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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:45:01 -0500 (EST)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #630

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:22:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Becky Tatar <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: Buying Harry Potter

At 01:59 PM 3/10/99 MST, you wrote:
> Just wanting to check with other to find out how you are handling the
> buying of the new Harry Potter book(s). We were wondering if anyone
> is buying directly from Amazon.uk where it is now available and
> "dispatched within 24 hours."

Dear Sharon,
In just the last week (March ? 1999), Publisher's Weekly had an article about
this very book. Many people do seem to be buying it through amazon.uk. Some
bookstores are even using UK distributers, which is in violation of Scholastic's
US rights agreement. This is according to that article. Hope this helps!

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Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals/Audio-Visual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL 60505
Phone: 630/264-4100, x4116
FAX: 630/896-3209
e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
Opinions are my own.

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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:32:37 -0500 (EST)
From: "Erin V. Helmrich" <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: re: buying Harry Potter

Just an FYI -- I was reading all of these messages and wondering how did
I get it so easy? On Monday I went to the local BORDERS here in Michigan
(Metro Detroit) and bought myself a hardcover copy for the library. Am I
missing something? ;)

ERIN

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 07:07:09 -0600 (CST)
From: lochwouters@axp.winnefox.org
Subject: Re: Buying Harry Potter

Hey, thanks for the tip on Harry Potter! I web-strolled on over to
Amazon.uk just after I read your post and ordered copies for our library.
We have rabid Harry Potter fans and a long reserve list and its a treat
to be able to give them the sequel a full six months before scheduled US
publication. Was it worth $19 per hardcover book average we paid? For us,
yes...we like to get kids and books together while the interest is hot.

The intriguing question for me though (as it may be to others who
regularly use internet bookstores at an international level) - how will
this level of global purchasing ultimately affect our own publishing
houses in the US. Food for thought...the next ten years should be *very*
interesting.

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Marge Loch-Wouters | Email: lochwouters@winnefox.org
Menasha's Public Library lochwout@athenet.net
Elisha D. Smith Public Library | Phone: (920)751-5165
Menasha, WI 54952-3191 | Fax: (920)751-5159
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:22:12 -0500
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: odd way of categorizing books

Scholastic has some PHonics readers that list what the child will be
working on. THese seem to be pretty good-we bought them with grant money
from their school catalog.
Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
Bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us

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From: Mary Seratt, Sr.Manager, Main Children's

Has anyone else out there in library-land noticed folks (teachers,
especially) requesting books by phonetic combination lately? <snip>

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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:50:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: ACTION NEEDED ON S. 97

On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Mark Gochnour wrote:

> I realize that filters, don't work perfectly and they could provide a
> false sense of security for some parents but it doesn't seem like the ALA
> can have it both ways. Either, it has to abide by the decision made at the
> local level or it has to allow the decision to be made at the federal
> level.

I think for the most part, Mark & I are going to have to agree to
disagree. Since I most assuredly don't think that government's role (at
least in the U.S.A. is to protect its citizens - except of course, from
the government itself - but that's a horse of a different color). On the
other hand, ALA actually *can* have it both way in regard to how local
libraries handle internet access:

(1) Opposing mandatory one-size-fits-all filtering can be done if ALA is
convinced that this is an unconstitutional act which infringes upon
liberties reserved to the people. Local governments aren't free, to, say,
ban women from voting, legalize slavery & other obvious unconstitutional
notions, even it the majority of locals want to.

(2) When it comes to providing internet access in general, local bodies do
need to come up with a way of handling it (don't offer it, limit times,
&etc) just so long as those local solutions don't involve the heavy hand
of local government infringing upon constitutionally protected rights.

Now it's possible for men & women of goodwill to differ on ALA's
conviction as to what extent imposed filtering is constitutional, but
within that framework, I think the ALA is not only being reasonable but
doing a surprising decent job dealing with an important library issue.

Kirsten Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:05:40 -0500
From: kskellen@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us (Kendra Skellen)
Subject: RE: Controlled vocabulary

Bob Reese puts out books with word lists in the front of the book. He has
zero word, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 & 60 word books. Is this what you are
looking for when you say controlled vocabularies. The Rookie Readers also
often give the word list.


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From: Patricia Hay/GBPL [SMTP:hayp@snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 11:20 AM
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: Controlled vocabulary

Does anyone know of a list of books with controlled vocabularies? Parents
sometimes ask and except for some Dr. Seuss I am unsure. Thanks.

Patricia Hay
Reference & Children's Librarian
Gulf Beaches Public Library
Madeira Beach, FL
hayp@snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:44:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Julie Linneman <juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us>
Subject: RE: Harry Potter

In regard to buying the British edition of a book not yet available in
North America for your library, it seems to me that this is an ethics
issue. As librarians, we have a responsibility to respect the rights of
publishers. I may misunderstand the issues at stake, but if a particular
publisher has purchased the right to sell the book in North America, it
seems somehow unethical to knowingly go around them simply so patrons
don't have to wait for the North American release. I'm not sure that we
can do a lot about individuals who use their own credit cards to buy them,
and if I'm a tourist in England, I may choose to buy a Harry Potter book
while I'm there. But to involve a library in circumventing the publishing
process seems unfair.

I will admit, I have a background in publishing and previously worked for
a publishing company, so perhaps I am biased. Does anyone else see it
this way? If I am in error, please (in kindness) share why you see it
differently. Thanks.

Julie Linneman
juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:53:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Ruth Shafer <shafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: staff query

IF you work in a medium sized urban library could you possibly share your
youth service deptartment's staff levels, annual circ. for your library,
and if your youth dept. is responsilbe for YA services with me.

How many
storytimes does the youth dept. do per week or month? School visit?....I
am trying to gather data in regards to asking for more staff.
I work in a city library with an annnul circ. of 1,200,000 (over half is
juvenile or YA material), we have 6 weekly storytimes and two programs
that meet once a month. WE had 102 school visits last year......
We have one full time librarian, 1 part time librarian, and one full-time
assistant and one 10 hours per week assistant. The library is open 70
hours per week.

Thanks so much to anyone who has time to help me out.

Ruth Shafer
Vanocuver Community Library
Vancouver, Washington

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:33:01 -0500
From: Melody Allen <melodyan@lori.state.ri.us>
Subject: button machine

I am posting this for a fellow librarian. Please respond directly to her at michelve@lori.state.ri.us

We'd like to talk with or hear from someone who owns/uses a button-making machine. CPL is specifically interested in purchasing the "Badge-A-Matic II" from the Badge A Minit company, LaSalle, Illinois. The machine costs $495.95 -- which is why we'd like to know if works as well as "they say!" The company has no local reps and can't tell us if they have sold this item to anyone in the area. Thanks for your help!
Michelle

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:16:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Julie Linneman <juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us>
Subject: Bilingual storytimes

I have been asked by Early Headstart to do a May storytime program in the
evening for families of young children. After it was scheduled, she
off-handedly threw in, "Oh, and can you do it bilingual in English and
Spanish?" I have survival Spanish skills (although that survival might be
EXTREMELY limited!!), and know vocabulary words for lots of library terms
in Spanish, but I don't feel fluent enough to do a program. We have one
person recently hired in the Adult Reference as a Library Assistant who
knows Spanish. She has graciously agreed to help me with the May program.

Then we were asked by a school to do three ten-minute presentations next
week about how to get library cards, resources & programs available for
children, etc. for a Family Literacy Night at a school--in Spanish. Once
again, the new staff person was recruited to do the presentations.

But my question is: if you have done bilingual storytimes in your
library, how do they work best? I have thought of several techniques--
translating sentence by sentence, a page at a time, alternating stories in
English and Spanish. I once saw a great storyteller (named Olga Loya, in
California) do a storytime primarily in English but with lots of Spanish
words--she would toss the Spanish word right out in the English sentence,
but then she would just repeat the emphasized word in English at the end
of the sentence "She stamped her PIEDS; her FEET..." but I don't know if
that would work well for primarily Spanish speaking children.

Is it better if one person does the whole thing? I'm not sure if the new
staff person feels ready to do her own storytime (if she does, I'd gladly
let her do the whole thing if that would work best), but I want to give
her whatever support I can. If needed, I could memorize the presentation
in Spanish myself, with help from her, but it would be "canned" in that I
could not change it spontaneously or clarify anything they didn't
understand. (My Spanish is such that I tend to say everything in present
tense--can't remember how to use past or future or conditional tenses,
although I try to be conscientitious about using the right person for the
verbs. I also sometimes forget a word and resort to describing it with
other words--like if I forget the word for "borrow," I try saying "when
you take it to your house").

Any advice you can offer from your own experience would help. Thanks!

Julie Linneman
Wichita (KS) Public Library
juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:16:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Sharon Lavine <slevine@nslsilus.org>
Subject: Book Buddies

Hi Everyone!

This summer I plan to include a Book Buddies program, where older readers
(6th grade and up) read with younger readers (2nd & 3rd grade). If you
have had a similar program at your library, I'd like to know what
training/instructions you gave to the older readers. Please respond to me.

TIA

Sharon Levine
Lincolnwood (IL) PL
slevine@nslsilus.org

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:55:55 -0500
From: "Stow-Munroe Falls Library, Children's Room" <stowkids@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: grade levels on books

We put most of our Cleary books in the J fiction and they serve as nice
bridging titles as the kids move from the easy readers to the others.

Carolyn Burrier
Head Childrens Services
Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library
Stow Oh

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:54:38 +0000
From: kkrenz@lib.az.us (Kami Krenz)
Subject: cable stories

Aargh!! I don't know why we were told we didn't need permission at the
time we did the cable storytime...I do know, from spending years trying to
get copyright permission to record talking books for the blind that it is
often nearly impossible. That would deter me from doing it now for a TV
show. It is so difficult that the U.S. Government after negotiations with
American publishers and organizations for the blind finally gave
permission in 1996 to organizations who record books in special format for
the handicapped to do so without permission as long as the book is not
reproduced in regular format. The Library of Congress and state affiliates
sometimes could not even get permission for best sellers! And you don't
even want to think about getting foreign permission... It's not that the
publishers don't want to give permission usually, they just don't have time
and it becomes a low priority. And that was for books for the blind not
just a storyhour for the local community. I thank whatever gods may be and
the U.S. Congress every time I choose a book to record now that we no
longer have to go through this lengthy and often fruitless process.
Kami Krenz


- --"If, of all words of tongue and pen, the saddest are 'It might have
been', more sad are these we daily see: It is, but hadn't ought to
be."--Bret Harte, "Mrs. Judge Jenkins"

Kathleen Krenz
Special Services Librarian
Arizona St. Braille & Talking Book Library

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