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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 307


    PUBYAC Digest 307

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Children's library card registrations
by "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
  2) Re: YA nonfiction - interfile or not?
by Kathleen Schen <schenka@oplin.lib.oh.us>
  3) Trixie Belden
by Tammy Schneider <castls@kentlibrary.lib.mi.us>
  4) Re: Children's library card registrations
by Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>
  5) Question from SLJ
by "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
  6) Online city maps?
by "Miriam Neiman" <Neiman@glasct.org>
  7) Puppet Stand/Tree
by "ysstaff" <ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us>
  8) RE: Collections of Picture Book Art
by "Jeanette Larson" <jlarson@tenet.edu>
  9) Re: Books We Need More Of
by "Children" <children@fnsb.lib.ak.us>
 10) Re: Music Collection
by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 11) New books for 4th graders
by "Bill or Mary Schrader" <bills@sirius.com>
 12) folktale stumper
by "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
 13) Bee Riddle
by "Children" <children@fnsb.lib.ak.us>
 14) Stumper - "Make our country grow"
by Marci Davis <marcid@multcolib.org>

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From: "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Children's library card registrations
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:03:09 CST

We ask for the parent/guardian's signature on the library card application
until the child is 13 years old.  At that age, they can sign for themselves.
We don't distinguish between actual parents and grandparents, since we are a
resort community and many kids who come in are visiting their grandparents.
Then again, many of these kids just use their grandparent's card to check
out items.
Some libraries in our area don't charge fines for kids' items, or don't
charge fines on items checked out on kids' cards, but we find that to be a
little confusing.  Anyway, our fines are only 5 cents/day, so we don't hear
much complaining!
Hope this helps.
--Curry Rose Hoskey
Youth Services Librarian
Eastham Public Library
190 Samoset Rd.
Eastham MA  02642
http://www.capecod.net/~elibrary/
Opinions expressed are my own, not the library's.

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From: Kathleen Schen <schenka@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: YA nonfiction - interfile or not?
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:11:52 CST

Our YA nonfiction is interfiled with adult nonfiction, but there is a YA
sticker on the spine.  It helps staff as well as students more easily pick
out books on the student's level. 
Presently our YA fiction is also interfiled with adult fiction, again with
a YA sticker on the spine.  When we remodel next year we will have a
special YA section, but only for their fiction and career books.
Nonfiction will still be interfiled.
North Canton Public Library is a small library.

Kathy

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From: Tammy Schneider <castls@kentlibrary.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Trixie Belden
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:19:20 CST

Would any of you like to see the Trixie Belden series back in print?  I
seem to get requests for them on a regular basis, and our copies are
looking really bad.  I called Grolier, who owns Childrens Press, and asked
if they were planning on reprinting them.  The woman I spoke to said she
wasn't aware of any upcoming reprints, but if I wanted to make that
suggestion, I should send a letter to the following address:

Attn: Editorial Department
Grolier Publishing
90 Sherman Turnpike
Danbury, CT 06816

Maybe a united front would help sway their decision. I'm sure a short note
will do.

Thanks!

____________________________________________________________________________
___

Tammy Schneider
Youth Librarian
Kent District Library
Cascade Branch
Grand Rapids, MI

"Opinions given above are personal, and do not reflect official library
policy or statements."

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From: Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>
To: Jennifer Murphy <murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Children's library card registrations
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:27:15 CST

Jennifer,

As a young adult librarian, I feel a concern about this policy.  In our
system, children do not have to be with the guardian to get a card, but
we do send a postcard home to the parent letting them know the child got
a new card.  This postcard explains the responsibilities the parent and
the child have for library materials.

My concern is that many teens come to the library without parents and
may be prohibited from using library materials by having to have their
parent present.  Many parents work fulltime, including myself, and would
find it to be a hardship to match schedules with their teens to come
into the library.  Is there any particular reason why your library feels
a need to put this restriction on?

On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Jennifer Murphy
wrote:

> Our policy is about to change to say that anyone under 18 years of age
must
> be accompanied by a parent in order to get a card.  The parent must have
> photo I.D. and proof of address.  The parent must have a card in good
> standing, or get one.  Information about the parent will be entered on the
> child's record.  Under consideration is a requirement that only the
> custodial parent can get the child a card.  Obviously our library is in a
> community that has a lot of broken and blended families, and children who
> are moved frequently.  Do people find this a bit grim?
>

Rosalie Olds, Young Adult Librarian
King County Library System
Fairwood Library
Renton, WA

Life's too short to read bad books or drink bad wine!


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From: "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Question from SLJ
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:34:25 CST

Folks-- Hi. I'm working on a column for Library Journal/School Library
Journal's _NetConnect_ publication, & I'd like to find out what your
policies are for posting pictures of kids (and adults) on your library Web
site. (But I'm particularly interested in your policies concerning pictures
of kids.) I know that libraries have different policies, & I'm trying to see
how widely they range.

1) Do you post pictures of kids attending your programs & events?

2) How do you mention names of kids who win contests or submit book reviews?
No name, just first name, first name with initial of last name, full name?

3) Do you post pictures of kids with their name (even first name only) or
not?

4) Do you post them if parents sign a release?

5) To whom does you library look for "the final word" about pics-on-the-Web
policy? Director? Library board? City/county commission? City/county
attorney?

6) I'm interested in hearing if you have a story about posting names or
pictures of kids online.

Please reply to me privately, and thanks! --W

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Walter Minkel * Technology Editor, School Library Journal * www.slj.com
wminkel@cahners.com * (212) 463-6721 * fax (212) 463-6689

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From: "Miriam Neiman" <Neiman@glasct.org>
To: <yalsa-bk@ala.org>, <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Online city maps?
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:42:47 CST

First of all, I apologize for cross-posting and for posting something that's
not about a book! But I'm hoping that someone out there can help ease our
frustrations.

We frequently have students ask for web sites where they can find maps of
(usually non-US) cities. Most often we can only find maps of the country
with the city marked. Lonely Planet has a few city maps available, and we've
found a few just with a web search. But I've looked on IPL, Google, Yahoo,
and some GIS sites for a collection of this type, and have had no luck.

Miriam Neiman


The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of my employer.

Miriam Neiman
YA/Reference Librarian/Web Page Mistress
Welles-Turner Memorial Library
Glastonbury, CT

http://www.wtmlib.com

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From: "ysstaff" <ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Puppet Stand/Tree
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:50:39 CST

Hello,
I know this was brought up a few months ago, but we are still in need of a
wooden puppet stand, approximately 5-6 feet tall, and able to hold about 24+
puppets.  I no longer have the suggestions that were given earlier.  Does
anyone know where I can find something like this?  Thank you in advance for
your help.


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Youth Services
L.E. Phillips Memorial Public Library
Eau Claire, WI 54701
(715)839-5007 - voice
(715)833-5310 - fax

www.eauclaire.lib.wi.us
ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us
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From: "Jeanette Larson" <jlarson@tenet.edu>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Collections of Picture Book Art
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:58:22 CST

The National Center for Children's Illustrated Literature in Abilene, Texas
is devoted entirely to original illustrations from children's literature.
Go to www.nccil.org for information.  I had the pleasure of attending the
grand opening of the new permanent facility in September and enjoyed an
exhibit of works by Jerry and Brian Pinkey.

Jeanette Larson
Texas State Library
jlarson@tenet.edu


Martha Link wrote:

> I am looking for museums or universities with permanent collections of the
> art of picture book illustrators.  I know that the Art Institute in
Chicago
> has a rotating display and that there is a collection in Wisconsin?  Is
> there picture book art on display in other locations?
> thanks for your help, and I'll post a compilation to list for posterity...
> Martha
>
> Martha Link
> Children's Special Programs Librarian
> Louisville Free Public Library
> 301 York St.
> Louisville KY 40203
> 502-574-1684
> 502-574-1833 (fax)
> martha@lfpl.org

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From: "Children" <children@fnsb.lib.ak.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Books We Need More Of
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:05:57 CST

I remember that books about wolverines was on the list, because I was
surprised that I was not the only person who listed it.  I too have been off
the list for a while,  and no longer have the original.
                    Sue Sherif, Fairbanks North Star Borough Public Library

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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Music Collection
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:14:40 CST

I have always been very pleased with the selection and customer service
from the Educational Record Center
         1-800-438-1637

         www.erc-inc.com

They have a wide selection of CDs, cassettes, and videos.  I rarely find
any item needs to be backordered, and orders are shipped promptly.

Highly recommended.

Lisa Smith
lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us

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From: "Bill or Mary Schrader" <bills@sirius.com>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: New books for 4th graders
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:21:30 CST

I have a 4th grade teacher who would like to update her fiction reading =
list to include some recent titles (in the last two or three years) that =
have characters who are African American, Asian American, Hispanic, or =
American Indian.  I have the lists people have been posting recently on =
"popular" or Newbery contenders for this year but many of those do not =
have a multiethnic cast.  Please send any suggestions directly to me and =
I will compile a list to share with the listserv.
TIA
Mary Schrader
Oakland (CA) Public Library
bills@sirius.com


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From: "Curry Rose Hoskey" <hoskey@capecod.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: folktale stumper
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:28:50 CST

Dear PUBYACkers,

Perhaps you can identify this folktale - I've had no luck here.  It's for
our local high school librarian.
 She's looking for a Russian children's story / folk tale about an old woman
who wants a new stove for her cookpot...and finally convinces her husband to
get one...but then it's so big they can't keep enough wood to keep it going,
so they end up cutting all their trees and eventually their furniture and
humble home....

Ring any bells?
You can respond to the list, or to my address: hoskey@capecod.net.
Thanks in advance!

Curry Rose Hoskey
Youth Services Librarian
Eastham Public Library
190 Samoset Rd.
Eastham MA  02642
http://www.capecod.net/~elibrary/
Opinions expressed are my own, not the library's.

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From: "Children" <children@fnsb.lib.ak.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Bee Riddle
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:35:54 CST


As one of the answerers to our bee riddle question wrote, "Is someone
kidding you?"  I guess so!  Anyway thanks to everyone who answered!  We are
bit mortified that we posted the riddle to the list when I think my 9 year
old nephew would have been a better source!
                        Thanks to the scores of people who knew this old
joke.

        Feeling more "out" of it than usual--
                    Sue Sherif
                    Youth Services Department
                     Fairbanks North Star Borough Public Library

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From: Marci Davis <marcid@multcolib.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper - "Make our country grow"
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:43:29 CST


Hi PUBYACcers -

I got the following message from one of the elementary school teachers I
work with, but I'm not familiar with the piece she's seekeing.  Does this
sound familiar to anyone??

> "When I was in the sixth grade, my entire class did a choral
> reading/reader's theatre.  The content was based on famous American and
> the Colonization of the US.  I emailed my girlfriends back home in
> Hawaii who were in my class (and they are now teachers - one in the
> exact same sixth grade room) .... we can't remember the title or the
> book our teacher used in class.

> "Part of it goes like this:
> `John Smith. There was a man.  Down in Jamestown he began to make our
> country grow.  Make our country grow.  Roger Williams.  There was a man.
> In Rhode Island he began to make our country grow. ...... etc.'  If
> memory serves me ... the reading might be titled `Make Our Country Grow'
> ... since we said it over and over again."

The teacher wants to find and use this piece with her class.  I looked on
WorldCat, Amazon, and did some general web searching, but nothing has
turned up that sounds right.  Any ideas?

Thanks for your help!

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Marci K. Davis                          Midland Regional Library
Youth Librarian                         805 SE 122nd            
Multnomah County Library                Portland, OR  97233-1107
marcid@multcolib.org                    (503)988-5734           

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