librarian.

1. LIBRARY AND LITERACY INVOLVEMENT
An overview of library involvement in literacy programming in local
communities. Emphasis will be placed on examining community needs for
literacy services, developing and implementing library literacy services to
meet those needs, and building partnerships and networks with literacy
providers and other community groups.

2. PUBLIC LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION
An introduction to the public library. Emphasis is on the history and
theory of public library service and on library law and finance. Special
problems such as censorship and the evaluation of public library service
are also considered.

The courses ADMINISTRATION and LIBRARY MATERIALS FOR CHILDREN both had a
slight focus on public libraries.

I do not have public library experience, and will be an entry level
candidate for children librarian positions. Interviewers will want to know
what courses I took that relate to public libraries and children, and I
just don't know which is better.

Thank you for your time and feedback,


Terri Norstrom
norstrom@lexecon.com




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:37:18 1997
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Subject: e-mail




Why do many libraries disallow e-mail access? Seems as if it could help a
lot of people. Around here (Cleveland) you can sign onto Cleveland
Free-Net for free, and you could use the library's computers for checking
your mail, but for some reason, that's not entirely approved of.

Bonita

--
Bonita Kale
bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:37:28 1997
From: "Deborah Moore" <dlmoore@csn.net>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #118


A belated thank you to all who responded for my query re: picture books and
YAs.
The info is abundant and useful.

Deborah Moore
IMC Coordinator and Media Specialist
Adams County School District 14
4451 E. 72nd Ave.
Commerce City, CO 80022
(303) 853-5419
fax (303) 288-5036
dlmoore@csn.org



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:37:54 1997
From: suzette@mtlib.org
Subject: Re: ornament ideas


Hi! There's a great Star of David made with popsicle sticks that I
made with my third graders one year. I will send you the directions
if you would like. Also, a dreidel is easy to make (as well as play), I have the
pattern for that as well. And I used Patricia Polacco's Uncle Vova's
Tree as a Christmas Read-Aloud and we made stars with streamers (a
Jewish Russian tradition). Thanks for the great idea! It would be a
very fun activity for our children's department.


Suzette Dussault
Young Adult/Community Services Librarian
Missoula Public Library
Missoula Montana

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:38:11 1997
From: Trudy Terry <tterry@sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us>
Subject: internet filtered


We just got graphic internet last week. We have no screens, two
terminals are filtered two aren't . The most interesting thing has been
the man who brings his own 30 gallon garbage bag and puts himself and the
monitor under the bag. Most of our patrons don't know how to use
computers so they are a little hesitant about the net but the sack man
has given the whole town a new topic of conversation. We have no
restrictions on who uses what terminal. Two are at tables children can
reach and two are stand up terminals. Since our terminals are placed so
everyone can see what is on your screen most of the teenagers are looking
at car sites. The sack man is about 30.
One thing that concerns me is the idea people have that what they find on
the internet is accurate. Because it is easier to hit print than to pick
up a journal, and copy it I have YA doing reports straight off the net.
They don't care that the information they have is inaccurate or not. I'd
like them to take advantage of all the information available here. Trudy
Terry Port Arthur Texas

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:38:27 1997
From: "COX" <COX@slais.ubc.ca>
Subject: Help with Cassette-book Collections


Greetings!

I am a second-year library school student at the University of
British Columbia in Vancouver. I have lurked on the list previous;y,
but this is my first posting. I have been very impressed with your
knowledge and helpfulness in the past, and thought I might pick your
brains for a current project if you are willing.

I am writing a paper about audio books for my Children's Services
class. I am looking at three categories of items: novels on tape,
literacy, and English as a second language items. I am finding some
material, but would appreciate any insight or suggestions on reputable
distributors, selection criteria (either for materials themselves or
distributors), and sources of Canadian or alternative material.

Thanks for your kind assistance,

Julia Cox

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:47:23 1997
From: Carolyn Fain <cfain@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: STUMPER - holiday books


Hi! I have a patron looking for two books she found in a public library
approximately 8 or 9 years ago. The first one is a nonfiction title about
various holidays. She is sure that the title is "Special Day
Celebrations" but it is NOT by Elizabeth McKinnon, which we own. The book
lists the history of many holidays, dates, etc., but does not contain any
craft, activity or recipe ideas.

The same patron is looking for a Christmas book - Santa can change his
size in order to fit into keyholes, etc. She said it was somewhat
mystical.

Hope these books ring a bell with someone out there. Thanks in advance
for all of your help!

Carolyn Fain
Children's Services Librarian
Fountaindale Public Library
Bolingbrook, IL


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:48:02 1997
From: "Marin Younker" <marin.ci.tigard.or.us>
Subject: STUMPER: Children of Timpetil


thought i'd try the collective wisdom of pubyac readers! a patron is
looking for a book he read as a ten year-old in germany (27 years
ago). he thinks the title is "the children of timpetil" or "die
kinder von timpetil," in german. he is not sure if it was a
translation or if it was indeed written by a german author. a vague
story premise: the children of the village are left to fend for
themselves after the adults take off, for some reason or another.
the children then have to learn to survive, organize, find food, etc.
after learning the lessons of life, the adults return to the
village. that's about all the info i have. any help would be
greatly appreciated. tia. marin younker.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
J. Marin Younker
Youth Services Librarian
Tigard Public Library

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:48:08 1997
From: Karen Vollmer <Vollmer@addison.lib.il.us>
Subject: Job opening


November 13, 1997
From: H. Kowalczykaddison.lib.il.us

The following position is available at our library:

Part Time Youth Services Associate

As part of the Youth Services' team the Associate participates in
Reference, Readers' Advisory, and programming. Requires B.S. degree
and good communication skills. Knowledge of child development,
audiovisual materials, children's literature, and basic computer skills
desirable. Beginning salary $12.42 per hour. 17 hrs. /wk. including
daytime, evening, and weekend hours. Contact Helen Kowalczyk, Addison
Public Library, 235 N. Kennedy Drive, Addison, Illinois 60101 at (630)
543-3617.



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:48:22 1997
From: Esther Murphy <emurphy@ala.org>
Subject: YALSA Announces New Electronic List for Book Discussion


. PRESS RELEASE


For Immediate Release Contact: Linda Waddle
1-800-545-2433
lwaddle@ala.org

YALSA Announces New Electronic List for Book Discussion

Effective immediately, the Young Adult Library Services Association
(YALSA) announces the availability of an electronic list called
YALSA-BK. The purpose of the list is to provide a mechanism for
subscribers to discuss books online. Subscribers are invited to discuss
specific titles, as well as other issues concerning young adult reading
and young adult literature.

It is also an opportunity for subscribers to learn what has been
nominated for Best Books for Young Adults, Popular Paperbacks for
Young Adults, Quick Picks for Reluctant Young Adult Readers, and to
discuss the books that have been nominated. Cumulative lists of
nominations for each of these annual lists will be posted by each of the
committees. YALSA-BK will give subscribers the same opportunity as
observers who attend ALA conferences and meetings to voice their
opinions about nominated books. From time to time, nominations for other
YALSA lists may also be posted.

In order to provide more opportunities for youth participation in YALSA
activities, young adults are especially welcome to subscribe and to
discuss books they are reading, especially those teens who belong to
book discussion groups.

The discussion list will be unmoderated and self-subscribing.
Undeliverable addresses will be automatically deleted.

To subscribe:

Send an e-mail message to listproc@ala1.ALA.org with the following
command as the first line of text in the body of the message:

subscribe yalsa-bk first name last name

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:47:44 1997
From: cindio@bedford.lib.nh.us
Subject: Celebrating Differences/MLK Day books


I have a patron looking for books to share with a group of 4
year olds for Martin Luther King Day. She is looking for books
that show how people who are different can get along. She
wants to read books to the kids that celebrating our uniqueness
and differences. She is not looking for MLK bios. We have
checked A to Zoo and are examining the titles found under
character traits--being different. So far we've come up with
Elizabeth and Larry by Marilyn Sadler, The Ugly Ducking by
Anderson and The Mixed Up Chameleon by Eric Carle. Any other
ideas? TIA
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Cindi Ellen O'Connor
Director of Children's Services
Bedford (NH) Public Library
3 Meetinghouse Road
Bedford, NH 03110
603-472-2300, FAX 603-472-2978
E-mail: cindio@bedford.lib.nh.us
Homepage: http://www.bedford.lib.nh.us
Date: 11/13/97 Time: 11:36:39
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Nov 13 21:59:50 1997
From: Dzierzbicki <dzierzbi@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: re: stumper; black death (fwd)



While I have a minute in-between programs I'd like to thank
those of you who have been responsing to my "sociology" posting. You've
all been very helpful. I'm still a little puzzled with the "one
word---Encarta!" posting, (pro or con to the future of librar[y][ians]
issue?) but, all time and effort is very much appreciated.
I also want to say thank you and SORRY to the person who let me know that I
(twice) wrote "MLA" instead of MLS. I beg your forgiveness. I have no
excuse :-)
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"But wherever they go , and whatever happens to them on the way, in that
enchanted place on the top of the Forest, a little boy and his bear
will always be playing." A.A. Milne

Monica A. Dzierzbicki dzierzbi@sublibsy.sls.lib.il.us
Children's Librarian (708)448-1530
Palos Park Library
Palos Park, Il
(formerly from Grande Prairie Lib., IL)



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