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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 00:01:04 CST
Subject: PUBYAC digest 34

PUBYAC Digest 34

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Re: Children's Software for WindowsNT (fwd)
by Michael Brown <michaelb@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
2) Re: PUBYAC digest 32
by Kcjbjd@aol.com
3) Series for book discussion?
by "Betsy Hansen" <bhansen@japl.lib.in.us>
4) summer reading-millenium
by Mary Vanstone <mvanstone@tln.lib.mi.us>
5) Summer Reading Programs
by "Sarah Smith" <sesmith5@hotmail.com>
6) diruptive behavior policy
by karp@tln.lib.mi.us
7) Patriotic Crafts
by Mary Ryan <mryan@noblenet.org>
8) re: need music activities
by Library_Lady@webtv.net (Kim N.)
9) Regarding: Who sank the boat by Pam Allan
by Carrie Eldridge <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>
10) Summer reading registration on web site
by PHUSKEY@lib1.lib.ci.dallas.tx.us
11) (no subject)
by "Loralee M. Armstrong" <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
12) Job posting: Youth Services Librarian
by Julia Aker <jaker@japl.lib.in.us>
13) Stumper: Awful fate of Little Jim
by Theresa Inman <tinman@mail.mind.net>
14) the king's chessboard
by Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
15) Gingerbread Man Variants
by Carol Chatfield <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>

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From: Michael Brown <michaelb@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
To: Elaine Morgan <elainem@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>,
Martha Link <martha@lfpl.org>, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Children's Software for WindowsNT (fwd)
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:22:17 CST

>
> Here's the quandary...we have been really impressed with the quality of The
> Learning Company's products, Living Books, etc. However, these graphic
> intensive programs will not run on the NT platform, according to our
> contacts at the company.

The Living Books series, the newer titles anyway, network
beautifully under Windows NT. Older titles like Arthur's Reading Race
tend to kick people off when more than one user hits the same spot on the
disk. The nice thing about all the Living Books titles is that the
workstations require absolutely no local applications to be setup or
installed. Simply give the users a method to run the executable directly
from the cdrom or cdrom image on your server and they work. A few pop up
video disply messages like "..runs better 640 x 480" but that's not a
problem for us.

Here are the Living Books titles Multnomah County Library offers:

Green Eggs and Ham
Cat in the Hat
Ruff's Bone
Berenstain Bears Get in a Fight

I've been pushing for Tech Svs to order Stellaluna too :)

To date every one of the Humongous Entertainment titles works
great for us as well. These title require every workstation have a simple
ini file (hegames.ini) present with the settings for each title.

Here are the HE titles we are running:

Backyard Soccer
Backyard Baseball
Blue's ABC Time Activities
Blue's Birthday Adventure
Putt Putt Travels Through Time
Pajama Sam in No Need to Hide When It's Dark Outside

Other titles that work well include:

Africa Trail (no apps on workstation)

newer Magic School Bus titles from Microsoft (Ocean does not work)
(These do require some registry entries to run.)

Math Blaster Search for Spot
Math Blaster Pre-Algebra
Pilgrim's Quest II
Reader Rabbit's Interactive Reading Journey
Casper Animated Early Reader
GeoBee Challenge (great spelling program - excellent graphics)
Spelling Blaster (slow to start, otherwise fine)

For each location were we have these running, a server is on site.
The image of the cdrom is copied to a share on the server and we get the
appropriate number of licenses depending on the max number of users. (In
most cases it's easier to just buy another hardcopy and store it.) These
image files are read only.

There is also a share on the server for the application files for
each title. These mostly require users have "Change" permissions, so have
backups. In a year we've had very few need to restore anything, but saved
games and usernames need to be purged periodically. It's much easier than
dealing with the workstations by having them centralized.

Have a model PC setup as all your public stations. We find that
256 colors and 800 x 600 works best for everything. A few titles change
the display as they are used but change it back when done.

A model PC is setup using the Windows NT unattended install
routine we have in place. I then take a Sysdiff image of the machine as
it is before any of the applications are installed. Map drives to the
cdrom image and the application folder one title at a time and run the
setup/install. Choose to have the program install the application files
to the network share. I use the H: drive for the app folder, and I: for
the cdrom image in every case. Again, maybe a 1/3rd of the titles require
the application to be installed to make registry entries and add some
system files locally. Most will simply make use of the application files
on the server with no fuss.

Once you have all the programs you want installed, use Sysdiff
again to take a difference snapshot of your model pc. The resulting image
file can then be applied to each of your public stations and this will
automatically install any necessary registry entries or system files for
all the programs that need them. There are other approaches of course,
but I find this works well.

All of our workstations are locked down pretty tight via the
public station Policy on the server and local file and directory
permissions. They automatically logon when restarted or logged off. We run
a program called runapp.exe as the shell so that one instance of Netscape
is always open on the desktop. Users launch the programs through a
webpage using Kixtart scripts. These scripts map the drives to H: and I:
and run the application. The scripts also detect any instance of other
programs open and close those before launching the next. Moreover, the
scripts send log entries to the server which we hope to eventually use
more effectively in gathering usage statistics.

You might be able to connect to the interface page for one of our
locations here:

http://lib-gsm1.multnomah.lib.or.us/gsmkids/index.html

The whole thing comes together as a very seamless process to the
users - which is good when you are dealing with younger patrons - so
there's not much to mess up. Volume Controls are on the monitors which
have built in speakers. We are moving over to headphones, but these plug
into the monitor and the volume controls still work.

You may also be interested in a program called NoiseNakPlus which
controls the volume levels and prevents programs from altering the
settings. I worked with ComSoft as they developed this program and it
works magic. Not only is the Windows Master Volume controlled, but you
can set the Wave Volume as well and even schedule it for different levels.

We had a problem that when users turned off or down the volume in
Math Blaster Pre-Algebra, that setting changed the volume level for every
program. NoiseNakPlus prevents this from occuring. It also prevents
muting from working. I have yet to explore the command line options and
the on screen volume control features it has to offer. You can find out
more about it here...

http://www.comsoft.co.nz/index.htm

Well, I hope this is of some help. Oh, and here's a list of
titles that DO NOT work (or work well) under NT...at least they didn't for
us:

Madeline titles
Babe's Animated preschool adventure
Barbie Cool Looks Fashion Designer
Carmen Sandiego: Word Detective
Castle Explorer
If You Give a Mouse a Cookie
Invention Studio
Madeline European Adventures
Math Blaster: In Search of Spot
Math Blaster: the Great Brain Robbery
Grammar Rock
Thinkin' Things 2 and 3
Tonka Search and Rescue
School House Rock Exploration Station (one user at a time works alright)
Tonka Construction (limit to one user at a time works)
Arthur's Reading Race (again one user works well)
American Girls
Elmo's Preschool
Oregon Trail 2 and 3 (requires disk in drive)
Crayola Make A Masterpiece
JumpStart Typing
Ready to Read with Pooh


Michael Brown <michaelb@multnomah.lib.or.us>
Network Analyst, Multnomah County Library

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From: Kcjbjd@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: PUBYAC digest 32
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:38:25 CST

Hi all,
We are attempting to create a "teen Board" to help us implement a new YA
program. We have come up with a very simple "application" for the
interested teens to complete (why they want to serve on a board, what do they
want to do, interests etc.) We plan to interview applicants before making a
final selection. Our board we figure should be a core group of about 6
teens. I am looking for any suggestions, ideas from others who have created
& worked with such a teen advisory board. Any hints, tips, suggestions would
be greatly appreciated. Please answer me at Kcjbjd@aol.com. I will gladly
post all responses to PubYac. Thank you in advance for your help.
Kathy Daniels _ Assistant Youth Coord. Mary L. Cook Public Library

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From: "Betsy Hansen" <bhansen@japl.lib.in.us>
To: "pubyac" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Series for book discussion?
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:46:00 CST

Hi all,
Has anyone ever let book club participants select a title out of a series
to use for discussion instead of everyone reading the same book? I am
considering doing this in a Mother/Daughter Book Club, and I am hoping I can
benefit from others experience. Any words of wisdom would be greatly
appreciated!
-Thanks
Betsy Hansen
bhansen@japl.lib.in.us







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From: Mary Vanstone <mvanstone@tln.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: summer reading-millenium
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:53:27 CST

We are thinking about straying from Michigan's theme of sports and doing
something millenium related. Presently we're talking about "travel through
time with books", as our theme. we haven't decided if we would do just the
last 100 years, or the last 1000. Both offer some fun planning
opportunities. We've got a folder full of performers who would fit in
with the theme and some fun ideas, but I'd love to hear from anyone else
planning on doing a similar theme. Book lists, activities, decorations, we
are open to suggestions. you can e-mail me at mvanstone@tln.lib.mi.us or
send it snail mail to M. Vanstone, 100 Library Drive, brighton, MI 48116.

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From: "Sarah Smith" <sesmith5@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Summer Reading Programs
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:01:04 CST

Has anyone ever done a family reading program for the summer (or, really,
any time)? If so, how did your program "work"? I would appreciate any
information that you could share with me.

Also, has anyone ever done an auction SRP, using "book bucks" to buy items
at the end of summer? If you have done a program like this, I have some
questions I'd like to email you off-list. These are just some ideas I've
been tossing around for SRP's. Any other ideas are welcome, too.

If you have information to share, you may email me directly
sesmith5@hotmail.com or to the list.

Thanks in advance,
Sarah
Harrison, Michigan
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From: karp@tln.lib.mi.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: diruptive behavior policy
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:08:14 CST

Happy New Year to you all.
I need your help again: My library is forming a policy in regard to
disruptive persons. I was wondering if any of you "out there" have a
statement/policy that you could share with us? If it isn't too long
for you to forward and you'd want to email me, that would be most
appreciated. I am Margi Karp-Opperer, Head of Youth Services at
the Novi Library in Novi, Michigan; email address is
karp@tln.lib.mi.us. If it is more convenient to fax me the
information, my fax is 248-349-6520. I thank you very much for your
time in helping us out. Margi.

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From: Mary Ryan <mryan@noblenet.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Patriotic Crafts
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:15:39 CST

I will be doing a story hour for 6-8 year olds on famous people born in
February. Part of the hour will be a craft. Does anyone have any ideas
for a patriotic craft or anything else that might work?
Thanks.

Mary Ryan, Assistant Children's Librarian
Beverly Public Library, Beverly Massachusetts
mryan@noblenet.org
North of Boston Library Exchange

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From: Library_Lady@webtv.net (Kim N.)
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: re: need music activities
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:22:53 CST

Using music during story time is one of my favorite things! Some of my
favorite recordings include:

Here we go Loopty Loo by the Learning Station

Toddlerific by Georgiana Liccione Stewart

Sing It! Say It! Stamp It! Sway It! by Peter and Ellen Allard

Totline series: Learn with Piggyback Songs
includes a book & tape for babies, toddlers, threes, and fours

Many of these have activities you can learn and do without the
recordings, but I love the help--I can have fun instead of worrying
about whether or not I'm in tune or if I'm going to forget the words.

Some individual activities I enjoy include:

Making shakers with elbow macaroni in a paper plate that's folded in
half and stapled. You can sing "Row, Row, Row your boat" Try different
speeds and volumes. Replace the word "Merrily" with the child's name
and use it as a Hello or Good-bye song.

Use the shakers again with the tune of "Jingle bells!" but with these
words: Shake, shake, shake; shake, shake, shake; Shake your shaker
high. Shake, shake, shake; Shake, shake, shake; Shake it to the sky!
Shake it high; Shake it low; Shake it fast or slow. Shake it all around
the room and everywhere you go!

The "Shoo Fly" dance. Start in a circle holding hands. Step in toward
the middle of the circle and then out again with the refrain: "Shoo fly
[in] don't bother me [out]" repeat until the end of the refrain.
You can vary the activities you do on the verses, things like dancing in
place, walking to the right or left, marching, etc. Then on each
refrain you should go back to the stepping in and out of the center.

Older kids [at least 4 years old and up] can learn to turn the circle
inside out on the verses. One pair should raise their joined hands to
form an arch. The pair directly opposite them should walk across the
circle through the arch--with everyone following and still holding
hands. You'll end up with your backs facing the inside of the circle!
You can step in and out backwards and then turn the circle back right
side out in the same manner.

My favorite recording of "Shoo Fly" is by Sweet Honey in the Rock on "I
Got Shoes"

I enjoy "singing" the book "Baby Beluga" by Raffi along with his
recording on "Raffi in Concert with the Rise and Shine Band" so you can
do the lip flapping "brrmp, brrmp, brrrmp" bridge included on this
version.

Don't forget "Put your finger in the air" which you can do perfectly
well without a recording, but try: Mark Dvorak on "Old Songs & New
People," Woody Guthrie on "Woody's 20 Grow Big Songs" and Pete Seeger on
"For Kids and Just Plain Folk"

Introduce your kids to different musical styles with these fun ones:

"Finger Poppin'" is set to the "Bugle Boy of Company B" tune and is done
by Georgiana Stewart on "Preschool Aerobic Fun"

"Polka Time" and "Can Can" are both on the aforementioned "Toddlerific"

"Bluegrass Jamboree" is sooo much fun and is done by Hap Palmer on "So
Big"

Have fun!
Kimberly
Library_Lady@webtv.net
Fort Wayne, IN

"If you could ask for one thing...to happen, what would it be?"
"...I wouldn't ask b/c if the recipient of the ? could really make it
come true...I'd give it all up and go carry their luggage."
Harry Connick Jr on CheckOut.com at Talk City Chat 12/8/99

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From: Carrie Eldridge <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Regarding: Who sank the boat by Pam Allan
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:30:17 CST

Thanks for all the replies with the storyline of Who sank the boat. To the
person who requested where I purchased the flannelboard I have lost your
e-mail. I purchased the flannelboard for the story from

BEULAH'S CREATIONS @ 2112 Churchill Road./ Ft. Smith AR 72901 501-783-5741.

I bought three flannelboards in '99 and I am pleased with them. I plan to
purchase more.
Carrie Eldridge
San Juan Island Library District
Friday Harbor, WA 98250
360-378-2798
360-378-2706
celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us



"I eat words wherever
I find them but am no wiser.
Keep your books under lock and key
or they'll be devoured by me!"

what am I?

-from "Riddle Road: puzzles in poems and
pictures" illustrated by Erik Blegvad

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From: PHUSKEY@lib1.lib.ci.dallas.tx.us
To: PUBYAC@PRAIRIENET.org
Subject: Summer reading registration on web site
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:38:10 CST

Hi everyone

Our summer reading planning committee is investigating the possibility of
SRP registration on our library web site. For those of you who have tried it
before, what were some of the positives/negatives? Thanks for your input.

Paula Huskey
Dallas (TX) Public Library
Pleasant Grove branch

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From: "Loralee M. Armstrong" <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:46:01 CST

Will the person from Hillsboro who wanted information about switching the
summer reading club format to time read please contact me directly. I
tried to respond and my message bounced back.
Loralee Armstrong
larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us

"Meddle not with dragons for thou art crunchy and taste good with catsup"

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From: Julia Aker <jaker@japl.lib.in.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Job posting: Youth Services Librarian
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:53:09 CST

Position Open: Youth Services Librarian

Description: The Jackson County Public Library has a full-time opening for
a motivated, energetic Youth Services Librarian at the main library in
Seymour, Indiana. The library serves over 31,000 at the main library, two
branches, and Bookmobile.

Responsibilities: Duties include children's and young adult collection
development and programming, reference and readers' advisory, consulting
with branch staff, and supervising one full-time and four part-time
assistants, two shelvers, and volunteers. The schedule includes evening &
weekend hours.

Qualifications: ALA/MLS degree. Experience as a children's librarian
(post-MLS) is necessary, with prior management experience preferred.
Familiarity with DRA a plus.

Salary: $28,000+, depending on experience. Benefits include 5 days
vacation after six months, 13 days sick leave, 2 days personal leave, and 8
paid holidays. 90% of health and dental insurance paid for employee and
50% for family. Life insurance and retirement paid by library. Deferred
compensation available at employee expense.

Contact: Send resume & letter of application to Julia Aker, Library
Director, Jackson County Public Library, 303 W. Second St., Seymour, IN
47274-2147. (jaker@japl.lib.in.us)

Closes: January 31.


Julia Aker, Director 812-522-3412 x223 (voice)
Jackson Co. Public Library 812-522-5456 (fax)
303 W. Second St. http://www.seymour.org/MainLib/
Seymour, IN 47274-2147

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From: Theresa Inman <tinman@mail.mind.net>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Awful fate of Little Jim
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:01:54 CST

PUBYACers,

Our patron remembers a poem, read to her 40 or 50 years ago, in which a
little boy eats too much on Thanksgiving and explodes.

First lines may be:

Children hear the dreadful story
Of a little boy named Jim
That upon this day Thanksgiving
You may warning take of him.

We have checked our collections of seasonal poetry and poetry indexes. We
did find "Jim who ran away from his nurse and was eaten by a lion" by
Hilaire Belloc and "Jimmy Jupp, who died of over-eating" by H.A.C. Evans,
but these don't seem to be the poem our patron seeks.

Any assistance is much appreciated. Please respond directly to me at
tinman@jcls.org -- I'll post the answer to the group.

Thank you in advance for your help.

--------------------------------
Theresa Yancey
Reference/Children's Librarian
Jackson County Library Services
Medford, OR
(541) 774-6419
tinman@jcls.org
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Theresa Yancey
Reference/Children's Librarian
Jackson County Library Services
Medford, OR
(541) 774-6419
tinman@jcls.org
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From: Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: the king's chessboard
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:09:21 CST

Hello:

Does anyone out there know of other versions of The king's chessboard
(written by David Birch, illustrated by Devis Grebu)? The version we have
is set in India. It involves a king who wishes to reward his wise man and,
because he is too proud to ask for clarification, ends up giving away
nearly all the rice in his granary. It's a mathematical story about how
easy it is for pride to turn one into a fool.

The version we have has the grain workers *weighing* the rice. One of our
teachers is looking for a version in which the rice grains are *counted*.
Any leads would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Robin

R. Shtulman
Erving Elementary School
28 Northfield Road
Erving, MA 01344
shtulman@erving.com
http://www.erving.com/library/erving_library.htm

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From: Carol Chatfield <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Gingerbread Man Variants
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:20:56 CST

I have a teacher request for folklore variants of the gingerbread man
story. We are familiar with Galdone's version, also the recent one by
Aylesworth and one by Jan Brett. We have found The Bun, a Russian
version, as well. We have checked older editions of Index to Fairy
Tales but have none newer than 1973/Ireland.
Does anyone know of other retellings of this tale?
Thanks for your help.
Carol Chatfield
Ilsley Public Library Middlebury, VT
cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu

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