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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:51:58 1998
From: "Lynn S. Cockett" <cockett@scils.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: attracting teens/Bedford PL
Hello All,
I find this discussion about Mary K's post disturbing -- not because I like Mary
K.-- she is big enough to defend herself -- but because eveyone's interpretation
of her comments as rude have taken away from one really important issue that she
raised.
Regardless of where the original poster of the message about attracting teens
gets his information, one thing that everyone needs to think about when doing a
huge YA campaign is: "What the heck do we do when they come?"
Mary K is right to caution -- of course, I would assume that all of us on this
list are truly interested in finding ways to get teens into the library.
However, if you are a YA department of one (yourself) no matter how successful
you are at getting kids into the library, you will be unsuccessful with your
staff unless you have their support on the project from the outset.
It is very difficult to be the only person in the library who wants kids there.
So, while I would NEVER say that we shouldn't be trying to get kids into the
library, we SHOULD educate and prepare our colleagues for the response. Kids do
respond when they are asked to come to the library, and when libraries provide
excellent resources, but when the kids get there, if the whole staff doesn't
share that excellent service attitude that we have, it can be disastrous -- to
the librarian personally, and to the teens in the long run.
So, regardless of Mary K's intent, or anyone else's interpretation of that
intent, I would say that she does raise a very important issue, and invite
further discussion on this one.
Lynn Cockett
PhD Student
Rutgers University
Ana Bartlett wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 1998, Mary K Chelton wrote:
>
> > Wilson Thomas posted:
> >
> > >Hello, I'm doing promotianal work for the young adult section at
the
> > >Bedford Public Library
> > >and am looking for ideas on attracting teens. I am putting
together a
> > >survey and I would
> > >appreciate any ideas for questions. Also I wouldn't mind input on
how to
> > >attract teens.
> > >thanks.
> >
> > Wilson, could you tell us whether you are a librarian or not? You
sound
> > unfamiliar with the extensive literature that exists on this topic.
For
> > example, the two Excellence in YA Services books from ALA, the annual
John
> > Cotton Dana Award winners, and just about every issue of VOYA will
give you
> > ideas on this topic. What worries me, though, is that Bedford thinks
this
> > is just a PR problem. If you are successful in attracting them in the
short
> > term, what is Bedord prepared to do in the long term, and is ALL OF
THEIR
> > STAFF ready for an influx of teenagers?
> >
> > Mary K.
> >
> > Mary K. Chelton, PhD (+ 25 years library experience) New address:
9/1/98
> > School of Library and Information Management Graduate School of
> > Library &
> > Emporia State University Information Studies
> > 1200 Commercial Queens College
> > Emporia, KS 66801 254 Rosenthal
> > Library
> > work: (316) 341-5071 Flushing, NY 11367
> > home: (316) 342-9277 work: (718) 997-3790
> > (owned by Copper Creek's Spaetzlle, a Vizsla)
> >
> > Please note new e-mail address: mchelton@carrollsweb.com
> >
> i had originally intended to reply to w. thomas because i too work at a
> bedford(not bedord)library and work with young adults-thought it would be
> interesting to exchange some ideas. as i was working my way through the
> rest of the new mail which i usually enjoy, i was quite disappointed by
> the rude response from the above person. i have not been involved with
> the library that long, however, i don't believe that 25+ years gives you
> "license" to be rude.
>
> good luck with your inquiry w. thomas and please let me know if you
> receive some good suggestions-i'm sure you will because there are alot of
> people on this list with very positive and polite responses.
>
> ana bartlett
> abartlet@bedlib.org
> 1323 K St.
> Bedford, IN 47421
>
> > > > >
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:51:59 1998
From: "Teresa Handleman" <teresah@lvccld.lib.nv.us>
Subject: A Thanks & A Request
I wanted to send a belated thank you to all of you who responded to my
request for information on seperate internet policies for children. I was
surprised to find that there were more of them out there than I thought!
I have forwarded the info. to my supervisor and she has presented it to
her committee. She wanted me to express to all of you her gratitude also.
She has asked me to pose to the collected minds of PUBYAC another
request. One of the 12 urban branches in our district here in Las Vegas
wants to contract a vendor to provide and sell coffee in their library.
My question to all of you is two-fold:
1. Does anyone work for a library branch/district that has an
existing contract with a coffee vendor?
2. If so, I would appreciate it if either a copy of the contract
could be faxed to me, so that I may forward it to my supervisor, or if you
could give me a contact person's name and phone # from your library/
district, so that someone from our district may communicate with
them..
Your prompt responses are appreciated; my supervisor needs any info. you
all can provide YESTERDAY!! (Just found out myself)
Please send information directly to me at:
Teresa Handleman
Rainbow Library
fax #: (702) 243-7300
e-mail: teresah@lvccld.lib.nv.us
thandleman@hotmail.com
Thanks in advance ;-)
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Teresa Handleman, Library Assistant **Opinions expressed are my own**
Las Vegas-Clark County Library District
Rainbow Library -- Young People's Dept. ____
3150 N. Buffalo Dr. / /)
Las Vegas, NV 89129 /____/ /)
Phone (702) 243-7307 )_____)//)
Fax (702) 243-7300 )_____)// "So many books --
e-mail -- teresah@lvccld.lib.nv.us )_____)/ so little time!"
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:52:02 1998
From: "Erin V. Helmrich" <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: YA in Youth or Adult?
Hello all -
My library is the process of strategic planning and would like to move
Youth and YA downstairs. I am opposed to having YA move downstairs for
various reasons. Would you please let me know:
- Is your YA with Adult or YS?
- Why did you choose its location and does it work for you?
- If you had to do it over again where whould you like YA to be?
My advisory board kids have already informed me that they would like it to
stay upstairs, but apparently that doesn't seem to hold much weight (?!) I
am in the process of trying to attract and improve service to YAs and I am
afraid that putting them in the basement will set me back and I may lose
any progress I have made.
Thank you very much (in advance) -- please reply directly to me.
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-())))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((()-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Erin V. Helmrich, M.L.S.
Youth Services/Young Adult Librarian
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Royal Oak Public Library e-mail: helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us
222 E. 11 Mile Rd.
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
Phone: (248) 541-1470
Fax: (248) 545-6220
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:52:01 1998
From: Tamatha Williams <twilliam@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us>
Subject: National Storytelling Festival
Hi!
Does anyone have any info about this year's NSF?
I haven't received a brochure yet - I was wanting
to know who was telling this year and the registration
form.
Thanks.
__________________________________________________________________________
| Tammy Williams My opinions are my own - |
| Children's Librarian however odd they may be. |
| Cliffdale Branch Library My life is the product of a |
| twilliam@cumberland.lib.nc.us diseased mind, and I love it. |
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:52:05 1998
From: Melissa Orth <morth@lithgow.lib.me.us>
Subject: leftie patrons
Hi All,
Being a southpaw, I'd have to second Pat Vasilik's opinion that we are
pretty adaptable people to this right-handed world. I guess since we
lefties are geniuses, we have better things to worry about??? Only
joking. But seriously, I agree that this issue is not something that
your left handed patrons are going to go to town council about so don't
sweat it. They can move the mouse to the left side. You can't please
everyone and *true* lefties are only 5% of the 10% of the population
that are left handed anyway.
Just my two cents,
Melissa
Melissa Orth
Lithgow Public Library
Augusta, ME 04330
morth@lithgow.lib.me.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:52:18 1998
From: "Marin Younker" <marin@CI.TIGARD.OR.US>
Subject: teen advisory newsletter
hello. i am looking for copies of newsletters produced by teen
advisory boards. my teen idea group meets twice per month at the
library and in the hopes of doing something fun/creative with our
time, i'd like to produce a newsletter with creative writing, art,
reviews, etc. any of you out there who have such a newsletter, would
you mind mailing me one, to be used for inspiration, ideas? thanks
much. marin.
13125 SW Hall Blvd
Tigard, OR 97223
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
J. Marin Younker
Youth Services Librarian
Tigard Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:53:16 1998
From: Carol Reid - Bloomington Public Library <creid@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: attracting teens/Bedford PL
Far be it from me to defend Mary Kay-- whom I have long admired!-- but
please reread her response from a reference librarian's point of view. I
think she is really trying to determine how much Wilson Thomas knows
before she recommends sources. It's so easy to misread email enquiries!
Speaking from a young adult librarian point of view, advocacy comes first.
If you haven't spoken to the library staff about attitudes towards teens,
te battle is over before it is begun! When I started at my job here, all
the problems with machines, all the vandalism was blamed on "those
kids".
When I pointed out that those octagenarians were just as bad--with their
canes and all!-- I was trying to make the point that even general
attitudes like this influence service. And it's an ongoing job. (Please
note that I am generalizing to make a point, I am not anti-octagenarian!)
Everyone knows that this list is a learning tool-- even if you just lurk!
It has provided me invaluable assistance with collection development,
attitude adjustments and interview questions.
Oh, Can't we all just get along?
Sorry for the soap box lecture. It's been building for a while.
Cheers!
And my sig file is at the end of this whole thing so I will identify
myself here again:
Carol Reid Young Adult Librarian
Bloomington Public Library, Bloomington IL
creid@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us
On Wed, 27 May 1998, Ana Bartlett wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 23 May 1998, Mary K Chelton wrote:
>
> > Wilson Thomas posted:
> >
> > >Hello, I'm doing promotianal work for the young adult section at
the
> > >Bedford Public Library
> > >and am looking for ideas on attracting teens. I am putting
together a
> > >survey and I would
> > >appreciate any ideas for questions. Also I wouldn't mind input on
how to
> > >attract teens.
> > >thanks.
> >
> > Wilson, could you tell us whether you are a librarian or not? You
sound
> > unfamiliar with the extensive literature that exists on this topic.
For
> > example, the two Excellence in YA Services books from ALA, the annual
John
> > Cotton Dana Award winners, and just about every issue of VOYA will
give you
> > ideas on this topic. What worries me, though, is that Bedford thinks
this
> > is just a PR problem. If you are successful in attracting them in the
short
> > term, what is Bedord prepared to do in the long term, and is ALL OF
THEIR
> > STAFF ready for an influx of teenagers?
> >
> > Mary K.
> >
> > Mary K. Chelton, PhD (+ 25 years library experience) New address:
9/1/98
> > School of Library and Information Management Graduate School of
> > Library &
> > Emporia State University Information Studies
> > 1200 Commercial Queens College
> > Emporia, KS 66801 254 Rosenthal
> > Library
> > work: (316) 341-5071 Flushing, NY 11367
> > home: (316) 342-9277 work: (718) 997-3790
> > (owned by Copper Creek's Spaetzlle, a Vizsla)
> >
> > Please note new e-mail address: mchelton@carrollsweb.com
> >
> i had originally intended to reply to w. thomas because i too work at a
> bedford(not bedord)library and work with young adults-thought it would be
> interesting to exchange some ideas. as i was working my way through the
> rest of the new mail which i usually enjoy, i was quite disappointed by
> the rude response from the above person. i have not been involved with
> the library that long, however, i don't believe that 25+ years gives you
> "license" to be rude.
>
> good luck with your inquiry w. thomas and please let me know if you
> receive some good suggestions-i'm sure you will because there are alot of
> people on this list with very positive and polite responses.
>
> ana bartlett
> abartlet@bedlib.org
> 1323 K St.
> Bedford, IN 47421
>
>
> > > > >
>
>
>
Carol Reid "You see, I don't believe that libraries
Young Adult Librarian should be drab places where people sit in
Bloomington Public Library silence, and that's been the main reason
Bloomington IL for our policiy of employing wild animals
creid@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us as librarians." --attr. Monty Python
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:53:24 1998
From: Sharon McClintock <sharon_m@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Stumper re imaginary animal: Clarification
Just to clarify: the title is "The Aminal" (purposeful misspelling of
"animal" to reflect the characters' mispronunciation of the word.)
Sharon McClintock
EN_ELEANOR@4cty.org wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded to my stumper regarding the imaginary
> pet. The title is indeed ANIMAL by Lorna Balian, Abingdon Press, 1972.
> We have one very happy patron. Much appreciated.
> Eleanor Henricks
> George F. Johnson Library
> Endicott, NY
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:53:28 1998
From: Karen Wendt <bewendt@facstaff.wisc.edu>
ubject: Re: Daycare outreach policies
Jan:
I do Outreach to Daycare and Headstart in my immediate community of about 9000.
I do not do home-based daycare centers as their groups are usually small enough
for them to bring the children to the library. The institutional daycare centers
have large numbers of children and limited transportation. When they use to come
to the library they had to come in two or three van loads (can you imagine the
difficulties with that).
I schedule Outreach on a rotating basis during the months that I can afford the
time away from the library, which is usually mid-September to mid-December and
February to April. I do one daycare a week and I do a 30 minute storytime
presentation just as I would for an in-library storytime. I only do storytimes
at the centers for 3-6 year old children. I send a schedule and the guidelines
to the centers at the end of August and mid-January. We have an established
routine and for us Thursday mornings work well for all centers, except Headstart
which is Wed. at 1:00 p.m.
We have theme based kits for centers to use with the children. They include
books, puppets, cassettes, prop stories, flannel board stories and fingerplays,
etc. They check-out for two weeks and can be reserved up to 6 months in advance.
Hope this helps!! I love the Outreach! And, you can include them in your summer
library programming. Have fun. Karen
Karen M. Wendt <<kmwendt@scls.lib.wi.us>
Youth Services Coordinator
Monona Public Library
1000 Nichols Road, Monona, WI 53716 USA
<smaller>http://www.scls.lib.wi.us/monona/youth.html
</smaller>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:53:45 1998
From: AMY LONG <s_along@MAIL.CLARION.EDU>
ubject: Left-handed patrons
Dear Yackers,
As a fellow left-hander/southpaw (from where did that term
derive?), I have often jestingly said, "I'm a left-handed women living in
a right-handed world!" But, I too have adjusted quite well, moving the
mouse to my left and clicking with my middle finger.
Ah, but there is a twist to my tale! I am disabled and can no use
my right hand to control the mouse. It can be very frustrating when there
is no room to move the mouse to my left and have to reach across the
keyboard to use the critter. So, I will get on my soap box and ask that
my soon-to-be fellow librarians (I graduate with my MLS in August), when
designing work stations, please make room to move the mouse to either side
of the keyboard! Thanks! :)
Amy Long
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:55:06 1998
From: jcanosa@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
Subject: Recent posts re: attracting teens
Please, PUBYACers...
Recently someone requested ideas for attracting teens to the library,
and some rather flame-like posts have ensued.
I AM NOT THE MODERATOR, but am a faithful reader & infrequent poster
and I don't think we should be attacking each other on the list. If
you object to the tone someone takes, or the approach to finding
information, please address that person personally. I know sometimes
people don't include their email addresses in their posts, but that's
another post.
Ducking my head in anticipation,
Jean
Jean Canosa Albano, MLIS
jcanosa@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
Young Adult Services
Springfield (MA) City Library
"Every woman in love thinks her man looks like Superman." ---Lois Lane
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:56:15 1998
From: "Mary Seratt, Sr.Manager, Main Children's" <SERATTM@MEMPHIS.LIB.TN.US>
Subject: Rudeness?
It seems as though I am not the only person who is grouchy this early in the
morning and late in the week! It's nice that the person from Bedford has
such vehement defenders, but let's take a step back and a deep breath, please.
It appears as though I missed the original query, but I read the snip quoted
in everyone else's message, and feel compelled to jump in.
Regarding the original question about attracting teens:
It seems like it might be helpful for posters of questions to tell
us what resources he or she has already checked, the same way we do stumpers.
It would also be helpful for posters to reread their question, and make sure
that it is as clear as possible, even for dim-bulbs like me to get. I did not
catch just who the original poster was hoping to survey...teens? staff?
community members? folks at nearby schools or businesses? I also did not
perceive what the poster was hoping to attract teens to. A program? general
library attendance? volunteer opportunities? Generally speaking, I try not to
assume too much about the question a person asks. I might not have the right
idea. This is where the reference interview comes into play. It is how I
try to find out just what the real question is. It sure sounded to me as if
that was what Mary K. was trying to do. Questioning credentials? Maybe not.
Trying to find out a level of prior knowledge? More likely. Are the chances
of no one having access to ALA publications in Bedford really so great? I
hope someone there belongs to ALA and at least gets their catalog of
publications.
One more thing- about the whole staff just learning to cope. That is
not something you can automatically count on...and it often takes just one
encounter with a nasty adult who thinks noisy, funny looking, hormonally
beset teens have no place on the planet, let alone in the library to turn
them off for years. Staff members need to know that teens will be allowed
and encouraged as a matter of polic. They may need training and support to
cope.
Far more than my two cents worth, but then, it's a grouchy Friday and I
didn't care for the snippy attitude I perceived (Ms.PhD indeed! Just try
and get one- they don't grow on trees!)
Mary Seratt, Senior Manager Children's Department
Main Library
Memphis Shelby County Public Library and Information Center
1850 Peabody
Memphis, TN 38104
serattm@memphis.lib.tn.us
*******hoo boy! these reamrks are surely mine and mine alone and NOT those
of the system!*****
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:56:28 1998
From: "Kathleen Hutchins MHV (978) 373-1586" <hutchins@mvlc.lib.ma.us>
Subject: Computer Club
I was unsuccessful in locating the pubyac archives on the Internet; my
apologies if this question has been posted before! We would like to run
a computer club this summer at the library for children in grade 4-6. I
was thinking of doing some desktop and electronic publishing,
internet scavenger hunts, and games. Have any of you done this sort of
program? What sorts of things did you do? What worked, and what
didn't? Your imput would be greatly appreciated! Please reply directly
to me at egallawa@concentric.net I would be happy to post the combined
responses to the list if there is an interest.
Thanks in advance!
Beth Gallaway
Haverhill Public Library
Haverhill, MA
egallawa@concentric.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:57:19 1998
From: Filtering Facts <burt@northwest.com>
ubject: Public Library Sued for NOT Filtering
On May 27, 1998, the Livermore (Calif.) Public Library became the first
public library to be sued for failing to protect children from pornography.
Earlier a lawsuit was filed in Florida against the Broward County Public
Schools for allowing children to access pornography.
The complaint, filed by a parent with the assistance of the Pacific Justice
Institute , says that a minor accessed sexually explicit websites using the
library's computers, downloaded images harmful to minors to a floppy disk,
and then printed them out at a relatives house.
The complaint asks for an "injunction against the City of Livermore
preventing it or its agents, servants, and employees from spending any
public funds on the acquisition, use, and/or maintenance of any computer
system connect to the Internet or World Wide Web for which it allows any
person to access, display, and/or print obscene material or for which it
allows minors to access, displays, and/or print sexual material harmful to
minors."
Read the Full Complaint , Attorney Michael Millen's letter to the City of
Livermore, and the Livermore City Attorney's response letter at:
http://www.filteringfacts.org/liver.htm
Public library directors should take note:
Fail to Protect Children, and You Can Be Sued.
*****************************************************************************
David Burt President, Filtering Facts
Website: http://www.filteringfacts.org
E-Mail: David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
Phone/Fax: 503 635-7048
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 16:57:43 1998
From: Andrew Finkbeiner <ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us>
Subject: RE: Daycare outreach policies
Hiya, Pubbers!
Rockford Public Library is a medium to large urban library serving a
population of 140,000. Our main library has a staff of eight to draw
from when presenting storytimes. We have offered storytime at the
library for home and center-based daycares and preschools for a long
time now. Groups can schedule a special storytime up to twice a month,
Monday through Thursday. We do about 15 to 20 of these story times each
month.
We started outreach to daycare centers this year. We added a full time
librarian position to do on-site storytimes, resource advice and
workshops.
When we started planning for outreach storytimes, we knew we could not
serve the entire early childhood education and care community, so we
figured we would exclude home daycares and preschools at this time and
focus on children in center-based care. Our thought was that home day
cares would be too numerous for one person to handle effectively, and
experience told us that parents of children in preschool would be more
likely to bring their children to library events. Children in full day
center-based care, we reasoned, would be least likely to get to the
library during the day (and perhaps evenings and weekends) and could be
reached expeditiously.
Using a list of licensed daycares and preschools from the Department of
Children and Family Services, we surveyed all of the daycares within the
city limits, asking about what they needed/wanted and how many
classrooms or groups they had.
After compiling the results, we settled on limiting our on-site
storytime service to the 49 classrooms of 4 & 5 year olds in the 30
centers that responded to our survey. That allows us to visit each
classroom twice in one year, giving us some "recall" impact with the
children. So far, our visits have proved very popular, with centers
requesting more service than we can accommodate.
Please e-mail me if you want more specifics. (Please note my new e-mail
address)
Andrew Finkbeiner
Rockford (IL) Public Library
andrew@rockford.lib.il.us
Visit our new web site at http://www.rpl.rockford.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:02:36 1998
From: Mary K Chelton <mchelton@carrollsweb.com>
ubject: Rudeness on PUBYAC
A semi-rant:
For those of you who think I was rude to Wilson, with whom I've had a
subsequent and hopefully productive e-mail discussion, I want to point out
some things:
1) I have a repetitive motion injury and tend to ignore questions that are
decontextualized, meaning that a reader can get no idea where the person
has already looked for information or how much the person already knows, in
order to help them, and I try to get my students to ask very contextualized
questions on listserves so as not to waste a lot of other people's time
(although that sometimes fails). I can't afford to reinjure my tendon
casually. I asked Wilson if he was a librarian because something in his
message sounded as if he was not a librarian, and as he has found out, I
will take a lot of time with somebody, especially in this case, a young
adult himself, who wants to improve services to his age group. Instead of
(or in addition to) criticizing me for being rude, I hope you gave him some
ideas, because he's up against the classic
we-have-designed-the-library-as-if-teenagers-don't-exist problem. (It is
particularly wonderful to try to explain to a teenager why we keep doing
that.)
2) I was pretty viciously flamed here as a no-nothing academic for one
response I did make to somebody, which is when I added the "+ 25
years"
crap to my signature. I seem to have attracted a new class of flamers with
that. Having gotten a difficult PhD in another field in my 50s, I make no
apology for that. I also scapegoated enough LIS profs in my day to take a
few hits, too.
3) I am very disheartened by the number of "old-timer" YA specialists
who
carry a great deal of collective and helpful wisdom around in their heads
who won't deal with this list at all, partly because it's outside their
pre-Internet culture frame, partly because they are not children's
librarians and get bored with those questions, some of the YALSA listserves
better cover their interests, but also because they cannot deal with the
inherent laziness that has come with Internet. (The worst offenders are the
LM_Net people whose first recourse for ANYTHING is their list.)
I think the more often we use a list like PUBYAC for non-emergency
questions that have been well-documented in library literature, the more
often we drive people off the list. Why do we teach online and print
searching in library schools if librarians refuse to use these tools for
themselves? Ironically, it's like adolescence, there seems to be collective
amnesia about those skills as well as that stage of life. Some years back,
I posted a notice about a non-alphabetic keyboard of possible interest to
children's services people from the Edupage list and got flamed for posting
"commercial" messages to the utterly "pure" PUBYAC list. It
seems one can't
win here.
Having said all that, if anybody wants the latest version of my ongoing YA
Bibliography, please e-mail me directly and let me know if you can open
attachments or need it as part of the e-mail message.
Mary K. Chelton
Mary K. Chelton, PhD (+25 years of library experience
new address as of 9/1/98: GSLIS, Queens College, City University of New
York, 254 Rosenthal Library, Flushing, NY 11367. Phone: (718) 997-3790.
(also please note new current email address in header)
currently at 2025 Prairie Lane, Emporia, KS 66801. Phone: (316) 342-9277.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:02:58 1998
From: Kate McLean <katem@mail.bulloch.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: children's music sources
Someone asked for a catalogue source for children's music and materials
a while ago. I just got a nice little catalogue from Music For Little
People (800-346-4445). Its multi-cultural and has classical music too.
Kate McLean
Youth Services Librarian
Statesboro Regional Library
katem@mail.bulloch.public.lib.ga.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:03:10 1998
From: "Carrie Eldridge" <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>
ubject: Re: pubyac V1 #323
Good for you Kelli Phelan of Tulsa, OK! This listserv is for helping each
other get the job done - not to judge people!
Is there even a library school that offers
consistent training for the YA Librarian? With all the new
'stuff' in libraries these days, we are all pioneering anyway!
Carrie Eldridge
San Juan Island Library District
Friday Harbor, WA 98250
celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:03:53 1998
From: SHERYL BAILEY <BAILEYS@charleston.lib.sc.us>
Subject: rude?
At the risk of going off on a tangent, am I the only one who didn't think Mary
K's questions/comments were rude? When I read her post, I thought they were
good, practical questions. And if someone did find them offensive, is it
necessary to be rude in return?
Sheryl Bailey
Charleston County (SC) Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:04:12 1998
From: "Ruth deGuzman Dalman" <rdd@nwc.edu>
Subject: children's area in public libraries
G'day,
I'm looking for resources that show/describe innovative physical
layouts for children's areas in public libraries.
I'd appreciate any direction here.
Shalom,
Ruth deGuzman Dalman
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Ruth deGuzman Dalman e-mail: rdd@nwc.edu
Reference/ phone: 612-628-3353
Extended Campus Library Service- contact: 612-628-3388/ 1-888-283-0812 (toll
free)
Berntsen Resource Center library: 612-631-5241
3003 Snelling Ave. North
St. Paul, MN 55113-1598
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:05:32 1998
From: JEFFPAZ@aol.com
Subject: Elementary School Database and Link site
We found an excellent site listing 35,000 elementary schools in the USA.
http://www.knowledgeuniverse.org/elementary
If the elementary link is not current, the link automatically sends you to a
form where you
can enter a current URL and email address, update the address and phone number
for the
specific school and it gets updated.
Best of all, it's free and there are no advertising messages which makes it
very 'kids safe.'
There are only two or three sponsors who are in the education field. Every URL
is tested
before it's added to make sure it's a legitimate school URL.
Share this site with your peers....it's the most comprehensive list of schools
we've found
yet.
A highschool site is supposed to be out next month.
Jeff
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:05:52 1998
From: "Roseville Public Library, Youth Services" <libyouth@roseville.ca.us>
Subject: Complaint about Boys and Sex
Has anyone dealt with any complaints about either of these two books by
Wardell B. Pomeroy: Boys and Sex or Girls and Sex (Third Ed., 1991)? I
have recently had a written complaint about them by a parent who wants
us to move them to the adult collection. We presently shelve the books
in our Youth Non-Fiction collection, which is for everyone up through
about age 14. The parent refers to current litigation about alleged
child abuse in the creation of data for the Kinsey Reports, which
Pomeroy co-authored with Kinsey. Pomeroy does quote from some of
Kinsey's research in these later books. Both School Library Journal and
Bulletin gave positive reviews, and recommended them for grades 6 and
up. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has spent some time with
these books.
Celia Dirks Hall
libyouth@roseville.ca.us
(916) 774-5225
Roseville Public Library
225 Taylor St.
Roseville, CA 95678
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Roseville Public Library, Adult Services
225 Taylor Street
Roseville, CA 95678
Life is just a bowl of queries!
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:06:59 1998
From: Shari_Brown@ci.mesa.az.us
Subject: After School Readers Club
I am looking for ideas for an after school, on-site reading program for 3rd
- 6th graders. The
emphasis is on fun here, I am thinking along the lines of a book review
club with a monthly
published newsletter. The group would meet once a week and the number of
students involved is undecided. Any ideas, tested or not, are appreciated!
I am Shari Brown and I work in the Youth Services dept. at a
public library. I have an opportunity to create and execute a program to
promote reading
and the library at a school site. I am targeting 3rd -6th graders. Thanks
for your time and ideas!
Shari Brown
Mesa Public Library, Mesa , AZ
sharon_brown@ci.mesa.az.us
Thanks!
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:07:13 1998
From: "Kate McCaffrey, Dan Carno" <598161@ican.net>
ubject: identifying toddler books
We have a very large picture book collection, and because of our downtown
location, we have lots of parents coming in on their
lunch hour with limited time to browse. About a year ago we began putting
large colored dots on the spines of the picture books. We use one color
for baby/toddler books, another for preschool books, and a third to
identify picture books appropriate for school age children. Where it
really helps is at either end of the age spectrum - I think this really
helps parents of toddlers, and teachers who are looking for books to use in
class. It's not perfect - pretty subjective in many cases, and there are
lots of books which overlap. We''ve really considered all the arguments,
but decided the convenience is worth it. Parents who feel confident about
books, have time to look, read frequently to their kids, etc, just ignore
the dots and that's fine with us. The books are still shelved together so
it hasn't made any extra work for people who shelve and pull screen
reserves. Another plus is that it's allowed us to move some of the long,
sophisticated picture books from our juvenile ficton section, where they
didn't seem to circulate all that well, into the picture book collection
[with a dot that designates them for older children].
Other groups for whom this is helpful are grandparents expecting visitors
[they often comment], and inexperienced daycare providers.
Kate McCaffrey
Central Library
Onondaga County Public Library
Syracuse NY
4514 Makyes Road
Syracuse, NY 13215
(315) 492-2987
598161@ican.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sat May 30 17:36:59 1998
From: JoAnn Prout <joannp@omaha.lib.ne.us>
Subject: Staff Concerns
Hello Pubyaccers, I am a staff advisory committee member at the public
library where I am employed. Our committee discusses issues and actions
that will promote a positive working environment. This committee would
like to appeal to the administration to append the current transfer policy
to include a provision that would allow lateral transfers to another
location or department at the central library due to "humane reasons."
For
example, an employee who cares for a handicapped child or an employee who
cares for disable/elderly parents might find it beneficial to work at a
location closer to their home. Another example might be an employee who
has medical problems. My questions are: Does any library have a policy
like this in place? If so, could you describe the procedures an employee
would need to follow? What criteria determines "humane reasons"? If an
opening does not exist, what alternatives does the employee have? Are
their legal aspects to consider in denying an employee relocation? Thank
you for your input. JoAnn Prout joannp@omaha.lib.ne.us
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