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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 00:06:41 1998
From: "Marjorie Karp" <karp@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: BIB: Open Mindedness
Hi Pubyacers: I recently posted a question about picture/youth
fiction books revolving around open mindedness. Many of you asked me
to post the responses--so here goes. Not in any kind of order, just
as received. Hope this will be of help to some of you and/or give you
a few to reevaluate.
Green eggs and ham by Dr. Seuss
Bread and jam for Frances by Russell Hoban
Cat running by Zilpha Keatley Snyder
Forgotten door by Alexander Key
Keeper of the isis light by Monica Hughes
Mildred Taylor books
Lizard sees the world by Susan Tews
Weird parents by Audrey Wood
Monster mama by Liz Rosenberg
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Big orange splot by Daniel Pinkwater
Araboolies of Liberty Street by Sam Swope
Hop Jump by Ellen Walsh
Thank you again for your quick and very helpful responses. Margi Karp
Opperer
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 00:19:49 1998
From: Guarria <cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: re: Girl Molested after library chat
I came across something written by a 16-year-old girl (In _One Teenager in
Ten: Writings by Gay and Lesbian Youth_, p.60) which rather
explicitly recounts her sexual relationship with her dance
teacher--beginning when she was 12 (!!), the teacher 23. Disturbing? The
girl, by the way, very positively credits her teacher with making her a
"lesbian and a woman" the first time they were together. Just found it
interesting considering all the discussion about sexual assault and
consensual sex and thought I'd pass it along.
Carrie
cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:13:36 1998
From: aparadise@juno.com
Subject: Re: Adult SRP
WE technically include adults, but there is no system of rewards set up,
or a booklist as several have requested. We seem to get 2 or 3 per
branch each year. Any suggestions as to how to coordinate with adult
services would be useful!
Anne
Andy or Anne Paradise aparadise@juno.com
Gary Public Library andrew@gary.lib.in.us
Gary IN
anne@gary.lib.in.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:13:36 1998
From: aparadise@juno.com
Subject: Re: CD-ROM check-outs
We have a lot of Living Books- purchased last year for in-house use.
They are excellent.
Anne
Andy or Anne Paradise aparadise@juno.com
Gary Public Library andrew@gary.lib.in.us
Gary IN
anne@gary.lib.in.us
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Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:14:41 1998
From: PIKLY <PIKLY@aol.com>
Subject: Re: An interesting paragraph
Regarding Dr. Ruth Gordon's note on the news story of a librarian breaking up
a fight at a school:
It is my experience that some teachers are not very sensitive about fighting,
perhaps because they are so used to their pupils and just see it as semi-
sibling rivalry. During a class visit last fall, I stopped the tour of the
library TWICE because boys were shoving girls out of their way. The teacher
didn't think it was a big deal, but I sent the boys with one of the parents to
wait outside until the rest of us were finished. Other things like this have
happened in the past. Maybe teachers are hesitant to stop physical pushing,
fighting, etc. between students because there are too many lawsuits, but I
think a teacher or principal invites a lawsuit by not stopping fights.
Just my 2 cents,
Penny Peck, San Leandro Public
Pikly@aol.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:15:21 1998
From: Filtering Facts/David Burt <burt@northwest.com>
ubject: Re: Chat rooms
Chuck Schacht wrote:
>Amen! One suspects that a wiser man than Mr. Burt would not harm his
>own cause by so clearly destroying his own credibility. The next time
>he raises some sort of similar alarm he could be be absolutely correct
>in terms of his facts but the assumption will now be that he is almost
>as reliable as a $2 pistol because of the way he slanted this
>recounting. It's hard to work up Major amounts of sympathy for a "young
>adult" who misrepresents her age in order to persuade an adult to
become
>involved with her, if this is indeed the more accurate version of the
>event.
>
Chuck,
Did you leave your e-mail on and let someone else use it?
Did you really say what I think you said, that it's hard to work up much
sympathy for a 14 year old who gets molested by an adult?
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David Burt, President, Filtering Facts
Website: http://www.filteringfacts.org
E-Mail: David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
Phone/Fax: 503 635-7048
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:15:34 1998
From: "Alison Hendon" <ahendon@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: new name for children's dept.
How about "Youth Services"?
Alison
Brooklyn Public Library
> At 01:00 PM 5/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Our children's department just moved into a newly enlarged department
> >which includes children's, young adult and parents. we're trying to
come
> >up with a name for the department which will include all these groups.
any
> >ideas from others in the same situation? thanks so much.
>
Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org
"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:15:53 1998
From: "Leslie" <llangley@osu-extention.lctc.poteau.ok.us>
Subject: Re: CD-ROM check-outs
Pardon my library ignorance but what is 'double shelving'?
Leslie Langley
Children's Librarian
Buckley Public Library
Poteau, OK (yes, there is such a place)
"I cannot live without books......." T. Jefferson
-----Original Message-----
From: Laurel Sharp <lsharp@mailbox.lpl.org>
To: pubyac@nysernet.org <pubyac@nysernet.org>
Date: Thursday, May 07, 1998 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: CD-ROM check-outs
>Liverpool Public Library has circulated CDRoms since about 1994. We also
>have reference computers with games for preschoolers and primary grade
>children. We double-shelve anything that costs over $50. Our damage rate
>is low; the theft rate is (I think) about what it is for other formats. I
>especially like the Living Books from Broderbund but heard that they may
>not be selling to libraries any more. I'll look into it.
>Laurel Sharp
>Liverpool, NY
>
>
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:16:17 1998
From: LaMorte <tlamorte@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #293
To Lisa,
I am faxing you a copy of our "unattented child policy." It was
formulated after many incidents of children left alone. It still happens,
but now when we see the parent, we have some backing. Good luck!
P.s. We keep it posted in several conspicious locationa and parents are
given a copy when they sign for their children's library cards.
Sincerely,
Teresa La Morte
Children's Librarian
Deer Park Public Library
Deer Park, NY
tlamorte@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:16:30 1998
From: Ann Randolph <sct001@mail.connect.more.net>
ubject: CD-Rom Thanks and another ?
Thank-you to all who have responded to my question about circulating CD's.
All who sent me posts have said they circulate the CD's. I will post a
summary if there is an interest. I will be taking all the responses to my
director later today. However, no one has said why they DO NOT circulate
CD's. Has anyone considered this and decided against circualting CD's?
Another concern I had was copyright regulations. Some CD's have an install
program when you load the program where it leaves an icon on the hard drive.
Others install the whole program on the hard drive, so even if the patron
returns the CD to the library they still have the program on their computer.
I realize this is just a few programs, but I worry about the copyright
regulations in this area. Again, thanks to all who responded, I will be
sending private e-mail to thank everyone, but I just wanted to give a public
thanks.
Ann
sct001@mail.connect.more.net
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Ann
Youth Services Coordinator
Cape Girardeau Public Library
711 N. Clark
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
(573) 334-5279
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:16:57 1998
From: Jill Patterson <jpatterson@ci.glendora.ca.us>
ubject: Re: CD-ROM check-outs
We've been circulating CD-ROMs for several years. When they are returned,
the CDs are placed in plastic "lock boxes" before being put on the
shelves.
We remove the lock box at check out. We also use these lock boxes on our
music CDs because we were experiencing a high rate of theft. I don't have
stats handy, but our theft rate has gone down.
*** NOTE NEW EMAIL ADDRESS ***
Jill Patterson jpatterson@ci.glendora.ca.us
Glendora Public Library 140 S. Glendora Ave. Glendora, CA 91741
Tel: 626/852-4896 FAX: 626/852-4899
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:17:07 1998
From: cindio@bedford.lib.nh.us
Subject: Roomate needed for ALA
We need to find one other person for our room for three at the
Washington Hilton. The cost for the room is $198/night plus
the 13% tax, but if you divide it three ways it sounds
reasonable. We have the room for Fri, Sat and Sun night. If you
check your April American Libraries, a fair number of meetings
are held there too. Our third person couldn't come to ALA and
now we need one more!
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Cindi Ellen O'Connor
Director of Children's Services
Bedford (NH) Public Library
3 Meetinghouse Road, Bedford, NH 03110
603-472-2300, FAX 603-472-2978, Email:cindio@bedford.lib.nh.us
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"While the storyteller speaks, a door within the fire creaks
and suddenly flies open." -R.Hunter
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:22:24 1998
From: "Jerilyn R. Schmidt -- Rochester Schools" <JERILYN@selco.lib.mn.us>
Subject: DRA KIDS
DRA KIDS.
Would anyone mind e-mailing me some feedback on DRA
Kids? I need to have the PROS & CONS.
I truly "appreciate" any knowledge you can share.
Jerilyn Schmidt
e-mail address: Jerilyn@selco.lib.mn.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:24:15 1998
From: Sue Ridnour <sridnour@metro.lib.ci.carrollton.tx.us>
Subject: Re: Chat rooms
> recounting. It's hard to work up Major amounts of sympathy for a
"young
> adult" who misrepresents her age in order to persuade an adult to
become
> involved with her, if this is indeed the more accurate version of the
> event.
>
> Chuck Schacht
> Romeo District Library
> Romeo, MI.
>
But 14-year-olds (many, not all) have notoriously bad judgment. That's
why we don't let them vote, drive or drink (legally.) Our job as the
responsible adults is to let them test their wings while at the same time
protecting them from doing serious harm to themselves. I don't think
there are any easy answers on how to do that in regards to chat rooms in
public libraries, but I have found this dialogue very interesting.
Sue Ridnour
Youth Services Librarian
Carrollton Libraries, Frankford Village Branch
Carrollton, TX
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:24:38 1998
From: "Sparks Branch, Washoe County Library" <sparks@powernet.net>
ubject: Teen Computer use
In this months Book Links, there is an article on computer usage. In it
they say
that boys clamor to get at the machine...they like to play games..hooked on
the fast response and manic action....girls have to be enticed and are
drawn to access e-mail and other communication software. I know at home we
are split in
our usage of the computer by gender exactly this way! Granted, we all surf
for general information.
Please rethink blocking access to interactive communication. The behavior
may be
rude and awful--but address this. Don't make communication out to be a bad
thing!
Rosie Beck
Sparks Library
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Sparks Branch sparks@washoe.lib.nv.us
Washoe County Library
1125 - 12th St. (702) 352-3200
Sparks, NV 89431 fax: (702) 352-3207
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 20:24:49 1998
From: "Sparks Branch, Washoe County Library" <sparks@powernet.net>
ubject: E mail and Chat Rooms
We are introducing public internet stations to our system and I'm sure
there will be some problems with e mail and chat rooms. However an article
in the May, 1998, Book Links entitled Girl Power: Multimedia and More made
me stop and think.
Loosely quoting the author, Virginia A. Walter, it is noted that "boys
clamor to get at the machines; girls need to be enticed... games..are the
biggest attraction for boys ( the fast response and manic action)...while
access to e- mail and other communication software enables girls to do what
they like best.
In education and psychology the tendency for boys to be more physically
oriented,
and the girls more communication oriented is repeatedly pointed out.
Frankly, at my home-with grownups and a teen boy-this is most definitely
the case. My bookmarks are with newsgroups and listservs; the guys have
what I call games of
massive destruction they play. Granted, we all surf for information.
There's no question that some teen/children's behavior will get noisy, rude
and
out of line if they are using chat rooms. But, I think it's the
behavior-not the fact that they are using the network to communicate-that
needs to be addressed. If we make communication out to be an undesirable
thing what kind
of message are we sending them?
Thanks
Rosie Beck
Sparks Library
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Sparks Branch sparks@washoe.lib.nv.us
Washoe County Library
1125 - 12th St. (702) 352-3200
Sparks, NV 89431 fax: (702) 352-3207
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 23:08:21 1998
From: Michelle DiGiacomo <mdigiacomo@ci.sat.tx.us>
Subject: Need Shel Silverstein's complete birthdate
We had a patron last night that needed Shel Silverstein's complete
birthdate. We've checked Something about the author, Contemporary
authors, and internet sites and found only the year, 1932.
If anyone knows his complete birthdate, please send it to me at
MDiGiacomo@x1.ci.sat.tx.us
Thanks,
Michelle Di Giacomo
Children's Librarian
Cortez Branch Library
San Antonio, Tx
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 23:08:26 1998
From: Bromann <bromannj@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Realistic Fiction
I can't find instructions on how to search the archives and this may have
been discussed before, but I need examples of realistic fiction for
grades 4th-6th for a book list. Thanks.
Jennifer Bromann
Head of Youth Services
Prairie Trails Public Library
8449 S. Moody
Burbank, IL
bromannj@sls.lib.il.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 23:08:23 1998
From: SCHAFFNERP@aadl.annarbor.lib.mi.us
Subject: the reading girl
I'd also like to put in a word for the Swallows and Amazons series by
Arthur Ransome, the Betsy-Tacy books by Maud Hart Lovelace, the Farm
series by Anne Pellowski, the Golden Name Day and others by Jennie
Lindquist, Spyri's Heidi, but also Cornelli and Uncle Titus in the Country,
Frances Browne's Granny's Wonderful Chair, and the Virginia Haviland
Favorite Fairy Tales from. . . series--all things to be enjoyed by young
excellent readers (and good readalouds for kids who can't do them alone--
or for kids who can, but of course should be read to anyway. . .)
Paula Schaffner, Ann Arbor District Library, MI
schaffnerp@aadl.annarbor.lib.mi.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 7 23:20:08 1998
From: Elise DeGuiseppi <elised@pcl1.pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: "Caleb" stumper solved
Thanks to all who responded to this request. _Caleb and Me_ by Franklyn
E. Meyer appears to be the correct title, and we have ILLed it for our
patron.
Elise
elised@pcl.lib.wa.us
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