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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:16:17 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #797
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:38:52 -0500 (EST)
From: KM_SBANGE@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US
Subject: Re: choking hazardous books?
I also ordered those particular board books not knowing that they
had wheels on them. As it turned out, one came in with a wheel broken (I
returned it for credit), but I processed the others. If I remember
correctly, they passed the "toilet tube test" for choking items. As
it turns out, after a few circs, they were coming back with wheels
broken anyway. With some difficulty (I might add), I went ahead and
broke off all of the wheels and they circulate just fine -- although
the novelty of the wheels is gone, the younger vehicle lovers find them
and love them just the same. . .
Stephanie Bange
Children's Librarian
Kettering-Moraine Branch
Dayton & Montgomery County PL
Dayton, OH
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:12:43 -0700
From: Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
Subject: Teen book discussion groups
We had a teen book discussion series this summer for the first time. It was
very successful!
We have 3 YA team members in our Youth Services dept., and each one of us 3
chose 2 books to be discussed. The series ran for 6 weeks on Monday
afternoons from June-July. We served cookies and salty muchies and drinks
to the kids who participated. We sat at tables in a horseshoe or square
shape so everyone had a place to keep their refreshments and their book.
Each teen signed up for one or as many book discussions as they wanted, to
a limit of 15 teens per group. We had 15 copies of each title donated by
our Friends available to give away to participants. When they signed up,
they were told that after they read the book and participated in the
discussion, the book was theirs to keep. We asked for a library card number
and said that if they didn't read and participate, they needed to return
the book in good condition or be charged for it. There were only a few kids
who returned the books--most who signed up did read and participate. We
kept a sign-up list and if someone cancelled we had a waiting list. We did
limit it to 15 thinking that this number would give each teen a chance to
really become part of the discussion; more than that would probably leave
some kids without much chance to say anything. 15 did prove to be a
comfortable number for us.
The books we chose were: Eva by Peter Dickinson; The Bomb by Theodore
Taylor; The Giver by Lois Lowry; Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes; Out
of the Dust by Karen Hesse; and Freak the Mighty by Rodman Philbrick.
Each participant was instructed to read the entire book before coming to
the discussion. YA staff prepared a list of questions for each title. Some
of the books had some printed materials on them available from the
publishers from which we gleaned questions. Each discussion ran for an hour
and a half, and the time just flew! The kids really got into it. Basically,
we threw out questions and let the kids discuss away, with us guiding the
discussion as necessary. We set ground rules that everyone was to be
respectful of everyone else's opinions, and that differences of opinions
were to be expected. An interesting result of this program was some of the
kids had never heard of our YAAC group, and we recruited some new members
from the discussion participants.
The kids finished by begging us to do this again! We probably will, during
spring break and next summer. I highly recommend doing this program! It is
easy and fun. If you need more information, please contact me.
Diane Tuccillo
Senior Librarian/YA Coordinator
Mesa Public Library, AZ
Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
480-644-2735
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:14:00 -0700
From: BOGART Debra S <dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us>
Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason-John Berry's tak e
I suppose I should know better than to enter this debate, but I think it is
important. For me, it always comes back to an editorial written by John
Berry in Library Journal, March 98,(although he was specifically addressing
the Internet and filters debate.) Here are the final three paragraphs:
"...To prevent or "protect" them from discovering even the most
evil
expressions in our midst is to cripple their powers of discrimination, their
ability to criticize, their crucial need to find, see and know good and bad,
so as to be able to choose between them. We cannot really protect anyone
from every expression. Information and opinion, from Madonna's paean to her
genitals to the rantings of skinheads, always come into public view.
We can only isolate children from the awful fullness of our culture and
society, leaving them unprepared to participate in that society and making
the choices to govern it.
We must not deprive them of that knowledge. Nor must we deprive them
of the nurture, the helping hand, the guidance, the tools for seeking truth
and knowing it when it is discovered. We cannot simply turn them loose in
our jaded "information society" without helping them understand that
some of
the "information" is false, is evil, is dangerous, is misleading, or
is
ambiguous. So especially in this freest of societies, we are dutybound to
try to be in loco parentis. That may not be a legal obligation, but it is
clearly a moral duty for every librarian, every teacher, every parent and
person in a free society. If we don't help our children understand the
terrible price of freedom, they are not as likely to keep it as our first
national priority." (John Berry, Library Journal, March 1, 1998)
Which pretty much sums it up for me. Granted, I have nine more
months of work before I "possess" my MLS, and only seven years of
library
experience. But my career is a lot more than simply disseminating
information...
Debra Bogart
My own opinions...
Springfield Public Library
Springfield, OR
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From: Charles Schacht
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 7:09AM
Cathy - if all I did was provide information I wouldn't find my job nearly
as
rewarding as I do now. I labor under the impression that Public Librarians
exist to serve the public, and I believe my public hopes for a little more
from
me than solely performing the informational function. Sometimes opening a
can
of worms is a better choice than your other options, though it without a
doubt
tends to liven things up...
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
Cathy Ormsby wrote:
> Beautifully said, Carol, I couldn't agree more. Once we try to get into
the
> business of "protecting children, nurturing them, providing safe
places,
> teaching them how to grow, et." we open a can of worms, and eventually
fail
> at our unique mission of providing information, as you stated so well.
>
> Cathy Ormsby
> cormsby@ci.sat.tx.us
>
> > ----------
> > From: edwarc@mx.pon.net[SMTP:edwarc@mx.pon.net]
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 7:55 PM
> > To: pubyac@nysernet.org
> > Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
> >
> > Well, I've usually disagreed with you on the protective stance and
kept
my
> > mouth shut about it, I think this time I have to interject something.
> > Libraries are not in the business of protecting children, nurturing
them,
> > providing safe places, teaching them how to grow, etc. We may hope
that
> > some of this occurs as the result of our activities, but it is NOT our
> > business.
> >
> <snip>
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:00:41 +0000
From: christine weichart <weichart@execpc.com>
Subject: school librarian list serves
Hi!
I have just gotten a job at a private religious school as their
librarian. I am looking for listserv's that are for school librarians
. If anyone knows of any, or where I can find the information, I would
really appreciate it.
Thanks.
Christine Weichart
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:28:22 -0500
From: "Marie Noe" <marie.noe@alc.org>
Subject: RE: choking hazardous books?
RE: choking hazard books - wheels on board books...
When we first started providing toddler / board books to our patrons, we had
several of those cute little books with wheels. They held up fairly well.
However... when one of the wheels did pop off I checked it using one of
those choke-tubes. It was amazing how neatly that little wheel fit into the
tube. Needless to say the wheeled books were immediately remove from the
shelves. After looking at the other books in that collection, we also
removed the ones that were shaped like tools and held together with a rivet.
(We had one pop apart and the pieces were small enough to fit the tube.)
Our reasoning behind this action was... The board books are meant to be used
by children who WILL put things in their mouths. If one child chokes to
death because we set these items out for them, that would be one child too
many.
I offer my personal opinion above. What I suggest is that you check with
your legal department and ask what would happen if a child choked on one of
these items.
**********************************************
Marie Noe marie.noe@alc.org
Librarian II (915) 676-6067
Abilene Public Library fax-(915) 738-8082
202 Cedar Street Abilene, TX 79601
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:58:48 -0500
From: "Katy Grant" <imzadi@thepoint.net>
Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
Since, I have come in at the middle of this discussion, I have read some
of the responses to the original as well as the original posting. I'd like
to add my thoughts to the stew pot.
Saying that the position of a Children's Librarian today is a difficult
one is almost an understatement. Although, depending on your particular
system, job descriptions and expectations may vary. For example, some
library systems have open access to the Internet while others curtail its
usage. Noise levels may vary greatly and tolerance to misbehavior may also
have a long measuring stick. However, the one thing that we might all agree
on is the fact that no matter what age the young patron is, both parties
need to demonstrate a certain level of respect for each other.
Unfortunately, with so many of our young people left alone while a parent
works, young people are becoming less apt to see adults as someone with more
wisdom or authority then they have themselves. The attitudes I sometimes
get are 'why do I have to listen to you?' Being an open source for
information and at the same time being the philosophical bouncer is rough.
We balance library policy and our duties, patrons rights, our own attitudes
about children, and our self worth as a person while striving to make it all
come together in one place and make it work.
No, we can't stand in the place of a parent to our young patrons but they
do need to respect our authority when they are in the library as well as the
rights of others. No mean feat to accomplish and no easy answers. I try to
deal with each young patron on the level at which they are on that day. Some
days, it works very well while, others I end feeling as frustrated as the
person with whom I'm trying to make a point.
Katy Grant
West Region Children's Librarian
Shawnee Branch
Louisville, Ky
http://lfpl.org/western/htms/welcome.htm
http://www.ius.indiana.edu/igrant (my homepage)
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:22:26 -0400
From: Serena Butch <SCP_BUTCH@sals.edu>
Subject: YA magazine query
Does anyone out there receive YSB magazine? YSB stands for Young Sisters and
Brothers and is aimed at African American teenagers. If you do get it, is it
circulating well? Any other suggestions for a newish teen magazine...Not
Teen People - we get that already. Reply to me directly. SCP_Butch@sals.edu.
Thanks, Serena Butch.
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:55:26 -0500
From: "Ellen Wall" <ewall@ames.lib.ia.us>
Subject: Crafts Index vs. Multicultural Projects Index
At a the library I formerly worked, I purchased and heavily used Crafts
Index for Young People by Mary Ann Pilger. The library at which I'm
currently working does not own this title or Pilger's more recent
Multicultural Projects Index (2nd ed.). I'd like to purchase both, but
may only be able to afford one. For those of you using both, any
recommendations? Is there lots of overlap, or are they very different?
Is the Multicultural Projects Index strictly holiday related? Thanks
for your input. Please respond to me.
Ellen Harter Wall
Children's Librarian
Ames Public Library
Ames, IA
ewall@ames.lib.ia.us
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:15:36 -0400
From: Amy Lilien <alilien@flvax.ferg.lib.ct.us>
Subject: IBBY Conference: Points of View
Hi!
I am a newly resubscribing member of pubyac, and I am hoping that this
message is appropriate to the list. I am going to the IBBY conference
"Points of View" in Madison Wisconsin and may be looking for a
roommate. I
am a female non-smoker.
If any of you are in the same boat, feel free to e-mail me at
alilien@ferg.lib.ct.us. I apologise if this was improper use of the list.
Thanks,
- --Amy Lilien-Harper
Turn of River Branch, Ferguson Library
Stamford, CT
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:12:33 -0400
From: "Inge Saczkowski" <isaczkow@niagarafalls.library.on.ca>
Subject: Re: choking hazardous books?
We also ordered books with wheels (by mistake!). I was worried about the
same problem, which solved itself almost immedeiately. The books came back
from 1 or 2 circulations absolutely destroyed, wheels missing, book ruined
(from playing car with the book) We discarded the entire collection not a
month after it arrived (about 12 books). Problem solved, though I still
get patrons that ask me when I am getting some new, cute car books (NEVER!)
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:02:02 EDT
From: Paulalef@aol.com
Subject: Re: weeding Fairy tales?
We used to have the same problem. About 10 years ago we started doing
"Chapter Club", a program for school aged kids which starts with
riddles and
jokes provided by the kids and the librarian (kids are told
"admission" is a
riddle or a joke), then a chapter or two of an age-appropriate chapter book,
then longer picture books, folktales and fairy tales. I bring a large stack
in with me and have the kids vote on which ones to read. They always take
all the ones I present, whether they choose them to be read or not, and they
actually fight over them. We put displays of other titles on a table in the
room and kids take those also. Since we've been doing this program, circ on
fairy tales and folk tales has been just fine.
We also present "Fractured Fairy Tales" in the summers for ages 6-9
and
9-12. I choose one tale or theme each week and do it as a comparative
literature program with the kids writing their own versions at the end of
each session. Finished stories are compiled at the end of the summer into
booklets which are distributed to each kid. Again, very successful with good
followup circ. Try it! You may not have to worry so much about weeding!
Paula Lefkowitz
Head, Children's Department
Parsippany (NJ) PL
paulalef@aol.com or lefkowitz@main.morris.org
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:17:10 -0400
From: mellifur@tiac.net
Subject: Boomboxes in the library
Possibly a slightly misleading subject line.
I recently did a survey asking our YA's about our new YA room. One of the
questions was: Is there something missing from this room that you would
like to see? Several kids answered music, and this answer included the idea
of having a boombox in the room so that they could listen to CD's/radio. At
my first TAB meeting, this idea also came up. I'm willing to give this a
try IF we can find a way to secure the boombox and headphones. The
president of our Friends group (which buys a lot of this type of thing for
the library) has asked me to find out a few things before she agrees to
this expenditure:
1) How many libraries supply something like this for their YA's?
2) How does it work for you?
3) What methods have you used to keep the boombox from damage/theft?
Any additional comments would be welcome. We're exploring the
possibilities, so any first-hand accounts would be helpful.
Replies can be sent to the email address above/below, or to my work address
(neiman@glasct.org). The latter would be better, since I could then print
out responses and hand them to her directly. Unfortunately, my work email
currently will not allow me to send emails outside of the library
(::sigh::), so I can not acknowledge receipt. So I will say thanks in
advance to anyone who chooses to use that address.
Thanks,
Miriam Neiman
M. Neiman
mellifur@tiac.net
Welles-Turner Memorial Library
Glastonbury, CT
http://www.wtmlib.com
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my organization.
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:52:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: theresa robinett <theresart@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter Book Talk
For the past year I have done a parent child book group with great
success. I give the books out to the group a month in advance and then
we meet and discuss the current one. Most of the readers are in the
4/5th grades, but we do have a couple of middle schoolers. It has
really been a rewarding experience to work with this group and watch
them stretch and grow and bond with each other in a new and positive
way. Harry Potter is a good place to start one of these groups and I
urge you to continue on. Have fun!
Theresa Robinett
Children's Librarian
Glendale Public Library
Glendale, Cay
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:48:07 +0000
From: "Kimberly Norris" <Knorris@acpl.lib.in.us>
Subject: (Fwd) Library card stickers
Cheryl:
I love the little catalog put out by Rivershore Reading Store.
2005 32nd street Rock Island, IL 61201
(309) 788-7717
e'mail:
rivershore@earthlink.net
They have a whole variety of "i've visited the library" stickers,
bookmarks, etc.
Kimberly Norris, Children's Librarian
Library_Lady@webtv.net
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:04:22 -0500
From: cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us
Subject: Free Expression
I must also go in Chuck's direction on this one. Carol Edwards stated that
"Libraries are not in the business of protecting children, nurturing them,
providing safe places, teaching them how to grow, etc...We provide access to
information. Period." If that was my job description, I'd be a
pretty
lousy Children's Librarian. Providing access to information is just one of
the many things I do in my job. We have rules in our library like no
running or standing on furniture and using scissors at the reference desk
only. These rules are designed to protect children and provide a safe
environment not just for themselves, but for others as well. We nurture
and
teach them how to grow through our programming. We spend hours choosing
materials for storytime and other special programs because we are choosing
age appropriate, nurturing, educational materials. We spend months
creating
challenging and fun summer reading programs for the same reasons. If all I
did was provide access to information I would not spend time with programs
or booklists or good websites for kids. I also might not care about a kid
who says a strange man is cornering them in the stacks, or they can't find
their mother.
As a Children's Librarian am I in the business of protecting children,
providing safe places, teaching them how to grow? You bet! And of
course
there is a balance as I am not the parent but I do more than just provide
access to information and that is why I love my job.
Charlene Witek
*Opinions Expressed Are My Own and May Not Reflect Those of My Employer*
Charlene Witek, MLS
Children's Librarian
Park Ridge Public Library
Park Ridge, IL 60068
(847)825-4527
FAX (847) 825-0001
mailto:cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:10:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Holley J Varley <varleyho@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Graphic novels
Hi Pubyaccers,
We are collecting more and more graphic novels in our 10 branch public
library system. Currently, most of these are classified as juvenile
fiction, but the audience is teen (YA). They seem to get lost with the
juvenile chapter books. I'm not sure they would fare much better
interfiled with YA novels.
How do you classify these books in your libraries? How do you shelf or
display? Please reply directly to me and I will post to the list if there
is interest.
Holly Varley
Clermont County Public Library
varleyho@oplin.lib.oh.us
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:19:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peg Dombek <pdombek@spl.org>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #794
Flannel board story information can be found in several "great" books
by
Judy Sierra. She encourages folks to make copies of her materials & so
everyone is empowered & can create wonderful flannel board presentations.
Peg
Peg Dombek
Lifelong Learning/Young Adult
Seattle Public Library
206-364-4115
peg.dombek@spl.org
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:48:48 -0400
From: hunzigel@hhpl.on.ca (Lisa Hunziger)
Subject: Halloween Costumes
Halloween is approaching, and at our library we are looking for ideas
for costumes that the Children's staff can wear during programs. I know
this was discussed last year on PUBYAC, but unfortunately I didn't keep
the postings, and the archives are inaccessible. If anyone has any
ideas on book-related costumes that adult staff could create simply and
quickly to wear during programs, I would appreciate it. Please email me
directly.
Thanks in advance. Lisa Hunziger
hunzigel@hhpl.on.ca
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:35:38 PDT
From: "Elizbeth O'Brien" <elizbetho@hotmail.com>
Subject: special days
Hello!
I often see people mentioning special days such as National Chocolate Chip
Cookie Day and National Sandwich Day in their postings. Is there a calendar
that lists all of these special days?
Elizabeth O'Brien
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:10:53 EDT
From: Paulalef@aol.com
Subject: Re: choking hazardous books?
We've had some of these over the years. They actually hold up very well - as
many as 100 circs or more. The wheels never came off. That's not to say
yours won't though. Can you check with your lawyer about liability?
Paula Lefkowitz
Head, Children's Department
Parsippany (NJ) PL
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:03:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
Subject: Re: Parenting collections
Speaking of adult books in the children's section...we also have our adult
fiction division bring over some popular titles for a book dump in our
children's area so busy parents can pick up something to read while they
are collecting books for their toddlers and preschoolers. It seems
popular. Often busy parents don't have time to go to the adult divisions
to do their own browsing because they have little ones in tow. And, as we
all know, the best way to instill the reading habit in little ones is if
they see adults reading too! - jeri
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Arnet,Janet wrote:
> In my library I don't have a parenting collection in the children's
library,
> what I do is have some display shelves in the children's on which I put a
> selection of parenting books, videos, and magazines, from the 300's and
> 600's and then point people in the direction of the rest of the collection.
>
>
>
> Janet Arnet
> Children's Services Librarian
> Rotorua Public Library, NZ
> Janet.Arnet@rdc.govt.nz
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:52:45 -0700
From: michael crosby <mdcrosby@earthlink.net>
Subject: Filtering Monster hits LA
I hate to say this but the Los Angeles County Supervisors have asked
Sandra Reuben, the County Librarian to come up with some kind of
filtering system to help "protect" our children when they use the
internet while at the library.
Currently, we use a parent consent application form in which they must
sign in our presence. We also have privacy screens on both of our
terminals. Our library has had no problem with pornography, and we are
pretty upset about this. It's all political, and it scares me.
Michael Crosby
Children's Librarian, La Canada Flintridge Public Library
mdcrosby@earthlink.com
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:14:40 GMT
From: "Rebecca Smith" <rsps@hotmail.com>
Subject: food for thought:violence in the media
I don't have an answer to this, but in regards to children copying violence
they see on tv, My 19 month old son will see the Tellytubbies gving each
other a hug, and then he will come over and give me a hug, if they are
standing on one leg, he will try to stand on one leg. What if they hit each
other, would he copy that, too?
BTW he does occasionally hit me when he's upset anyway, though he's never
seen it. Would viewing it on tv reinforce this?
Also, we've just elminated TV in our house completely for the time being,
which has eliminated a lot of whining and increased our book reading!
*********
Rebecca S. Smith, MLS
San Diego Public Library
Branch Libraries Division
rsps@hotmail.com
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:32:02 -0400
From: "Mary K. Chelton" <mchelton@pop.erols.com>
Subject: shameless self-promotion #2
As I said the last time I did this, one of the joys of getting tenure
is having to publish in referreed journals that are not read very
much by practitioners, (or by all segments of practitioners), so
while this is not strictly true of this journal. if anybody's
interested, I have another dissertation spin-off in the current
Reference and User Services Quarterly, 38 (Spring, 1999): 275-282.
It's called "Structural and Theoretical Constraints on Reference
Service in a High School Library Media Center."
For those who can only deal with downloading, it's not on a website.
You have to get it the old-fashioned way.
Mary K.
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Graduate School of Library & Information Studies
Queens College
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:17:31 -0500
From: "Katy Grant" <imzadi@thepoint.net>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter Book Talk
Anne,
I have tried book discussions at my library branch and they haven't
worked as well as we had hoped. We had a grant that allowed us to purchase
50 copies each of the three books we were going to discuss to give to the
kids. We had a few children come to the three sessions we had but rarely had
they read to book and most often each time we had different children
attending.
Now with this said, I have had better luck with working inside the school
system directly with a specific teacher. I am trying again this year with a
middle school.
I like your idea of reading the first chapter to the kids and then having
them read the rest on their own. The proposal I gave to the co-ordiantor at
the middle school was that I would visit a class read a bit of a book with
the kids, while the teacher might read some to them leaving the balance to
be read by the students. I said, she might have some students interested
enough to read parts of the book to the class as well. Set a time limit for
the reading to be completed and then I would come back and discuss
characters, plot and whatever else the students wanted to talk about in
regards to the book. We also talked about sharing the reading between the
teacher and myself in the case of students who have some difficulties with
reading, then discussing it with the class.
If your interested in Harry Potter you might check out Storyworks magazine
from Scholastic. September's issue has a short play written on a 4th grade
level for kids.
Katy Grant
West Region Children's Librarian
Shawnee Branch
Louisville, KY 40211
http://lfpl.org/western/htms/welcome.htm
http:/www.ius.indiana.edu/igrant
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:32:57 +0000
From: rdhall@mail.cinetwork.com
Subject: Harry Potter Book Talk
I would like to have a book discussion group and have never done one before
and need your suggestions. Do we read the first chapter (s) together,
discuss them and then finish the book at home? Or do we give the books to
kids, have them read them at home and then meet to discuss it? I am
wanting to start a group and thought Harry Potter would be a good
beginning. Do you have problems getting the kids to return for the next
program? Any suggestions on follow up type of activities to this book?
Right now, I am thinking about having a magician come teach kids some magic
tricks. Also, do you limit the number of students? Any words of wisdom
would be greatly appreciated.
Anne Hall
Anne & Roger Hall
Berea, Kentucky
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:53:49 -0500
From: "Katy Grant" <imzadi@thepoint.net>
Subject: RE: pubyac V1 #795
Jennifer,
How old are the books you have? You might try ordering a few newer
editions of your favorites.
Have you trying having a series of storytimes based on Fairy Tales? There
are a variety of ways you can share your favorite tales while telling your
adult participants that this is only one version. I have at least one first
grade teacher who does a unit on Fairy Tales each year. Helping to come up
with different ways to share the tales, puppets to make, creative dramatics
ideas and crafts has been fun.
Katy Grant
West Region Children's Librarian
Shawnee Branch
Louisville, KY
http://lfpl.org/western/htms/welcome.htm
http://www.ius.indiana.edu/igrant
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:46:57 -0500
From: Jennifer McQuilkin <hzz006@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: weeding Fairy tales?
Fellow Pubyacers--
Between SRP and school starting I am weeding our Juvenile (4-8 gr.)
nonfiction. I am a ruthless weeder, but when it comes to folktales,
fairytales etc. I am a wimp. We are a small one site location and don't
have space for the collection we have. Any tips, guidelines, suggestions?
Let me add that for the past year we have done displays, tie ins with
movies, bookmarks to daycares,
teachers and the local storytelling guild. We even put a fairy tale
castle up hoping to draw kids attention. These puppies are not moving--but
as a storyteller each one is a gem to me. Any ideas for moving them either
circulating them or weeding ? I am using children's catalog.
Jennifer
Jennifer McQuilkin Children's Librarian, Joplin Public Library
300 S. Main St. Email hzz006@mail.connect.more.net
Joplin, MO 64801-2384 (417)623-7953 phone, (417)624-5217 fax
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:58:19 -0500
From: Dana Estes <de2345@tds.net>
Subject: RE: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
That line quoted from the Bible only goes on to further prove my point that
evil has and always will exist in this world. Putting the blame on
entertainment is only taking the easy way out.
Dana Estes
Library assistant
Hancock Public Library
Hawesville,KY
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:47:23 -0700
From: Carol Kubala <ckubala@freewwweb.com>
Subject: Library Stickers
Hi,
I am looking for a supplier of stickers that read "I got my library card
today". We had some of these stickers which I can only describe as being
about 3" circles in bright pink. We'd like to purchase more to give out
when kids get their first library card. Our young patrons love them!
I've looked in Demco, ALA, and Smilemakers. Do these ring a bell with
anyone?
Carol Kubala
Columbia, CT/Saxton B. Little Free Library
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:06:45 -0500
From: Cathy Ormsby <COrmsby@ci.sat.tx.us>
Subject: RE: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
But, Chuck, how do we get into the minds of every parent and every child who
comes through our door? That's what I mean by "opening a can of
worms".
For example, several years ago, when I was just starting out, I recommended
"The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" to a parent for her child,
because
she wanted "Christian" stories. I was told in no uncertain terms by
her
that she did not consider that book to be Christian, because it had to do
with witches, etc. etc. Do I then argue with her and try to convince her?
I don't claim to have all the answers to these situations, and rest
assured, in providing information, I customize my service to match the needs
of the individual patron as closely as possible. I do not equate belief in
intellectual freedom with blindly leading children to any resource at all,
but I do place the primary nurturing responsibility on parents and
caregivers. My professional responsibility is to provide reference
services, reader's advisory, and to promote literacy by offering meaningful
programs for parents, caregivers, and children.
Cathy
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:42:58 -0700
From: Piper Cowan <pcowan@snap.lib.ca.us>
Subject: trivia contest for kids
A call for advice from the Collective Brain:
Our county library system hosts an annual trivia bee that is one of the
highlights of the year. This time around we in the children's department
volunteered to do a similar program for school-aged kids. However, we have
quickly realized that a similar format (the adults work in small groups -
all groups are given the same question at the same time, they write their
answer on a sign and hold them up simultaneously, all groups with the
correct answer earn points) may not work well with mixed age and ability
kids.
Has anyone done a program like this before (I attempted to search the
archives, but could not)? If anyone would like to pass on their
experiences, helpful hints, suggestions, etc. any info would be greatly
appreciated. Respond to me directly and I will post collected data.
Thanks in advance -
Piper (pcowan@snap.lib.ca.us)
Children's Librarian
Fairfield/Suisun Community Library
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:34:50 -0400
From: Sue Albert <skalbert@dreamscape.com>
Subject: Birthday Party Storytime
Thanks so much to all who sent suggestions, ideas, and best wishes about
the birthday party storytime outside the library. This was my first
question to PUBYAC and I was overwhelmed by the wonderful response.
I have decided to go ahead with it. The party is not scheduled until late
September. The mother and I have agreed on a fee of $35 for a 20 minute
program.
Due to the copyright restriction, I have decided to use only my own puppet
stories, flannelgraphs, active songs, and participation stories.
It turns out that all the guests are "regulars" at my in-library
storytimes, so I know them all well, and feel very comfortable doing this
with them.
Thanks again for the overwhelming response. You guys are great!
Sue
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Susan K. Albert, MLS
Onondaga County Public Library, Mundy Branch
1204 S. Geddes Street
Syracuse, NY 13204
skalbert@dreamscape.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:12:15 -0400
From: "Jackie Howard" <jhoward@ican.net>
Subject: Weeding: Folk & Fairy Tales
Dear Jennifer,
In what was the 'old Toronto Public Library'** system, different libraries
became responsible for developing specialized collections. For example, the
largest storytelling collection is at the Lillian H. Smith library; the
Native collection is at the Spadina branch, and the Black Heritage
collection is at Parkdale. This enabled other libraries in the system to
weed their folklore sections. It also ensured that valuable folklore
materials remained somewhere in the system.
In one or two libraries I've used, they've kept their folklore 'overflow' in
the stacks. However, they freely allowed local storytellers and other
responsible adults into the stacks to browse and to do research.
Nowadays, I do most of my 'storytelling browsing' through the online catalog
and then place holds on the materials I need. This way, it doesn't matter
to me as a user where books are stored as long as they're in the library
when I go in to pick them up.
As a library user, I would be very sad if my local library decided to weed
their folktale collection. However, one of the ways I've built my own
storytelling collection has been trough buying 'library discards'. So if
you must weed, please approach your local storytellers and give them a
chance to purchase what you can no longer handle.
I hope this information will be useful to you. Thank you very much for the
question. I would love to hear how you resolve this problem in the long
run.
Sincerely,
Jackie Howard
Toronto Canada
**Two years ago, the five or six library systems within Metro Toronto
merged. The 'new' Toronto Public Library system is now one of the largest
in North America.
P.S. I had written a lengthy response on why I think children cannot be
drawn to this collection but decided to spare you my opinions. I am a
Storyteller, Children's Librarian and Social Worker, and your question sent
me down a path of new discovery and thought. Thanks again.
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