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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:52:38 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #387
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:30:04 -0500
From: "Mary J. Soucie" <mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: Biography Songs/Poems/Story
William,
Hi! Not sure that this will fit in or not but I have a neat activity on "We
Didn't Start the Fire" by Billy Joel that was designed by a group in my
undergrad class at Illinios State Univ. ( I no longer remeber their names or
I'd give them full credit.) If you're interested, I'd be happy to give more
info or copy of the activity.
Mary J. Konieczka
William Goehrig Orr wrote:
> In September, I doing a 3 one-hour sessioned program for children (30 max)
> on Biography, that is, with a Capital "B" - utilizing elements of
> journaling, biography, and (auto)biography. The program is called:
> All About Me: Now, Then, and Again -- which will cover their now, past,
> and future. I'll be including writing for the fun of it, songs, poetry,
> booktalking, and even (one at this point) a story - folktale to illustrate
> that our life can be a story.<snip>
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:34:55 -0400
From: Sandy Smith <smithsa@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: hello/goodbye songs
Patty, I use this for my openings and it's from "Ring A Ring O'
Roses." I
use just the first verse, but there are 3 altogether.
Open, shut them,
Open, shut them,
Give a little clap.
Open, shut them,
Open, shut them,
Put them in your lap.
Hope this helps. Good Luck! Sandy
P Hay/PPLC wrote:
> I am soon to be a Reference/Youth Services Librarian at a small public
> library. The community is mostly older people and there is at present
> one preschool storyhour each week and occasional special programs.
>
> I am interested in opening and closing storytime rituals/songs/poems. I
> checked the archives and found one ("Here is my book, I open it
wide..."
> and a reference to a hello/goodbye song. Would any of you please share
> your rituals/songs with me? Thank you!
>
> Patty
>
> Patricia Hay
> hayp@snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:59:30 -0500
From: Adelaide Rowe <arowe@egvpl.org>
Subject: Re: Summer Reading Program Incentives - a different perspective
I have been meaning to write this for awhile, and I assume I will be
speaking for others as well as myself. This is my 17th summer reading
program, so I have a sense of history of my Library's successes and
failures, or at least permit me that delusion.
When I first came, we had about 200 or so kids signing up, and with a
bit of spiffing up (actually a John Cotton Dana award) we doubled our
numbers. By spiffing it up, I mean playing a game of sorts, where we ask
the children to read different types of books, including non-fiction.
Good for us etc., but it was not until the brilliant idea of a fellow
staffer to offer t-shirts, that we really increased our numbers.With the
t-shirts, our numbers quadrupled, even at a time when the child
population was diminishing.. We now have had roughly 2000 kids in
program for a number of years. So that is a huge improvement . We are a
community of 33,000 btw.
If someone said to me let the children read for the enjoyment of
reading, I would be more than a bit skeptical. Our t-shirts have become
an institution. In addition to the t-shirts, we give out all sorts of
little prizes (the ones that Illinois Library Association produces as
well as some ordered ones) for every three books the children read. We
offer the t-shirts as the prize for reading 18, and a paperback for 25.
We know that the t-shirts cost more than the paperbacks, but we wanted
the kids to be able to wear them for a larger part of the summer.The
shirts cost less than $4 a piece and we feel they are worth it for the
PR value alone.
Now, I wanted to address the hours read concept versus the number of
books. We have a winter reading program which is cosponsored by the
Chicago Wolves (an ice hockey team).We have had it for two years now,
and we decided to use time increments, giving a raffle ticket for every
30 minutes. We have had 400-500 children participate both years , and
our circulation is hardly up! I really expected some dramatic changes. I
am not greedy or anything, but at least let the statistics show some
effort on our part, please! If we went to that system for our summer
program, I could well imagine what our statistics would look like.
Perhaps the Board would understand, but I think they would not be
pleased. I feel that we have covered both bases, with the two different
programs.
In summation, I think we do bribe the children, but we get them into the
library, and perhaps they don't read as hard a book as they are capable,
but we get them into the Dewey numbers, and they seem to enjoy it.The
children who read those 300 page books would probably read them on their
own anyway, with or without us!
Thanks for hearing my pragmatic and self-serving discourse.
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: jwall@norby.latah.lib.id.us (Jan Wall)
Subject: Fair fingerplays and stumpers answered?
Hello to all -
I was curious about a couple of stumpers - I haven't seen the answers posted.
The first one is about a girl whose father is a sailor and brings her dolls
home from different places. The last one looks like her. (BTW - I posted
this question earlier and it wasn't answered to the patron's satisfaction. I
was hoping that someone else had more luck than I!)
The second is about a boy - Tom, I think - who won a spelling bee because
"there's a rat in separate." I still remember that when I'm spelling
the word!
Now the fair question. My first preschool storytime will be about the fair
(not coincidentally because that's the week of our county fair). I have lots
of books and activities, but am short on fingerplays, action rhymes, songs,
etc. I vaguely remember a song (from when my kids were in kindergarden) that
goes "I went to the animal fair, the something and something were
there..."
but I haven't been able to find it in our somewhat sparse music collection.
Thanks for any ideas -
Jan Wall
Latah County Library
Moscow ID
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:45:41 -0700
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@zelda.walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
Subject: Re: SR ponderings
Yes, you have to let go of wanting a perfectly fair, cheat-proof program.
Mary Ann Gilpatrick
Young Peoples' Librarian
Walla Walla Public Library
238 E. Alder
Walla Walla, WA 99362
509-527-4550
fax: 509-527-3748
magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us
opinions my own, not WWPL, etc etc
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:51:47 -0400
From: Sherri McCarthy <smccarth@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: J Book Discussion Groups
Hi, I'm new to PUBYAC -- and I'm sure this topic has been discussed
before -- but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has been
successful with J-level book discussion groups: either groups with kids
of both sexes, or mother-daughter groups (or parent-child groups...).
[BTW, I'm aware of Shireen Dodson's book MOTHER-DAUGHTER BOOK CLUB and
of several published articles including the recent one in 4/98 School
Library Journal, "Having their say..."]
My library will be starting a mother-daughter group for 4th and 5th
grade girls with their mothers. We are interested in hearing tips on
this and on broader topics such as:
- -- Good books for this age group (we would like to choose
thought-provoking books but maybe not those titles that are likely to be
on school reading lists like "Sarah, Plain and Tall" or "A View
from
Saturday". This seems to be the hardest part so far)
- -- How to keep discussions going, good discussion questions, etc.
- -- Tips on seating and room arrangement
- -- Refreshments, yes or no?
- -- Activities or crafts to go with the discussion, yes or no?
- -- Do you run the program as an ongoing thing (e.g., the first Wednesday
of every month) or close-ended (e.g., a three-month session)?
- -- Good times (after school, nights, weekends?)
- -- Length of meeting (one hour? more?)
- -- LIMIT to size of group (do you limit? how many?)
- -- Ages to put together (does 4th and 5th together make sense? Are
there better combinations?)
- -- Any problems you have had or anticipate (e.g., mothers trying to take
over, objections to the content of book chosen, etc.)
- -- Anything you have found successful?
Thank you so much for whatever information you can pass on to me. I
have been the leader of several adult book discussions for the past five
years, but this is my first venture into the younger age group. You may
email me off-list or post to the list if there is interest. Either way,
I will compile the results (if there is interest).
Sherri McCarthy
Young Adult Librarian
Penfield Public Library
Penfield, NY
smccarth@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:58:55 -0400
From: Sherri McCarthy <smccarth@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: YA Book Discussion Groups
[If you have read the J Book Discussion Group message, this is very
similar, but I thought it might be easier to reply to two different
age-level requests.]
Hi, I'm new to PUBYAC -- and I'm sure this topic has been discussed
before -- but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has been
successful with YA-level book discussion groups: either groups with
kids of both sexes, or mother-daughter groups (or parent-child
groups...).
[BTW, I'm aware of Shireen Dodson's book MOTHER-DAUGHTER BOOK CLUB and
of several published articles including "Bonding through books" by
Faber]
Next spring, my library may be starting a mother-daughter group for 6th,
7th, and 8th grade girls with their mothers. We are interested in
hearing tips on this and on broader topics such as:
- -- Good books for this age group (we would like to choose
thought-provoking books but maybe not those titles that are likely to be
on school reading lists like "The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle"
or "A View from Saturday").
- -- How to keep discussions going, good discussion questions, etc.
- -- Tips on seating and room arrangement
- -- Refreshments, yes or no?
- -- Activities or crafts to go with the discussion, yes or no?
- -- What ages to group together? Will 6th-8th grade work, or is that too
broad? Any other age groupings you would suggest?
- -- Do you run the program as an ongoing thing (e.g., the first Wednesday
of every month) or close-ended (e.g., a three-month session)?
- -- Good times (after school, nights, weekends?)
- -- Length of meeting (one hour? more?)
- -- LIMIT to size of group (do you limit? how many?)
- -- Any problems you have had or anticipate (e.g., mothers trying to take
over, objections to the content of book chosen, etc.)
- -- Anything you have found successful?
Thank you so much for whatever information you can pass on to me. I
have been the leader of several adult book discussions for the past five
years, but this is my first venture into the younger age group. You may
email me off-list or post to the list if there is interest. Either way,
I will compile the results (if there is interest).
Sherri McCarthy
Young Adult Librarian
Penfield Public Library
Penfield, NY
smccarth@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:18:47 -0400
From: Judy Keesan <jkeesan@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: RE: encouragement of young readers
Torrie, dod you have patterns for the set of masks for the different folktales?
or did the kids make up? What ages?
TIA
Judy Keesan
jkeesan@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us
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From: Torrie Hodgson Children's Librarian [SMTP:torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us]
The other arena is fiction-based crafts. We just did a "story mask"
workshop where the kids chose a favorite folktale to check out and made a
set of masks to play the characters at home. 38 folktale picturebooks went
out in the space of an hour.
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:11:25 -0600 (MDT)
From: Jennifer Harshberger <jharsh@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us>
Subject: Creative Lighting
Pubyac,
We are looking at adding some creative lighting to our children's area in
our new branch library to make the area more inviting and exciting to
kdis. The use of neon light is one idea we are tossing around, and we are
wondering what other libraries using neon think about it. Any positive
or negative comments you could share would be much appreciated. Any
other creative lighting ideas you might have are also welcome.
Thanks!
Jennifer Harshberger
Children's Librarian
Fort Collins (CO) Public Library
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 21:35:18 -0400
From: Simpson <jsimpson03@snet.net>
Subject: Re: intergenerational program
Bonnie Lalor wrote:
>
> Has anyone done a intergenerational program?
> What activities did you do?
> Did the older people participate?
> Did you run this through your senior center?
> Any suggestions and ideas are very welcome.
> Thank you
> Bonnie lalor
> James Blackstone Memorial Library
> Branford, CT
Bonnie-
Stratford (CT) Library started Books Build Bridges 3 years ago and it
has become an annual event. We pair up teen volunteers with adults
(usually senior citizens but they don't have to be) and they read to
small groups of kids grade levels 1-3. I wrote an article about it that
appeared in the Feb. 1996 issue of VOYA. The patrons love it! As a
matter of fact, we are doing our 4th Books Build Bridges next week. We
have training for the YA and adult readers (to give them pointers on how
to read to kids) on Tuesday, July 28. At that time, they can chose
their books from a cart we supply. The actual program (with the little
guys) takes place on Thursday July 30. There are 2 sessions, from 11 am
to noon, and from 2-3 pm. Since you're not that far from us, you may
want to come over to observe. Give us a call!
Martha Simpson, Stratford Library
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:28:47 -0700
From: Overmyer <overmyer@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Council on Interracial Books for Children
My understanding is that the Council on Interracial Books for Children has
been out of business for 5 - 10 years.
Elizabeth Overmyer
Berkeley Public LIbrary
Berkeley, CA
>
>
Doug and Elizabeth Overmyer
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:28:48 -0700
From: Overmyer <overmyer@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Strong female characters
Online, you can find the Berkeley Public Library's list of picturebooks with
strong female characters available at www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/bpl/kids
Then click on the GOOD BOOKS link, and you'll find it.
In print, check out Kathy Odean's GREAT BOOK FOR GIRLS, published by
Ballantine (recently joined by her GREAT BOOKS FOR BOYS). There's also
another book published at about the same time called LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE
GIRLS.
Good luck.
Elizabeth Overmyer
Berkeley Public Library
Berkeley, CA
Doug and Elizabeth Overmyer
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:52:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sharon Lavine <slevine@nslsilus.org>
Subject: YA collection development
Hi everyone,
I'd like to pick all of your intelligent brains for this. The library
director and I are trying to write a young adult collection development
policy. This is a small suburban library, population about 11,000,
collection about 50,000. The public schools up to 8th grade are across the
street, but the high school
students go to school in the next suburb near that suburb's library.
Therefore, we don't see too many high school students.
At this time, we have a YA fiction collection only, mostly geared for
junior high and early high school. Nonfiction is put in Adult or Juvenile
sections. The music cassettes we own are mostly for young children (no
CD's). The adult dept. has CD's but doesn't want to buy popular/rock
music for fear of theft. (CD's are not in locked cases). Our video
collection is divided into adult and children's and some of those teenage
type movies are left out.
My questions:
What do other small libraries do about YA nonfiction?
What do other small libraries do about pop/rock CD's? What dept. are they
in, use security or not, any complaints about lyrics?
Where do you put the movies that young teens like?
Respond to me directly.
TIA Sharon Levine
Head of Youth Services
Lincolnwood Public Library (IL)
slevine@nslsilus.org
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:03:25 -0500
From: DLHIETT <dlh@greennet.net>
Subject: RE: Tie Dying
Dear Mindy,
At the end of our Summer Reading Program we will be giving the teen =
participants their very own pizza party. At this party the teens will =
be tie dying tee shirts. Could you please send me some info on Dharma =
Trading Co dye. Where may I purchase it? Thanks in advance.=20
Deb my email address is: dlh@greennet.net
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:54:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Elizabeth Thomsen <et@noblenet.org>
Subject: Selling library discards
Kathy Baxter wrote:
> It would be great if some genius somewhere would figure out a way to
> organize library discards nationally so we could make good money on them
> rather than giving away, in some cases, treasures. I know someone who
> last year purchased a book from a library book sale for 50 cents--and
> resold it within days for $650. I am, however, aware that most of what
> we put in the book sales are not treasures!
We don't need a special plan to sell library discards-- libraries (or
Friends groups) can join in the lively used book sales activities already
happening on the World Wide Web, either through a site like Bibliofind
(http://www.bibliofind.com) where you set prices and wait until someone
wants to buy one, or on eBay, (http://www.ebay.com) which is an auction
site and you may or may not get more money. As long as the book's status
as an ex-library copy is noted and the condition is described fairly,
library groups are as welcome as any other dealer on these sites.
It's a great way to take books that are no longer being used in our
libraries and get them right into the hands of people who really want
them. There are many people out there who are looking for favorite books
from childhood, and who are more than willing to accept an old library
copy. I'm active on rec.arts.books.children, and much of the activity
there is just that-- people wanting to identify and then purchase a copy
of a long lost beloved book.
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Elizabeth B. Thomsen | NOBLE : North of Boston Library Exchange
Member Services Manager | 26 Cherry Hill Drive
et@noblenet.org | Danvers, Mass. 01923
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:13:14 EDT
From: NineTiger@aol.com
Subject: Re: spider web craft
In a message dated 98-07-22 15:32:37 EDT, you write:
<< I am still looking for an abandoned web to try it on. >>
Autumn is best time for orb weavers :)
MG Petrino
ninetiger@aol.com
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