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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:16:14 1998
From: Nancee Dahms-Stinson <ndahmsst@mail.sos.state.mo.us>
ubject: Publishing on the Web
Can anyone point me to any sites on the web where kids can publish their
stories, poetry, etc? KidPub has shut down for the summer; I have located
Story Book at kids-space.org, but kids relinquish copyright to their works
on that site. I have also found KidNews at www.vsa.cape.com, but I would
really like to find a site very similar to KidPub, that just encourages
kids to publish their creative writing on the web for other's enjoyment.
Any hints?
Nancee
Nancee Dahms-Stinson
Youth & Senior Services Consultant
Missouri State Library
600 W. Main Street, P.O. Box 387
Jefferson City, MO 65102-0387
PHONE: 573-751-1821
FAX: 573-751-3612
EMAIL: ndahmsst@mail.sos.state.mo.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:16:17 1998
From: Becky Smith <bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Division of duties
Our small library has finally, after many years of work, become a
medium-size library, and we're planning on adding another children's
librarian to the staff. Having been the only professional children's
librarian here for 15 years, I'm a little unclear on how to divide the
duties of the department between myself and the new person. I'm
considering concentrating on book selection and children's reference,
and having the new librarian oversee children's programming. Are there
any libraries out there (with two children's librarians) who divide
the work in this way? Does it work? Any suggestions would be
appreciated.
--
Becky Smith
Children's Librarian
Logan (UT) Library
bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us
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"We learn from history that we do not learn anything from history."
-Mark Twain-
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:16:14 1998
From: Sandy Smith <smithsa@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: bulletin boards
I know this is a late reply but better late than never! How about this
book? "Favorite Bulletin Boards from Classroom Beautiful" published by
_The
Mailbox_ magazine. It has beautiful colored pictures of bulletin boards and
patterns for use on the bulletin boards. The ISBN is 1-56234-104-9. It is
for preschool - grade 4. I hope this helps in giving you some great ideas.
Enjoy!
Trudy Terry wrote:
> Does anone have a suggestion for a super NEW Bulletin Board book? I just
> noticedthat ours are from the 60's. I have teachers and others who ask
> for them but I don't use them myself. I made them promise me I didn't
> have to do bulletin boards when I took this job. Thanks . Trudy Terry
> Port Arthur Tx.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:16:14 1998
From: cedwards@mpls.lib.mn.us
Subject: Re: Children & YA Datbases Help! -- The sequal
I've been wanting to post to the list about Children's Reference
Plus, a CD-Rom databse put out by Bowker. this seems like a good
excuse. This is a great tool because it has not only books in print
and recently out of print , but the the "treasure" as we call
"Fiction, Folklore, Fantasy and Poetry for Children 1876-1985."
This print tool being key word searchable by some iteresting
parameters has really helped us answer a ton of stumpers before
pubyac came along and since too. Alas and alack, Bowker is not going
to include the old stuff on it's new "Children's Books in Print"
disk. I think this is in response to bookstores, who are not as
interested in the old stuff as libraries. But it horrifies me. More
and more folks are wanting books they remember and Pubyac is a great
tool for finding them, but eventually all of us who remember the old
titles are going to fade from public service and since libraries are
weeding these old titles, who will know? I asked them to continue it,
but the guy answering the customer service line just suggested I keep
my old version and update with the Children's books in Print and run
two searches when I 'm looking for titles. Maybe that's an answer,
but it wasn't the one I wanted to hear. Do many of you use this? Do
you know about it?
I have to admit that when our catalog goes down, as happens every so
often, this is the place I go to search. It works great and since I
can't limit to juvenile on my current OPAC this is even better
sometimes. I hate to see it go by the board.
Carol Edwards
Minneapolis Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:16:14 1998
From: Rsponaas@aol.com
Subject: Internet use by non-patrons
Regarding the recent posting on restricting internet usage to a library's own
patrons, Rae Kozloff <alib2@sos.net> wrote: "Our library requires
that
Internet users be patrons of our library, so when visitors/tourists passing
through town come in to read their email on the Web we have to turn them
away...."
I am curious why Anacortes Public Library made this policy, and also who they
consider to be their patrons? Are the patrons only registered borrowers at
Anacortes Public Library? Are they the residents whose taxes support the
library (whether or not they are registered borrowers?)
The reason for my surprise is that Greenville County (SC) Library's Board just
adopted a Public Internet Use policy this week. There was, naturally, a great
deal of study and agonizing involved, which was why it has taken us so long.
There was some discussion on restricting the use of the internet to registered
borrowers or to Greenville County residents only. However, this idea was
dropped because public libraries traditionally do not restrict in-house use of
information sources to residents. "Patrons" are whomever walks in (or
calls,
faxes, or e-mails in) to use the facilities. I can walk into a public library
in Plainview, Texas or Paris, France, and read the newspaper or pull a book
from the shelf and read it in-house. That's what we mean when we say
"public."
A library may choose to restrict e-mail privileges (a tricky thing to enforce
from a technological standpoint), but to restrict access to information
because a patron is a non-resident is against the philosophical base upon
which public libraries were built.
Susan Sponaas, Children's Room Supervisor
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:16:14 1998
From: AHOGAN@bham.lib.al.us
Subject: RE: Casey's Insults -Reply
Is this the Jerry Springer list-serv? I thought that it was PUBYAC.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:16:14 1998
From: Rae Kozloff <alib2@sos.net>
Subject: Keyboards for children
We are considering getting a "heavy duty" keyboard for our Kidscat
terminal
in the children's library. Just wondering what types/models some of you
have found to hold up the best under hard use? Do you use the type with
the
trackball built into the keyboard or do you prefer a separate mouse? If
you
could give brand name, model number, and approximate price, it would be
very helpful. Thanks!
Rae Kozloff
Anacortes Public Library, WA
alib2@sos.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:16:14 1998
From: lufkin@apollo.gti.net
Subject: Readathons as Fundraisers?
Susan,
We are in the middle of a building expansion, and like you we wanted to
include the kids. One of our staff had a GREAT idea!
We put out a full-size parking meter bank (plastic, from one of the
catalogs) right near the circ desk, with a cute bulletin board/posters
backdrop asking kids to "Park Your Pennies Here" for the benefit of
the
library capital campaign. We arranged with the fundraising committee to
have these funds set aside for use in furnishing something special for the
Children's Room.
We also put a small glass jar on the adult circ desk with a similar sign
beside it, and we continue to be amazed at how fast it fills with small
change!
In just 10 months we have raised about $1,000 - this in spite of
greatly reduced circ. and usage figures. Far beyond the $$$ though is the
value of the involvement and interest of our young patrons. We have
had _very few_ negative reactions.
Good luck with your fund-raising!
Ruth L.
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( Ruth Lufkin ) [lufkin@gti.net]
Bernards Township Library
Basking Ridge, NJ
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:17:28 1998
From: RUTLAND_FREE@dol.state.vt.us
Subject: request for craft
Dear Pubyacers,
I will be doing a story hour in July. I'd like to preserve a spider's web
to show the children. I remember reading of a way to do this, but now I
can't locate the directions. Does anyone know how to do this? Thank you
for your consideration.
Sincerely,
June Osowski
Rutland Free Library
Rutland, Vermont 05701
Rutland_Free@dol.state.vt.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:20:42 1998
From: "Lynn S. Cockett" <cockett@scils.rutgers.edu>
Subject: book on trial
Hello Pubyackers --
I'm writing to thank you all for the many suggestions you gave
for "non knee-jerk" books for my children's literature class.
Keep them coming if you wish. I have received email privately
from well over thirty people (which is why I stopped responding
individually, sorry). When I finally make a decision and do this
in class, I will send email back to the list. In the email, I'll
send the total list of books suggested, and, probably, some
interesting comments from my students.
thanks again,
Lynn Cockett
PhD Candidate
Rutgers University
cockett@scils.rutgers.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:20:53 1998
From: Lorrie Wheeler <wheelelo@oplin.lib.oh.us>
ubject: Pattern for Sailor Hat
Do any of you have an easy pattern for a paper sailor hat for children to
make? I would appreciate either getting a copy of the pattern or the name
of the book or magazine where I can find it. You can reply to me. Thanks
so much for your help!>
Lorrie Wheeler, MLS
Tuscarawas County Public Library
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/____/ /)
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)_____)// "So many books --
)_____)/ so little time!"
wheelelo@oplin.lib.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:21:54 1998
From: Andree Cote Moxon <acote@netinfo.ubc.ca>
ubject: Planning a budget for a small library...
Hi,
I am a second year student in the Masters of Library Information Studies
Programme at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver. While I am
finishing up my classes here, I am also actively applying all of my course
work in a library setting. Since January 1998, I have helped start up a
small library in a non-profit centre for French language and cultural
studies called "Alliance Francaise de Vancouver". We have bought a
small
database system, started to catalogue books, select and acquire books, plan
children's programmes..etc. My current challenge is in determining a
"budget" for 1998-1999 for our small library.
This task is proving to be quite a challenge as I must be reasonable and
plan modestly since the library, I have just helped to create, is part of a
small non-profit centre. Would anyone in PUBYAC have any experience in
planning small library budgets (either small "public" or non-profit
libraries)? There are approximately 800 library members who take courses
at Alliance Francaise and become automatic library card holders. [Untapped
market=The larger francophone population in the province of British
Columbia represents approximately 80,000 people.]
I would appreciate any help you can provide me with. This past year has
been an anomaly in terms of our purchases, as we have purchased a database
system and furniture which we will not need to purchase next year. How
much or what percentage do your libraries allocate for books, videos, cd's,
cdroms, reference collection, internet, copy-cataloguing, etc....? Is
anyone willing to provide a sample copy of a small library budget?
Thanks in advance. Please respond to me personally at: acote@unixg.ubc.ca
Andree
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:22:12 1998
From: BALLY@aol.com
Subject: Re: Senior High Internet Sites
There are two sites due to be released in July for High Schools. The existing
sites for elementary schools, school districts and libraries are already on
the net;
http://www.learnanytime.com/elementary
http://www.learnanytime.com/libraries
Are these the type of sites you find of value....but focused more for senior
high school students....the planned sites are high schools and colleges around
the world.
Thanks
Jeff
In a message dated 98-06-23 12:38:16 EDT, you write:
<< Greetings:>)
I'm trying to compile a list of Internet sites to use as a bookmark list
for students in a senior high school. I already have Kids Click,any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Thanks,
Margaret Downs
mdowns@gte.net
Chamberlain High School
Tampa, Florida >>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:22:45 1998
From: Jennifer Yost <JY7208@cnsvax.albany.edu>
ubject: THANKS to all School/Public Merge Respondents!
Dear pubyacers:
Many thanks to all who responded to my questionnaire on school/public
library combinations. I couldn't do my research without your insightful
information.
I am compiling my responses, and will post the results soon.
Thanks again - your professional courtesy is GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Sincerely,
Jennifer Yost
Library Media Specialist
West Sand Lake Elem.
West Sand Lake, NY
JY7208@cnsvax.albany.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 20:24:48 1998
From: Guarria <cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Harrassment by patrons?
Hi, all.
A situation has developed in my library which maybe some of you have
also experienced and can perhaps offer suggestions on.
Let me first say that my library is located in a middle to
middle-lower class neighborhood and is basically a blue-collar
community. Now, the problem(s). During the past school year, nearly every
librarian in my library has made valid complaints that many teens who
frequent my library during after-school hours (mainly middle schoolers)
have become downright hostile toward the staff if reprimanded or made to
obey reasonable rules of conduct. We've had at least four occasions, if
not more, in the past two months or so of kids cursing at
staff and being blatantly disrespectful. One librarian in the children's
room was called a "f*#*@n old hag" for insisting a girl use the pay
phone
instead of the staff phone, which is supposed to be used only for
emergencies but which has become a popular alternative for broke teens
wishing to call their friends. Another librarian, after taking away a
teen's rubber ball which he had repeatedly been throwing against an inside
wall, cursed at and argued with the librarian (who eventually requested
assistance from a supervisor), and returned a day later to demand his ball
back from two other librarians at the desk in a threatening, intimidating
manner. There has been a recent occasion of theft of reference books,
with the teen refusing to leave his name when caught by a clerk (and
unfortunately no supervisor available to take proper action), of one
particular 8th grade girl practically soliciting older men within hearing
of a librarian, of loud conversations about sex in the children's room
(including offers for sexual favors, whether real or jokingly) within
hearing of young children and their parents, of teens being kicked out of
the library twice in an hour for inappropriately loud and offensive
behavior in the children's room, only to again return minutes later
(that one was me). The generally argumentative and disrespectful behavior
toward staff has really become an issue and the majority of librarians are
fed up. We do have guards, but it's my feeling that the kids have
discovered that there is no real consequence to their behavior. (I must
admit that the guards have generally gotten a little more forceful lately,
probably since the head of the security company was called and informed of
our problems.) Unfortunately, I can go on and on about other incidents,
and the behavior doesn't seem to be concentrated in one particular group
of kids but seems to be a general trend.
Has anyone had problems of this magnitude, and what was done about it?
Luckily summer is here, but the beginning of the next school year will
come soon enough. (We're right next to the middle school, by the way.) It
doesn't need to be said that not all the kids are so obnoxious, but the
percentage of "bad" kids in my library--or at least disturbing
incidents--
seems to be increasing at an alarming rate. (By the way, I've made an
effort to provide a few after-school programs, but never really get much
of an interest and it's my feeling that the problem kids wouldn't attend
anyway.) Any suggestions? Comments?
Thanks.
Carrie
cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:05:01 1998
From: dunlop@VMSVAX.SIMMONS.EDU
ubject: stumper
Dear PUBYACers,
A young patron (about 9 yrs. old) came into the library where I work
part-time looking for a video based upon a book in which a young boy runs
away from home and builds a treehouse. The children's librarian is on
vacation so I said I would look into it. I have tried FirstSearch
Worldcat and "What Do Children Read Next?" with no luck. I know the
information is very sparse, but if anyone has any ideas it would be much
appreciated!
Noelle Dunlop (MLS student)
dunlop@simmons.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:04:58 1998
From: "Franklin Avenue Library" <franklib@netins.net>
Subject: stumper-rhyme and reason
I have a patron at one of our libraries who remembers a book about two
princesses, Rhyme and Reason. This apparently may be a young adult level
book, possibly 6th grade. The princesses travel around and I am not sure
what they are doing, but do meet a character that grows down. We have
checked the character index in Something About the Author and our reference
department has checked other character indexes and has drawn a blank. If
anyone out there recognizes this book, please let me know. Thanks Ann E.
Murray
franklib@netins.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:05:19 1998
From: "Peggy (Mary) M. Morgan" <pmorgan@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: homeschooling
I need suggestions of titles that will support homeschooling. I searched
the archives, but came up blank. If you all could respond to me directly,
I will post to the list.
Many TIA!
Peggy Morgan
Youth and Young Adult Materials Specialist
The Library Network
13331 Reeck Rd.
Southgate, MI 48195
734-281-3830, ext. 131
pmorgan@tln.lib.mi.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:05:25 1998
From: tlday@juno.com (Tracy L Day)
Subject: stumper--Stone Soup
Does anyone know of an African or Asian version of the folktale, Stone
Soup? I know it is a European folktale, and I have access to many
versions from European countries. However, that's not what my patron
needs. It sure seems like the kind of thing Anansi would do, trick
others into preparing his soup for him, but I can't find a resource.
Thank you for your collective wisdom!
Heather McNeil
Lassie2tel@hotmail.com
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:05:13 1998
From: Ruth Shafer <shafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re:stumper
Thanks to those of you who responded to my quest for Black American
magazines...
and on to my next quest...
Can any of you come up with a book for a six year old about living with
family members such as aunts, cousins, grandparents? I don't have too
much info as the aunt? didn't want to tell me much about the situation,
but is hoping to find something to let this little girl know she isn't the
only person who has had this happen to her. I get the feeling that this
is a some what serious but temporary situation.
TIA
Ruth Shafer
shafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us
ps I gave her The Gardener by Stewart already. She thought it was a good
choice but was hoping to find other books too.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:05:18 1998
From: EAGCI@jazz.ucc.uno.edu
Subject: Stumper - DeGaulle the rat
Hi folks--
Another trip down someone's memory lane. A colleague of mine remembers this
story, probably a picture book from the '50s. It has a character in in named
DeGaulle and he's probably a rat. We've checked A to Zoo without success
and don't have any of the lovely character indexes here. If anyone knows
this book, please let me know directly. Thanks a million,
Ellen Greever
eagci@uno.edu
Dept. of Curriculum & Instruction
Univ. of New Orleans
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:04:46 1998
From: Becky Smith <bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Stumper: Blind boy and ghost?
This must be my day for stumpers (or perhaps my brain just isn't working
properly today!) I have a patron looking for a book she read in
the fifth grade, about 6 years ago. The book is about a blind boy
who moves with his mother to a new town. He makes a friend and the two
boys do everything together but eventually the blind boy realizes that
no one can see his friend and no one else can hear him - he's a ghost.
The patron doesn't recall the title, or the author. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance again -
Becky Smith
Children's Librarian
Logan (UT) Library
bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:04:32 1998
From: Sharon Henegar <henegars@pls.lib.ca.us>
Subject: stumper
I had a middle-aged guy in yesterday who would like to find a childhood
favorite he read in the late '50s (he thinks). He remembers the title as
The Case of the Counterfeit Coin. It could be part of a series, though not
the Hardy Boys, but he read only the one book about these characters.
Anyone recognize this??
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Sharon Henegar
San Mateo (CA) Public Library
henegars@pls.lib.ca.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:04:50 1998
From: Sharon Henegar <henegars@pls.lib.ca.us>
Subject: stumper
I had a middle-aged guy in yesterday who would like to find a childhood
favorite he read in the late '50s (he thinks). He remembers the title as
The Case of the Counterfeit Coin. It could be part of a series, though not
the Hardy Boys, but he read only the one book about these characters.
Anyone recognize this??
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sharon Henegar
San Mateo (CA) Public Library
henegars@pls.lib.ca.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:04:32 1998
From: Dori Molletti <dogsurf2@gte.net>
Subject: Trying to locate children's poem
I have a patron trying to locate a children's poem which starts out with
the folloing five lines:
The Polka Dot tots set sail one day
For the Isle of Rub-a-Dub.
Sandy and Sue were Captain and crew
And their boat was a laundry tub.
They sailed away on a day in May...
She would like the entire text of the poem, or the name of the book that
it is in. I was wondering if there was some kind of reference book for
children's poetry, like Granger's.
The patron says that her Grandmother read the poem to her children, so
it was probably in a book published in the 1940's or 1950's. It may
possibly be a "Golden Book". (I've visited the Golden Books site, but
it is under construction).
Any ideas? Thank you in advance!
Please reply to my personal e-mail at dogsurf2@gte.net.
Dori Molletti
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:05:25 1998
From: Rebecca Purdy <rpurdy@crrl.org>
Subject: STUMPER
We have a patron looking for a book she read about 10 years ago and
we are stumped. The main character, a boy, could project his
consciousness into living things (a tree once during a storm, a bug, a
spider). He had a veterinarian as a friend who knew about his ability.
The book ends when the boy puts his mind into a horse, which then kicks
his body and kills him.
We have checked Genreflecting, Teen Genreflecting, Fantasy
Literature for Children and Young Adults and Novelist. Without an
author or any words from the title they have been of limited use
unfortunately. We think the subject is "psionic abilities" (thanks
Genreflecting). If anyone out there has any ideas, please let me know.
I will be happy to post the answer to the list.
Thank you,
Rebecca Purdy
Young Adult Librarian
Central Rappahannock Regional Library
Fredericksburg, VA
rpurdy@crrl.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 25 23:05:27 1998
From: Deborah McClish <Deborah@rockford.lib.il.us>
Subject: stumper--poetry
Good Morning,
I have two requests for the collective brain.
First, I am looking for the author of the following line of poetry.
"This is truly to live, not to live alone for oneself."
I found it referenced in BENHAM'S BOOK OF QUOTATIONS (published in
1949). However, the actual entry for the quote is located in the
supplement on page 1298b, which our library does not have. Does anyone
have this publication and look up info?
Second, I am looking for a poem called the Prayer of St. Francis. One
line is, "Seek not so much to be pardoned as to pardon." I have looked
in BARTLETT'S, BARTLETT'S UNUSUAL QUOTATIONS, WORLD TREASURY OF
RELIGIOUS QUOTATIONS (1966), THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF RELIGIOUS QUOTATIONS
(1965), THE BOOK OF CATHOLIC QUOTATIONS (1956), BENHAM'S BOOK OF
QUOTATIONS (1949).
Any suggestions of where to look, etc. will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much for the help.
Deborah McClish
Librarian, Youth Services
Rockford (IL) Public Library
deborah@rockford.lib.il.us
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