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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 10:02 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 277


    PUBYAC Digest 277

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) open mike night
by Nicole Marcucilli <nmarc@CLSN3046.glenview.lib.il.us>
  2) Re: Never mind professional attire--what about gum & candy?
by "A. Creech" <ak454@chebucto.ns.ca>
  3) Re: asked to edit book
by "Anastasia Suen" <acs56@flash.net>
  4) Re: asked to edit book
by Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org>
  5) RE: "Mature" picture books
by "Townshend, Peggy" <PTownshend@mailserv.gcpl.lib.oh.us>
  6) RE: Picture book topics
by Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
  7) Grinch party suggestions
by Suzanne Kirk <suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com>
  8) chair and a half
by Holland <hollandd@sls.lib.il.us>
  9) Re: Asked to edit a book
by Beth Werking <bwerking@kokomo.lib.in.us>
 10) Re: Never mind professional attire--what about gum & candy?
by Holland <hollandd@sls.lib.il.us>
 11) Re: Never mind professional attire--what about gum & candy?
by Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
 12) Fwd: Graphic Novel Reviews?
by "Carolyn Grote" <cgrote@ci.glendale.az.us>
 13) Re: asked to edit book
by Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
 14) RE: Science Reference
by "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
 15) RE: halloween crafts, games, ...
by WLPL <children@wlaf.lib.in.us>
 16) Damaged books
by Lori Pulliam <lpulliam@mediaone.net>
 17) Harry Potter - what else?!
by "Carol Tassielli" <ctassielli@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
 18) RE: asked to edit book
by Sandra Strandtmann <sandras@juneau.lib.ak.us>
 19) professional dress--again!
by karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
 20) Re: asked to edit book
by "Melanie C. Duncan" <duncanm@mail.bibb.public.lib.ga.us>
 21) Re: asked to edit book
by "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
 22) Re: New Harry Potter
by "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
 23) Re: library cards
by "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
 24) H. Potter
by "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
 25) Teen Mystery Night
by CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
 26) Teen Mystery
by CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
 27) Teen Murder Mystery
by CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
 28) Teen Murder Mystery
by CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
 29) Teen Murder Myster
by CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
 30) Re: collection development
by Jane Whiteside <mollylibrary@yahoo.com>
 31) Re: library cards
by Jane Whiteside <mollylibrary@yahoo.com>
 32) Froggy and Joy to the World...
by "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>

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From: Nicole Marcucilli <nmarc@CLSN3046.glenview.lib.il.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: open mike night
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:07:59 CDT

Can someone give me some good ideas for not only hosting an open mike
night, but also for decorating for one.  I will be doing one for teens
during Teen Poetry Week.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks in
advance. 

Nicole Marcuccilli
YA Librarian
Glenview (IL) Public Library

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From: "A. Creech" <ak454@chebucto.ns.ca>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Never mind professional attire--what about gum & candy?
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:19:14 CDT

Hey all.  We don't allow food or drink for patrons or staff.  I don't
think anyone minds cough drops and throat lozenges--usually, if you are
using those, it's because you need too.  Although have you ever had to
take a reference telephone call while sucking on a Halls?  probably best
avoided if at all possible.  I personally don't chew gum (I have TMJ,
which chewing gum really aggravates), and would prefer that nobody did
while working (after all, we weren't allowed to chew gum when I worked in
a grocery store--it put forward a "bad" image to customers). What
surprises me is how many people use gum instead of bringing a toothbrush
and toothpaste to work and cleaning your teeth after lunch or break.  Then
you don't need to chew gum, and don't need to worry about whether or not
chewing gum is against a professional image.

I worked in an academic library where they decided to "relax" the food
policy for a year, too see how it would go.  What a disaster.  That little
bit of leniency was seen by many as free rein to do whatever they
wanted--we had students with open cups of coffee dripping them from the
first to fourth floors, peoole bringing in entire pizzas, food everywhere,
wrappers everywhere, half empty cups of coffee left inthe stacks to grow
mould.  Oh, they are still trying to sort out the mess that one made.
Even certain staff members were abusing the "relaxed" policy.  I don't
htink it is a mistake they will make again.

In our system, we do feel that if we are going to hold the patrons to
certain standards concerning food and drink, then we should be held to
them too.  We have a water fountain, so you don't need to bring in drinks.
We have a lobby--you can eat out there.

One co-worker used to say "Don't eat in my library, and I won't read in
your living room".  Got the odd funny look, but people seemed to get the
point!

I think this is starting to ramble.

Alison


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This has been an electronic owl from
  ,_,
 (*v*)     Alison Creech
 [`-']     Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
 -"-"-     ak454@chebucto.ns.ca

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From: "Anastasia Suen" <acs56@flash.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: asked to edit book
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:20:34 CDT

I am not a librarian, but a published children's author. I would recommend
that you let her know about  SCBWI, the Society of Children's Book Writers
and Illustrators. http://www.scbwi.org I live in your area [Plano] so I know
that we have an active SCBWI chapter here. SCBWI is worldwide now, with over
12,000 members. Critique groups, writers and illustrators conferences,
networking, etc, are all a part of what we offer our members. We even have
online critique groups now!

Another possibility is to recommend a writing class at a local university or
community college. I teach Writing the Picture Book at SMU. Another SCBWI
member teaches writing for children at TCU. These classes are offered as
"Informal Courses" in Adult or Continuing Education.

The web itself is another resource. I belong to several writing listservs,
and CW is "Children's Writing", a listserv specifically for people who want
to write for children. Several online critique groups have been formed from
this group. Here is the URL for CW:  http://www.pfdstudio.com/cw-info.html

Best!
Anastasia Suen
http://www.asuen.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah Dornback <dornback@hotmail.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:48 AM
Subject: asked to edit book


> I had a young woman come in today who said that she is trying to get a
> children's book published.  She wanted me to read it for her, and make
> suggestions on how to make it better.  Has this situation happened to
anyone
> else?  Does it happen often?  How do you handle it (or how do you think
you
> would handle it if it has not happened to you)?  I declined, and she did
not
>
> seem upset that I wouldn't do it.  But I am curious if this might be
> something that Children's librarians are often asked to do.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts you might like to share.
>
> Sarah Dornback
> Farmers Branch Manske Library
> Farmers Branch, TX
> dornback@hotmail.com
> _________________________________________________________________________

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From: Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: asked to edit book
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:21:54 CDT

I would be quite wary of this. Writers not used to being
critiqued sometimes say that they want suggestions, but they
really don't. They just want praise and become hurt or angry if
you are less than enthusiastic.
I would direct her to www.scbwi.org, the Society of Children's
Book Writers and Illustrators. Their state affiliate will help
her hook up with a peer critique group or pay for a professional
critique at one of their conferences. Unpublished writers can
join as associate members. It is the best fifty dollars she will
ever spend.
Christine M. Hill
Willingboro Public Library
One Salem Road
Willingboro, NJ 08046
chill@willinboro.org
My new book! Ten Terrific Authors for Teens, Enslow, 2000

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From: "Townshend, Peggy" <PTownshend@mailserv.gcpl.lib.oh.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: "Mature" picture books
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:23:25 CDT

In our library system we have a growing collection of books with the call
number J 3-4.  This collection includes short chapter books (i.e. Berenstain
Bears Big Chapter Books), as well as picture books with more mature themes,
or complex text.  I have noticed more and more very well illustrated books
for older children,  and while it does present an intriguing problem for
cataloguers,  I think older children do appreciate these books.

Peggy Townshend, Children's Librarian
Yellow Springs Community Library
415 Xenia Ave.
Yellow Springs, OH 45387
937-767-7661
email:  ptownshend@mailserv.gcpl.lib.oh.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Peggy Northcraft [mailto:mdu002@mail.connect.more.net]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:57 AM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject:


Hello, All

Let's talk about appropriate topics for picture books.  I am getting ready
to teach a Children's Lit course at a local college and ran across a couple
of books I really wonder about which reminded that there are others I have
wondered about.  Specifically I am talking about SMOKY NIGHT by Eve Bunting
and HIROSHIMA NO PIKA by Toshi Maruki.  Picture books?  How popular have
they been?

Will really appreciate a discussion of this.

Peggy
Margaret "Peggy" Northcraft
Children's Librarian
Hannibal Free Public Library
Hannibal MO
"Librarians give safe harbor to the thoughts and dreams, knowledge and
aspirations of humankind." Me

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From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Picture book topics
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:24:41 CDT


I think it's important to differentiate between "Picture books" as a format,
and books for preschoolers.  No, of course these are not books for
preschoolers.  They are, however, very well suited to the picture book
format, which can vividly express a story or subject in a way that novels
cannot.  At our library we refer to them as "Picture Books for Older
Readers," (specifically 4th grade and up).  Some other libraries call them
"illustrated fiction" or "picture tales" and include illustrated fairy tales
and folktales.

If you don't have a way of differentiating these books from your preschool
books, perhaps they should be shelved with your juvenile fiction.

Andrea Johnson
Cook Memorial Public Library
Libertyville, IL
ajohnson@cooklib.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peggy Northcraft [SMTP:mdu002@mail.connect.more.net]
>
> Let's talk about appropriate topics for picture books.  I am getting ready
> to teach a Children's Lit course at a local college and ran across a
> couple of books I really wonder about which reminded that there are others
> I have wondered about.  Specifically I am talking about SMOKY NIGHT by Eve
> Bunting and HIROSHIMA NO PIKA by Toshi Maruki.  Picture books?  How
> popular have
> they been?
>

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From: Suzanne Kirk <suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Grinch party suggestions
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:26:31 CDT

I was out for a while and missed the suggestion for a
Grinch party.  I would love to have one for Christmas.
If anyone has any they are willing to share with me, I
would really appreciate it.  Please reply directly to
me.  Thank you.

=====
Suzanne Kirk
Henry County Public Library
172 Eminence Terrace
Eminence KY  40019
Ph 502-845-5682
Fax 502-845-4807
e-mail Suzie_q_40011@yahoo.com

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From: Holland <hollandd@sls.lib.il.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: chair and a half
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:27:55 CDT


Some time ago there was a discussion of "chair and a half" for little
kids and moms.  Does anyone know where this type of chair can be
purchased? I need to know by early next week.  If anyone can help I would
appreciate it. FAX 708-453-4671 or e-mail.

Dorothy
Elmwood Park Public Library
Youth Services
hollandd@sls.lib.il.us

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From: Beth Werking <bwerking@kokomo.lib.in.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Asked to edit a book
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:29:28 CDT

Three words. Don't do it.  I have succumbed to pleas such as "I just want a
professional opinion" or "I need someone to honestly tell me if this is
publish-able".  The problem is that telling the aspiring author that their
book has flaws is like telling a mother that she has an ugly baby.  Instead,
refer them to published resources or take the opportunity to introduce some
of your favorite titles and tell them why you think it is such a good story.
Much, much safer.

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From: Holland <hollandd@sls.lib.il.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Never mind professional attire--what about gum & candy?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:30:54 CDT


I don't think gum or candy, food or beverages should be in sight at a
public desk although it's pretty common today. I have a close relative in
a nursing home and have been very annoyed when I see the staff eating,
drinking, and smoking in front of the residents and their visitors. I was
also annoyed when I visited a law library in a court house and the clerk
or librarian--whatever he was--couldn't answer my question because his
mouth was full. I looked down and saw that he had a plate of food. I
guess I interrupted his lunch but it made me very uncomfortable. It would
have been better if he just left and put up a sign saying "I will be back
at 11:15 am or whenever he was finished with his lunch.

Dorothy
Elmwood Park Public Library
Youth Services
hollandd@sls.lib.il.us


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From: Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Never mind professional attire--what about gum & candy?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:32:15 CDT

Okay, I will enter the fray.  How about the idea that, short of making a
mess or damaging a computer, library workers should be permitted to
drink water or even coffee behind the counter.  Many of us can't get
away to whet our whistles, while the library patrons can!  But patrons
out on the floor of the library should not be able to eat or drink
because odds are they will leave spills or crumbs, and they have the
option of going out for refreshments.  What do you think?

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From: "Carolyn Grote" <cgrote@ci.glendale.az.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Fwd: Graphic Novel Reviews?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:33:29 CDT

(This message is being forwarded by a friend, because my e-mail is being =
extremely wonky. Please respond to the address below. )

Hello To All In LibraryLand:

I have recently started a Graphic Novel collection in our YA Area.  The =
collection, a mix of superhero titles, more "mature" works such as =
Gaiman's Sandman series, and a sprinkling of manga has proven to be =
tremendously popular, having a 200% circulation in it's first month! =20

Now I am faced with the problem of keeping this colleciton current.  Does =
anyone know of a good review source for graphic novels, either online or =
in print form?  I am aware of the reviews in VOYA and the occasional =
review in Entertainment Weekly (!), but I am looking for something that is =
published regularly, and that covers a wide variety of titles.=20

If there is such a beast, please contact me with info at mjenson-benjamin@c=
i.glendale.az.us

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From: Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: asked to edit book
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:34:50 CDT

Yes, I've been asked to read manuscripts before.  So have several of my
colleagues.  I try to politely decline.  Editing is a professional job, time
consuming and requiring specific skills.  If the patron is a personal
friend, it
may be a different matter.  But just because we are familiar with children's
books and select, weed and often review them, doesn't mean we are good at
editing.  Also, you can get into hot water when the person asks for
criticism
but really doesn't want to hear it.  Especially if he or she is a friend!

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From: "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Science Reference
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Jennifer & folks-- I'm one of the editors who puts the online
reviews into SLJ, so I beg a moment to ask a question of the group. I'm
speaking here of when Jennifer Andersen said, "The review said nothing about
not being able to just purchase this online version." Because Grolier Online
(GO) requires schools & libraries to subscribe to at least two of their
base-line encyclopedias (Grolier Multimedia Encyc, Encyc Americana, or New
Book of Knowledge Online) before one can subscribe to any additionial ref
products such os the New Book of Pop Sci Online, I made sure that the
bibliographic data at the beginning of the review (in the Aug 2000 issue, p.
140) said, "Single user $149, plus Grolier Online subscription." I thought
this was sufficient to warn folks, but maybe it isn't. I don't want to give
a dollar amount for the GO subscription because it's different depending on
how your library subscribes (e.g. whether you're part of a consortium or
state-wide subscription or not). Any suggestions on how to make this clearer
in the review would be appreciated (it's SLJ policy not to talk about price
in the text of the review itself, BTW); thanks. --W

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Walter Minkel * Technology Editor, School Library Journal * www.slj.com
wminkel@cahners.com * (212) 463-6721 * fax (212) 463-6689

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jandersen@carmel.lib.in.us [SMTP:jandersen@carmel.lib.in.us]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:30 AM
> To: pubyac@prairienet.org
> Subject: Re: Science Reference
>
> In the September 2000 issue of SLJ there is a review for an online version
> of The New Book of Popular Science.  I have just requested a free 30-day
> trial so I don't know how "good" it is compared to the print version, but
> if you go to http://go.grolier.com you can also request a free trial.
>
> The review said nothing about not being able to just purchase this online
> version.  The rep who emailed me my temp. password stated I would have to
> purchase two or more of their online databases.  This is a definite
> drawback and something we will be seriously considering before deciding to
> purchase this item.
>
> I have yet to find any really good general science cdroms that are
> information oriented and not game oriented.  So many of them include game
> elements.  If you come up with any, please let me know as we are always
> looking for great new resources for our patrons!
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Jennifer
> ************************************************************
>                                |"We're fortunate you know.
> Jennifer L. Andersen           |Too many people in this
> Children's Services Librarian  |world spend their lives
> Carmel Clay Public Library     |doing work that doesn't
> 55 4th AVE SE                  |really matter in the great
> Carmel, IN 46032               |scheme of things.  But
> 317-844-3363 or 814-3917       |bringing children and books
> jandersen@carmel.lib.in.us     |together does matter.  And
>                                |we get to do it."
>        |    --Katherine Paterson
> ************************************************************

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From: WLPL <children@wlaf.lib.in.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: halloween crafts, games, ...
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:38:06 CDT

We make ghosts out of kleenex over dum dum suckers with a piece of yarn tied
around their neck.  We also make bats by cutting out a pattern for front and
back, coloring the pieces and pasting them onto a craft stick.

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From: Michelle Gabbard
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 8:13 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: halloween crafts, games, ...

Hello!

We are trying to pull all of the details for our Halloween party for 1st
through 3rd grades together.  I am just not happy with any of the craft
ideas that we have came across.  Is anyone else tire of pipe cleaner
spiders?  So I was wondering if any of you have some ideas that you would
share.  I am also interested in games.

Thank you


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From: Lori Pulliam <lpulliam@mediaone.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Damaged books
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:39:23 CDT

I need help with a delicate situation.  One of our patrons, a boy with
severe disabilities, has been returning some books so damaged that I can no
longer circulate them.  I've spoken with his attendant about the
problem.  The pages of the books are sticky from saliva, and there are also
food particles in the books.  She asked me what solutions I had and I
really didn't know what to suggest.  She said the family would pay for any
damaged books until I came up with a better idea about how to protect the
books.  This boy really loves books and reads them 100s of times.  I know
she tries to keep him from damaging the books, but he wants to touch
them.  Does anyone have any experience dealing with a situation like this?

Lori Pulliam
River Forest Public Library
River Forest, IL  60305
lpulliam@mediaone.net

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From: "Carol Tassielli" <ctassielli@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
To: <PUBYAC@PRAIRIENET.ORG>
Subject: Harry Potter - what else?!
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:40:45 CDT

A while ago I asked for  ideas on playing Quidditch for a programme I was
having.  Just wanted to say thanks.  The party was a GREAT success.  One
suggestion for the Golden Snitch - spray paint it gold - had disastrous
results for me:  the styrofoam ball disintegrated.  I used instead gold foil
paper and just twisted the ends on either side.  Easy and the ends looked
like little wings.
Thanks to all once again who sent their ideas, etc.   Carol in Toronto
(awaiting Ms Rowling's appearance at the "Skydome" on Tuesday.....

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From: Sandra Strandtmann <sandras@juneau.lib.ak.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: asked to edit book
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:42:08 CDT

I have mostly refused when I have been asked to critique a manuscript, but
twice I agreed. Once was for a published author who is also a personal
friend. She took my suggestions very seriously and actually changed the
things I suggested. However that particular book has not been published yet.

The second was a storytime mom who was crushed by my suggestions. I was very
sorry that I agreed. I will never do it again.

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From: karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: professional dress--again!
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:43:46 CDT

I have to get back into this discussion again.  I
agree with everyone who said it's important to be able
to tell who the staff members are which is another
reason why I don't feel we shoul look too casual.
What I wear depends on what's happening that day; a
suit for a class visit or if I'm visiting a school; a
skirt or nice pants outfit for a storytime day; just
pants & a nice sweater or blouse for a "nothing
special" day.  Badges?  What badges?  My director
doesn't believe in them. I do (but no one asked me)! I
don't see what the problem would be if people knew my
name & title.







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From: "Melanie C. Duncan" <duncanm@mail.bibb.public.lib.ga.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: asked to edit book
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:45:02 CDT

I have been asked to edit books before, and I have done so. *After* work
and for a set price. I used to proofread/copyedit fairly regularly before I
became heavily involved in book reviewing. Now, I just don't have the time.

I treat patrons who ask me to "read over" their English papers/essays the
same way. As long as it's free, they're dying to have you look at it, but
the moment you mention "Why yes, I'd be happy to take a look at it after
work. My hourly rate starts at $25" they suddenly decide they really don't
want it proofed after all.

Now if I could just get my regular job to pay that much <G>....


Sincerely,
Melanie C. Duncan, M.S.L.S.
Christian Fiction columnist, Library Journal
Editor/Publisher, The Bookdragon Review (ISSN 1527-0157)
http://www.bookdragonreview.com

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From: "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: asked to edit book
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:46:20 CDT

I have been asked, and have declined, since I'm not an editor and wouldn't
know how to help someone get a manuscript published - there are other people
out there who do such things.

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From: "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: New Harry Potter
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:47:35 CDT

AND she'll probably change the "working title" several times before next
fall, so we still don't know anything!
-----Original Message-----
From: HFL_LISA@stls.org <HFL_LISA@stls.org>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Date: Friday, October 20, 2000 12:08 PM
Subject: New Harry Potter


>Just thought someone would like to know...J.K. Rowling just
>announced on the Today show that the new Potter book will
>probably be called Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix and
>will NOT be out next summer..possible the fall.
>L.Dowling
>Horseheads Free Library
>
>There are some advantages to flex time-like still be home
>watching TV at 9AM!
>
>

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From: "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: library cards
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:48:59 CDT

We issue cards to children of any age (including infants, in some cases)
whose parents want them to have cards.  Parents must sign the form for
anyone under 16 - and no, parents are never required to have their own
cards.

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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: H. Potter
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:50:32 CDT

Guess the merchandising has started. I had a lady who works at a =
Hallmark store come in today to start the H. P. books since they got in =
a big display of Harry Potter ornaments, picture frames, etc. and she =
felt she needed to familiarize herself with the characters.=20

Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us

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From: CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen Mystery Night
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:51:52 CDT


Since you're both looking to do a murder mystery night, I thought I'd save
a little time and answer your questions together.

My Teen Advisory Board did a murder mystery night last year.  We used a
kit from Double Dog Press, and modified it to fit into a library setting.
TAB kids acted it out - other kids who registered followed along.  We had
one kid acting as detective; he sort of led the group along, making sure
all clues were uncovered.  A couple times during the course of the
investigation, the participants were set free to roam around and find
clues.  The teams that figured out the murderer were given a prize, and we
all had refreshments.

We did our program on a Friday night after the Library is closed - that
way we could use the entire library, not have to worry about noise, and
even got to use the staff areas, like the garage.  Everyone seemed to have
a lot of fun; TAB has been bugging me ever since to do another, so next
summer we'll be on again.

This could be a great project for a local junior theater group as well.
The acting would have to be better than my kids!  In general, tho, kids
here love after hours programming - the ability to run and yell in the
library is just too much fun!

Good luck with your projects, and please feel free to contact me if you
have any questions.

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Maria Levetzow
Bettendorf Public Library
2950 Learning Campus Dr
Bettendorf IA  52722
319-344-4188
mlevetzo@libby.rbls.lib.il.us

Any opinions stated herein are mine only, and do not necessarily reflect
the opinions or policies of the Bettendorf Public Library.

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From: CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen Mystery
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:53:15 CDT


Miranda,

I've been looking at murder mystery program material my own self for the
state SRC manual for 2002.

I've had access to all  the state manuals  at the Alabama Public Library
Service.  One of them was for "Treasure Your Library" the 1999
Cooperative Summer Library Program for Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota,
Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Utah (gotta give credit where
it's due). There was instructions for a treasure/pirate murder mystery
which I have copied and will sent snail mail if you will send your
address.

I have not presented it and have had experience only with an individual
who regularly presents this type of programs to young adult (and younger
and older) groups. It is a great program and one that I am happy to have
another present.

Anyway, if you want it, let me know...

grace

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From: CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen Murder Mystery
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:54:36 CDT

Hello,

I'm actually the new children's librarian at the Ellensburg Public
Library, WA but I did find an old flyer about a Myster Program that was
done.

The Chief of Police was actually invited to head the program.  She would
read some mystery stories and talk about real life solving crimes and
mysteries.  Perhaps your city's Chief or someone from the department can
volunteer some time.

Good luck!
Josephine Yaba

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From: CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen Murder Mystery
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:56:14 CDT


Dear Miranda,
Please check out the website below. The home page links to mystery kits
for teens (Anyone's Guess) and kids in grades 3-5 (InvestiCats). You can
also check out the Mystery Planning Tips http://dbldog.com/mysplan.htm
and Sharing: Tips and Comments
http://dbldog.com/comments.htm
pages, which give some advice on putting on mystery programs.

I also have a paper brochure about the kits, and I'd be happy to answer
any questions if you'd like to email me. Hope this is helpful!

Janet Dickey

@(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_(.(_@
DoubleDog Press                 <doubledog@core.com>
P.O.Box 46826          Anyone's Guess and InvestiCats Mystery Kits
Bedford, OH 44146-0826          http://dbldog.com/
@)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_).)_@

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From: CARYM@charleston.lib.sc.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen Murder Myster
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:58:03 CDT

Miranda,

We had a Mystery Night in August. It was great.

I bought a kit (Death Gets a Red Card) from DoubleDog Press, P.O. Box
46826, Bedford, OH 44146-0826. (doubledog@core.com) http://dbldog.com/

It was $40 and worth every penny. It still required a fair amount of
preparation of clues and props, but directions were easy to follow. Doing
the detail work allows you to adapt the mystery to your situation. For
example it suggests the "scene of the crime" should be done indoors with
plants or drawing of shrubs for props. We have a small branch with a little
staff parking lot in back. Since the body was supposed to be found in the
library parking lot, that's where we put it (the chalk outline of course).
I also used my car as an "impounded" car rather than build a box that
looked like a car trunk.

We had 25 kids, mostly fifteen and under, sign up. 19 came. For our
situation, 25 is about all we could handle well. The kids loved it. They
wanted to know when the next one is scheduled. I was just trying to get
past Friday night! Oh well, the price of success. Now we have to plan
another one. I did have our summer reading volunteers help prepare the
clues, but was careful not to give them enough information to solve the
mystery.

We planned 6:30 to 8:30 and it was about right. Served popcorn, lemonade,
cookies and Hershey's miniatures. Food seemed to add to the fun. Also gave
"Outstanding Detection Certificates" and free paperback books to everyone
for trying so hard.

Good luck,

Leslie Westbrook
Supervising Librarian
Springstowne Library
Vallejo, CA 94591


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From: Jane Whiteside <mollylibrary@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: collection development
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:59:21 CDT

Hi, Rose.
I serve a two library district of 80,000 people in a
busy distant suburb of Chicago. 

We weed drastically because we have no space to keep
old, outdated, or unused things. 

Our children's departments are about 50% of the
district circulation.

We don't have DVD's or CD roms yet for circulation.

We still buy children's music cassettes; we do buy
CD's.  We are considering the need to buy adult
cassettes.

Books on tape.  We do buy cassettes and now some CD's.
 I have been hesitant to purchase children's book CD's
because of the expense. 

It sounds like you need to do a community survey to
find out what your new clientele need.

Good luck.

--- Rose Cook <RCook@opld.org> wrote:
> Dear Members,
>
>          I'm looking for feedback regarding
> collection development and space
> needs.  The community is about 30,000 and growing.
> We were a small farm
> community until a growth spurt began and now we have
> a majority of citizens
> who live here, but work elsewhere.  The school are
> predicting a growth of
> between 6-8% per grade in the next five years.  The
> community has about an
> 60- 40 ratio children to adults.  The people are
> generally white collar with
> a core of farmers and land.  We are interested as to
> what other similar type
> communities are doing as far as collections go.  Do
> you offer CD Roms and
> DVD's for check out?  Do you still use the cassettes
> for music and stories
> or have you converted mostly to CD's? How large of a
> collection do you have
> for books and tapes for beginning readers and audio
> books for older
> children.  Any suggestions for expanding space
> without building on?  Do you
> have a separate YA area and what ages do you place
> in that group? Our
> children's programs, at!
>  this time, use the general meeting rooms.  Does
> your library have a
> separate space for youth programs?The town is
> situated near an affluent
> community and a poorer community.  While the growth
> goes on the library
> needs to continue to meet old and new concerns.
> Thank you for any input
> rcook@opld.org
>


=====
Jane M. Whiteside
District Collection Management Coordinator
Fountaindale Public Library District
Bolingbrook and Romeoville, Illinois
jmwhiteside@htls.lib.il.us

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From: Jane Whiteside <mollylibrary@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: library cards
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:01:03 CDT

Hi Cathy.

We do not require parents to hold a library card, but
they do need to sign for a minor (up to 8th
grade--high school may sign for themselves with school
ID) as long as the parent provides proper ID.
--- Cathy Norman <csn71650@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry to bother you all again.  Once again - I need
> to know something =
> and you folks are the best and the quickest.  Here
> we go:
> 1)  What is your library's policy regarding issuing
> cards to minor =
> children?
> 2)  Must a parent sign for the card?
> 3)  Are parents REQUIRED to have a card in order for
> the child to have a =
> card?
> 4)  Can we, indeed, REQUIRE anyone to have a library
> card if they do not =
> wish to avail themselves of the services of the
> library?
> Add any information you feel would be useful.
> Peace and blessings,
> Cathy Norman
> Youth Services Librarian
> Fairport Harbor Public Library
> 335 Vine St.  Fairport Harbor, OH  44077
> csn71650@hotmail.com
> 440-354-8191
>


=====
Jane M. Whiteside
District Collection Management Coordinator
Fountaindale Public Library District
Bolingbrook and Romeoville, Illinois
jmwhiteside@htls.lib.il.us

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From: "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Froggy and Joy to the World...
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:02:28 CDT

As I was in the car today talking about the "Froggy flap" that has happened
on PUBYAC and the "Joy to the World" song, my 8 year old daughter reminded
me of another version of that song that involved not a teacher, but Barney,
the big purple dinosaur. I remember that she and a friend used to sing it
incessently a couple of years ago when they got out of the Barney stage. It
goes something like the other one, but this way:

Joy to the world,
Barney's dead
We barbecued his head
Don't worry about the body, etc. etc. ad nauseum...

Then, there is also the popular,

I hate you, you hate me,
Let's hang Barney from a tree
Shoot him in the head with a .44
Now there is no dinosaur

She also knows the "trick or treat smell my feet" one.  As far as I know,
she and her friend have not become mass murderers, or been tempted to pull
down any underwear. Nor has she exhibited a fetish for smelling feet,
either.

Lighten up.....life is too short to be taken so seriously...

If you're happy and you know it, TELL YOUR FACE!!!

Barbara Scott
Children's Librarian, Bucyrus Public Library
Ohio Reading Program Manual Editor

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