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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:01:17 CDT

Subject: PUBYAC digest 194

PUBYAC Digest 194

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) RE: POKEMON CARD TRADING NIGHT AT THE LIBRARY -- I NEED YOUR ADVI

CE

by "Chapman, Jan" <jchapman@ascpl.lib.oh.us>

2) RE: over crowded programs

by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

3) Re: Harry Potter

by Susan Anderson-Newham <snewie@yahoo.com>

4) Re: Harry Potter

by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

5) Re: over crowded programs

by "Melanie C. Duncan" <duncanm@mail.bibb.public.lib.ga.us>

6) Re: Harry Potter

by ILefkowitz@aol.com

7) Re: [Fwd: Christian Fiction or propaganda]

by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>

8) Re: patrons and rest rooms, etc.

by Bonnie Warren <bonnielw@lincc.lib.or.us>

9) RE: over crowded programs

by "Keeney, Scott" <SKEENEY@ci.albany.or.us>

10) Harry Potter popularity

by Carrie Eldridge <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>

11) STUMPER: Ducks named Alice, Emma, and Uncle Wesley

by Lu Benke <lubenke@ns.ci.fort-collins.co.us>

12) Re: Christian Fiction or propaganda - related question

by "Melanie C. Duncan" <duncanm@mail.bibb.public.lib.ga.us>

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From: "Chapman, Jan" <jchapman@ascpl.lib.oh.us>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: POKEMON CARD TRADING NIGHT AT THE LIBRARY -- I NEED YOUR ADVI

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Hi Stephanie:

I hosted a Pokemon Card Swap recently. I had basic rules of trading that

were passed out to each participant. Basically they were as follows:

No cash transactions

Even swaps only

I also had a disclaimer that the library was not responsible for lost or

stolen cards. I had a local Pokemon "expert" come in to help moderate the

swap.

We had no problems or disputes--we were lucky! I think it helps to post the

rules ahead of time. Oh, and we had a Pokemon related door prize.

Good luck with your swap.

Jan Chapman

Norton Branch Library

jchapman@ascpl.lib.oh.us

 

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Behalf Of Langenkamp, Stephanie

Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 8:40 PM

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Subject: POKEMON CARD TRADING NIGHT AT THE LIBRARY -- I NEED YOUR ADVICE

 

On Wednesday night (7-12-2000), we'll be hosting an event where kids can

bring their Pokemon cards and trade them with other kids. Do any of you

have advice for me about how to run such an event? Thank you

Stephanie Langenkamp

San Marcos Public Library

512/393-8212

langenkamp_stephanie@ci.san-marcos.tx.us

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: over crowded programs

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We do issue tickets to our larger programs (e.g., anything with a performer

like a magic show or a puppet show), because we can't have them in our

library (our only remaining space for programs in this overcrowded library

will hold maybe 30 kids). We print up tickets with the place/time and "Cook

Memorial Public Library Presents" on them and distribute them at the

Children's desk. We require a Cook library card (one per family) to issue

tickets.

Programs are often held at the Civic Center across the street from the

library, and occasionally at another location. I don't know if this has

reduced circ since we've done it this way as long as I've been here -- we

have no other choice if we want to offer programs for more than 20-30 kids

(we generally limit story and craft programs to this size). Someday when we

have a bigger building, we'll have programs in the library, but until then

we are forced to do this.

During the school year, we distribute tickets beginning one week before the

program. During the summer, tickets are distributed beginning one hour

before the program. For the events during the school year, we usually end

up with 70-75% of those who picked up tickets actually attending the

program.

One problem we have occasionally run into is with PR. Sometimes when we

send a press release to the paper, the newspaper will end up printing a

notice (or will print a photo after the fact) that says "So-and-so troupe

has a puppet show at the Libertyville Civic Center" and completely neglects

to mention the library. We have tried to be firm in reminding the papers to

include the library name in their information about our programs.

Actually, given all the disadvantages of our situation, I think it still

works pretty well. Lots of people will come for tickets and stay to enjoy

the library for awhile (and check some books out), and when they come for

the program, many park at the library, attend the program across the street,

then visit the library afterward.

Andrea Johnson

ajohnson@cooklib.org

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From: Susan Anderson-Newham <snewie@yahoo.com>

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Subject: Re: Harry Potter

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:12:54 CDT

 

--- Deborah Landon <dlandon@npls.org> wrote:

As a matter-of-fact,

> I was

> thinking maybe I should start reading the series. I

> want to

> know how books with MANY pages can be so

> interesting/exciting

> to kids . . . what's the mystery?

After a 21/2 hour read aloud session with HP #4, my 9

year old daughter said, "Mom, when we read Harry

Potter, I am THERE. I am not in our living room, I am

right there at Hogwarts with Harry. How does she do

that???"

I think she does it with suspense, character, and

great heaping doses of humor. Ultimately, regardless

of their literary quality, Harry Potter books are FUN.

Great magical fun. I highly recommend that you find

out what the hype is all about!

Susan Anderson-Newham

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Susan Anderson-Newham

Federal Way Regional Library

King County, WA

 

 

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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

To: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>

Subject: Re: Harry Potter

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:14:03 CDT

Yes!!! The hype surrounding book number four has brought a lot of people

in who want to catch up with the series. I hope #3 will come out in

paperback soon.

Lisa Smith

lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us

On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, David Serchay wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed a rise in the holds for books 1-3?

>

> David

>

>

> David Serchay

> a013213t@bc.seflin.org

>

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From: "Melanie C. Duncan" <duncanm@mail.bibb.public.lib.ga.us>

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Subject: Re: over crowded programs

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:15:15 CDT

Hi Mary,

>We do not have a good space outside to have programs and we're in

>Georgia, so the heat is a big factor.

I can certainly agree with this!

>Do any other libraries out there have their summer reading programs in

>places other than the library? What happens to book circulation when

>you switch places? We are worried about not getting the kids to the

>books if we were to have the programs at a local school (our other

>choice of location).

I coordinated Summer Reading Club when I worked in the Fayette County

Library during the Solar Summer theme back in 1995? 1996? Anyway, our

library was only 4,800 square feet at the time, and the "meeting room"

(basically the newspaper reading room) would only hold about 30-35 people

according to the fire codes.

I ended up booking all of our programs in either the County Commissioners

meeting room over at the county annex building or in another meeting room

in that building. My program attendance ranged from about 65 up to 225.

Most of the programs were in the 150-200 range.

Book circulation was no problem. The parents and kids would either visit

the library before the program or right after. I would make a point of

inviting them back to the library in my introduction to the program and in

the conclusion.

The only program I held outside was when the "Bubble Lady" came and showed

the kids how to make their own soap bubble solution and create bubbles of

all sizes.

If I can be of further assistance, please let me know.

 

Sincerely,

Melanie C. Duncan, M.S.L.S.

Reference Librarian, Washington Memorial Library

Christian Fiction columnist, Library Journal

Editor/Publisher, The Bookdragon Review (ISSN 1527-0157)

http://www.bookdragonreview.com

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From: ILefkowitz@aol.com

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Subject: Re: Harry Potter

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All of our copies of the earlier books are out with reserves on them. I

imagine when book five comes out the same thing will happen again.

Ilene Lefkowitz

Youth Services Librarian

Mount Olive Public Library (NJ)

ILefkowitz@aol.com

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From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>

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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Christian Fiction or propaganda]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:17:41 CDT

 

 

On the other hand, playing devil's advocate, every time you use the taxpayer's

money to buy a book you are encouraging the author/publisher to keep more of the

same coming. If some misogynistic rap artist (using that word very loosely)

comes out with a book full of rantings against minorities, authority figures

etc. and glamorizing criminal activities it might well prove fairly popular

among the KORN/EMINEM crowd if we were to buy it, but I'd be awfully reluctant

to help people turn a profit off of exploiting that kind of mind set and

bringing out the worst in their readers. We might do well to consider the

possibility that Intellectual Freedom - the opportunity to put forth an IDEA -

is not the same as what might be called "visceral freedom" - the desire to go

whatever way your hormones lead. Although those seeking to promote the latter

often attempt to wrap themselves in the cloak of the former in order to appear

more respectable. The fact that we should be prepared to defend the

presentation of a very wide spectrum of ideas in our collections does not mean

that we need to accomodate the worst sorts of appeals to emotions/hormonal

impulses, no matter how hateful, harmful or crass. One hopes that well reasoned

selection policies would recognize this distinction. Speaking only for himself,

of course,(and admitting that he still likes to put on The Rolling Stones every

now and again)

Chuck Schacht

Romeo District Library

Romeo, MI.

Andrea Johnson wrote:

> The

> > moment we start rejecting books because we don't like their message,

> > because we are afraid that somebody might get their feelings hurt, instead

> > of choosing them on the basis of quality, popularity, or whatever we use

> > for a well thought-out selection policy, we might as well chuck the whole

> > principle of intellectual freedom out the window.

> >

> =====================================================

> Amen to that! (insert standing ovation)

>

> We must never forget the principles of intellectual freedom that we cite

> when defending the books we love. If we only apply it to books we like,

> it's a worthless idea, like passing a law against burning the American flag

> (in my opinion). The freedom we're talking about has to apply to all

> things, or it is worthless. If it is "freedom to agree with me," we are no

> more defensible in our ideological stance than those who disagree with us

> and want to censor our collections.

>

> Andrea Johnson

> Cook Memorial Public Library

> ajohnson@cooklib.org

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From: Bonnie Warren <bonnielw@lincc.lib.or.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: patrons and rest rooms, etc.

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:18:53 CDT

We keep our restrooms locked with the key for each (men's and women's) on a

ruler at the end of the circulation desk. Because the keys are in complete

view and are necessary to get into the restroom, this has eliminated

problems that have occurred in the library in the past I'm told. Patrons

don't complain either.

Bonnie Wright wrote:

> We have had trouble in the past with getting adult patrons to shut the

> door to the

> rest rooms-has anyone else had to deal with this situation? I can see a

> kid forgetting,

> but an adult?( I'm not talking about mentally or physically challenged

> adults, either.)

>

> Sometimes we've had a patron singing ditties, complete with swear words

> in

> the restroom(audible to other patrons) and we've had to speak to the

> patron.

>

> Once I had to knock on the door-a young couple was making love in our

> restroom.

> A 14 year old girl and a 17 year old boy came out together.

> I was told I handled the "aftermath" of the situation well-but has this

> sort of thing

> happened to anyone else?

>

> We've also(twice) had someone smear a restroom with" unmentionables." It

> took the

> director and I a good half hour to clean it up.

>

> I wonder if we are unique in having to deal with this sort of thing. It

> is hardly

> a "pressing" topic, but it seems to be happening a lot here recently.

>

> Bonnie Wright

> bwright@aldus.northnet.org

 

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From: "Keeney, Scott" <SKEENEY@ci.albany.or.us>

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We issue tickets for some programs, "overbooking" by roughly 20-30% to allow

for no shows.

We require signups, on clipboards on Children's Department desks, for some

programs, with the same "overbooking" built in.

We even required attendees at one particularly busy series of programs to

not only preregister, but also to be registered cardholders. (I'm astonished

at how few libraries "card" (not charge) for expensive, labor intensive,

value-added services they offer citizens for free, especially in areas, such

as my county, where half of all taxpayers have historically chosen not to

tax themselves for library service.)

But the huge majority of our programs, including three all ages/no

signups/everyone welcome morning storytimes, three times weekly, 50 weeks a

year, average attendance 60, are open to and for all. Many are packed to the

point where safety and quality suffer, a bit. If safety and quality suffered

a lot, I'd immediately institute more restrictive signup/crowd limiting

policies.

Though I sure wish I could close the doors every now and then when the

storytime horde peaks at over 100!

Scott Keeney

Children's Librarian work 541-917-7591

Albany Public Library fax 541-917-7586

1390 Waverly Dr SE

Albany OR 97321 skeeney@ci.albany.or.us

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Mary Matuszewski [mailto:marym@srls.public.lib.ga.us]

Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 1:20 PM

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Subject: over crowded programs

 

Hello,

We have a "good" problem. Our attendance to all our Summer Reading

Programs is booming, so much so that we are going to need to find a new

place to have our programs, or issue tickets or...(any other ideas?).

We do not have a good space outside to have programs and we're in

Georgia, so the heat is a big factor.

Do any other libraries out there have their summer reading programs in

places other than the library? What happens to book circulation when

you switch places? We are worried about not getting the kids to the

books if we were to have the programs at a local school (our other

choice of location).

OR... Does anyone issue free tickets for programs? We could then

control how many come into our too small meeting room. How do you go

about issuing the tickets? Did you see changes in your SRC

participation with limiting the program attendees?

Thanks so much for the information. Please respond to

marym@srls.public.lib.ga.us, and I will post responses if others are

interested.

Mary M

Statesboro Regional Library

Statesboro, GA

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From: Carrie Eldridge <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Harry Potter popularity

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:21:52 CDT

 

Thank you Connie Vandervort for even-handed discussion of the Harry

phenomenen. No one can know at this point if they will be on the shelves

fifty years from now. Let's just enjoy kids reading some very long books

with lots of detail. I heard an newsman on ABC sum it up this way: It's

hard to be cynical about children reading (while the camera showed kids at

bookstores reading the new Harry Potter.) It was wonderful. Let's just be

happy about it. And if they read Harry Potter -- they will read......

(you fill in the blank).

Hooray! for J.K. Rowling!

 

From: "Connie Vandervort" <cvandervort@mail.hillsml.lib.nh.us>

To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org

Subject: Harry Potter

Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:12:28 CDT

Dear PUBYACers,

I have been very interested in the discussion that has been going on

about Harry. I admit that I have read aand enjoyed all of them. However,

I have not heard anyone mention the one thing I find, as a Children's

librarian, most important about them. We have had a number of parents

who have come in to get them and admitted that for the first time, in a

long time, they have something they can discuss pleasantly with their

teenagers. They admit to enjoying reading them, but most importantly,

to enjoying sharing something with their children again. Other parents

who were desperate to move their children beyond Goosebumps are amazed

to find their kids reading Harry. Teachers who complained constantly

about not being able to find something that they could read and hold

their whole classes attention with are thrilled to have Harry.

Only the test of time will determine whether this series becomes

classic literature. Until then, let me say, that I am glad to have Harry

Potter on my shelves. These books have rekindled a love of reading that

I was beginning to fear might be burning low. So whether Rowling someday

ranks in the pantheon of great children's authors or not, she certainly

has done something wonderful for at least this librarian and the

families my library serves. Thank you, J.K.

Connie Vandervort

Children's Librarian

Hills Memorial Library

Hudson, NH

Hudson, NH

Carrie Eldridge

San Juan Island Library District

Friday Harbor, WA 98250

360-378-2798

360-378-2706 (fax)

celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us

 

 

"I eat words wherever

I find them but am no wiser.

Keep your books under lock and key

or they'll be devoured by me!"

what am I?

-from "Riddle Road: puzzles in poems and

pictures" illustrated by Erik Blegvad

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From: Lu Benke <lubenke@ns.ci.fort-collins.co.us>

To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: STUMPER: Ducks named Alice, Emma, and Uncle Wesley

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:23:07 CDT

 

Here's hoping you can help. A customer remembers reading a chapter book at

about the age of ten in about 1965. The book included ducks named Alice,

Emma, and Uncle Wesley and perhaps other barnyard animals. The animals do

talk, but otherwise there was not magic in the book. We have checked what

we could through our database, Bibliofind, the 1961 edition of Children's

Catalog and the database of a nearby large public library and nothing

stands out as likely (Oh, how did we ever do without searchable

summaries!) It is not Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle's Farm. Does this ring a bell

with anyone?

Thanks so very much in advance for your help!

Lu Benke

Children's Services

Fort Collins Public Library

201 Peterson Street phone: 970-221-6686

Fort Collins, CO 80524 fax: 970-221-6398

lubenke@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us

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From: "Melanie C. Duncan" <duncanm@mail.bibb.public.lib.ga.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Christian Fiction or propaganda - related question

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:24:29 CDT

I read and reviewed the book Harm None by M.R. Sellars, a mystery with a

Wicca protagonist. It also tried to straighten out misconceptions regarding

Wicca by weaving the information into discussions about the case. I enjoyed

the book because of the excellent characterization and mystery, not

necessarily because I agree with the viewpoint espoused.

There are fantastic books waiting to be discovered if you're willing to

leave the safety of the familiar and explore the unknown.

 

Sincerely,

Melanie C. Duncan, M.S.L.S.

Reference Librarian, Washington Memorial Library

Christian Fiction columnist, Library Journal

Editor/Publisher, The Bookdragon Review (ISSN 1527-0157)

http://www.bookdragonreview.com

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