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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 00:01:09 CDT Subject: PUBYAC digest 190 PUBYAC Digest 190 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Harry Potter books by David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org> 2) Re: left behind by David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org> 3) Re: Harry Potter by "Mary J. Soucie" <mjsoucie@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us> 4) RE: Harry Potter copies by "Kozloff, Rae" <raek@cityofanacortes.org> 5) Re: Harry Potter copies by Cindi Carey <ccarey@timberland.lib.wa.us> 6) Harry Potter placement by Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us> 7) Re: Shelving Picture Books by "S. Fichtelberg" <sfichtel@infolink.org> 8) Thanks for Your Replies to Shelving by toni whiney <whitneto@oplin.lib.oh.us> 9) Re: Library Renovation by CV Childrens <cvjuve@oplin.lib.oh.us> 10) RE: Harry Potter books by Marie McColley <mccolley@jefferson.lib.co.us> 11) Reference/Children's Librarian Position Available by "Kelley, Judy" <JKelley@city.newport-beach.ca.us> 12) RE: Shelving Picture Books by JANE BAIRD <LIJHB@library.ci.anchorage.ak.us> 13) Re: Harry Potter by JANE BAIRD <LIJHB@library.ci.anchorage.ak.us> 14) Re: Need more response to exempt by Hedy_Harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us 15) RE: [Fwd: Christian Fiction or propaganda] by caes@pacificrim.net 16) Re: Collection placement of advanced picture books by Paulalef@aol.com 17) Research Paper-Prison Libraries, Access , etc. by Karen Brost <kmbrost@earthlink.net> 18) RE:ready reference for telephone service by DHALO426@aol.com 19) Re: Harry Potter placement by "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@hotmail.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Harry Potter books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:31:17 CDT Broward County keeps getting more and more. Everytime I check the amount keeps going up (though with that crowd in the bookstore last night I'm not sure how many will go through us :) ) David
David Serchay a013213t@bc.seflin.org ------------------------------ From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: left behind MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:11 CDT Has anyone else had patrons ask for both the Left Behind books AND the Harry Potters? David
David Serchay a013213t@bc.seflin.org ------------------------------ From: "Mary J. Soucie" <mjsoucie@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Harry Potter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:48:54 CDT Hi all, I was at my local bookstore last night at 1:00. I walked in and got my number, "67", and then waited. At 12:01 they started lining people up in batches of 25, including those who had reserved copies. After the first 25, they even started putting us in numerical order. The local paper had a reported there and when I commented to the clerk how wonderful I thought the staff was that night, being open so late, dealing with us "Harry nuts, etc. the reporter started asking me why I was there, who was the book for (me of course! 8-]), and other questions. What fun! Despite the fact that I knew I'd be going to ALA today, I had to start it and so far am not dissapointed! Can't wait to finish it. Happy Reading everyone! 8-) Mary Mary J. Soucie Youth Services Consultant Heritage Trail Library System 815-729-3345 x110 mailto:mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us ------------------------------ From: "Kozloff, Rae" <raek@cityofanacortes.org> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Harry Potter copies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:55:37 CDT We are a small town of 13,000, and I ordered 7 copies of HP 4. We have 25 holds already, and the books have not yet arrived from Ingram. We have 6 or 7 copies of each of the previous titles, and I will buy a few more paperbacks of #2 when it is published in August. It really is hard to know how many copies are warranted with a small budget available. Rae Kozloff Anacortes, WA ------------------------------ From: Cindi Carey <ccarey@timberland.lib.wa.us> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Harry Potter copies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:02:16 CDT I just had to jump in here. The Timberland Regional Library system has 27 libraries in 5 counties, so we cover a large population. As of July 8th at 9:30 am, we have 758 holds on 80 copies plus 24 holds on 18 copies of the talking book. I wonder how many of those holds will be cancelled because people have gone out and purchased the book instead of waiting so long to get their copy? Cindi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cindi Carey Youth Services Associate
Lacey Timberland Library Voice: 360-491-3860 500 College St. S.E. FAX: 360-459-6714 Lacey, WA 98503-1240 e-mail: ccarey@timberland.lib.wa.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Harry Potter placement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:09:11 CDT Hello to all - Since I haven't read the new HP (we don't even have it yet, after ordering it in Feb.), I'm not sure where to put Harry. HP1, 2 &3 are in J. Generally, we put a book in YA if the protagonaist is a teen or the subject/content (sometimes format/style) is targeted toward older readers. Since Harry is now officially a teenager and I understand the content is somewhat darker, is anyone moving HP to YA? Or has he been there all along? We moved the ALICE books by Naylor from J to YA as Alice aged. (And Alice did age and really is a young adult now.) But part of me says its nice to keep the series together, not that HP4 will hit the shelves for a long time! Thanks for your input - Jan Wall Youth Services Librarian Latah County Library District 110 South Jefferson Street Moscow ID 83843 fax: 208-882-5098 janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us ------------------------------ From: "S. Fichtelberg" <sfichtel@infolink.org> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Shelving Picture Books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:15:59 CDT We also shelve our picture books in strict alphabetical order by the author's last name. If there is more than one author with the same last name (i.e. Brown), then within the Brown's the books are arranged alphabetically by first name. We used to shelve by the first letter of the last name just in the summer because of the volume of shelving, but it made it so difficult to find the books, and was a massive task at the end of the summer to put everything back in order. Susan sfichtel@infolink.org Woodbridge Public Library Woodbridge, NJ ------------------------------ From: toni whiney <whitneto@oplin.lib.oh.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org, OPLINLIST@epicurus.oplin.lib.oh.us Subject: Thanks for Your Replies to Shelving MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AF934BD327C5A749CE52B54B" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:23:20 CDT
--------------AF934BD327C5A749CE52B54B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to everyone who responded to my questions regarding the shelving of picture books in your libraries. Many, many responses have been received in this short time frame. I will report back on the findings in the near future! Again, thanks to all! Toni Whitney Youth Services Librarian Ashland Public Library Ashland, Ohio ------------------------------ From: CV Childrens <cvjuve@oplin.lib.oh.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Library Renovation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:30:11 CDT Earlier this year my co-workers and I visited a library near Columbus that has exactly the kind of storytime area you describe. You might want to contact them directly for their comments. It was either Westerville or Worthington - we visited both that day. Our own ST area is in a corner of the kids' room and can be separated from the rest of the room by folding doors that pull out from the wall. It works pretty well; we also make frequent use of the library's program room, which connects to the kids' room by a connecting door. The ST area is pretty full if you get 30 kids in it. Joyce Fisher, PSA Washington-Centerville Pub Lib Centerville OH At 07:32 PM 7/7/2000 CDT, you wrote: >Hello Everyone, > >My library is about to undergo a gigantic renovation and I need some advice. >The architect suggested having an open story time room in the children's >area with some sort of amphitheatre style seating. I need to know some of >the pros and cons of having this style of seating. Also, should the step >(amphiteheatre) seating be built into the design of the new room or is it a >good idea to have foldable seating that can be stored. The story time room >will only be used by the children's department and we would like to have >some storage space and display as well. Thanks in advance. > >Chelsea Baker >Youth Services Librarian >cbaker@mailserv.gcpl.lib.oh.us > > > Washington-Centerville Public Library 111 W. Spring Valley Road Centerville, OH 45458 (937) 433-8091 cvjuve@oplin.lib.oh.us ------------------------------ From: Marie McColley <mccolley@jefferson.lib.co.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Harry Potter books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:37:40 CDT Very impressive Fairfax County! Jefferson County Public Library in the Denver, Colorado suburban area has ordered 110 copies for our 11 branches and there are 477 holds on it so far. Who knows when we will receive the copies. Marie McColley Patron Services Librarian Jefferson County Public Library - Wheat Ridge, Colorado Views expressed here are my own and do not represent the views of my employer.
-----Original Message----- From: Roben.Closs@co.fairfax.va.us [mailto:Roben.Closs@co.fairfax.va.us] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 9:24 AM To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Harry Potter books
Fairfax County Public Library (in Northern Virginia) has ordered 450 copies for our 20 branches. The last time I checked, there were 1100 holds. But it's been a few days so I am sure there are more now. I hope we get our copies soon! I know there will be a great demand for them. Roben in Lorton ------------------------------ From: "Kelley, Judy" <JKelley@city.newport-beach.ca.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Reference/Children's Librarian Position Available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:46:13 CDT I am posting this position for the Newport Beach Public Library. California. Librarian I - Reference/Children's Services Position open at the City of Newport Beach, CA, one of California's most scenic dynamic communities. The Newport Beach Public Library was recently named in American Libraries as among the best libraries in America. MLS degree from an ALA accredited college or university required. Library experience, creativity, and a commitment to children/youth services highly desirable. Excellent communication, organization, planning and programming skills a must. Multidimensional job involves planning and participating in a variety of functions including adult reference and children's services at the Central Library and a busy branch. Qualified individuals are encouraged to apply. Salary Range $2,972 to $4,183/month with excellent benefits. Application and job announcement are available in person at the Human Resources Office, 3300 Newport Blvd.., Newport Beach, CA 92658-8915 or by phone 949-644-3303 or by visiting the City's website at http://www.city.newport-beach.ca.us. Filing deadline 5:00pm, August 11, 2000. Resumes not accepted in lieu of City Application. Faxes not accepted. EOE
Judy Kelley Youth and Branch Services Manager Newport Beach Public LIbrary 1000 Avocado Avenue Newport Beach CA 92660 949.717.3807
------------------------------ From: JANE BAIRD <LIJHB@library.ci.anchorage.ak.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: RE: Shelving Picture Books Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:53:48 CDT Interesting that you should ask about shelving picture books. This has been an ongoing philosophical discussion at our library for the past year. In the past we filed picture books alphabetically by just the first letter of the alphabet aided by some color coding--red for a's and b's, white for c's, d's and e's and so on. Well, after much discussion back and forth between the youth services staff and circulation, it was decided that we would put them in strict alphabetical order by author on a trial basis for the summer. Several people came in one Sunday while we were closed and got the entire collection alphabetized. What an enormous job that was. The public was absolutely thrilled, the librarians love it and even the circulation staff (especially those who have to pull requests) like it. It has been so much easier to find books that we need. Now we are just waiting and holding our collective breaths to see if we will be able to continue the practice after the trial period is over. Jane Baird Z.J. Loussac Library Anchorage Alaska p.s. The branch libraries had alphabetized their collection years ago. The main library hadn't due to the size of the collection. ------------------------------ From: JANE BAIRD <LIJHB@library.ci.anchorage.ak.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Harry Potter Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 12:04:53 CDT We have 30 copies on order for a city of 250,000 with 84 reserves already placed. Jane Baird Z.J. Loussac Library Anchorage Alaska ------------------------------ From: Hedy_Harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Need more response to exempt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 12:12:14 CDT All of our full time librarians are exempt employees of the City. Hedy Luna Harrison City of Cerritos Public library ------------------------------ From: caes@pacificrim.net To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: RE: [Fwd: Christian Fiction or propaganda] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 12:19:47 CDT It's true, to read the Narnia books as an adult is to wince through many passages. On the other hand, in The Last Battle, C.S. Lewis says that even people who don't believe in Aslan are saved if they worship another god as though they were worshipping Aslan -- that is, by doing, and being, good. It's evil that's the problem, not any particular form of worship. At least, that's how I read it. Lewis's intolerance doesn't seem to be so much religious as unreflexive old-style British disdain for races and cultures not his own. That's bad, all right, but I don't know why we assume that kids who read such things become intolerant themselves. I devoured the Narnia series as a child and now, as an adult, shake my head at parts of it. Many of the kids who read the Left Behind series will do the same, eventually. The important thing is to have lots and lots of non-racist, and anti-racist and otherwise diverse materials on our shelves as well. It's easy to get Christian fiction because it's so heavily marketed. We need to be on the lookout always for alternative viewpoints, and display them and promote them so that they have the same level of visibility as the majority culture stuff. It's called "innoculation." Research shows it's very hard to brainwash people who have been exposed to balanced information. >Narnia is not simply a story. It is an allegorical tale. The characters do >represent something. > >> >> And just a humble question, do all of you folks railing against the >> "intolerance" of the LEFT BEHIND books have the Narnia books on your >> juvenile shelves? I think Lewis was pretty explicit about what happens to >> those who don't "love Aslan." > > > > Catherine Sarette caes@pacificrim.net ------------------------------ From: Paulalef@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Collection placement of advanced picture books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 12:27:20 CDT Glad you brought that up. The placement of older picture books is becoming more and more of a problem. Pink and Say, etc., are in our J Fiction section right now. Several years ago I attended a program where this issue was raised and many of our colleagues are beginning to establish separate sections. We're in the process of expanding a very overcrowded children's room and in the new space I expect to have a separate section for books like many of Eve Bunting's, for example. A related issue is the picture book biographies. What do you do with those? The ones that seem like nonfiction are with the biographies, but as others have observed, there's a fine line between fiction and nonfiction in many of them. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Currently, for example, Molly Banneky is in our picture book section but the Duke Ellington book is with the biographies. Paula Lefkowitz Head, Children's Department Parsippany (NJ) PL ------------------------------ From: Karen Brost <kmbrost@earthlink.net> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Research Paper-Prison Libraries, Access , etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 12:34:49 CDT I am a new grad student in library science taking 9 hours this summer. I am looking for information on prison libraries. My intention is to discuss the history of such an institution, the issue of prisoner access/availablity of materials and the storage and retrieval of such information. Does anyone have sites they know of that might provide some of the information that I am looking for? I'd appreciate any helpful ideas. Thanks, Karen Brost kmbrost@earthlink.net
------------------------------ From: DHALO426@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: RE:ready reference for telephone service MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 12:42:15 CDT For a small wk area which 10 print resources would you recommend, assuming most questions could be answered by Internet based resources. Thanks for any help or advice you can offer. DHALO426@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@hotmail.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Harry Potter placement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 16:31:25 CDT We've got ours in the YA section because we also felt it would be nice to keep them all together. Also in our library, we consider YA age 11 and up, and since Harry is 11 in the first book... Lisa Prolman Assistant Children's Librarian "All things considered, Greenfield Public Library insanity may be the only 402 Main Street reasonable alternative." Greenfield, MA 01301 (413)772-1590 lprolman@hotmail.com lisa.prolman@simmons.edu ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of PUBYAC Digest 190 ************************ |
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