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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 00:01:16 CDT

Subject: PUBYAC digest 132

PUBYAC Digest 132

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) RE: Harry Potter--Christian Viewpoint

by Harriett Smith <harriett@darkwing.uoregon.edu>

2) Re: Graphic novels

by David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>

3) Re: Graphic novels

by "Dawn Imada" <dawnimada@hotmail.com>

4) cataloging calvin and hobbes?

by marp3@mc.net

5) Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday

by Sally Jeanne Kappler <sjk@curtislibrary.com>

6) Re: Graphic novels

by "A. Creech" <alisonc@is2.dal.ca>

7) Re: New Moon Magazine

by Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>

8) Re: A good kindergarten visit....

by Simpson <jsimpson03@snet.net>

9) Re: A good kindergarten visit....

by Helen Cowan <hcowan@vineland.lib.nj.us>

10) RE: Graphic novels

by "Hudson, Sarah" <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>

11) Re: Book Discussions

by MEM4Books@aol.com

12) Young Explorer

by Carol Leeson <cleeson@nslsilus.ORG>

13) Re: New Moon Magazine

by "M. Mills" <mmills@stic.lib.tx.us>

14) Re: A good kindergarten visit....

by "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>

15) Re: Special Education Storytime

by Mary Jean Hartel <hartelm@mail.clarke.public.lib.ga.us>

16) RE: A good kindergarten visit....

by Jonathan Betz-Zall <JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org>

17) RE: New Moon Magazine

by Jonathan Betz-Zall <JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org>

18) Re: A good kindergarten visit....

by Mildred Bernstein <tomildred@yahoo.com>

19) RE: Graphic novels

by Laura Whaley <WHALEYL@santacruzpl.org>

20) COMPUTERS: request for info about hardware and software

by "Rebecca" <Storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>

21) Re: A good kindergarten visit....

by jill heffner <jillh1018@yahoo.com>

22) Library sleepovers permission forms

by marshalj@mpl.on.ca (Janis Marshall)

23) Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday

by "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>

24) Job Opening, Tuscaloosa Public Library, Alabama

by Richard Freemon <rfreemon@yahoo.com>

25) Fwd: Ref Q: Fish Pic. Bk.

by "Jackie Corinth" <Corinth@robert-morris.edu>

26) Stumper solved

by Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org>

27) RE: Stumper Thanks: Ear Trumpet

by Julie Linneman <juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us>

28) IFRT Program: Freedom of Expression Versus Tolerance:

Exploring the Limits

by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>

29) Stumper...Schools out

by "P_Marie (Marie McDermed)" <P_Marie@KCLIBRARY.ORG>

30) Re: Stumper - Girl who lives in a logging town, with pet mouse

by Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>

31) Stumper...Schools out solved

by "P_Marie (Marie McDermed)" <P_Marie@KCLIBRARY.ORG>

32) Chocolate Party

by "Baraboo Children's Dept." <barch@scls.lib.wi.us>

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From: Harriett Smith <harriett@darkwing.uoregon.edu>

To: Elaine Thomas <ethomas@zblibrary.org>

Subject: RE: Harry Potter--Christian Viewpoint

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:08:53 CDT

 

Dear All,

As a lurker, I've been following this conversation with interest, and

passing some of the posts on to a friend who is a Congregational minister.

I thought his reply might interest some of you.

"The most basic level of meaning in the Harry Potter novels is in the

portrayal of a not remarkably gifted person who is nonetheless able to do

astonishing things. He displays tremendous power in the moments of need.

His power has two sources: 1) He has friends who share commitment; 2) He

recognizes the moments when he must do his part and he is willing to try

-- he doesn't avoid doing what he is called on to do. The power in these

two realities is inestimable. Recognizing, accepting, acting with this

power is fundamentally a stance of faith." --David Zaworski

Harriett

harriett smith

library system, university of oregon, eugene 97403

harriett@darkwing.uoregon.edu

On Wed, 3 May 2000, Elaine Thomas wrote:

> I wish to thank Mary Johnson for her thoughtful and eloquent words

> concerning the "Christian Viewpoint" of Harry Potter. I ask that the

> members of this listserv to keep in mind that there are many persons who are

<snip>

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From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Graphic novels

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:13:55 CDT

Well lets see. The main characters of "A Game of You" include two

lesbians (one of who is pregnant after a one-night stand), and a

Preoprative Transexual named Wanda. Anyway some others have sex, nudity,

language, etc. However, they also have wonderful stories.

Dave

 

 

David Serchay

a013213t@bc.seflin.org

 

On Wed, 3 May 2000, Robin Del Guidice wrote:

> I have another graphic novel question for all of you who have done it.

> One of the titles that has won awards is the Sandman series. The DC

> catalog, however, lists it "For Mature Audiences." How mature? We have a

> relatively conservative clientele, I plan to make this a YA collection.

> Is this appropriate?

>

> Thanks again.

> --

> Robin Del Guidice

> Youth Services Specialist/Collection Development Services

> Tampa Hillsborough County Public Library

> 900 N. Ashley St., Tampa, FL 33602

> Phone: (813) 272-5018 Fax:(813) 272-5717

> e-mail: guidicr@thpl.org

> **************************************************************************************

>

> "Many things we need can wait, children cannot...... To Them we cannot

> say tomorrow, their name is today."

> Gabriela Mistral

> **************************************************************************************

>

>

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From: "Dawn Imada" <dawnimada@hotmail.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Graphic novels

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:16:10 CDT

Hi Robin,

If your YA area is frequented mostly by 17-18 year olds, the Sandman graphic

novels might work in your YA area. If your YA area is mostly frequented by

12-14 year olds, the Sandman graphic novels might work better in the Adult

area.

The stories are interesting and the illustrations are beautiful, but

sometimes very graphic. You might want to preview a couple of Sandman

titles before deciding whether to add the Sandman graphic novels to the YA

area or the Adult area. Also, since you say that your clientele is

relatively conservative, the Sandman graphic novels might work better in the

Adult area.

Just my 2 cents.

Dawn

dawnimada@hotmail.com

dawn.imada@ci.sj.ca.us

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From: marp3@mc.net

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: cataloging calvin and hobbes?

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:18:01 CDT

Hello Pubyacers!

We have decided to buy the Calvin and Hobbes comic strip books. I was wondering, those of you that own them, where do you put them in your collection? Childrens? Adult? Fiction? Non-Fiction? Are there any other comic strip books that circulate well, such as Baby Blues or For Better For Worse? I appreciate the help!

Elizabeth Riak

Marengo Public Library

marp3@mc.net

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From: Sally Jeanne Kappler <sjk@curtislibrary.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:20:02 CDT

Suzanne --

I'm not from Alabama but I don't see any conflict with this. If Lincoln's

birthday (2/12) can be combined with Washington's (2/22) as President's

Day, why not King's (1/14) and Lee's (1/19)?

At 09:24 PM 5/3/00 -0500, you wrote:

>

>Dear Pubyackers:

>

>I discovered, quite by accident, that in Alabama they celebrate Martin

>Luther King Jr/Robert E. Lee's Birthday the same day. How do they do this?

>Can anyone from Alabama give us some insight because we are really curious.

>

>Thanks!

>

>Suzanne McElfresh

>

>smcelfresh@npls.org

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From: "A. Creech" <alisonc@is2.dal.ca>

To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Re: Graphic novels

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:21:56 CDT

Sandman is pretty disturbing. There are some pretty nasty characters and

disturbing situations. It's definitely intended for an adult audience, or

for those who are reading at adult level. While I really enjoyed it, I

have to admit that some of the nastier characters actually gave me the

creeps. And some of the situations are really really disturbing. They

include things like rape, self mutilation, and a horde of others (anybody

who's read them could probably come up with half a dozen disturbing scenes

just of the top of their heads!). Yet, the series also contains some of

the most thought-provoking storylines I've read in a while.

However, after saying all that, we have them in our library in the Young

Adult Graphic Novel collection. However, that might be because we don't

have an Adult Graphic Novel collection (adult graphic novels just get

shelved in the 740s).

Alison

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From: Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: New Moon Magazine

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:24:44 CDT

Hello:

I previwed "New Moon" for our elementary school library and loved it. The

students who saw it loved it, too. They are somewhat mature 6th graders.

I ended up not subscribing b/c we have so few kids who are ready for it.

If my lib served a middle school audience, I would DEFINITELY have

subscribed.

My 2 cents,

Robin

R. Shtulman

Erving Elementary School

28 Northfield Road

Erving, MA 01344

shtulman@erving.com

http://www.erving.com/library/erving_library.htm

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From: Simpson <jsimpson03@snet.net>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: A good kindergarten visit....

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:26:43 CDT

We are doing some right now. One of our librarians made a giant book,

with cloth straps on it so someone can wear it. Inside is a poem about

how to take care of a book. I wear the big book, while Tess reads the

poem. She also has her mischevious monkey puppet who wants to put gum

in the book, eat the pages, etc. When the monkey comes after the book,

I run away from it until she gets the monkey to behave. The kids love

it!

Then we do a quick tour of the dept, a craft (make your own bookmark)

and a storytime about visiting a library.

If you can get the teachers to bring in library card applications ahead

of time, you can distribute cards to the kids and they can also check

out their first book as part of the program.

Ours lasts about an hour and is a big success.

Martha Simpson, Stratford (CT) Library

 

 

vmenor wrote:

>

> Does anyone have any suggestions on running a good kindergarten class visit?

> The teacher is looking for a 30-45 minute introduction to the library, the

> children's section, what the librarian does, and time permitting a story or

> two. I haven't done a class visit before, and I'd really like to get off on

> the right foot with the school. I would really appreciate any suggestions

> that you may have on what to do and what to avoid.

>

> Thanks,

> Vanessa Menor

> vmenor@is2.dal.ca

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From: Helen Cowan <hcowan@vineland.lib.nj.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: A good kindergarten visit....

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:28:36 CDT

Dear Vanessa,

At our library, we take kindergarteners on a tour, tell them how to get a

library card, and briefly go over behavior. The main part of the visit is a

story time, and I usually like to start them off with I Took My Frog to the

Library by Eric A. Kimmel, followed by about 5 or 6 other stories (keep some

interactive). After the stories are done, I take them to the Easy Reader

section, show them how to put books away (they're color-coded) and let them look

at books on their own. We then give them a coloring sheet to take back to

school with them. The visit lasts an hour.

We limit classes to 30 children and the teacher stays with them the entire

time. The kids especially like the part of the tour that takes them into back

offices and behind the circulation desk because they're not normally allowed in

those areas.

Hope this helps!

Helen Cowan

Children's/Young Adult Librarian

Vineland Public Library

Vineland, NJ 08360

 

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From: "Hudson, Sarah" <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: Graphic novels

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:30:21 CDT

I'm not familiar with that series, but one of DC's reps was at PLA. I think

I

recall him saying that the graphic novels that do not adhere to the "comic

book code" are for more mature audiences. If you are in a conservative

community and the catalog says the title is for "Mature audiences", I would

pass on the title for the YA collection. You could always put it in the

adult

collection if you wanted YAs to have access to the title.

Just my opinion.

Sarah

Sarah Hudson

Information Specialist

Independence Regional Library

Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County

shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us

These opinions are my own and do not reflect those of the library

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From: MEM4Books@aol.com

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Book Discussions

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:32:21 CDT

Laura,

I am a children's librarian and had the pleasure of conducting book

discussions with children for several years. Also, I partnered with a fellow

librarian to present information to many groups on reader's advisory service

for children titled "Do You Have Any Good Books Here." This presentation was

published in 1997 in Serving Readers, ed. Ted Balcom, published by Highsmith

Press (ISBN 0-917846-74-5). This presentation includes information on how to

organize and implement a book dicsussion group for children. The discussions

that I have facilitated were also for 4th and 5th graders so I think you will

find the material particularly helpful. As a librarian trainee, I know you

will also find the other articles in the book very interesting. Good luck.

Mary Ellen Middleton

Naperville, IL

mem4books@aol.com

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From: Carol Leeson <cleeson@nslsilus.ORG>

To: Pubyac <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Subject: Young Explorer

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:33:59 CDT

We have our Young Explorer computer desk and computer set up in our

children's room. So far we love it. It is brightly colored and

attractive. It comfortably seats two children. The KidDesk interface is

easy to use. And best of all the desk is constructed with side baffles

so that the computer user can hear the sound just find, but we do not

hear it at the reference desk (or in ohter parts of the room). The

volume control by the way is behind a cover that has to be removed with a

screwdriver. If anybody is looking for new computer furniture this has

been a winner so far. To bad you can't get it without the computer.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Carol Leeson

Head of Youth Services

Mount Prospect Public Library

10 S. Emerson

Mt. Prospect, Il 60056

(847)253-5675

cleeson@mppl.org

The opinions expressed here are my own and do not reflect those of the Library.

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From: "M. Mills" <mmills@stic.lib.tx.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: New Moon Magazine

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:36:28 CDT

New Moon is a wonderful magazine "for girls and their dreams". It contains

b&W photos and girls write about other girls (with positive strokes

included). The scope is multicultural. The girls recommend about 24 titles

for reading in the May/June 2000 issue, for instance, and "Voice Box" article

at end of issue includes the girls' opinions on hot topics (May/June's being

"Censorship"). Other girls are encouraged to reply to issue topics. I

personally think all libraries should subscribe to New Moon, the Magazine for

Girls and Their Dreams. Girls ages 9-14 are usually featured in magazine.

The current subscription rate is 6 issues/year & costs $29.00. The issues

are worth every penny...

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From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: A good kindergarten visit....

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:38:20 CDT

I am usually heavy on the stories & fun and light on the

"introduction" part. I like to arrange for the teacher to send

library card applications home with the kids for the parents to sign.

The teacher then verifies address info, etc. against school records

and ideally delivers the pile of completed apps before the day of the

program, so we can have the cards all ready for the kids when they

get to the library. When they do arrive, I am very brief about my

role: "I help kids find the books they want, and I like to read

stories to kids like you." They don't give a fig about reference

services. Then I tell them what they can get with their library

cards and that they have to return their books in 3 weeks, then I do

a short story time. I end the session by taking the kids to the

picture book section and letting them loose to pick out books to take

home with their brand-new library cards.

It's quick, chaotic, and fun. All you want to do with kindergartners

is to reinforce the idea that libraries are fun, that books are

wonderful, and that librarians are nice. Remember, they're only one

year older than your preschoolers, and not light-years more advanced.

Good luck!

> Does anyone have any suggestions on running a good kindergarten

class visit?

> The teacher is looking for a 30-45 minute introduction to the library, the

> children's section, what the librarian does, and time permitting a story or

> two. I haven't done a class visit before, and I'd really like to get off on

> the right foot with the school. I would really appreciate any suggestions

> that you may have on what to do and what to avoid.

>

> Thanks,

> Vanessa Menor

> vmenor@is2.dal.ca

>

>

>

Vicky Smith

Children's Librarian

McArthur Public Library (207)284-4181

270 Main Street http://www.mcarthur.lib.me.us

Biddeford, ME 04005 vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us

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From: Mary Jean Hartel <hartelm@mail.clarke.public.lib.ga.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Special Education Storytime

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:40:11 CDT

>How glad I am that you are offering a program to them!!! I'm speaking now

as a young adult librarian and mother of a 12 year old daughter with Down

syndrome. I'll tell you what works for me.

>

>Be yourself. I introduce myself as I would to any other group. Then I ask

everyone else to say their name and if I'm feeling really goofy I ask them

to give an answer to a simple questions (favorite color, favorite food,

favorite thing they're going to do today). Make your body language very

clear as to which person you are talking to--good eye contact, smile. You

will have to wait longer for a response even to their name but take your

time. I always make the teachers participate too same as I would in a

regular program.

>

>I tell stories or read stories (ask their teacher if they are working on

anything in particular in the classroom). I know that much of what I say or

read will be above their heads, but really, it's alright!!!! Don't

underestimate what they're taking in. It's not only the program that you

are providing, but your personal attention, the trip to the library, the

opportunity to be out and about in the community.

>

>You will become more comfortable with practice.

>

>MJ

>

>

Mary Jean Hartel The early bird gets the worm,

Young Adult/AV Librarian But the second mouse gets the cheese.

Athens Regional Library

2025 Baxter Street

Athens, GA 30606

hartelm@mail.clarke.public.lib.ga.us

706/613-3650, ext. 323

FAX 706/613-3660

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From: Jonathan Betz-Zall <JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: A good kindergarten visit....

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:42:00 CDT

I don't think kindergarteners will retain much factual content from a class

visit, but they will remember how many cool resources and great stories they

saw there and what a fun and helpful person the librarian was. So, when I

host a visit I take the children on a quick walking tour, point out our most

attractive resources, show them our catalog terminals (which have lots of

colorful graphics on them) and do a portion of a preschool storytime--lots

of songs and games as well as stories. Hope this helps!

Jonathan Betz-Zall, Children's Librarian

Edmonds Library, Washington

JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org (425)771-1933

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From: Jonathan Betz-Zall <JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: New Moon Magazine

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:43:59 CDT

We've been getting New Moon since 1997. As a feminist adult I like it very

much-- most of the articles are inspiring accounts of how girls grew into

successful women. Production values are high--great graphics, quality paper,

etc. It doesn't circulate as well as our nature and general interest

magazines, but it's certainly worth having. HTH!

Jonathan Betz-Zall, Children's Librarian

Edmonds Library, Washington

JBetz-Zall@sno-isle.org (425)771-1933

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From: Mildred Bernstein <tomildred@yahoo.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: A good kindergarten visit....

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:46:02 CDT

I have been doing some kindergarten class visits.

When the children arrive, they take off their coats

and then form two lines (the teachers here use line

leaders). We take a tour of the library. I explain

to them that "this is where the librarian's sit";

these are fiction books "Can anyone name things that

are fiction". Captain Underpants, Harry Potter; this

is non-fiction. "What can you find in non-fiction?"

books about animals, pets, states, countries, etc. We

then go to the picture books and books for beginning

readers. We have a room where we finish the class

visit. This room, I explain, is also where some of

the programs are held such as Stories and Snacks - for

K-2, and some of our craft programs. I try to read

three to four picture books and do songs in between

the readings. I have done "Wheels on the bus" and

"Five Little Monkeys" and "Old MacDonald." The kids

then are able to check out books. We send the

applications home and receive them back from the

teacher at least three weeks before the visit so they

can be processed. The books they choose is already

preselected and placed on a table. The kids can take

any one book from the table that they want. The books

are checked out and the class returns to their school.

If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to

e-mail me.

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From: Laura Whaley <WHALEYL@santacruzpl.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: Graphic novels

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:47:56 CDT

We have the Sandman series in our YA collection. I would hazard a guess and

say it is appropriate for 14+ years. It has proved to be very popular with

teens and adults who enjoy sci-fi/fantasy.

Laura Whaley

Boulder Creek Branch Library

Boulder Creek, CA

History, unlike story, is untidy with its endings.

-Jane Yolen

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From: "Rebecca" <Storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>

To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: COMPUTERS: request for info about hardware and software

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:49:37 CDT

Dear Pubyaccers,

I'm seeking user feedback on 2 items:

1) What type of PC, with specifications, would you recommend as a stand

alone station. It will be used exclusively for educational games loaded

direct to the hard drive.

2)What software titles to you have (that you'd recommend) loaded on your

children's room game computer?

TIA for any input you have.

Rebecca Cohen

Newport Public Library

Newport, Oregon

<storyweaver@newportlibrary.org>

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From: jill heffner <jillh1018@yahoo.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: A good kindergarten visit....

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:51:25 CDT

Do not--I repeat, DO NOT--point out restrooms or

drinking fountains!

Why? Because then every child in the group will need

to go to the bathroom or get a drink! Yes, this is

from personal experience:-)

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From: marshalj@mpl.on.ca (Janis Marshall)

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Subject: Library sleepovers permission forms

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:53:04 CDT

 

Hello,

Would anyone out there who has hosted a library sleepover be willing to

share your copy of the permission/release form that the parents must sign?

We are hoping to hold one this summer for preteens but the insurance

people are throwing up so many red flags? Any tips regarding emergency

procedures. Although we would like to hear from Canadian libraries to get

a Canadian prespective I would love to hear from anyone. Thanks, Janis

Marshall

Janis Marshall

Milton Public Library

Milton Ontario

Fax: (905) 875-4324

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From: "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Robert E. Lee's birthday

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:55:10 CDT

Robert E. Lee/Martin Luther King Jr. Day is a State of Alabama holiday. A State of Alabama holiday, from what I understand, entitles the employees of the State of Alabama to a day off to be celebrated as that employee wishes.

If I remember correctly, the Robert E. Lee's B'day (01-19-1807) holiday was a State holiday long before Martin Luther King, Jr. B'day (01-15-1929) became a Federal holiday (and therefore a State holiday). The State Legislature,

or whichever entity establishes State recognized holidays, recognized the need to reduce the number of State sanctioned days off during the month of January. Thus the two birthday celebrations were combined.

The thing to remember is that this combination of the celebration of the two birthdays is a peculiarity of State of Alabama employment. There is a certain logic in the juxtaposition of these two leaders of civil unrest, but the

general public does not connect the two. MLKJr. Day is a Federal holiday; and, as such, banks and schools are closed. Way back, when I was in school and the dinosaurs roamed, I do not recall that Robert E. Lee's B'day was

recognized in any way. Believe me, if there was a holiday involved, I would have remembered it.

grace

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From: Richard Freemon <rfreemon@yahoo.com>

To: PubYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Job Opening, Tuscaloosa Public Library, Alabama

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:56:58 CDT

Children's Services Librarian, Tuscaloosa Public

Library, a medium sized library located in a college

town, seeks creative, energetic, service-oriented

individual to plan, develop, and promote children's

services. Duties include: Children's programming,

collection development, staff supervision,

collaborative programming with schools, daycares, etc.

and direct assistance to patrons using print and

non-print resources. Qualifications: MLS from an ALA

accredited program, some experience working with

children. Requires knowledge of children's

literature, interpersonal skills, and general

knowledge of computers and library applications.

Salary Range: $27,500 - $30,000 with benefits. Send

letter of application, resume, and three professional

references: Nancy C. Pack, Director, Tuscaloosa Public

library 1801 Jack Warner Parkway, Tuscaloosa, AL

35401-1099. npack@tuscaloosa-library.org. Closing

Date: July 12, 2000.

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From: "Jackie Corinth" <Corinth@robert-morris.edu>

To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Subject: Fwd: Ref Q: Fish Pic. Bk.

Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:58:39 CDT

Dear all,

Thank you for all of the responses to my fish stumper. The title I was

looking for is "Fish out of water" by Helen Palmer. You guys rock!

Sincerely,

Jackie

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From: Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Stumper solved

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Thank you to those who responded to my stumper about the indian boy who

is taken from his parents and rides broncos in rodeos. The consensus is

that the book is When the Legends Die by Hal Borland. I've contacted my

patron and I thank you for your help.

Kim Flores

Springfield MO

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From: Julie Linneman <juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: RE: Stumper Thanks: Ear Trumpet

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:02:08 CDT

Thank you to Debra Lodge in South Carolina for her help with my stumper

about the rhyming book about the elderly man whose wife speaks to him

through an ear trumpet and she says "Come get your beer." She came up

with a very likely possibility in the book "Aunt Shaw's Pet Jug" by

Holman Day Thorndike, 1983, illustrated by Tim Sample. (OP) She states

that it is not really for kids, but he's kind of a cross between Snuffy

Smith and Mr. Natural (I know the first one but not the second), and it's

from a 1930's poem.

I really thank her for helping with this unusual (and hard to find)

request.

Julie Linneman

juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us

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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>

Subject: IFRT Program: Freedom of Expression Versus Tolerance:

Exploring the Limits

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Freedom of Expression Versus Tolerance: Exploring the Limits

http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/ifrt_prg.html

Saturday, July 8, from 2:00-4:00 p.m.

McCormick Convention Center, N226

Chicago, IL

The program concerns the challenge that hate speech represents to the classic freedom of expression values of ALA, ACLU, and others concerned with preserving First Amendment rights. Speakers will present the perspectives of ACLU, those concerned with racial equality, and gay rights advocates on this difficult issue. The program is intended to help librarians develop their own views in this area where the limits of protected speech are often difficult to define.

 

 

 

_________________________

Don Wood

American Library Association

Office for Intellectual Freedom

50 East Huron Street

Chicago, IL 60611

312-280-4225

800-545-2433, ext. 4225

Fax: 312-280-4227

http://www.ala.org/oif.html

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From: "P_Marie (Marie McDermed)" <P_Marie@KCLIBRARY.ORG>

To: "'PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children '"

<pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Stumper...Schools out

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Everyone knows the chant/rhyme/play song until we try to pin it down. We

think we may have two mixed up. Our customer wants something in print.

It may go...Schools out, Schools out

Something about...Teachers let the monkeys out.

and ...No more ??? (probably pencils)

No more Books

No more teachers dirty looks.

We know that Alice Cooper used it in one of his songs...but need a more

authoritative source. If you can help, send the answer to

P_marie@kclibrary.org. and I will post the answer. Thanks, mm

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From: Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Stumper - Girl who lives in a logging town, with pet mouse

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:07:45 CDT

Many thanks to Chuch Schacht, Cecilia McGowan, Farida

Shapiro, Melissa Karnosh, Mary Ann Gilpatrick, and all the

others who provided answers to this stumper. The little girl

is Opal Whitney. There are several versions of her diary

available:

1. Opal: The Journal of an Understanding Heart, adapted by

Jane Boulton

2. Only Opal, by Whitley and Boulton, picture book version

with illustrations by Barbara Cooney

3. The Singing Creek Where The Willows Grow: The

Rediscovered Diary of Opal Whitley, Presented by Benjamin

Hoff (1986)

4. The Story of Opal (Atlantic Monthly, 1920)

Thanks so much! I'm in awe at how quickly I received an

answer.

Jean Hewlett

North Bay Cooperative Library System, Santa Rosa CA

hewlett@usfca.edu

 

Jean Hewlett wrote:

>

> Once again I appeal to the collective wisdom of the list

> Our patron is searching for a book she read as a child. She

> doesn't remember the author, title, or exactly when she read

> it.

>

> She does remember that it was written as a journal or diary

> of a little girl in a logging town. She makes friends with a

> mouse named "Theodore Meadolson" whom she carries in her

> pocket. Both her parents have died, and she goes to live

> with another logging family.

>

> If this rings a bell for anyone, please let me know. Any

> suggestions would be greatly received. Thanks!

>

> Jean Hewlett

> North Bay Cooperative Library System, Santa Rosa CA

> nbclsref@sonic.net

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From: "P_Marie (Marie McDermed)" <P_Marie@KCLIBRARY.ORG>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Stumper...Schools out solved

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:09:52 CDT

While we did not find the history behind the rhyme...not like Opie...we did

find it in print. It is in the 1976 book, One potato Two potato; the secret

education of American children, by Mary Knapp, Norton Pub.

School's out, school's out

Teacher let the monkeys out

no more pencils, no more books,

No more Teachers's dirty looks.

The daring child would say:

School's out, school's out

Teacher let the monkeys out

One flew east, one flew west,

One went up the teacher's dress!

If anyone else finds a history or earlier source, I would like to have that

information. Thanks, mm

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From: "Baraboo Children's Dept." <barch@scls.lib.wi.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Chocolate Party

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:11:57 CDT

The description/result of the Chocolate Party talked about on this list was

deleted before we could read it. Would whoever posted it please post again

or just send e-mail directly to us. Thanks! barch@scls.lib.wi.us

Karen

Baraboo PL

Baraboo WI

Youth Services Staff

Baraboo Public Library

230 4th Ave., Baraboo WI 53913

Phone: 608-356-6166 FAX: 608-355-2779

barch@scls.lib.wi.us

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