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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 10:48 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 267


    PUBYAC Digest 267

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Work dressing
by Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
  2) Re: froggy's halloween
by Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
  3) Froggy etc.
by "Moffitt, Gina" <GMoffitt@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
  4) Make and Take table
by "talcock" <talcock@co.north-slope.ak.us>
  5) Re: professional dress for librarians
by "Karen Holz" <easternlibrary@smithville.net>
  6) Re: professional dress for librarians
by Sarah Kendall <rocsk@kentlibrary.lib.mi.us>
  7) Re: professional dress for librarians
by Karen Stanley <kstanley@rosenberg-library.org>
  8) RE: froggy's halloween
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
  9) RE: Froggy's Halloween
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
 10) RE: Professional Dress
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
 11) Froggy's Halloween
by "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>
 12) National Library Week
by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
 13) Summer Reading
by Jmclacko@aol.com
 14) Reading incentives
by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
 15) Re: professional dress for librarians
by Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
 16) Thanks
by Claire Isaac <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
 17) Re: Internet use in Children's Departments
by "Rebecca Domonkos" <rebeccadomonkos@hotmail.com>
 18) Youth Advisory Boards
by "Amy C. Douglas" <amyd@cddn.com>
 19) Harry Potter Readers Theater
by "Gail Roberts" <groberts@sailsinc.org>
 20) Re: froggy's halloween
by Teresa Lambert <lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us>
 21) Re: Internet use in Children's Departments
by Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
 22) Planned Parenthood program
by Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
 23) Quidditch ideas needed!
by mccutcho@forsyth.lib.nc.us
 24) Re:  Professional Dress- Wonderbra
by "Carolyn Berg" <cberg@stny.rr.com>
 25) Grinch Party
by bkworm@mindspring.com
 26) RE: Froggy's Halloween
by WHALEYL@santacruzpl.org
 27) Summary: Books for Babies
by "Kathy Bullene" <kbullene@timberland.lib.wa.us>
 28) teens reading to younger kids
by Kaia B Henrickson <kaiab@juno.com>
 29) Policies
by ScottTownshipLibrary@att.net
 30) using LOC & freemarc databases w/Winnebago
by Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>

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From: Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Work dressing
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:07:40 CDT

We have tee shirts with our library name and logo for days when we are
allowed to dress down. That way, people can easily identify us as library
staff even on more casual days.  We can purchase them, plus we give these
shirts as one of the rewards for our STAR employee recognition program. My
YAAC group also has special shirts with a design by one of the kids. I
always wear my YAAC shirt to work on Saturdays when we have our meetings.
My last bit on this subject--a lot of how people dress has to do with where
you live. Here in Arizona, no hose in summer and sleeveless are completely
okay. When it is 110 out, no one cares. In other places, I know this would
not be acceptable. Oh, and one last thing--I found a great pair of Easy
Spirits at Ross Dress for Less for $19.99 the other day!

Diane Tuccillo
Senior Librarian/YA Coordinator
Mesa Public Library, AZ

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From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: froggy's halloween
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:23:41 CDT

Julie - I don't think the issue is whether I understand children's humour  -
I've been laughing my way through storytimes for a long time, now.  The
question
is rather do we want to encourage humour that has the potential to be quite
cruel?  You want rediculous - I'm your man.  But I prefer the kind of
rediculous
that isn't looking for a victem.  I shall now strive mightily to withdraw
from
this particular fray...

Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.

Julie Darnall wrote:

> Adults:  take 2 deep breaths and remember your childhood.  (Those who have
> not one good memory of childhood for whatever reason are excluded)
Remember
> what it was like to laugh at the ridiculous.  Then you will see why we
have
> to allow children to enjoy underwear jokes.  If the pc police take
underwear
> jokes away from kids, the ball will keep rolling and kids will have
nothing
> to laugh at.  If adults came to your door and chanted that rhyme, they'd
be
> taken away for other reasons as well.
>
> Get over it!  Let kids have their fun!  If you don't understand kid's
humor,
> you might want to rethink being in children's work.
>
> Julie Darnall

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From: "Moffitt, Gina" <GMoffitt@city.newport-beach.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Froggy etc.
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This is for Amy Stultz of Leesburg P.L..  We are of the same generation,and
I just couldn't help myself...
I believe the Batman rhyme goes something like this:

Jingle Bells,
Batman Smells,
Robin laid an egg.
The Batmobile
Lost its wheel,
And the Joker got away!


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From: "talcock" <talcock@co.north-slope.ak.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Make and Take table
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:38:58 CDT

Our library is putting together our first make & take table
for simple crafts. I need all of the ideas i can get!
Halloween ideas would be particularly helpful right now.
Please send ideas to me off list.

____________________
Tara Alcock, Public Services Librarian
Tuzzy Consortium Library
P.O. Box 749
Barrow Ak 99723
Phone no. (907)852-1720
1-800-478-6916
work:  talcock@co.north-slope.ak.us

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From: "Karen Holz" <easternlibrary@smithville.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:47:21 CDT

I am the main person at a very small branch library in Indiana.  I usually
wear nice slack and a top.  Some of my tops are theme oriented (library and
holiday types).  Every so often, if I am doing something outside or were I
know that I will become messy I wear jeans no one seems to mind and  I am
not ruining my good clothes.  I feel better about myself and my profession
when I dress nicely and I think that this helps with
the public in that they have more confidence in the library and its staff.
I don't think that I need to wear a suit
or a dress to look professional but I should look neat.  I prefer slacks as
they allow me to move around more comfortably and I can get down on the
floor with the kids when I want without worrying about how I am sitting.
As for shoes, my heel is very narrow so I like shoes that tie, so they will
stay on.  I buy either Bass or Ecco, which cost more but last forever.  I
hate buying shoes.

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From: Sarah Kendall <rocsk@kentlibrary.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:52:25 CDT

Normally I dress "up" for work, which means I wear skirts, twinsets and
low-heeled dress shoes.  Because I love wearing vintage clothing,
sometimes I look very dressy. This works for me
because it suits my personality, and I haven't had a problem getting on
the floor and doing storytimes because I never wear anything too
constricting.  There are times when I dress in costume or wear pajamas
(for pajama storytime) but I haven't noticed anyone treating me less
professionally. I also haven't noticed any difference either in my
coworkers' attitude towards me or the reactions of the public on days when
I wear khakis instead of my usual dress or skirt.  Personally I like the
freedom to dress "up" or "down" whenever I feel like it.  I believe you
look (and feel) your most comfortable if you dress according to your own
taste and personality.  Just my two cents.  :)

Sarah Kendall, youth librarian
Kent District Library, Krause Memorial Branch
Grand Rapids MI  USA
skendall@kdl.org

Opinions expressed are personal and may not reflect official library
policy or statements.

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From: Karen Stanley <kstanley@rosenberg-library.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:55:09 CDT

Gosh, thought I would be able to stay out of the "dress for success"
discussion, but just can't resist.  I agree with everybody and my
wardrobe probably reflects that.  I have on jeans today, but it could
just have easily been a suit.  I try to dress for what's going on any
particular day.  When there's a conflict - storytime in the morning and
meeting in the afternoon I dress for what's more important.  Usually
I'll error on the side of overdressing, but not always.  Being able to
work successfully with a group of kids is always a priority.

Dressing up does help put me in the right frame of mind if I'm
presenting a workshop or speaking at a Rotary Club Meeting.  However, I
can truthfully say, that I've noticed little difference when I'm on the
reference desk.  As long as I'm approachable and willing and eager to
help all patrons there seems to be little regard to my clothing choices.

I remember liking Southwest Airlines from day one.  Why?  Because their
flight attendants weren't in some ridiculously short skirt with heels
while trying to put some huge carry-on in the overhead compartment or
pushing a bulky cart down an aisle.  In other words, they were dressed
appropriately for the job.

And, you know what I think?  Most people want other people to look
"attractive."  I've seen some in the "suit uniform" that looked frumpy
and out-dated.  I've seen others in jeans and sweaters that looked like
a million bucks.

Karen Stanley
Head of Children's Services
Rosenberg Library
Galveston, TX

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: froggy's halloween
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:57:28 CDT



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amy Stultz [SMTP:AStultz@ci.leesburg.fl.us]
>
> We used to chant that (underwear and all) during trick or treating when I
> was a kid (I'm 27).  I remember laughing when Bart Simpson said it because
> it reminded me of my childhood.  We also had the rhyme:
>
> Happy Birthday to you, you live in a zoo, you look like a monkey and you
> smell like one too.
>
> There was also one involving Batman but I don't remember the words.  I
> understand where you are coming from, but I wouldn't get overly worried
> about the rhyme.  It isn't original to the book so many kids have probably
> already heard it (if not said it).
>
=================================
Was it "Jingle Bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg..."?  :)  My
childhood is all coming back to me now.

I'm definitely in the camp of "No big deal" here.  I don't think
that familiar Halloween chant (yes, I knew it as a child, too) really
encourages kids to "de-pants" others.  I think we're making that correlation
vs. causation mistake again.  Does reading Junie B. Jones give kids bad
grammar?  Does hearing the story of Alice in Wonderland encourage them to
crawl down rabbit holes?  Does putting WWF stars on ALA posters cause kids
to look up to wrestlers?  Does Captain Underpants give them a fascination
with toilet humor?  Of course not.  Kids have enjoyed toilet humor since the
invention of the toilet, probably.  The book in question is a reflection of
child culture, not a cause of it.  There's a big (and important) difference
there.  Let's not forget what it's like to be a kid -- that's what makes us
good at our jobs.

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Froggy's Halloween
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:00:01 CDT


Chuck,

I know exactly what you're getting at, and if I felt that children were
being taught to de-pants other children through this book, I'd agree with
you in a snap.  But they're not -- nobody gets de-pantsed, do they?  Froggy
makes a reference to pulling down underwear, which is funny.  Actually
pulling down the underwear would not be.  Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I
see a difference.

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Schacht [SMTP:schachtc@libcoop.net]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 10:45 AM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Re: Froggy's Halloween
>
> One could make a case for the position that when children are taught that
> it's funny to humiliate/de-pants other children it's a serious concern.  I
> suspect that anyone who has  ever had their underwear pulled down in
> public would be rather seriously traumatized.  Of course this would not be
> the INTENT of Froggy's author, but I'm just not happy with the message,
> any more than I'd be happy with a book that portrayed other sorts of
> cruelty as laughing matters.  Lord knows I'm not saying that I think we
> ought to go through our whole collections and toss everything that's not
> wholly enlightened, but IMHO some things like Froggy may push the envelope
> a little too far.
>

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Professional Dress
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:05:07 CDT



> -----Original Message-----
> From: F. Brautigam [SMTP:fbrautig@nslsilus.org]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 11:06 AM
> To: pubyac
> Subject: Professional Dress
>
> Not to add fuel to the fire, but has anyone else had varying experiences
> in different parts of the country?
>
==============================
          I don't know if it varies from region to region (I've
always lived in the Midwest), but I have seen a difference from library to
library or town to town.  I think it definitely makes a difference what the
so-called "corporate culture" is at your library or in your community.  If
everyone's wearing a suit but you, you'll look out of place.  When I was in
graduate school at the U of Illinois, I worked at the Urbana Free Library.
Now, the following is rampant generalization, but I think it holds true
pretty well.  I believe Urbana is a kind of "Bohemian" community; they like
their old-fashioned library and their small, locally owned businesses and
their quiet town.  Champaign, on the other hand (they are "twin cities"), is
a more "modern" community in terms of lifestyle and mindset.  More
businesses are large chains, there are more new houses and condos, and the
nightlife (and day-life, for that matter) is busier.  Champaign has a
library with a modern, steel-and-concrete building, very modern looking, and
the staff tend to wear business suits.  Urbana has an old-fashioned library
with columns in front (a couple of lions would not look out of place), and
the staff tend to dress more casually; in jumpers, corduroy pants, and the
like.  A librarian who had worked at both libraries once told me, "At
Urbana, we wear Birkenstocks; at Champaign, they wear heels."
         So to make a long story even longer, I think it depends on
what others are wearing around you, and what kind of image the library has
set for itself, to determine what constitutes appropriate dress.  And
frankly, I think that the person behind the desk being friendly,
approachable, and alert makes more of an impression than what one is
wearing.

Andrea Johnson
ajohnson@cooklib.org

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From: "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Froggy's Halloween
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:07:08 CDT

Chuck and all,

I agree that there are some appalling implications with the little
ditty.

As a very shy and tender-hearted child, I would not have repeated it
because I would already be crying because some kids (usually my
step-cousins) had said it and grabbed at me then laughed and said "It's
a joke. It's a joke! Can't you tell it's funny?" Yeah, it was funny, but
not if it was happening to *me*!

My very Southern mother-in-law would say, "It's trashy, just trashy."
She was very vigilante in rearing her children and would not allow any
hint of improper behavior or speaking in her children.and an inadvertent
body noise was a shameful thing (not that Froggy is concerned with
*that*). She would never have allowed her children to utter such a
disrespectful ditty to an adult, much less a child, in her hearing.
Which is not to say it didn't happen. Needless to say, all that
repression has led to a stunted sense of humor in some otherwise
sensible adults. BUT they do know appropriate behavior and have lovely
manners. While, privately, the family gets a big guffaw out of the straw
trick, publicly, they would not dream of doing or saying anything that
would hurt or embarrass themselves or others.

EXCEPT, there was a time when the Atlanta Braves were in one of their
pennant attempts and there was some talk about toning down the tomahawk
chop because it was not PC. Well, the brother-in-law asked me about it
and I went into my explanation about stereotypes and images and current
perception, etc. and their whole family listened attentively then said,
"We don't care. It's fun and we're gonna do it."

?!?!

So.what I'm going around the world to say is that this is another
situation where "the library provides the experience and it's up to the
patrons to choose the experience or not, as they see fit." (BTW, Cathy
Norman, I do love your quote.)  BUT as responsible professionals (no
matter the dress) we should be aware of and sensitive to broader issues.

Thank you Chuck for bring Froggy's ditty to my attention.

grace
(who just got back from the National Storytelling Festival in
Jonesborough, TN, and therefore is seeing a story or a story connection
in every situation/reply/experience.  Bear with me, I'll be back to
lurking soon.)

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From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: National Library Week
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We are starting to plan for National Library Week - yes, already! - and are
wondering what others do for this.  We have a bookmark design contest, and a
luncheon, which this year will feature Wendell Minor, an illustrator/artist
from Aurora.  We usually have a drawing for a bookstore gift certificate.
We are thinking, tentatively, of focusing on "Celebrate the Arts at the
Library."  Please excuse the duplication.

Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals/Audiovisual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL   60505
PHONE:  630-264-4100
FAX:  630-896-3209
email:  bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
www.aurora.lib.il.us

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From: Jmclacko@aol.com
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Summer Reading
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:11:33 CDT

Hi everyone,

The San Jose Public Library's summer reading club committee is looking for
new ways of packaging the summer reading program.  We want to encourage more
children and young adults to get involved.  We also want to get away from
the standard reading 8 to 10 books in 8 to 10 weeks.  We are especially
interested in how young people keep track of what they read.

Is there a set number of books they must read?

Do you ask them to write something about the books read?

What types of prizes or incentives do you offer?

Do you use commercial artwork or is it done in-house?

Do you have special programs for pre-readers and young adults? (If so,
please tell about the program).

What is the most successful thing about your summer reading program?

Thanks for all your help,

Jennifer Clacko, Youth Services Librarian
West Valley Branch Library
1243 San Tomas Aquino Rd.
San Jose, CA 95117
408-244-4766
408-984-3736 fax
jennifer.clacko@ci.sj.ca.us

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From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Reading incentives
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:13:48 CDT

Another fishing expedition.  We have a program, 11 years old, to provide
incentives to readers.  All readers can participate in the Gold Card Club.
They are given a small tally card with 100 spaces. Each time they return a
book they have used, a space is marked off.  At 100 books, their blue
library card is changed to a gold card, and they receive a trifold with
coupons for a free book, fines off, free video, free postcard.  They also
receive another tally card to continue reading.  They receive premiums such
as mugs, note cubes and book bags and bookstore gift certificates at various
hundred book levels to 1000 books.  At 1000 books, we figure they don't need
any more incentive to read.  Also, in June and December, all gold card
holders receive a special premium. In the past, this has included key
chains, sports bottles, dry marker erase boards, fancy bookmarks, which
almost always cost less than $1 per item.  In October, juvenile gold card
holders also receive a special prize, usually a bag, or reflective stickers
for Halloween.  What we need is to boost this program.  Our problem is that
we are so close to it, we can't see the forest for the trees.  Any ideas
would be greatly apprecieated! Thanks in advance.

Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals/Audiovisual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL   60505
PHONE:  630-264-4100
FAX:  630-896-3209
email:  bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
www.aurora.lib.il.us


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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: professional dress for librarians
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:16:00 CDT

Once upon a time, Nasrudin's friend was giving a party to honor him.
Nasrudin was on a tight schedule that day and he came directly from work
in the fields. When his friend met him at the dorr, he said, Nasrudin!
You can't come in like that! Go home and change, and we will wait for
you. So Nasrudin did. When he  arrived back at the party, his friend
welcomed him and they all sat down to eat. Nasrudin took his food and
...

Y'all all remember Anne Pellowski telling this one, right?

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From: Claire Isaac <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Thanks
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:19:24 CDT


Thank you to the people who sent me suggestions of where teens could get
their work published.  The additional suggestions were the magazines
TeenInk and Cicada and the website Jupiter Sky (www.jupitersky.com)

Thanks again

Claire Isaac
Regina Public Library
Regina, Saskatchewan


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From: "Rebecca Domonkos" <rebeccadomonkos@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Internet use in Children's Departments
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:21:15 CDT

We don't have any age limits on any of our computers.  Our library offers
unfiltered Internet access with privacy screens in the adult sections of the
library, and filtered Internet without privacy screens in the Youth Services
area. Any patron may use any terminal, though.

Don't age limits conflict with the Library Bill of Rights?

"5) A person's right to use a library should not be denied or abridged
because of origin, age, background, or views."

Rebecca Swensen
Youth Services Librarian
Boca Raton Public Library
rebeccaswensen@yahoo.com




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From: "Amy C. Douglas" <amyd@cddn.com>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Youth Advisory Boards
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:23:03 CDT

Dear Collective Mind:

My name is Amy Douglas and my classmate Lisa Oldoski and I are partnering to
do a project about Youth Advisory Boards in libraries.

We are both graduate students at the University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign, enrolled in LEEP, the distance learning option of the
Graduate School of Library and Information Science.  We are currently
enrolled in Christine Jenkins' "Youth Service Librarianship" course, for
which this project has been assigned.

I recently noticed a few posts on PUBYAC containing practical information
about Youth Advisory Boards.  We are interested in any information you have
about this topic: anecdotes, URLs to libraries who have such programs in
place, practical advice, checklists, resources, etc.

Please copy your replies to both of us.

Amy Douglas - amyd@cddn.com
Lisa Oldoski - lisasjournal@yahoo

Any and all help is appreciated.

------------------------------------------------
Amy C. Douglas
1214 McAdoo Circle
Union City, TN  38261
(901) 884-2928
amyd@cddn.com
acdougls@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
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From: "Gail Roberts" <groberts@sailsinc.org>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Harry Potter Readers Theater
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:24:45 CDT

Help! O Collective Intellect!  I have a group of kids interested in =
doing Readers Theater, particularly something to do with Harry Potter.  =
I seem to recall in the dim reaches of my overtasked brain, that someone =
in PUBYAC mentioned a readers theater script having to do with HP. I =
have combed the 'Net to no avail. Can anyone lead me to it or share it?  =
We'd like to do it for Children's Book Week in November.  TIA!

"The soul is healed by being with children."
Dostoevsky

Gail E. Roberts
groberts@sailsinc.org
Coordinator of Youth Services
New Bedford Free Public Library
New Bedford, MA  02740

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From: Teresa Lambert <lamberte@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: froggy's halloween
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:27:13 CDT

Hi All,
It really is true that laughter is the best medicine. How fun it's been
remembering all of the silly stupid rhymes from childhood!! I personally
love Froggy, and most of the preschool children I know do as well. It is a
bit sad to me that something like a silly childhood rhyme need be
associated with sexual harassment. It seems to me that we often put ideas
into children's heads by over criticizing things that they don't blow out
of proportion. Let's keep a child's point of view on some things for the
sake of our children.

Terry Lambert,
Youth Services Coordinator
Bluffton Public Library
Bluffton, Ohio 45817

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Charles Schacht wrote:

>
> Just took my first close look at the newly arrived FROGGY"S HALLOWEEN,
> by Jonathon London, and find myself quite unhappy to discover that one
> of the seasonal chants in it that is apparently supposed to be found
> amusing is 'TRICK OR TREAT, SMELL MY FEET, GIVE ME SOMETHING GOOD TO
> EAT; IF YOU DON'T, I DON'T CARE - I'LL PULL DOWN YOUR UNDERWEAR!" Is it
> just me, or is this the kind of attempted humor that has the potential
> to wind up encouraging kids to do things to other kids "just for fun"
> that the other kids may find majorly traumatic?  I would just as soon
> not be in the business of making light of sexual harrassment ...  Am I
> taking this all too seriously?
>
> Chuck Schacht
> Romeo District Library
> Romeo, MI.
>
>

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From: Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Internet use in Children's Departments
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:29:27 CDT

We have one internet computer in the children's room which is exclusively
for
children under 14.  There are several across the hall in the adult reference
department which are available to anyone 14 and older.  We do not filter,
but
instead have a policy which reminds users that "The monitoring of a minor's
access to the Internet is the responsibility of that person's parent or
legal guardian."  We may be getting more computers in the children's room
because of the Gates grant, but they will still be for children, and
unfiltered.    I suggest anyone on the fence about filtering try to look up
information about Dick Cheney..............  :)

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From: Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Planned Parenthood program
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Each fall in Arizona, we have National Family Sexuality Education Month
programs at many of our public libraries. There is a coalition of many
youth, health, cultural, family and religious agencies who support these
programs. Our governor has even proclaimed this a special month. During the
month, libraries throughout our area are holding programs for kids, teens
and parents on such subjects as "How to Talk to Your Kids about Sex," "What
Is Love?" and girls and boys puberty (with parents). The programs are
excellent, popular and well-attended. I think we are providing a wonderful
informational service to our public by providing these programs and I plan
to continue holding them. The programs are produced and presented by
Planned Parenthood staff and volunteers. Those who attend the programs rave
about them. In Arizona, we still have the 5th highest teen birthrate in
this country (despite recent decreases), and I am glad we can offer this
information to our public in a comfortable setting.

One thing that happens every year without fail is I get calls from irate
patrons complaining about holding a program in our library that is run by
Planned Parenthood. They can't believe we would deal with PP because of
their stance on abortion. As our director said, there is something in the
library to offend anyone, and this is one good example. I usually explain
(to those with concerns) about the coalition and the importance of getting
this information to people who need it, and that PP does not try to
pursuade anyone to have an abortion as part of the programs we offer.

I am wondering if anyone else has offered these programs through PP, and if
you have received any repercussions from the public for offering them. I am
also curious if anyone has had public pressure to discontinue these
programs or other problems due to offering them. We have not had anyone
really pursue the issue, but I would like to know how others have handled
any challenges. Thanks!

Diane Tuccillo
Senior Librarian/YA Coordinator
Mesa Public Library, AZ
Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us

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From: mccutcho@forsyth.lib.nc.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Quidditch ideas needed!
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:34:01 CDT

Dear Fellow PUBYACers
My library is doing a Halloween Harry Potter program and we
have lost our rules for library Quidditch.  If anyone has any
great ideas for the game in a library setting, I would greatly
appreciate hearing them.  Please send them directly to me at
mccutcho@forsyth.lib.nc.us. Thanks in advance for all of your
help!
Heather McCutchen
Forsyth County Public Library

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From: "Carolyn Berg" <cberg@stny.rr.com>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re:  Professional Dress- Wonderbra
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:35:52 CDT

        Elizabeth, I have also been following this discussion with great
interest.  First of all, I'm quite surprised that the topic engendered so
many responses, and that everyone is quite opinionated about the matter.  I
wasn't going to get involved, but I loved your comment.  I've always
believed library staff should avoid the stereotypical librarian look, and I
guess the Wonderbra and imitation of Marilyn would certainly do the trick!
(perhaps not for the males in the group)   Even though I'm constantly losing
the dreaded reading glasses, I 'm avoiding the chain around the neck.  While
our library does not have an official dress code, our former director felt
we should  adopt a style similar to department store clerks. (Uh, oh, I'm
sure that could be  a whole new discussion.)  While I don' t think the way
you dress affects your ability as a librarian, I think it's important to
look professional.  That doesn't necessarily mean suits and spike
heels--slacks, skirts, blazers, low shoes, jumpers, and dresses are fine.  I
tend to dress differently depending on the day and my mood--sometimes
dressier--sometimes more casual.  Patrons need to be able to determine the
employees from the other patrons.

        Sitting on needles and pins awaiting your responses,

        Carolyn Berg
        Broome County Public Library
        Binghamton, NY







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From: bkworm@mindspring.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Grinch Party
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:37:45 CDT

Several weeks ago, I posted a message requesting ideas for a Christmas
Grinch party.  I recieved many good suggestions.  Thank you to everyone who
emailed me.  I'm sorry I did not post the suggestions earlier, but I have
had an illness in the family and have been not reading email for a while.
If you posted a suggestion to the listserv, I may not have seen it and would
very much appreciate it if you would email me directly at
bkworm@mindspring.com.  I would also appreciate any further ideas anyone out
there has.
These are ideas I received:

Draw Grinch blindfolded
Make green Grinch cake decorated with red hots
Make antler headbands (like Max)
Undecorate tree race
Present stealing race (time limit to toss presents in "sleigh")
Make Grinch cookies with green icing
Contest: Who's dog looks most like Max
Grinch Tree Decorating Party (But the Grinch doesn't get the tree!)
Suess Olympics:
Green Eggs and Ham Relay
Cat in the Hat Balancing
Big Butter Battle (Yooks v. Zooks with koosh ball)
Blue Goo Game (bubble blowing)

Thank you again!!
Mary Jones
Huntsville Public Library
Huntsville, AL
bkworm@mindspring.com

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From: WHALEYL@santacruzpl.org
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Froggy's Halloween
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:40:25 CDT

Chuck,
I attended an elementary school where the girls had to wear dresses everyday
(even friday which was gym day, we had shorts to pull on so the boys didn't
see our undies). I had my unders pulled down, as did most of the girls at
one point or another and there was some quick mortification but I was not
seriously traumatized nor were the majority. We usually responded with
pulling them back up and chasing down the culprit then pulling down their
trousers or giving a well-deserved wedgie. Darn few girls just stood there
crying or mortified. If this behavior was happening in middle or high school
I would be concerned about sexual harassment but we were/ and they are are
young kids. I think we, as adults, need to stop applying adult standards to
kids. Just my two cents.

Laura

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From: "Kathy Bullene" <kbullene@timberland.lib.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Summary: Books for Babies
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:42:21 CDT

Thank you to everyone who took the time to reply to my query about
identifying distribution points for Books for Babies packets.  Here is
a summary of the suggestions:

hospitals
local doctor's offices (Ob/Gyn, general practice, and pediatricians)
programs that do home visits with new mothers
County Commission on Children and Families (or local version thereof)
birthing centers
La Leche League offices
WIC offices
midwives
track and respond to birth announcements in the newspaper
youth service center/counselor at local high school
families in the library with new babies
daycare facilities
Parents as Teachers (local group)
mom's clubs
parenting groups
box in library for patrons to submit names of new moms
churches

What we have decided to do is advertise in many of these locations but
do the actual distribution in the library.  We are requiring that the
parent bring the baby in, but not that they live in a specific location
or have a library card (we'll put an application in the packet and
promote our services when they pick it up.)  We do plan to ask them
their zip code so that we can get a sense of how wide of an area we're
drawing from.  We also plan to add something in the publicity that
mentions that it's a limited time offer--then the Friends will decide
how many packets to make up and we'll see how it goes.

Thanks again for the helpful suggestions and descriptions of how these
programs work in other libraries!

Kathy Bullene
kbullene@timberland.lib.wa.us
Librarian I, Youth Services
North Mason Timberland Library
Belfair WA 98528

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From: Kaia B Henrickson <kaiab@juno.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: teens reading to younger kids
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:44:23 CDT

Hello fellow PUBYACers!

My library is interested in setting up a program where young adults read
to younger kids in the children's room (probably just during school
holidays and the summer to start out with).  I was wondering if anyone
out there has done a similar program at their library?

If so, I would really appreciate it if you could share any information
about how the program worked, whether it was set up as a formal storytime
or more informal, how you recruited and trained the young adults, etc...
ANY information would be helpful.  I am meeting with the assistant
director and head of the children's department next Thursday to discuss
ideas.

Thank you in advance for your help.  Please respond to me directly (if
there is interest, I would be happy to post a summary of the information
I receive to the list).

Sincerely,
Kaia Henrickson

Young Adult Librarian
Framingham Public Library
Framingham, MA
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From: ScottTownshipLibrary@att.net
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Policies
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:46:21 CDT

I just became a library director, after 15 years of
Children's Services and I need some help.  I'm looking
for a management listserv and I also need policies and
proceedures.  The library board wants to rewrite all of
the policies.  I would appreciate any samples that you
could send me.

Debbie
Scott Township Library
49 Albee Drive
Belle Vernon, PA 15012

e-mail
ScottTownshipLibrary@att.net

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From: Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
To: lm_net list <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
Subject: using LOC & freemarc databases w/Winnebago
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:48:05 CDT

Hello:

Is anyone out there having success downloading LOC or Freemarc Marc records
into their Winnebago system?  I am searching without difficulty; however, in
LOC, when I try to download, the program will only export an e-mail.  When
using Freemarc, the download proceeds smoothly, but Winnebago reads, then
rejects, the Marc record.  If anyone out there has advice, I would be hugely
grateful.  I will also post a hit if I learn anything useful.

Robin

P.S.  I am using a Macintosh.
--
Robin Shtulman
Erving Elementary School
28 Northfield Rd.
Erving, MA  01344
http://www.erving.com/library/erving_library.htm
shtulman@erving.com

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