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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:01:05 CST
Subject: PUBYAC digest 35

PUBYAC Digest 35

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Benefits for Employee and family
by "Richard C. Mandel" <mandel@voicenet.com>
2) Re: Patriotic Crafts
by "marietta cole, children's librarian" <marietta@millinocket.lib.me.us>
3) disruptive behavior policy
by "Dahms-Stinson, Nancee" <dahmsn@sosmail.state.mo.us>
4) School/Public Libraries SRC cooperation
by Georgi Sandgren <ivylane3@yahoo.com>
5) desktop management software
by Jim Zola <jim.zola@ci.high-point.nc.us>
6) Re: Shelving of Picture Books
by Lorie <odonnell@borg.com>
7) Harry Potter Activity Kit
by "Spector, Maya" <maya_spector@city.palo-alto.ca.us>
8) toddler ideas
by "Elaine M." <elainem9@hotmail.com>
9) RE: clocks with children's book characters
by steven engelfried <stevene@dpls.lib.or.us>
10) Mardi Gras program?
by Kerry Reed <kreed@wpld.alibrary.com>
11) Cost of a Harry Potter Party?
by MILFORD PUBLIC LIBRARY <milford.public.lib@snet.net>
12) CDs versus audiocassettes
by Georgi Sandgren <ivylane3@yahoo.com>
13) Teens Hanging Out
by Rachel Hyland <rhyland@farmington.lib.ct.us>
14) poison prevention
by "Christine L. Reigh" <creigh@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us>
15) Stumper - Whimsical Characters
by Robyn Lupa <rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us>
16) king's chessboard variants thank you
by Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
17) Stumper - Children's Poem
by Franja Bryant <fbryant@kcls.org>
18) Intellectual Freedom for Children: The Censor is Coming
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
19) Stumper: Liar and the Leprechaun
by Theresa Inman <tinman@mail.mind.net>
20) Patron Stumper: Friendly Monster Picture Books
by Sherry Small - LIBRARYX <sherrysmall@mail.maricopa.gov>
21) Woodcutter stumper
by Marie McColley <mccolley@jefferson.lib.co.us>
22) stumper - gingerbread man rescued by bird
by "Marie Noe" <marie.noe@alc.org>

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From: "Richard C. Mandel" <mandel@voicenet.com>
To: "PUBYAC@prairienet.org" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Benefits for Employee and family
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:57:55 CST

Hi All,

I have been a children's librarian at a busy suburban library for two
years. I have had my health and dental benefits paid in full only for
myself. Recently I was alerted that the amount that I was paying to
cover the rest of my family would be increased substantially. I was
wondering if many other libraries offer medical and dental benefits to
an entire family as one of the benefits for their "professional staff".

Please reply to me with your comments - hopefully positive to help me
"state my case"!

Thanks for your help!!

Andirea Mandel
mandel@voicenet.com

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From: "marietta cole, children's librarian" <marietta@millinocket.lib.me.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Patriotic Crafts
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:09:29 CST

Hi Mary,
You could make a headband from 3 pieces (one red, one white,
one blue) of construction paper (each side should have a slight arch
with the longest side up and the width of each side should be about
3") staple or glue the ends together then cut out 3 stars (mix the
colors) for each side and decorate. Wish I could send a picture.




marietta cole, children's librarian
millinocket memorial library
5 maine avenue
millinocket, maine 04462
marietta@millinocket.lib.me.us
(207) 723-7020
(207) 723-7009 fax

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From: "Dahms-Stinson, Nancee" <dahmsn@sosmail.state.mo.us>
To: "'karp@tln.lib.mi.us'" <karp@tln.lib.mi.us>,
"'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: disruptive behavior policy
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:16:04 CST

You might consider looking at a copy of Dealing with Difficult People in the
Library by Mark Willis (ALA, 1999). It contains helpful guidelines for
setting policy regarding a number of issues (including an excellent chapter
on what to do about suspected child abuse).

Nancee
Nancee Dahms-Stinson
Consultant, Youth and Senior Services
Missouri State Library
600 West Main Street
Jefferson City, MO 65102-0387
573-751-1821

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From: Georgi Sandgren <ivylane3@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: School/Public Libraries SRC cooperation
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:22:56 CST

This year, our public library is hoping to work more
closely with our school district in promoting and
implementing our summer reading program. At the
present time there is no interaction, other than an
SRC poster being placed in each school.

If any of you have any success stories on such
cooperation, or tips or cautions, I would really
appreciate hearing from you. Of course, we have to
start small, but I'm looking forward to your input.

TIA,
Georgi


=====
Georgi Sandgren
Children's Librarian
East Islip Public Library
381 East Main Street
East Islip, New York 11730-2896
631-581-9200 ext. 6
ivylane3@yahoo.com
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From: Jim Zola <jim.zola@ci.high-point.nc.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: desktop management software
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:29:27 CST

I am looking for some kind of desktop management software to use with a public PC
that we have in the children's room to use for CD-ROM games and educational
software. We had been using Kid Desk, but then we converted to Windows NT and Kid
Desk will not run on NT. Does anyone have a suggerstion for another desktop
software program similar to Kid Desk that would work with Windows NT?


Jim Z.
jim.zola@ci.high-point.nc.us

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From: Lorie <odonnell@borg.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Shelving of Picture Books
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:36:00 CST

Hi Kelley, We used to shelve the books by the first three letters of the
authors last name. It was a nightmare to find a book, as they were never in
order. I bought the big bright colored letters from Highsmith and put the
first letter of the author's last name on the spine. They are shelved
togther that way, and it is much easier to see when a book is out of
place. Now we have only to look through one letter shelf/section for a
book. And let's face it, a three year old can't read a sign that tells him
not to reshelve the books, and most parents don't pay any attention either!

Hope this helps.

lorie

Kelly Poole wrote:

> In the past we have shelved our picture books by the first letter or the
> first three letters of the author's last name. We have been in a period
> of building expansion the last several years, and as our collection
> numbers increase I feel we should shelve picture books by the author's
> last name and then title. (We have almost 8,000 picture books.)
> However, our shelvers are resisting this idea because it is too
> difficult. (However, the YS department reads the shelves.) Could some
> of you reply directly to me as to how you shelve your picture books?
> TIA
>
> Kelly Poole
> YS Librarian
> krpoole@lex.lib.sc.us

--
***************
Lorie J. O'Donnell
odonnell@borg.com

"All that is comes from the mind; it is based on the mind,
it is fashioned by the mind. " from The Pali Canon

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From: "Spector, Maya" <maya_spector@city.palo-alto.ca.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Harry Potter Activity Kit
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:42:31 CST

Months ago I sent away to Scholastic for the Harry Potter Kit, and I've
never received it or any response. Has anyone else had better luck?
Unfortunately, I've lost the contact information. If you have the name and
address for the Scholastic person in charge, would you let me know? Thanks.

Maya Spector
Palo Alto Children's Library
maya_spector@city.palo-alto.ca.us

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From: "Elaine M." <elainem9@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: toddler ideas
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:49:40 CST

Hi All-
I'm planning my winter toddler time story times for ages 18 months to 3
years. I like to do little hands on quickie crafts activities with the kids
because they love to either wear something they've made or have something to
hang up at home. I'm having trouble finding crafts activities for this age
for the theme of "Colors." Also, any other miscellaneous fun easy
arts/crafts ideas for this age group would be much appreciated (not
necessarily around a theme).
Please send your replies to elainem@worldnet.att.net

Thank you.
Elaine
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From: steven engelfried <stevene@dpls.lib.or.us>
To: "PUBYAC (E-mail)" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: clocks with children's book characters
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:56:05 CST

A while back I asked for ideas for a fun children's clock. I got some great
ideas:

"While not a book character, my favorite clock is the black cat whose tail
and eyes move back and forth. I've seen them in mail order catalogs."

"You could always purchase boring clocks (or use your old ones), pop out the
glass, and decorate the face with pictures from book covers (at my former
library we removed the bookcovers if the book board itself had the cover
illustration on it). Or you could use wrapping paper or stickers."

"While I have never seen a Cat in the Hat or Max wall clock. I saw a
Curious
George clock at a store the other day. I looked on the web and found a site
where
you can order it.
www.possibilitiesshop.com/CuriousGeorgeWallClock.html"

"I've not seen any clocks with book characters on them, but here's an
idea--many craft stores have clock making kits with workings that you can
put on just about anything (needlepoint clocks and personal photo clocks are
very popular.) You might look at making clocks with pages salvaged from
withdrawn books."

"You might try looking through a Signals catalog. They carry some
unusual stuff, and many "literary" items. You can get a catalog from their
website (www.signals.com)"

"You can purchase blank-faced clocks and lots of different character
stickers
from The Sticker Planet. I don't think they are too expensive and I can't
remember exactly what stickers they have. I think their website is
www.stickerplanet.com"

"Why not hold a contest of local artists. Have them paint a clock
face with your mascot, logo, or just something fun?"

-thanks to Nancee Dahms-Stinson, Susan Harding, Jeri Kladder, Esther
Leewenstein, Mary McCarthy, Kerri Meeks, Elaine Morgan, Linda Shanks, and
Sarah Smith for the suggestions...

- Steven Engelfried, Children's Librarian
Deschutes Public Library System, Bend Branch
601 NW Wall Street Bend, OR 97701
ph: 541-617-7072 fax: 541-617-7073
e-mail: stevene@dpls.lib.or.us


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From: Kerry Reed <kreed@wpld.alibrary.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Mardi Gras program?
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:06:45 CST

Hello All -

I was struck yesterday with an idea to do a Mardi Gras program for the
entire family. My co-worker and I are rather excited about this idea
because no one else in the community (park district/schools/businesses)
has done this and for once we won't be competing for their attention.

So, I'm wondering if anyone else has ever done a Mardi Gras party? What
did you do? How did it turn out? What would you do again or different?

Please reply to me at KReed@wpld.alibrary.com and I will repost to the
whole list.

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You
Kerry Reed
Winnetka-Northfield Public Library

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From: MILFORD PUBLIC LIBRARY <milford.public.lib@snet.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Cost of a Harry Potter Party?
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:18:01 CST

Our children's department is planning to host a "Harry Potter Party"
sometime in the spring. For any of you that have also hosted a party,
approximately how much money did you spend? We are planning to have
activities, favors, decorations, etc. (Don't worry about telling
us all of your activities, games etc., we just need a rough idea of how
much money to earmark.) Our e-mail is milford.public.lib@snet.net.
Thanks so much!

Childrens Dept.
Milford Public Library
Milford, CT
milford.public.lib@snet.net

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From: Georgi Sandgren <ivylane3@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: CDs versus audiocassettes
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:28:48 CST

Our children's department still orders its music in
cassette format, unlike our adult department. I would
like to change this and was hoping for some input as
to the conversion process - how your patrons reacted,
was there any change in circulation, was storage
easier, etc?

TIA,

Georgi

=====
Georgi Sandgren
Children's Librarian
East Islip Public Library
381 East Main Street
East Islip, New York 11730-2896
631-581-9200 ext. 6
ivylane3@yahoo.com
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From: Rachel Hyland <rhyland@farmington.lib.ct.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teens Hanging Out
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:39:28 CST

Hi everyone,

I guess I've been promoting my (relatively) new Teen Space too well.
We've been invaded by a group of between 10-15 middle and high school
age kids. They are here every day and have de facto taken over to the
point that other kids have been avoiding the room. This is, for me, the
greatest frustration. I expected this to happen sometimes and
somewhat. I remember what it was like to be that age! However, I feel
that this is becoming a problem. This group feels as if they own the
room. Their behavior is not good. We've had some vandalism, lots of
inappropriate behavior, and one CD Rom theft..
We have procedures to expel patrons after 3 warnings, but what can I do
to avoid getting to that point?. There are computers in there, games to
play, and obviously a lot to read. They just are not interested. One
idea I have is to try to get them doing something while they are here
other than just hang out (loudly).
I ask for your advice. This babysitting is not what I planned to do
with my career! Any suggestions?

Thank you!

Rachel Hyland
Farmington Library
Farmington, CT
rhyland@farmington.lib.ct.us
860/521-7415

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From: "Christine L. Reigh" <creigh@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: poison prevention
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:50:17 CST

Help!

I am looking for information on poison prevention for my preschool age
(2-5) storytime classes. Does anyone know of any age appropriate stories,
books and crafts I could use dealing with this subject. Their parents
will also be attending this program. If you could help please E-mail me
creigh@htls.lib.il.us or fax me the information at (815) 634-2950.

Thanks,

Christine Reigh
Children's Librarian
Coal City Public Library

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From: Robyn Lupa <rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper - Whimsical Characters
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:01:48 CST

Hi,

This is probably a longshot, but a patron is searching for a book from a few
years ago. It is a picture book with whimsical Seuss-like characters and
drawings. The main thing she remembers is that it includes a mountain goat
(or similar animal) whose horns wrap around and become skis. I've checked
several sources ("A to Zoo", etc.) but this one is hard to locate in an
index. Thanks in advance for your help!

Robyn Lupa, Children's Librarian
Jefferson County Public Library - Lakewood Branch
(303) 232-9507 x3
rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us

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From: Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: king's chessboard variants thank you
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:12:43 CST

Wow! That was fast!

Following are the 4 titles that appear to be variants of The King's Chessboard.

One Grain of Rice: A Mathematical Folktale by Demi. (Scholastic, 1997)

A Grain of Rice by Helen Clare Pittman (Hastings House, 1986)

The Token Gift by Hugh William McKibbon (Annick, 1996) isbn 1550374982

Melisande by Nesbit

Thank you to all who responded!

Robin

R. Shtulman
Erving Elementary School
28 Northfield Road
Erving, MA 01344
shtulman@erving.com
http://www.erving.com/library/erving_library.htm

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From: Franja Bryant <fbryant@kcls.org>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper - Children's Poem
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:23:56 CST

I hope someone "out there" remembers the rest of this poem (or maybe it's
a fingerplay/action rhyme). Anyhow, my patron (who is in her 30's) heard
it from her mother as a little child, so it has been around for a
while. We have checked several online poetry indexes, Grangers (just in
case) and have sent out a "Collective Brain" message to all 41 libraries
in our library system with no luck. The words the patron remembers are:

A little yellow monkey in a banyon tree
One morning got the giggles going tee hee hee
He giggled all the ??????? fishes in the deep blue sea

If you can help us out we would really appreciate it. Please respond
directly to me. Thanks

Franja Bryant
King County Library System
Lake Hills Library
Bellevue, Washington
fbryant@kcls.org

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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Intellectual Freedom for Children: The Censor is Coming
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:35:27 CST

NEWS
For Immediate Release/January 2000
Contact: Rebecca Singer
1-800-545-2433, ext. 2165
rsinger@ala.org

ALSC updates popular intellectual freedom publication

The Association for Library Service to Children (ALSC), a division of the American Library Association (ALA), has updated the intellectual freedom publication, Intellectual Freedom for Children: The Censor is Coming.
This notebook, written by the ALSC Intellectual Freedom Committee with committee chair, Jan Watkins as compiler, is an essential guide to information on intellectual freedom issues. It includes guidelines, policies, resolutions, background readings and resource lists that help librarians prepare for and respond to challenges to materials. It also provides valuable information on the impact of the Internet on intellectual freedom and a discussion on library use of filtering software.

"With technology changing so rapidly, Intellectual Freedom for Children: The Censor is Coming is an invaluable tool to help all libraries be prepared before the censor comes," says Caroline Ward, ALSC President." If you are facing a challenge now, or merely preparing for future challenges, this notebook will help your library develop policies so that it can be prepared with an effective, measured response."

The publication, will be available in the store at the ALA Midwinter Meetings in San Antonio or by calling ALA Order Fulfillment at 800-545-2433, press 7. ISBN 0-8389-8074-0; $28 non-members; $25.20 ALA members.

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From: Theresa Inman <tinman@mail.mind.net>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Liar and the Leprechaun
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:46:42 CST

PUBYACers,

Our patron remembers an Irish tale, possibly recently published in picture
book form, about a man, known for his inability to tell the truth, who goes
to a liars convention. On the way, he falls asleep and meets a leprechaun
who tells him not to tell lies about leprechauns. If he does this, he will
be rewarded. At the convention, he tells the truth and wins a prize.

We've checked the Storyteller's Sourcebook under "Liars", "Leprechauns",
"Little People". We've checked our collections of Irish fairytales,
legends and folklore.
We know it is not "Leprechauns Never Lie" by Balian, not "Clever Tom and
the Leprechaun."

Any assistance is appreciated. Please respond directly to tinman@jcls.org

Thanks in advance, I will post answer to the group.


--------------------------------
Theresa Yancey
Reference/Children's Librarian
Jackson County Library Services
Medford, OR
(541) 774-6419
tinman@jcls.org
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From: Sherry Small - LIBRARYX <sherrysmall@mail.maricopa.gov>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Patron Stumper: Friendly Monster Picture Books
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:57:28 CST

Hey all,
I have a patron stumper. She's looking for a series of books that she read
as a child about 20 years ago. The main character is a friendly, tall
monster that is green or purple. All the books "sort of" rhymed. One was
about buses, airplanes, cars, etc. Another one was about cookies and had a
recipe for sugar cookies in the back. They're not the Mercer Mayer books and
not the Max books. Any ideas?
You can e-mail me if you want. sherrysmall@mail.maricopa.gov
Thanks,
Sherry

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From: Marie McColley <mccolley@jefferson.lib.co.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Woodcutter stumper
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:08:19 CST

Hi Gang,

This is my first post to the list, so be patient with me. I had a patron
call me today with a vague request for a story (she did not know if it was a
fable, folktale or poem) that dealt with two woodcutters. One stopped
working to sharpen his blade and cut a larger stack of wood then the other
in the same amount of time. She thought the moral had something to do with
taking a break.

I have checked A to Zoo and just about every book we had on folktales, fairy
tales, and fables and our catalog, Books in Print. I left her a message to
get me more information.

Help!! Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Marie McColley
Temporary Childrens Librarian
Villa Library
Jefferson County Public Library

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From: "Marie Noe" <marie.noe@alc.org>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper - gingerbread man rescued by bird
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:19:11 CST

We have a patron who is looking for a version of The Gingerbread Man in
which the little cookie is rescued at the end by a bird. Without
descriptions for most of the editions we managed to dig up, it falls to the
memories of pubyacers. Is anyone familiar with this version?

**********************************************
Marie Noe marie.noe@alc.org
Librarian II (915) 676-6067
Abilene Public Library fax-(915) 738-8082
202 Cedar Street Abilene, TX 79601

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