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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:40:58 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #812
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:34:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
Subject: Re: Still more on weeding fairy tales
Hooray! That's the best news I've heard in a long, long time!! With a
collection as large as ours (over 150 tightly packed shelves of j398's) we
just know we have gems that are impossible to get into our customers
hands. I'm doing a little happy dance about this news...I really am!
Thanx for passing it along. - jeri
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Betsy Bybell wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I thought you might be interested to learn that the supplement to the
> _Storyteller's Sourcebook_ is due to come out by the end of 2000. Margaret
> Read MacDonald says it will NOT replace the original sourcebook, but is a
> SUPPLEMENT covering 1983-1999 and will be co-authored by Margaret Read
> MacDonald and Brian Sturm.
>
> Betsy Bybell
> Branch Coordinator, Latah County Library
> 110 S. Jefferson, Moscow ID 83843
> 208-882-3925, fax 208-882-5098
> email: bbybell@norby.latah.lib.id.us
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:23:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: georgi sandgren <ivylane3@yahoo.com>
Subject: football non-fiction for younger readers
Can anyone give me some good suggestions for football
non-fiction titles for children ages 4-7? I've
checked Amazon.com, and almost all of those titles are
really more appropriate for older readers, not
beginning or non-readers. We have midget football in
our town and some of the players are coming in and
looking for such titles.
I'll post the suggestions I get to the list if there's
interest.
TIA,
Georgi Sandgren
East Islip Public Library
Long Island, New York
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Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:31:46 -0600
From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
Subject: Re: CD ROM Games
We have several Magic School Bus and the Living Books series and they =
all seem to do fine with Fortress. (Alhto I'm not the person that =
installs them).
Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene Co. P.L.
Bloomfield, IN
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:16:38 PDT
From: "Cheryl Marcotte" <fuschia27@hotmail.com>
Subject: ice crem flannel board story
Hi. Recently someone posted a flannel board story about a child buying ice
cream. I lost the message and would like to ask if someone could mail it to
my personal address. Thank You.
Cheryl Marcotte
Youth Services Librarian
De Witt Public Library, MI
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:24:17 -0400
From: "Hudson, Sarah" <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>
Subject: RE: Back to School Crafts needed
Our talented Children's folks created a school bus using a cardboard egg
carton.
You paint the egg carton with yellow paint and glue construction paper
wheels
on the side.
Sarah
Sarah Hudson
Information Specialist
Independence Regional Library
Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County
shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us
Opinions are my own, and do not reflect those of the Library
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:55:51 -0400
From: Barbara Haymann-Diaz <bhaymann-diaz@poklib.org>
Subject: Re: Baby storytimes
Read Mother Goose Time by Jane Marino.
We started a program for walkers and pre-walkers up to age 24 months based
on it. It's been very successful.
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:46:08 -0500
From: Berry <jamesasbury@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: An Appeal to Reason
Dana Estes wrote:
> Be aware but don't smother your children.
I believe it is possible to mother and still not smother.
- --
Berry
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:59:28 -0400
From: "The Baker's" <bakernj@cbpu.com>
Subject: Re: Toys
Darcy:
Our library has a tiny table for preschoolers with a giant
wooden bead maze attached to it. The kids love it!
We also have educational giant jigsaw puzzles, blocks,
and several little push cars and trucks to play with.
We are a small library, so, our space is very limited.
Nola Baker
Children's Services
Branch District Library
Coldwater, MI
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:30:58 -0700
From: "Kathy Tyson" <kathyt@lvccld.lib.nv.us>
Subject: Re: Stumper:Dear America-like Cleopatra story
Hi!
I just happened to see an ad for this! The creators of the "Dear
America" books have a new series called "The Royal Diaries" The
ad that
I have in front of me lists:
"Cleopatra VII: Daughter of the Nile" by Kristiana Gregory
(ISBN: 0-590-81975-5), $10.95
"Elizabeth I: Red Rose of the House of Tudor" by Kathryn Lasky
(ISBN: 0-590-68484-1), $10.95
Hope that this is what your patron was looking for!
Kathy T
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:20:21 -0500
From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: Banned Books Week Press Kit
A Banned Books Week Press Kit is available online at
http://www.ala.org/pio/presskits/bbwkit/
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American Library Association
Office for Intellectual Freedom
50 East Huron Street
Chicago, IL 60611
800-545-2433, ext. 4225
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:00:54 -0500
From: Karen Sutherland <ksutherland@bplib.org>
Subject: Re: Toys
Hi!
We have a few stuffed animals and several stacks of wooden puzzles.
Being a small library we don't have lots of extra space. I personally
think that our job is not to provide
toys for children to play with but to provide books for them to read. It
has also been my
experience that some of those wooden toys with the wires with beads on
are extremely
dangerous, especially when they are left in the middle of the aisles as
children so often do.
People can come walking and don't see them or running and fall over
them. It really isn't
the best thing.
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:22:30 -0400
From: Patricia Connor <pconnor@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Stumper:Dear America-like Cleopatra story
Erica Sternin wrote:
>
> A patron wants the "Dear America book about Cleopatra". It
doesn't sound
> like something that would BE in the Dear America series.... And I can't
find
> anything in our system or on Amazon.com that seems close. Does anyone have
> an idea what she might be thinking of? She said it's been out a few years.
>
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Erica - Scholastic has a new series similiar to the Dear America series
called Royal Diary. One is titled: Cleopatra VII: Daughter of the Nile.
It is written by Kristiana Gregory. The other title that is now
available is about Elizabeth I. Hope this helps.
Pat Connor
Maplewood Community Library
Rochester, NY
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:26:42 PDT
From: "children johnson city public library" <jcplkids@hotmail.com>
Subject: teen volunteers
I am interested if finding out how those of you who have teen
volunteers schedule them to work. We started the volunteer program in June
to have extra help for our summer reading program and to get teens involved
in the library. During the summer they signed up for a two hour block.
That worked fairly well. However, it seemed that there were times they got
bored just waiting for patrons to come in. Now that we don't have a set job
for them to do, I am not sure how I want to schedule them.
Also, if you could share some of the tasks you have teens do I would be
greatly appreciative. I want them to feel they are needed and not just
wasting time. You may e-mail me directly to jcplkids@hotmail.com. TIA for
all your suggestions.
Betty Cobb
Johnson City Public Library
Johnson City, TN
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:31:26 -0400
From: Molly L Chatt Crandall <chattcrandall@juno.com>
Subject: Pajama story hours
Hello all, I am in a bit of a bind, and I hope you can help! I am
scheduled to begin doing a preschool pajama story hour next week (kids
come at night dressed in their jammies with their teddy bears), and I was
wondering if you had any favorite bedtime-theme songs, fingerplays,
stories, etc. to share with me. I have been home sick for the past week
and haven't been able to plan it!
Also, unrelated to the p.j. storyhour, but does anyone have any good
craft ideas for K - 2nd grades on reptiles (any snakes, turtles, lizards,
crocodiles would be great) I'd appreciate any help, all my planning and
craft books are at the library and I'm stuck home with bronchitis.
Thanks in advance!
Molly Chatt Crandall
Youth Services Librarian
Ontario Public Library
Ontario, NY
chattcrandall@juno.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:15:53 -0400
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: [online article] trouble at Amazon.com
I second that.... even if there is a corporate superstore in your area, the
independents are wonderful.
Knowledgeable staff, willing to have an opinion about books that they read.
Willing to help find obscure things.
They deserve out support every day and not just when the on-line megastore
or the local superstore don't have what we are looking for.
Bina Williams
former independent bookseller.
p.s. This fall, the American Booksellers Association is launching
BookSense.com, an alternative on-line store for books. The orders will be
funneled to the closest participating independent store to the customer.
This is an exciting time for independents...
If you go to the website now, you can sign on to be notified when the
program is up and running.
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From: PKG427@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 10:41 PM
To: a.kwun@auckland.ac.nz
Cc: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: Re: [online article] trouble at Amazon.com
Why don't we all just switch to our local independent bookstores which are
being killed by superstores - on-line and physical.
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 99 11:01:48 -0800
From: "" <edwarc@mx.pon.net>
Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
I promised someone I'd stop spouting, but this is just too irresistible.
Let's all be comfortable. I'll draw the line, where I am comfortble, and you can
where you are, and the next 900 people where they're comfortable and then we'll
all be so comfortable. My shoulders feel better already.
Tiny little hang-up may occur when someone has a different expectation of where
comfort should be. Like a long way be fore graphic pornography. I'm a little
strange, but I'm a lot more comfortable with graphic pornography than I am with
graphic violence ala the evening news, professional wrestling and "Pulp
Fiction." (All right, I liked the movie, I just didn't like the violence.)
Could it be that libraries and librarians are not the appropriate places or
people to be drawing the lines? Could it be that this is a task for society via
our legal insitutions? We have copyright laws, we have slander laws, we have
other limits to the first amendment which librarians usually follow and respect?
I am not saying there should be no lines drawn, just that libraries are in a
different business. Information access, documents, images, words, whatever. If
it's legal we provide it. I don't see this as revolutionary or difficult.
Someone has said that we have children's rooms and that implies a safety
feature. I disagree. I think we have children's room like we have Dewey numbers
and subject headings-- to make things more accessible. We have expertise in
children's materials so we can provide better access.
Our training is not in being good moral citizens who can make expert judgments
about what is good for kids or adults. It is in making the world of ideas,
stories and information available to the public--everyone.
Carol Edwards
edwarc@pon.net
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:39:11 -0700
From: "Jill Olson" <jilolson@kcls.org>
Subject: RE: Stumper--help with storytime themes
Apologies to everyone. I thought I had included our web address in my
message but see that I didn't. You can find the child care and preschool
theme links at:
http://www.kcls.org/webkids/chresour.html
Comments and suggestions welcome!
____________________________________________
Jill Olson
Youth Services Outreach Librarian
King County Library System
300 Eighth Avenue North
Seattle, Washington 98109
Phone: 206-684-6623
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pubyac@nysernet.org [mailto:owner-pubyac@nysernet.org]On
> Behalf Of Jill Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 2:15 PM
> To: pubyac@nysernet.org
> Subject: RE: Stumper--help with storytime themes
>
>
> King County Library System recently added the contents of our preschool
> themed boxes "Books to Grow On" to our webpage. These boxes
> contain picture
> books, fingerplays and activities on a curriculum sheet, and sometimes a
> video, audiocassette or CD, and realia (toy, puppet, puzzle, etc.) The
> "Resources for Child Care Providers" page also has links to child
care
> websites, including theme units for preschoolers. Hopefully, many of you
> will find these web pages and links useful in program planning.
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> Jill Olson
> Youth Services Outreach Librarian
> King County Library System
> 300 Eighth Avenue North
> Seattle, Washington 98109
> Phone: 206-684-6623
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:40:52 -0500
From: Berry <jamesasbury@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: An Appeal to Reason
Cathy Ormsby wrote:
>
> > You say censorship is wrong, then turn around and say it is okay to
censor
> > our own children.
> >
> YES! That's the whole point of the discussion!
Point is, if censorship is wrong, no if, ands, or buts, then it is wrong,
regardless who is doing it. Obviously, from your comments and that of others, it
isn't ALWAYS wrong.
> Parents or legal
> guardians have every right to censor their minor children. No adult -
> librarian or patron - has the right to censor materials from adults or from
> other people's children.
I respectfully disagree. I contend that as a person concerned with the
well-being of children that I have every right in the world to block access to
sites such as the one I mentioned in my earlier post. Indeed, not just a right,
but a responsibility. I refuse to believe that anyone on this list really
believes any differently. If anyone walked by a computer where a 10 year old
child was viewing such material, that person would do something about it.
> It is so easy to select as examples the horrible,
> pornographic materials which no one in their right mind would want any
child
> to see, but censorship does not end with the obvious
And that is my one and only point: there is material on the Net, easily
accessible to all, that no one in his or her right mind would want any child to
see. Therefore, it is acceptable to deny access to it by children, and on
children's area computers.
> I believe that we can assist parents and provide
> whatever help we can without trampling on the First Amendment. Saying that
> it is appropriate for parents to censor the reading/viewing/surfing of
their
> own minor children is not at all inconsistent with the First Amendment.
And neither is providing them with the tools to do that censoring.
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999
From: PUBYAC <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
Subject: PUBYAC MUST MOVE!
Dear PUBYACkers,
Last week I received word from Nysernet that they no longer want to host
the PUBYAC listserver. I moved PUBYAC to Nysernet in 1993 from the
University of Pittsburgh's School of Library Science, which was a positive move
for
the listserver, since Nysernet offered accessible archives. However,
Nysernet has since become affliated with a for profit company, and they
are changing their focus. They need to get our traffic off of their
server.
So, to continue PUBYAC, I am looking for a new home for PUBYAC to live
free of charge. PUBYAC receives 100-150 messages each day, most of which
are error messages or bounces. 10-30 messages are sent out to
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PUBYAC has been continuously providing professional help and advice to
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If your institution would be interested in hosting PUBYAC, in having this
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Other concerns are:
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Since moderator lives in North America, the server should reside
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