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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:28:09 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: pubyac V1 #847
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:40:07 -0400
From: Catherine Quattlebaum <quattlec@mail.wilkes.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: super-religious anti-Potter discussion
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Chuck, et al:
I don't think anybody in this discussion has turned parenthood into a
sacred cow. If we're steering the discussion into the realm of child
abuse, neglect, etc., then we're not talking about parental rights
anymore, and we're definitely not talking about ANYTHING to do with
Harry Potter! I think I've said it once before; they're wonderful
books, but there's no such thing as a Harry Potter emergency. So that
might not be the best example you could use to reinforce your argument.
And, on the subject of parent "clones," my parents always supervised
my
reading to the point of absurdity. And I'm totally not their clone.
I'm not saying I think their choices were always right, but it didn't
kill me, and I didn't end up oppressed. In fact, it REALLY whet my
appetite for those books later in life! Please remember, we're talking
about fiction. It's enriching, it's stimulating, it's art, but it's not
tantamount to child abuse for parents to pick and choose. I'm sorry,
but it's not, no matter how vehemently we disagree with their choices.
BTW, my name keeps ending up at the bottom of a post on this subject,
attached to something I copied and cut into a message of my own. It
looks misleading. Those aren't my words. Just wanted to throw that out
for the record.
Thanks for hearing me out. Wonderful forum for discussion, this...
- --catherine q.
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:50:09 -0400
From: "Deborah Brightwell" <dbright@ci.coppell.tx.us>
Subject: Re: Book topics
I've had patrons ask me for books about their babies giving up their pacifiers
and bottles. The only ones I've found on this that we have are the Bye Bye
Muppet Babies series.
Debbie Brightwell
Children's Librarian
Coppell Public Library
Coppell, Tx
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:34:52 -0700
From: Shelly Collins <scollins@ci.eau-claire.wi.us>
Subject: Re: Book topics
I've said it a million times! There are not even close to enough train
picture books. Parents are constantly asking, and while Donald Crews is
great, everyone needs a little variety!
>What books would you like to see written? What topics do patrons ask for =
>that you can't seem to find?
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:32:42 -0500
From: "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>
Subject: Re: ALA Removes Farrakhan Website After FF Notifies ADL
I'm confused. This about censorship? Isn't it?
David Burt -- Filtering Facts wrote:
> * ALA Removes Farrakhan Website After FF Notifies ADL
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:01:23 -0600 (CST)
From: lochwouters@axp.winnefox.org
Subject: Re: November storytime with "company/guests" theme
I can't resist sending my favorite activity I do with preschoolers that
relates to the concet of "guests". I use this when introducing them to
the concept of library book borrowing and it gets the point across in a
very fun way.
As the kids gather in a group (whether a for a tour or storytime) among
the picture book shelves, I ask them who the books belong to: "me?; the
library?...nope they belong to YOU! (BIG eyes and smiles here) Did you
know you owned so many books? And the books belong not only to you but
all the kids in Menasha - the babies and school kids and even the
grown-ups too! They're all yours! BUT......"
....you have to share them with everyone because everyone owns them
together. So when you use your library card to bring a book home, its
just going for a visit to your house. When your friends come to visit or
an aunt or an uncle or a grandparent, do they usually stay forever?
(well, mostly they don't) NO! They come for a little visit and laugh and
talk and maybe play a little and then they head back to where they live.
That's how it is with the books. They live here at the library but they
LOVE to visit you at your house. They don't stay forever at your house,
they just stay for a few weeks and then you bring them back and find more
book friends to visit with you."
"And all you need to have the books visit you is a card.."
This is paraphrased because the whole time you talk to preschoolers they
are talking right back at you. Its a fun way without getting into
details to intro the concept of a book loan and to to talk about
something that relates to their own experience of having a visitor and
guest (later if we are talking about the right way to treat a book, we
talk about how to treat book guests "right" at your house). And it
seems
to work everytime. Marge L-W
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Marge Loch-Wouters | Email: lochwouters@winnefox.org
Menasha's Public Library | lochwout@athenet.net
Elisha D. Smith Public Library | Phone: (920)967-5165
Menasha, WI 54952-3191 | Fax: (920)967-5159
www.focol.org/~mpl
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:41:15 EDT
From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
Subject: How to find new series books
To get a heads up on new series check out Baker and Taylor's Hot Picks
catalog or Books for Growing Minds (also Baker and Taylor). Also try keeping
an ear to the ground, the kids will talk about new series. It doesn't hurt
from time to time to wander around the children's or YA section of a large
bookstore to see if there are any new series out there. Hope that helps!
Ilene Lefkowitz
Youth Services Librarian
Mount Olive Public Library
ILefkowitz@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:46:35 -0500
From: Melissa Foster <mfoster@post.bham.lib.al.us>
Subject: Re: Keychain library cards
Our system went to the key chain cards last year and the patrons absolutely
love them! Our kids put their cards on a necklace and wear them when they come
to the library.
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:13:12 -0700
From: "Look, Lin" <llook@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
Subject: RE: Book topics
Non-fiction books about the platypus! Especially in hardcover!!! I know
Mondo press puts a paperback one out, but it disappears on the shelf.
I usually get one or two handwriting questions (teach their kids to write
neatly) a year. I refer them to teacher supply stores, but I remember an
OLD picture book (mice ice skating) that was semi-amusing
Washing hands.
Lin
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:36:19 -0700
From: "Jill Olson" <jilolson@kcls.org>
Subject: RE: thanksgiving toddler ideas
An easy craft for toddlers is making "pumpkin pie". Cut 2 paper
circles:
one white or off-white for the crust, one slightly smaller, of brown, for
the filling. Smear some gluestick glue on the brown piece, and sprinkle on
pumpkin pie spice. Glue the two pieces together and you have a
pleasant-smelling reminder of the holiday.
____________________________________________
Jill Olson
Youth Services Outreach Librarian
King County Library System
300 Eighth Avenue North
Seattle, Washington 98109
Phone: 206-684-6623
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:23:21 -0600
From: "Renee J. Vaillancourt" <rvail@missoula.lib.mt.us>
Subject: latchkey children
This message is being cross-posted to PUBLIB and PUBYAC.
Please excuse any duplication.
I am writing a couple of chapters of the revised "Latchkey Children
in the Public Library" book for PLA/ALSC (divisions of ALA) and
would appreciate information that anyone would be willing to share
on the following topics:
- - programs and practices for latchkey children
- - evaluation tools for latchkey children programs
- - public relations, communication and education of the public
regarding latchkey children
I have searched the archives under "latchkey children" and
"unattended children" - thanks to all who have already contributed
on these topics.
I'd be happy to summarize results to the list if there is sufficient
interest. TIA!
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Renee J. Vaillancourt
Assistant Director
Missoula (MT) Public Library
rvail@missoula.lib.mt.us
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:52:36 -0400
From: Simpson <jsimpson03@snet.net>
Subject: Re: old songs
Hi-
That song, plus lots of others, can be found at
<www.guidezone.skl.com/songs5.htm>
Martha Simpson, Stratford (CT) Library
Karen Sutherland wrote:
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> Hi!
>
> A patron is asking for the words to two old songs (40s-50s).
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:57:04 -0400
From: "Sylvia Leigh Lambert" <leighladidah@gurlmail.com>
Subject: Distance learning and the like
Hi all,
Today our City Librarian said that he'd be very supportive of one's seeking
extra 'training' via the internet. Do any of you know of any distance learning
programs/workshops/training/courses/classes/seminars/
etc. (free or inexpensive preferred, but I'll consider otherwise)) on:
a.) Children's Literature
b.) Y.A. Lit.
c.) Dewey Decimal System
d.) Reference materials--tried and true (and popular) resources/books/documents,
etc.
Thanks,
Leigh Lambert (who is still compiling her story time lists.)
My e-mail address is leighladidah@gurlmail.com
get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 01:18:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: McLean <kmclea@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Favorite Electronic Resource
My favorite is AskJeeves.com :)
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:44:34 -0800 (AKDT)
From: SHERIF SUE _ <fsss@aurora.uaf.edu>
Subject: Re: Newbery winners poster
Did you try Follett? Sue Sherif
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Renee Wolford wrote:
> Does anyone know where to order a poster of the Newbury awards? I have
tried
> ALA, Econo-clad, and
> several publishers.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 06:28:07 -0400
From: "Capehart" <capehart@net1plus.com>
Subject: RE: KidsCat
Hello
While trying not to exaggerate or sound too negative, I must say that I
would rather chew on glass than deal with our Kidscat terminals and their
problems. (realize that we might have an older version than those singing
its praises, but then again maybe not). We are in the process of
"migrating"
from CARL to III (Innovative) and the change all of us in the children's
room (patrons and staff alike) are happiest about is the impending loss of
Kidscat. Most of our older patrons (read: those old enough to read) hate it.
In the year and a half I've been here, I have reassured a number of parents
by telling them the system is on its way out. Its game-like interface
encourages toddler banging (ooo I made a robot appear!) and its slowness
often frustrates older Internet savvy children. It takes quite a bit of time
and computer (and book) knowledge to setup and maintain. We are running
WIN95 and WIN 3.1 versions, and I really don't like either.
Ooo, that does sound a bit negative. All kidding aside it really is a
poorly-designed, clunky product that has seen its day. I (obviously)
wouldn't recommend its installation. Hope my mini rant was in some way
helpful. Should you need more information about our troubles with the
system, I will be happy to oblige.
Tim Capehart
Head Children's Services
Leominster Public Library
Leominster, MA
tcapehar@cwmars.org
http://www.ziplink.net/~capehart
"I just want to read a book that won't break my glasses if I fall asleep
reading in bed." -An elderly patron explaining why she reads YA fiction.
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:14:45 -0700
From: Beth Coughlin <coughlin@noblenet.org>
Subject: Re: thanksgiving toddler ideas
Elaine M. wrote:
>
> hi all...
>
> i'm looking for great ideas for my toddler thanksgiving story times (ages
18
> months through 3 yrs). i'm looking for mostly books and simple but fun
> crafts ideas as i already have plenty of fingerplay/song ideas.
> please reply to elainem@worldnet.att.net. thank you in advance!
>
> elaine
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Because the traditional "Thanksgiving" books are often too slow and
boring for that age group (and even for older kids) I tend to do a
"Food" storytime. One of my favorites is Feast for 10, a book about
shopping and preparing dinner for a large family. I also like "Lunch"
by Fleming (I think). A simple craft is take a paper plate and glue on
pictures of food (which can be cut out of magazines or simple drawings
of food items if you have the time).
Beth Coughlin, Children's Librarian
Swampscott Public Library (MA)
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:54:50 EDT
From: "Loree Davis" <davisloree@hotmail.com>
Subject: nonprofessional vs. professional
Well, sorry but I care deeply (to the tune of about $10,000.00) for my MLS.
And I care deeply about my history BA before it. Webster's defines a
profession as being "a calling requiring specialized knowledge and often
long and intensive academic preparation." And let me tell you...it's been
long. Way long. And sometimes very humbling. For instance, if when writing a
paper you should inadvertently misspell a word, professors and colleagues
will say "And you're in a Master's program?!?!?" Jeez! Anyway for me
it all
ends in just 2 little months. Praise Gawd!!
So yes, there is a difference. As someone mentioned earlier, the piece of
paper does give you a broader sense of what goes on in a library and you
could pretty much be set down in any library, anywhere and do your librarian
"thang". I have been a cataloging assistant for 4 years now and I sit
back
in awe sometimes of the librarians I work with and wonder "Will I ever know
this much?"
I suppose I will but they are some of the most intelligent women and men
I've ever worked with. They know their stuff.
And another difference is (and I will probably step on a few toes here) I
actually sat in the classrooms and did the work and sacrificed a big chunk
of my life to get this degree. And when I sit and hold that piece of paper
in my hand in a few months, I'll probably sit down and cry like a baby.
Loree Davis
Cataloging Assistant
Nova Southeastern University
On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Merle MacNab wrote:
>Excuse me, but I think it is about time that we STOP referring to our
>clerical and/or support staff as nonprofessional! I have been hearing
>this term for over 21 years and it makes me angry! Everyone who works
>in a library acts professionally or they don't stay ... everyone should be
>treated as a professional, and addressed as such. What is the problem
>we have with our self image that we have to segregate ourselves from our
>support staff as though we were "Better" than them?! As far as the
>public is concerned, ANYONE who works in a library is a librarian ... they
>don't care about your MLS, Really!!!!!!
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