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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults
& Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 266
PUBYAC Digest 266
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Newbery and Caldecott posters
by Sandy Grambsch <sgrambsc@mail.owls.lib.wi.us>
2) RE: froggy's halloween
by David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
3) Re: Froggy's Halloween
by "linda allen" <lindaallen@hotmail.com>
4) RE: froggy's halloween
by jbaurich <jbaurich@kenton.lib.ky.us>
5) SATA
by Ann-Marie Biden <ambiden@nancy.ci.san-marino.ca.us>
6) Re: Internet use in Children's Departments
by Lisa Hughes <lhughes@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us>
7) Re: "professional dress"
by Carol Leeson <cleeson@nslsilus.org>
8) Re: professional dress for librarians
by Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
9) Overnight library programs
by Bill and Kristin Nichols <kerker@gate.net>
10) Re: froggy's halloween
by Dana Duffy <dduffy@PLCH.LIB.OH.US>
11) professional dress--Wonderbras?
by "Elizabeth C. Riak" <marp3@mc.net>
12) Children's Author Visit!
by Erin Helmrich <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
13) Stumper: Judith Bauer Stamper
by "Mary R. Voors" <Mvoors@acpl.lib.in.us>
14) re: stumper-- 1950s poetry
by "Sara Doyle" <Sara.Doyle@spl.org>
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From: Sandy Grambsch <sgrambsc@mail.owls.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Newbery and Caldecott posters
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:34:52 CDT
You can get Newbery and caldecott posters free from Follett Pub.-- Just
give them a call.
Sandy
Julie Darnall wrote:
>
> I've always seen them in the ala graphics catalog. Go to
> http://www.ala.org
> to get details and phone numbers.
> Julie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: smellott@co.wake.nc.us
[SMTP:smellott@co.wake.nc.us]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 1:35 AM
> > To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> > Subject: Newbery and Caldecott posters
> >
> > Does anyone know where these can be purchased? I just had a teacher
> ask
> > me?
> > Thank-you,
> > Sue Mellott
> > smellott@co.wake.nc.us
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From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
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Subject: RE: froggy's halloween
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:57:02 CDT
On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Amy Stultz wrote:
> Chuck,
>
> We used to chant that (underwear and all) during trick or treating when I
> was a kid (I'm 27). I remember laughing when Bart Simpson said it
because
> it reminded me of my childhood. We also had the rhyme:
>
> Happy Birthday to you, you live in a zoo, you look like a monkey and you
> smell like one too.
>
> There was also one involving Batman but I don't remember the words. I
> understand where you are coming from, but I wouldn't get overly worried
> about the rhyme. It isn't original to the book so many kids have
probably
> already heard it (if not said it).
>
You mean "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells, Robin laid an Egg, Batmobile lost
a wheel and the Joker got away-hey."? :)
Dave
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From: "linda allen" <lindaallen@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Froggy's Halloween
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:12:59 CDT
I have been mulling over what I think about this as I read all the comments,
which I appreciated. Speaking from the viewpoint of a past elementary school
librarian for 8 years, where I saw so many incidents of kids being cruel to
one another this is my opinion: I think the underwear rhyme is funny, kids
do love that humor, but the de-pantsing part is not funny. And there are
bullies on the playground that victimize kids they see as weak or different.
So, if I read it to kids I would talk about the difference between saying a
funny rhyme and really being cruel to another person.
Linda Allen
Sno-Isle Library System
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From: jbaurich <jbaurich@kenton.lib.ky.us>
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Subject: RE: froggy's halloween
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:24:21 CDT
This is similar to the underwear rhyme of my childhood,
"I see London, I see France,
I see Mary's underpants.
Not too big, not too small,
Just the size of city hall."
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Jill Dempsey Baurichter
Children's Librarian
Kenton County Public Library
3130 Dixie Highway
Erlanger, KY 41018
(859) 341-5115
jbaurich@kenton.lib.ky.us
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From: Ann-Marie Biden <ambiden@nancy.ci.san-marino.ca.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: SATA
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:26:31 CDT
We recently confronted these same issues regarding SATA, i.e. rapidly
filling up reference shelf space, not much use etc. and were considering
canceling the subscription (also hoping it was online, but found out it was
not) We compared the articles in Comtemporary Authors Online and
found
that although it contains many articles about children's authors, they
were, for the most part, not nearly as in-depth as SATA nor did they
contain the photographs which SATA often does. My solution was to move the
first 20 volumes (which are asked for the least )to a storage area. On the
edge of the shelf where the remaining volumes are, we've posted a BRIGHTLY
colored notice advising patrons and staff as to where they are and to
please ask the librarians to get them if needed. This has freed up a nice
amount of space and we all know where 1-20 are if asked for. Not a perfect
solution, but it works. Several weeks later the middle schoolers were
given a reading/author assignment to read a book then do some research on
the author. Needless to say, SATA was in big demand once again. We
will
keep it, but I'm also glad to hear they're cutting back a bit! They really
do eat up that budget at over $100 per copy!
Ann-Marie
Ann-Marie Biden, Youth Services Librarian
San Marino Public Library
1890 Huntington Dr.
San Marino, CA 91108
tel (626) 300-0776 fax (626)284-0766
ambiden@ci.san-marino.ca.us
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From: Lisa Hughes <lhughes@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Internet use in Children's Departments
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:28:16 CDT
We have two internet terminals in children's. One is exclusively for
children; on the other, children have priority. People must sign up at
the J desk to use either one. When they sign up, they receive a tag
showing their stop time (45 minutes from when they sign up) which is
placed above the terminal. Both terminals are in fairly obvious spots, so
we tend to notice if someone is using it without signing up, and we will
go up to the person and explain the system. (We also have signs on both
terminals explaining the system, but they often are not read.) The two J
terminals are both filtered; on the eight internet terminals in adult,
patrons have a choice of filtered or unfiltered. Children are defined as
eighth grade or younger, so when someone who looks as if they might be
older than that asks to sign up, we can ask what grade they're in. The
system seems to work fairly well. Hope this helps.
Lisa Mead Hughes, Children's Services
Campbell Public Library
77 Harrison Avenue, Campbell CA 95008-1499
voice: (866-1991) fax: (408) 866-1433
lhughes@scinet.co.santa-clara.ca.us
*** All standard disclaimers apply ***
On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Children's Librarian wrote:
> Dear Pubyacers,
>
> I have been asked by administration to find out if other public =
> libraries restrict access of their internet terminals in the children's =
> area to just children or if adults are also allowed to use them.
Right =
> now we do not restrict access to just children, but recently we've had =
> some concerns and are now thinking of restricting our access to just =
> children. If you do, how is it set up and how do you enforce it?
Thank =
> you.
>
> Darlene Kornya
> Children's Co-ordinator
>
>
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From: Carol Leeson <cleeson@nslsilus.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: "professional dress"
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:29:58 CDT
I am reading my e-mail while working the desk on a Saturday afternoon.
Today I am wearing dress slacks, made of material with a little give, a
cotton shirt and I started with a sweatshirt that looked dressier with the
collar of my shirt pulled over the neckline. I have on leather, flat
shoes with rubber soles. The sweatshirt came off after lunch when the
temperature in our room rose to 85 degrees. In the course of the day I
have crawled under dusty tables to re-boot computers and crawled along the
floor in the picture book area scanning the bottom shelves for the title I
was searching for and squatted in front of a stroller conversing with one
of my regulars at "From Bibs to Books." When the face of the patron
looking for the picture book lit up and she exclaimed "That's the one, now
my son will think I am a GREAT mother!" I don't think she was concerned
that I was not in a suit skirt and heels. However I don't think that my
friend from story time was at all put off by the fact that I was not in
jeans. What I am trying to say is that it is not the clothes that make us
professional or approachable, it is the way we conduct ourselves in the
course of doing business. I also have had the experience, which I am sure
others have had, of being at my home library (or as my son says "his
library") or at the supermarket or the amusement park dressed in my
non-work clothes and had people ask me for directions or if the store
carries a certain product. Sometimes it would be easier if clothes could
make more of a distinction, but then I just smile and help them if I am
certain I can or direct them to the appropriate person if I can't.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++
Carol Leeson
Head of Youth Services
Mount Prospect Public Library
10 S. Emerson
Mt. Prospect, Il 60056
(847)253-5675
cleeson@mppl.org
The opinions expressed here are my own and do not reflect those of the
Library.
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From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:31:40 CDT
Ohio has an SAS outlet in the outlet mall in Jeffersonville and you can
usually find the full range of styles and sizes in the finer independent
shoe stores--like the ones my podiatrist recommends. The shoes are
wonderful--just dressy enough to get buy but approved by many foot
doctors--and they do allow for orthotics. Call around to the
independents. They might even allow discounts if you buy more than one.
Ask. - jeri
On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, M. Mills wrote:
> SAS Shoemakers (prof. dress for libns.) has a Corporate Office in San
> Antonio,
> Texas: 1717 Sas Dr San Antonio, TX 78224-1042
Phone 210-924-6561
(no
> 800
> number I could find).
>
> Its factory is at 101 New Laredo Hwy. San Antonio, TX
78211-1903 Phone
> 210-924-6562. Different sales stores are scattered throughout Texas.
I
do
> not
> know if other states have these stores. Hopefully, SAS has a catalog
from
> which
> you can place shoe orders.
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@gcfn.org
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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From: Bill and Kristin Nichols <kerker@gate.net>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Overnight library programs
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:33:19 CDT
Hi. Please excuse the crossposting, our young adult programming
librarian is in a bit of a crunch, and I did not receive much feedback
from my initial posting.
I know that I saw a thread somewhere regarding permission slips for
library overnight programs earlier
this summer, but of course didn't follow it carefully. Our library is
doing a overnight
Teen Readathon to kick off Teen Read Week on the 13th , and she needs to
get something
from the parents in writing before this takes place. If you have such a
form at your library,
could you forward a copy to me?
Thanks in advance!
Kristin Nichols
Indian River County Main Library
1600 21st Street
Vero Beach, FL 32960
knichols@indian-river.lib.fl.us
fax # 561-770-5066
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From: Dana Duffy <dduffy@PLCH.LIB.OH.US>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: froggy's halloween
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:35:22 CDT
In regards to the Halloween chant:
Try reading Greasy Grimy Gopher Guts: The Subversive Folklore of Childhood
by
Josepha Sherman. You'll find all kinds of nasty rhymes that you
enjoyed as
a
kid, but have forgotten.
Dana Duffy
Program Coordinator
Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County
Julie Darnall wrote:
> Adults: take 2 deep breaths and remember your childhood. (Those
who have
> not one good memory of childhood for whatever reason are excluded)
Remember
> what it was like to laugh at the ridiculous. Then you will see why we
have
> to allow children to enjoy underwear jokes. If the pc police take
underwear
> jokes away from kids, the ball will keep rolling and kids will have
nothing
> to laugh at. If adults came to your door and chanted that rhyme,
they'd
be
> taken away for other reasons as well.
>
> Get over it! Let kids have their fun! If you don't understand
kid's
humor,
> you might want to rethink being in children's work.
>
> Julie Darnall
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From: "Elizabeth C. Riak" <marp3@mc.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: professional dress--Wonderbras?
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:37:18 CDT
Good morning all!
Just to add a little humor to this thread, which I have been following with
great interest...On the issue of "approachability," I think I may have
covered all the bases for the last two weekends. I am the director of my
small town library, and used to be the children's/reference/everything
librarian. So my attire has had to change a bit, just because of the
difference of position. We are trying hard to overcome the previous
administration's rather unwelcoming attitude, (especially towards children,
but not excluding adults either), so I have been out in the community a lot
promoting our library's good customer service and "approachability."
To
that end, last weekend I portrayed Marilyn Monroe, complete with lots of
cleavage (hence the Wonderbra) and sang at our Chamber of Commerce's Annual
Dinner. That got the library more publicity that all the meetings I have
been attending put together! And this weekend, the whole staff dressed up
as book characters, and participated in our town's Settler's Day Parade for
the first time, and I dressed as Peter Pan. (Someone from the Chamber saw me
in the parade route while we were handing out bookmarks, laughed, and asked
if I _ever_ wore normal clothes!) I think if I wore either costume to work,
it sure might bring up those circulation numbers! :)
Elizabeth Riak
Marengo Public Library
marp3@mc.net
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From: Erin Helmrich <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
To: everyone@tln.lib.mi.us, Michlib
<michlib-l@mlc.lib.mi.us>,
pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Children's Author Visit!
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:39:15 CDT
*****
If you're a fan of the books The Girl with the Silver Eyes, The
Kidnappers, Megan's Island or Don't Hurt Laurie - then you're a fan of the
award-winning author, Willo Davis Roberts!
Willo Davis Roberts will be visiting Michigan in November! The Royal Oak
Public Library is pleased to announce her visit on Tuesday, November 14 @
7:00 p.m. This program is sponsored by the Friends of the Library and
geared toward students in grades 4-12 and any/all interested adults!
Refreshments will be served and books will be for sale courtesy of the
Bookbeat bookstore in Oak Park. Ms. Roberts will also be signing books.
Registration is limited and begins on Monday, October 30. For more
information or to register please call 248.246.3725.
***********************************************
Erin V. Helmrich, M.L.S.
Youth Services/Young Adult Librarian
Royal Oak Public Library
***********************************************
222 E. 11 Mile Rd.
Royal Oak MI 48067
P - 248.541.1470
F - 248.545.6220
helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us
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From: "Mary R. Voors" <Mvoors@acpl.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Judith Bauer Stamper
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:41:26 CDT
For a child's report, we are searching for any
biographical information about the author, Judith Bauer Stamper. She
has quite a few easy readers and holiday books, but the titles in our
collection do not include any biographical information. We have also
checked Something About the Author, the Scholastic site, GaleNet, and
have used various search engines. We've found nothing! If anyone has
information about this author, or suggestions of a resource we could
try, we'd be very appreciative.
Please reply off-list to mvoors@acpl.lib.in.us
TIA
Mary R. Voors
"No one has yet fully
Children's Services Manager
realized the wealth of
Allen County Public Library
sympathy, kindness and
900 Webster PO Box 2270
generosity hidden in the
Fort Wayne, IN USA 46801-2270
soul of a child. The
(219) 421-1221
effort of every true
FAX: (219) 422-9688
education should be to
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unlock that treasure."
Emma Goldman, 1931
Visit the Children's
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Visit the 2000 Notable Children's Websites at
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From: "Sara Doyle" <Sara.Doyle@spl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: re: stumper-- 1950s poetry
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:43:12 CDT
A woman remembers a book from her childhood (don't they all start this way!)
from around the 1950s. It was a poetry book with these poems in it:
Old Father Gander
Sweet Little Alice
Heidi Untidy
Skinny McNinny
Mister Bell
Mrs. McBeam
... she thinks these are the poem titles, but they could be first lines
or
something.
We have checked the Index to Children's Poetry and done some searching on
the Internet as well. Any helpful hints would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks-
Sara Doyle
juv@spl.org
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