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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults
& Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:39:55 CST
Subject: PUBYAC digest 102
PUBYAC Digest 102
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Rudeness
by caes@pacificrim.net
2) RE: Rudeness
by Todd A Grazier <tgrazier@gcfn.org>
3) RE: Rudeness/Parents at storytimes
by Kate McLean <mcleank@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us>
4) request response
by Dianne Stokes <dianne.stokes@cms.k12.nc.us>
5) ya programs
by "Kathy Eaton" <eatonkathy@hotmail.com>
6) Storytime Rules
by "Beth DeGeer" <bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us>
7) Adults in Storytime
by "Downs-Reid, Patricia" <PDowns-Reid@mpls.lib.mn.us>
8) Computers for kids
by Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>
9) Determining finishers in Summer Reading Programs - Thank you!
by Terisa Brown <TerisaB@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
10) RE: Rudeness
by Carol Janoff <cjanoff@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us>
11) reluctant readers
by Efrankbayer@aol.com
12) Question re: book clubs for teens
by Lulu6700@aol.com
13) Re: Rudeness
by Karen Cordiner <Karen_Cordiner@bc.sympatico.ca>
14) Filters on the Internet
by Susan Anderson-Newham <snewie@yahoo.com>
15) RE: Rudeness
by Kim Kietzman <kkietzma@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
16) Bookmobile service to preschool children
by Janet Hollingsworth <hollinja@oplin.lib.oh.us>
17) Parents in story time
by "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
18) pizza party for elementary ages
by "Dorothy Holzman" <dorothyh@eauclaire.lib.wi.us>
19) County Fairs
by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
20) Rudeness
by Corey Bennett <bennetc@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
21) RE: Rudeness
by "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>
22) Catalog question
by Janice Lyhane <janicel@bluevalley.net>
23) Info needed about Internet Filters
by "Mary J. Soucie" <mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us>
24) spanish storytimes?
by Sarah Stone <stonesar@kcls.org>
25) Rudeness/Open storytimes
by linda <lmeuse@cherryhill.lib.nj.us>
26) book recommendations by kids
by Debbie Austin <daustin@scfl.lib.ca.us>
27) Stumper: Bedtime story fragment
by Ann Mahon <mahona@pls.lib.ca.us>
28) woodland stumper solved
by Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
29) Video Stumper
by Nancy Randle <nrandle@tbpl.thunder-bay.on.ca>
30) stumper...johnny and the bear?
by Katherine Grace Sheppard <kgsheppa@is2.dal.ca>
31) Stumper: Jersey devil
by Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
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From: caes@pacificrim.net
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Rudeness
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:43:56 CST
>GOSH-you are all so vigilant at your storytime. Letters, locked doors,
>what's next armed guards? <snip>
Hear! Hear! There's nothing wrong with a little exuberance. It's fun to
surf the energy of a boisterous group. There's also nothing wrong with a
gentle word to calm things down or bring parents to an awareness of what's
expected of them. (They're used gabbing in front of the uncaring TV. All
you need to do is subliminally remind them that they are visible and
audible to you, and they settle right down.)
At our libraries, we'd never think of locking parents out, even in our
couple of branches that have rooms with doors. Storytime is for parents,
too! It introduces them to the best in children's literature, and it
models fingerplays and games they can play with their children.
We do distribute a bookmark with a few guidelines on it. However, the
guidelines do -not- include instructing parents to control their kids.
I've seen stories ruined by parents loudly telling their children to be
quiet and behave. Sometimes parents will even get into the middle of the
group and block everyone's view while they make their child sit down and be
good. (It's especially frustrating when the child wasn't really misbehaving
to begin with; just being a normal, wriggly preschooler.) I like the
freedom to choose what action to take if a child actually does become
disruptive. Options include asking a parent to take charge of a child, but
that's a last resort.
The best way to pull together an attentive, well-behaved group of parents
and kids is to arrange the room so that everyone can see and hear, prepare
engrossing stories and activities, and present them entertainingly. Any
momentary disruption will barely register as the audience focuses on your
fascinating books.
Catherine Sarette, Youth Services Coordinator
Whatcom County Library System
Bellingham, WA
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From: Todd A Grazier <tgrazier@gcfn.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Rudeness
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:53:17 CST
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, rebecca stutzman wrote:
> I'm sure it is very difficult for some of you who
> have open story hour rooms. However,
> I bring up a well-discussed subject to those who have
> meeting rooms. Why do you let
> parents attend? Unless it is a special occasion
> (Easter, Christmas) or Toddler Storytime,
> parents in our library so not stay with their children
> in storyhour. After all most of these
> children are able to attend preschool alone, why not
> storyhour? Are we the only library
> that has such a rule?
Rebecca,
I for one would feel very awkward telling parents they could not
attend. I would not let my own children attend, if I could not go with
them. I also want the parents there to deal with any thing that might
occur. Plus they might actually learn something about making reading a
fun and enjoyable experience. I look at storytime as being entertaining
and informative for children AND parents.
/`
o") Todd A. Grazier
,( )' tgrazier@gcfn.org
_"_ Columbus Metropolitan Library
"Opinions are my own, but you may borrow them with a valid library
card."
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From: Kate McLean <mcleank@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Rudeness/Parents at storytimes
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:54:41 CST
Parents everywhere are being encouraged to visit their children's schools
and daycares so that they know what is going on there. After all, we want
parents to be involved with their children and their activities. Some
parents are suspicious of situations where they are 'not allowed'to
accompany their child. I certainly wouldn't want anyone to be suspicious
of my storytimes. I leave it up to the parent and child whether the parent
attends, however the parents must observe the same behavior rules as the
children if they do attend.
Kate McLean
Tucker-Reid H. Cofer Library
DeKalb County Public Libraries, GA
mcleank@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us
"My opinions are my own."
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From: Dianne Stokes <dianne.stokes@cms.k12.nc.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: request response
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:56:11 CST
Thanks for everyone who responded to my request for information regarding
the purchase of paperback vs. hardback books for ya circulation. Most
librarians who responded said that teens prefer reading paperbacks to
hardbacks. Also the cost of paperbacks is cheaper than hardbacks. The
number of circulations (shelflife) is about 20 to 30 checkouts for a
paperback before it's too tattered. Some libraries purchase paperbacks and
then laminate the covers for added circulations. Some libraries order
classics and new releases in hardback and watch their circulation--if the
circulations are high, then when the book is released in paperback, they
purchase multiple copies so more patrons have access to the title. They
also order series and ''fluff'' in paperback.
Your responses confirmed how I feel about paperbacks vs. hardback
purchases. Thanks so much.
Dianne Stokes
McClintock Middle School Media
Charlotte, NC
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From: "Kathy Eaton" <eatonkathy@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: ya programs
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:57:37 CST
Hello. I need some advice from experienced YA librarians. I have (since
January) been charged with developing YA area, materials etc. At this point
I have garnered a separate space and ordered lots of new materials and this
week the place finally looks ready to advertise as our YA area. Now what?
How to get kids in to use the area and how about programming? Do YA's want
book groups or should I start with forming a YA advisory board. Our library
is not heavily frequented by teens but there are many who come in for
tutoring. Also I run a reading buddy program in the summer and thought the
senior buddies might be inclined to use the area. Is programming as
important as with children's area? Any and all suggestions are greatly
appreciated. Thanks. Kathy Eaton Please write to the list or directly if you
like to eatonkathy@hotmail.com
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From: "Beth DeGeer" <bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us>
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Subject: Storytime Rules
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Hi all:
I just felt the need to respond to this thread. When I first started in
this business eight years ago, Storytime had not been a part of my library
school education. Consequently, I learned to do storytime from the various
books that are available on the topic. I required registration, discouraged
parents from attending, enforced age limits, and discouraged wiggling.
All of that is gone now. We have six storytime sessions per week, 1/2 of
which are baby/toddler storytimes. Parents are welcome. Registration is
not required. We do action songs and wiggle and jump around after each
story. Storytime is loud. People can come and go during the storytime as
necessary. Why did I do this? Because what are we here for? Storytime
should be FUN. As long as everyone has a good time, hears some good books,
and has a postitive experience at the library, the rest is just not
important to me. It's not a sacred program that has to have a theme and a
craft and regimented absolute attention. My goals for storytime are to
demonstrate for parents what books are age-appropriate and fun to read to
their children and for children to have a positive experience at the
library. My Oklahoma collegues and I did a program at our conference last
year that is on the web: http://www.bartleville.lib.ok.us/storytime for
those who are interested in this approach.
I know that we all have really good reasons for the rules we enforce, and
I'm not trying to put anybody down, but I believe very strongly that the
less rules we impose upon our programs, the more likely we are to connect
with families who need the library.
So there ya go.
Beth DeGeer
Youth Services Librarian/PC Administrator
Bartlesville Public Library
600 S. Johnstone
Bartlesville, OK 74003
mailto:bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us
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From: "Downs-Reid, Patricia" <PDowns-Reid@mpls.lib.mn.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Adults in Storytime
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:01:49 CST
Rebecca:
At Minneapolis Public Library, we WELCOME parents and caregivers and
wouldn't have it any other way.
As for why, I can't say it any more eloquently than Rob Reid does in the
introduction to his book, Family Storytime: Twenty-Four Creative Programs
for All Ages.
"When parents and caregivers are present, the enjoyment and educational
aspects of the story program are heightened. The adults become positive
role models for the children for reading, reading-readiness activities, and
becoming life-long library users. Adults learn proper techniques for
reading aloud. They learn stories, fingerplays, songs, and activities.
They remember stories, songs, and fingerplays from their own childhood and
are thrilled to learn new ones. They may not admit it, but adults also
enjoy being read to."
He goes on to list even more ways in which adults can improve the storytime
experience.
Check it out.
Pat Downs-Reid
District Youth Services Librarian
Minneapolis Public Library
pdowns-reid@mpls.lib.mn.us
>>Why do you let
parents attend? Unless it is a special occasion
(Easter, Christmas) or Toddler Storytime,
parents in our library so not stay with their children
in storyhour. After all most of these
children are able to attend preschool alone, why not
storyhour? Are we the only library
that has such a rule?
Rebecca Stutzman
North Tonawanda Public Library
North Tonawanda, New York
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From: Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>
To: PUBYAC List <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Computers for kids
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:03:27 CST
For those of you who work with young children (preschool and early
elementary)...
What kinds of adaptations have you made to the computers set up for use by
this age group? Do you use special interface devices (keyboards,
mice/trackballs, etc.)? Do you set up the computer in a different way
(such as with the CPU away from the kids' hands, with the keyboard put
away, etc.)? What about the height of desks or chairs, or number of
chairs? Do you control their access to programs (keeping CDs behind the
desk, using a special interface)? Do you use Macs or PCs?
Thanks.
Maggi Rohde, University of Michigan student
maggi@intranet.org
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From: Terisa Brown <TerisaB@ci.hillsboro.or.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Determining finishers in Summer Reading Programs - Thank you!
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:04:54 CST
I would like to give a hearty thanks to everyone who sent us information
regarding using time spent reading rather than number of books read. We
have finally reached a decision. We have decided to let everyone choose one
of the following goals: reading 20 books, reading for 20 days, or reading
for 20 blocks of 15 minutes. If they reach their goal by the end of the
program they get to choose a free paperback book and they receive a
certificate of completion, stickers, and a small corporate, donated prize
(usually free food items or small toys).
If you are thinking of sending S. Fichtelberg (another PUBYACer weighing the
pros and cons of counting minutes vs. counting books) the same information
you sent to me, I will save you the trouble and send her my entire
collection of all your terrific responses (almost 30!) on the subject.
Thanks again! Long live PUBYAC!
> Terisa Brown
> Youth Services Librarian
> Hillsboro Public Libraries, OR
> Terisab@ci.hillsboro.or.us
>
>
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From: Carol Janoff <cjanoff@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Rudeness
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:06:26 CST
We require those attending Time for Twos (age 24-36 months) to attend with
an adult caregiver. These are the moms that cause all the trouble
(although recently ours have been very good).
The children in the 3-5-year storytimes attend without parents--no
adults allowed. These children generally behave much better without mom
or dad to act up for.
Anyone is welcome in the Family Storytimes in the evening.
Carol Janoff cjanoff@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us
Librarian I
Mesquite Branch Library
Phoenix, AZ
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From: Efrankbayer@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: reluctant readers
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:07:52 CST
I am in library school and am doing a paper on reluctant readers. I would
like to know what is your definition of reluctant reader. Is it someone who
has difficulty reading or is it someone who is a good reader but just doesn't
like to read. I found mixed definitions in the research I've read depending
on the year of the article. I will summarize the responses in a list. Thank
you. E. Frankbayer, Queens College at Efrankbayer @ aol.com
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From: Lulu6700@aol.com
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Question re: book clubs for teens
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As a newcomer to PUBYAC and still a student in Library school I am interested
in looking at the efficacy of book clubs in promoting literacy in teens. It
seems that most of the submissions I've read so far, having to do with book
clubs, are those geared toward younger readers. I'd appreciate any input on
this from librarians who have book clubs for teens in their libraries. Thank
you.
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From: Karen Cordiner <Karen_Cordiner@bc.sympatico.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Rudeness
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Rebecca,
What a good idea. This also gives parents a free half hour in which to
find books for themselves. This might be a selling point for libraries
wanting to adopt this policy.
Karen Cordiner
rebecca stutzman wrote:
>
> I'm sure it is very difficult for some of you who
> have open story hour rooms. However,
> I bring up a well-discussed subject to those who have
> meeting rooms. Why do you let
> parents attend? Unless it is a special occasion
> (Easter, Christmas) or Toddler Storytime,
> parents in our library so not stay with their children
> in storyhour. After all most of these
> children are able to attend preschool alone, why not
> storyhour? Are we the only library
> that has such a rule?
>
> Rebecca Stutzman
> North Tonawanda Public Library
> North Tonawanda, New York
>
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From: Susan Anderson-Newham <snewie@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Filters on the Internet
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:12:38 CST
Hi all,
Regarding the filtering issue, if it were only that
some material on the Internet would be made
unavailable due to filters I think many Libraries
would choose the filtering option. But don't rest too
easy when you choose filters because they don't work.
I stumbled upon one of those horrendous "now you can't
get out of this site" sites when I was searching for
(and I quote) "Girl Scout Songs". Out of curiousity I
tried the same search on our filtered terminals
(before the Lbrary was open, thank you very much) and
the first site offered was indeed the same dispicable
site. Filters are worse, IMHO because they give the
community a false sense of security. We parents are
just going to have to keep watching.
Susan
=====
Susan Anderson-Newham
Federal Way Regional Library
King County, WA
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From: Kim Kietzman <kkietzma@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Rudeness
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:14:16 CST
We ask parents to stay because philosophically we believe that reading
should be a family activity. We are modeling ways of sharing books,
reading the text, involving the children, and ideas on expanding on a
theme that parents can use at home. For me, storytime is just as much for
parents as for children.
Also, as a mother in a two-parent working household, I'm hesitant to do
anything that takes away from the very precious time I spend with my
child.
Kim Boynton Kietzman
Head of Extensions
Rock Island Public Library
Rock Island, IL
(309)732-7366
"Books say: she did this because. Life says: she did this. Books are where
things are explained to you; life is where things aren't." Julian Barnes
_Flaubert's Parrot_
Opinions expressed are solely that of the author and do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the Rock Island Public Library.
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From: Janet Hollingsworth <hollinja@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Bookmobile service to preschool children
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:15:51 CST
Dear Susan,
I am in charge of the bookmobile for Ashland Public Library in Ohio.
Our bookmobile serves schools and the communities throughout Ashland
county. I have done programming on and off the bookmobile (in the
classes - then the children visit the vehicle to check out materials).
It can be done and it is limited only by your space and imagination. To
answer some of your questions:
1. Maintenance depends on how old your vehicle is. Our bookmobile is 12
yrs old and the maintenance budget I allowed for the yr. 2000 is
$8,134.00 (this includes fuel (gas) and repairs.
2.My book/materials budget for this year is $56,241.(this includes pic.
books, non-fiction, magazine, standing orders, and audio books). Our
collection is dedicated but there are times when we borrow from the main
library. We are considered a branch of the library system.
2. I don't know how much our vehicle cost. New ones cost around
$100,000 give or take the size and manufacturer.
3. I hold a library tech degree and am working towards an MLS. The
positions in our department do not require someone with an MLS. That
would depend on your library.
4. We issue cards on the vehicle and allow the children to check out.
Our library requires parent/guardian signatures on the application forms
of minors. We follow our libray's policy. We do charge fines and
replacement costs for overdue or damaged materials.
5. We are not yet online. We save the information to disc and upload
it into the mainframe when we get in at the end of the day. We hope to
be online within two years.
I belong to Ohio Library Council - an organization that promotes
training and networking for all libraries in Ohio. We are getting ready
to have a Bookmobile Rally on June 1 and 2, in Friendship, Ohio at the
Shawnee State Park. There will be bookmbiles there from all over the
state. I think these rallies are the best information gathering
sessions that I have attended. Try to attend, if possible, to get your
questions answered. Contact: Ohio Library Council, 35 East Gay St.,
Suite 305, Columbus, OH. 43215. Phone (614)221-9057, Fax (614)
221-6234. Website: www.olc.org.
P.S. We are in the process of buying a new vehicle. Look into buying a
used one if cost is a factor. Our rally has vendors there that you
could talk to. If you can make it, look me up - I'll be around.
Good Luck!
Janet Hollingsworth
Extension Services
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From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Parents in story time
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:17:45 CST
We used to have a similar rule but changed it a few years ago. Yes,
we have sacrificed a little on the behavior front--the children
sometimes do manage better without parents in the room--but we feel
that including the parents (and sometimes little brothers and
sisters too) makes for a happier family experience. At a certain
level, we are modeling to the parents how to read and enjoy books
with children, and also how to handle squirmy children without
resorting to punishment. Plus, the parents like it! One relative
newcomer to story time was reading a book of sample programs while
his daughter picked out books after story time, and he was dismayed
to see that the author recommended excluding parents. "Do we have to
stay outside?" he asked. When I reassured him that he was welcome,
he was very relieved, because he enjoyed the stories for himself, and
for his daughter's enjoyment as well. And speaking as the parent of
a story time-age child, I really enjoy the story time gestalt too!
Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Public Library (207)284-4181
270 Main Street http://www.mcarthur.lib.me.us
Biddeford, ME 04005 vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us
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From: "Dorothy Holzman" <dorothyh@eauclaire.lib.wi.us>
To: "<"<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: pizza party for elementary ages
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:19:31 CST
Hello to everyone out there in pubyac! We are hosting a pizza party on April 15
for elementary age kids. Has anyone else done this? Do you have any ideas that
we could use? We want to do some pizza related crafts and books, as well as
serve real pizza
. We are limiting our program to 50 kids and are requesting registration. Any
ideas would be more than welcome. Please respond directly to me, not to the
group. TIA.
Dorothy Holzman
Library Associate, Youth Services
L. E. Phillips Mem. Public Library
400 Eau Claire St.
Eau Claire, WI 54701
715-839-5007
fax: 715-839-3822
email: dorothyh@eauclaire.lib.wi.us
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From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
To: "'publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu'"
<publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu>,
"'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: County Fairs
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:21:04 CST
Has anyone ever participated in a booth at a county fair? A group of
libraries in our county is planning on manning (or personning or womanning)
a booth at our county fair this summer. It will be powered for electricity.
We are trying to come up with doing something other than stand around and
hand out pieces of paper that will either be thrown away on the fair
grounds, or thrown away at home without being looked at. Story hours
probably wouldn't work, since we will probably one in a long line of booths.
Since this is in July, it sounds like we have a lot of time, but we need to
plan now. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Also, sorry for any duplication
of posts.
Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals/Audiovisual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL 60505
Phone: 630/264-4100
FAX: 630/896-3209
e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
www.aurora.lib.il.us
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From: Corey Bennett <bennetc@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
To: Pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Rudeness
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:22:50 CST
In my Story Times we also experience some of what the original poster
described...parents talking to each other, cell phones ringing...I have
also suggested to parents that they don't HAVE to be in the room with
their child. However, most of them opt to stay in the room with their
kids. Unfortunately, our Story Time room does not have glass windows that
parents could stand and look through. I'm torn on the issue. I have one
mom, for instance, who brings her 3-year-old and her 1-year-old. The older
child would be able to sit by himself, no problem, and she could keep the
little noisy one in the library. OTOH, we had a young girl who, two weeks
in a row, when Story Time ended, could not find her father, and got very
scared. He hadn't set up some kind of "meeting place" with her, and
was
very blase about her fears.
I think ultimately, that I don't mind having parents in the room during
the program, as long as they pay attention to their own kids, and set an
example of good behavior. This is something we remind our parents at the
beginning of the program, from time to time, and it usually has good
results.
Corey Bennett
New Tampa Regional Library
bennetc@hcplc.org
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The votes are in...life is now officially unfair.
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From: "Cindy Rider" <CRIDER@vigo.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Rudeness
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:24:15 CST
Our library encourages children to attend storytimes alone, but parents are
allowed to attend with them if they desire. Many of our children do NOT
attend preschool or participate in other group social situations. Also, for
some parents and children, storytime is an opportunity to do something
special together.
crider@vigo.lib.in.us
"Fantasy is not an attempt to escape reality, but is a way to cope with
it." - Pamela Service
>>> rebecca stutzman <rastutzman@yahoo.com> 03/24/00 11:22PM
>>>
I'm sure it is very difficult for some of you who have open story hour rooms.
However, I bring up a well-discussed subject to those who have
meeting rooms. Why do you let parents attend? .... most of these
children are able to attend preschool alone, why not storyhour? Are we
the only library that has such a rule?
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From: Janice Lyhane <janicel@bluevalley.net>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Catalog question
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:25:55 CST
I'd like to thank everyone for their ideas and suggestions for our "Tea
Party" storytime. We don't know for sure what we're going to do yet but
it is wonderful to have a selection to choose from.
Now I have another question. We are purchasing the book Amistad Rising:
A Story of Freedom by Veronica Chambers. The problem is we don't know
for sure where to catalog it, JF, J# or JP. If your library owns this
book could you please let me know where you shelve it? Send any replies
directly to me at janicel@bluevalley.net.
TIA
Janice Lyhane
Marysville Public Library
Marysville, KS
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From: "Mary J. Soucie" <mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Info needed about Internet Filters
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:27:28 CST
Hi all,
Please excuse the duplicate posting. I have searched the (LM_NET)
archives and
gotten information from there (when possible) but would also like some
first-hand responses to share with my colleague for who I'm posting this
query. I will compile a hit if there is any interest. Here's the query:
Hello. I am broadcasting this request for an SLS librarian who is also an
HTLS Board Member. Are any of you using filters for your public Internet
access? If so, would you let me know what filter you are using and whether
or not you like it? Also, what problems, if any, have you encountered with
the filter you're using?
Thanks very much,
Mary
--
Mary J. Soucie
Youth Services Consultant
Heritage Trail Library System
405 Earl Road
Shorewood IL 60431
815-729-3345 x110
815-725-0930 Fax
mailto:mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us
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From: Sarah Stone <stonesar@kcls.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: spanish storytimes?
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:28:53 CST
Hello PUBYACers,
I am about to begin doing some Spanish/bilingual storytimes. I thought I
remembered some books being talked about on this list. I had saved the
relevant post and even passed the title on to a co-worker but now I can't
find my copy! Same old sob story I know. But if anyone has any
reference-type books they found helpful I would appreicate hearing
about them. Please respond directly to me at stonesar@kcls.org and I can
post a compilation to the list. Thank you.
Sarah Stone
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Sarah W. Stone
Children's Librarian
Shoreline Library
King County Library System (WA)
stonesar@kcls.org
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From: linda <lmeuse@cherryhill.lib.nj.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Rudeness/Open storytimes
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:30:28 CST
I have always had open storytimes - it will be 10 years next month. I
have done this for two reasons. I am the only children's librarian and
I have no assistant. I would much rather have a happy child with a
parent than an unhappy child without a parent. I take three-year-olds
and for many this is a first time experience, even before preschool. In
addition, I firmly believe that a parent should have access to their
child at any time. Some parents stay, some don't. Some start out
staying and as their child is more confident and comfortable, they will
leave. If there are several 5 and 6 year-olds in the group, the younger
ones are more willing to do without mom so they can be like the big
kids. Every group is different. I have some parents that listen to the
stories with their child. I remember one father sitting on the floor
with his daughter in his lap at a Saturday morning storytime. Their
closeness and the look of contentment on the child's face made me think
that such moments were worth the inconveniences of an open program.
Most parents have been considerate and I have not had a major problem
with talking though over the years I have had to ask some moms to
converse outside the room. I wait until after the program to ask them
to do so the following week. There is an area outside the meeting room
where people can sit and talk. Younger siblings are also allowed with
the understanding that they be removed if they become disruptive. I
have just recently had the problem of cell phones ringing but so far the
parents have left the room to talk. During the past year I have added a
craft to the program so having the parents/caregivers available is a big
help. Most come back at the end to help their child. I think it is
important to set the tone at the beginning of the program. Let the
parents and children know what is acceptable behavior and what isn't.
It is also easier to control a small group. Most of my sessions have
around 12 children though I have had as many as 45 in the summer but I
have student volunteers then. One has to be flexible and willing to put
up with minor irritations. I think that every library and community is
different and each librarian has to work out what is best for his/her
situation. I know my storytime has evolved over the years to what works
best for me.
Linda Meuse
Children's Librarian
Cherry Hill (NJ) Public Library
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From: Debbie Austin <daustin@scfl.lib.ca.us>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: book recommendations by kids
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:31:59 CST
Help!
One of our colleagues brought back material from the last CLA
that included a very creative book recommendation form as part
of a summer reading program. We have unfortunately lost it in
our departmental remodeling, and would love to get another copy.
To tell you the truth, we aren't even positive it was from CLA,
that's just our best memory!
Does anyone remember it? Do you know where it's from? It was
pretty much fill-in-the-blank short answer (no intimidating blank
sheet of paper) with very creative questions.
Actually we would love to hear from anyone who has created any
kind of book recommendation form for kids. What kinds of questions
did you ask? What type of questions elicit the most insightful
answers?
Please give us your best questions - we'll post a compliation of
responses, if anyone is interested. E-mail responses to
daustin@scfl.lib.ca.us
Thank you so much!
Stanislaus Co. Children's Dept.
1500 I St., Modesto, CA 95354
FAX: (209)558-8273
Phone: (209) 558-7810
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From: Ann Mahon <mahona@pls.lib.ca.us>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper: Bedtime story fragment
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:33:37 CST
Hello all
a patron is looking for a bedtime story from the 80's with the phrase
"I'll see you in the morning,
When the sky is blue and the grass is always green"
Does this sound familiar to anyone?
I checked variations of phrases as title words but didn't get anywhere.
Thanks for the brain power.
Ann Mahon
South San Francisco Public Library
mahona@pls.lib.ca.us
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From: Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: woodland stumper solved
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:35:05 CST
Thank you to everyone who suggested "The Tenement Tree," by Kate
Seredy.
It certainly fit the description of a compilation of stories about forest
animals living in an apartment buidling-like tree.
However, the title for which the girl was looking is "Meet the Woodland
Folk," by Tony Wolf. It's a European (British?) children's book. There
are at least 4 titles in the series, all of which are out of print.
Thanks, everyone!
Robin
R. Shtulman
Erving Elementary School
28 Northfield Road
Erving, MA 01344
shtulman@erving.com
http://www.erving.com/library/erving_library.htm
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From: Nancy Randle <nrandle@tbpl.thunder-bay.on.ca>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Video Stumper
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:36:43 CST
We have a patron with a 2 year old daughter who is looking for a video that
features a pianist (perferably a child) to inspire/motivate her child.
Perferably using the
Suzuki method. If there is anyone who knows of such a video the
information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Nancy
Randle
Nancy Randle Children's Library Technician
nrandle@tbpl.thunder-bay.on.ca
Thunder Bay Public Library
285 Red River Road
Thunder Bay, Ontario
P7B 1A9
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From: Katherine Grace Sheppard <kgsheppa@is2.dal.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: stumper...johnny and the bear?
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:38:15 CST
Hello everyone.
A friend is wondering about a book he read as a 5-6 year old in the 1960s.
He thinks that it was called _Johnny and the Bear_. It is a picture book
about a boy and a bear and a maple syrup farm in Vermont (he thinks). He
says that the pictures are similar to Robert McCloskey's work, but the
book is not _Blueberries for Sal_. This is all that he can remember, and
I am not any help. Can you help him? Thanks!
Grace.
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From: Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Jersey devil
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:39:55 CST
Hi, All:
Warning: this one might be tough!
I have a fifth grade student who is interested in stories of the Jersey
Devil. However, every title I have been able to locate is VERY grisly and
decidedly too adult for him. Would any of you out there be able to
recommend something to satisfy his curiosity that would not result in me
being responsible for introducing him to rape, women sexually consorting
with devils, and murdered midwives?
Thanks!
Robin
R. Shtulman
Erving Elementary School
28 Northfield Road
Erving, MA 01344
shtulman@erving.com
http://www.erving.com/library/erving_library.htm
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