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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 11:26 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 440


    PUBYAC Digest 440

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: ADD and respect
by RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
  2) Thanks for the help!
by Janice Lyhane <janicel@bluevalley.net>
  3) RE: Summer Reading Question
by "PJ Capps" <pjcapps@leavenworth.lib.ks.us>
  4) Question from SLJ RE: Summer Reading Question
by "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
  5) Re: ADD and respect
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
  6) Re: ADD and respect
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
  7) Re: Summer Reading Question
by "Marilyn Schlansky" <reedlib@bestweb.net>
  8) Re: SRC School Visit
by Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
  9) RE: ADD and respect
by CKehoe@bettendorf.lib.ia.us
 10) Re: ADD and respect
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
 11) Re: Summer Reading Question
by Holland <hollandd@sls.lib.il.us>
 12) ADD and more
by "Cathy Norman" <csn71650@hotmail.com>
 13) Re: SRC School Visit
by "Barbara Osborn" <bosborn@triton.net>
 14) unattended children policies
by "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
 15) Pictures of children in publicity
by Schmidt <mschmidt@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 16) Re: Survivor
by "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us>
 17) Thanks to those
by CKehoe@bettendorf.lib.ia.us
 18) Re: Summer Reading Question
by "Clare Meehan" <clare329@earthlink.net>
 19) Re: Sumer Reading Requirements
by Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 20) Re: Summer Reading Question
by Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 21) Does Your Library Web Page Have Homeschool Links?
by Peter Butts <pbutts@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
 22) Early Literacy
by "Kathie Matsil" <kmatsil@hotmail.com>
 23) Are you a super model? (for young adult services)
by Patrick Jones <connectingya@yahoo.com>
 24) Re:Survivor Program
by "Mary Moody" <MMOODY@vigo.lib.in.us>
 25) Re: Summer Reading Question
by "Loralee M. Armstrong" <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
 26) Re: ADD and respect
by Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>

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From: RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: Melissa MacLeod <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: ADD and respect
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:09:12 CDT

I happen to like DK books and think kids do too.  I think many children are
learning about things they wouldn't bother reading a text filled book about
when
they pick up these books.  I don't have time or interest to read everything
there is about everything in the world, and I suspect kids don't either, so
if
there is a format that will give me basic  information in an attractive
manner,
I am more likely to pick it up and give it a look.  I want text books, but I
believe the DK format is a good one too.  A picture is worth a thousand
words
and takes less time?  :)

RoseMary Honnold
Coshocton

Melissa MacLeod wrote:

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> Original author: I hated to see you retract your statement. While your
> original email was a little heated, I was still happy to hear that I am
not
> the only one who thinks many books today cater too much to "limited
> attention spans" or "ADD" children. Most librarians I meet say how much
they
> love DK books. I'm sorry, but I hate to see nonfiction broken down to a
> photo and a caption, which I see all too much today. When I was a child my
> friends and I were not daunted by pages full of WORDS! Personally, I think
> more than half the children "diagnosed" with ADD simply spend too much
time
> in front of the television (how fast do those images flash by?). ADD is
MOST
> OF THE TIME an excuse for a lack of parenting skills and a physicians
> readiness to label, prescribe and cure the problem rather than educate the
> parent. When parents come in with their children looking for ADD books, I
> can see by the parent behavior where the problem lies. I have witnessed
only
> two children who I believed had serious problems. I do not want anyone
> emailing me with "exception" stories either, about how your child, niece,
> friend, etc. doesn't watch T.V. and has ADD, I'm not interested. When you
> were in school, did 30% of the kids in your class have behavior problems
or
> limited attention spans? How many children did you know on medication at 5
> or 8 years old because they couldn't sit still? Why did ADD become a
> "generational" problem, a "fad" disorder, only once a pharmaceutical
company
> developed drugs to treat it with?
> When I weeded my collection (which before I started had never been
weeded),
> I found many nonfiction books from 1950-1970, etc. What struck me was how
> different nonfiction for children was then. They had full pages of text!
OF
> course the books had to go, but it reminded me of books I had read as a
> child. Books with words, maybe some drawings and diagrams, but they were
to
> enhance the text, not in place of it.
> We all love to look at pictures, and I can't help admiring those great
> animal books with their lovely photos, but not every subject lends itself
to
> this format and I am sick of seeing Ancient Greece reduced to drawings
with
> arrows and captions.
> I have heard and read many opinions about the "revolution" in children's
> nonfiction literature, that children finally have books "for them." I wish
> these books would not play down to their intellect and would challenge
them
> with sustained and supported ideas rather than cartoons and photos. We had
> better stop catering to these images and hold children to higher
standards.
> Stop making excuses, because if you have limited expectations a child has
no
> reason to strive.
> I can already see the email coming back on this one, but remember, this is
> only MY opinion.

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From: Janice Lyhane <janicel@bluevalley.net>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Thanks for the help!
Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:09:50 CDT

I'd like to thank everyone for the information about their summer
storytime schedules.  I am sure it will be helpful when we are planning
our program.
Janice Lyhane


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From: "PJ Capps" <pjcapps@leavenworth.lib.ks.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:10:26 CDT

Julie

i think this is an excellent point. i know we allow everyone to join our
summer reading program, and don't require  that books read come from our
library - thus we don't even require a library card.

if he comes here, we'll be waiting with bells on!

pj capps

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org [mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of Julie Linneman
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:04 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Summer Reading Question


Speaking of kids visiting relatives, when I visit schools to promote the
summer reading program, sometimes a question they ask is, "What if you're
going to be gone over the summer?"  I tell them they can sign up before
they leave, read while they're gone, and get their prizes when they come
back, but some tell me they will be gone the whole summer (e.g., to go to
their dad's house in another state, or to relatives, etc.).  In this case,
I tell them that there are public libraries throughout the U.S. with
summer reading programs, and they can go to the nearest one to sign up.
It may be an oversimplification in some cases (i.e., if some library
systems don't allow visiting kids to participate), but I try to give them
hope.  (When they ask about going to Mexico for the summer, I have to
admit that I don't know if they do SRP there.)

So, if a kid from Wichita comes into your library wanting to sign
up for your summer reading program, you'll know why they asked!

Julie Linneman
juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us

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From: "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Question from SLJ RE: Summer Reading Question
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:11:29 CDT

Folks-- Hi from SLJ, & I have a question for everyone RE: summer reading
programs. I was a public children's librarian for many years, & I planned &
worked on many summer reading programs. Being also a tech-oriented person, I
wanted to hear your reactions to an idea I had a couple of years ago that I
think would blaze new trails in youth librarianship: Automating the Summer
Reading Program. It's about the only major service* we do in libraries
that's not currently automated.

SRPs I've been involved in have always been very paper- &
statistics-intensive. You must manage all kinds of paper gameboards, kids
lose them, forget where they are, etc. You must also have all your stats in
a row by Labor Day or so for the administration, which isn't fun if you're
dealing with compiling hours read, & prizes won, from hundreds (or
thousands) of paper sheets.

My idea, as you might have guessed already, is this: All of us children's
librarians gang up on CARL or Epixtech or one of the big vendors to develop
an SRP module that can be linked to the circ system, & keep score by library
card. The online interface would be a customizable Web site, and each
child's (or parent's) library card number would be the way to access a
child's (or family's) reading record.

Everyone signs up online, either in the library or remotely. With so many
kids spending parts of the summer away from their home libraries but having
some kind of Net access--access in another local library, if not a
relative's home PC--kids could (or parents or grandparents of little ones)
keep score, and all stats would be kept in an online database. SRP-ers could
read & play the game worldwide--or at least anywhere there's Net access.
Kids would come to the desk of their library to claim prizes with either a
printout of their hours read, or staff or volunteers could look them up on a
library's PCs. There could also be a way to make records & stats available
to schools (either individual records or "all the kids at ______ School read
_______ hours in the SRP this summer"). Of course there'd be privacy issues
& exceptions, but I'll bet these could be worked out. At the end of the
summer, all stats would be available (except of course program attendance)
without drudge work.

So what do you think? Is anyone doing this or anything like this? I want to
write a "Chat Room" column on this topic, but first I want you all to batter
me about the head with all the reasons why it would never work, please. I've
talked to several vendors about this & they have said so far that there's
been absolutely no call from the profession to automate SRPs. Why not?

Yes, it would require lots of PCs in the children's area to sign up all the
kids at the beginning of the summer, but it seems to me that most public
libraries I know are getting more & more PCs, volunteers could be used, & a
PC could be reserved for SRP use only. (Yeah, I know the eBay-ers would
scream, but why not?)

Thanks, W

*except toddler times & story times, which I hope are _never_ automated;
there, the only digital things should be the digits you use for Eensy Weensy
Spider...

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Walter Minkel * Technology Editor, School Library Journal * www.slj.com
wminkel@cahners.com * (212) 463-6721 * fax (212) 463-6689

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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: ADD and respect
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:12:02 CDT

My email was not anti-child, it was anti "playing down to children" by not
turning all their nonfiction books into pictures with captions instead of
sustained text. I have no problem dealing with children who make a mess,
however I cannot help noticing parent response and will not lie and say I do
not form opinions. I do not share them with my patrons and I give every
patron my attention in helping them to find resources, regardless of whether
or not I believe they are masking their own inabilities by falsely labeling
their child. I'm sorry you were not able to understand my email.

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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:12:34 CDT

I give every patron my attention in helping them to find resources,
regardless of whether or not I believe they are masking their own
inabilities by falsely labeling
their child. I am not intolerant of them, but I do form opinions when I see
them interact with their children. However, everyone leaves with what they
want, including a smile from me. I encourage everyone to utilize the library
and am not intolerant, just judgemental, and I never share my observations
on individuals.

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From: "Marilyn Schlansky" <reedlib@bestweb.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:12:59 CDT

We also have a weekly "raffle" during the summer.  You get one chance for
every three books checked out. This only applies to books, not videos or
audios. Prizes are things we've been saving up all year just for this.  Some
examples are brand new books someone has donated, a portable radio that was
a promotional item,  new games we have somehow accumulated, etc.  At the end
of the summer all the entries that did not win a weekly drawing are put into
a big drawing for a larger prize.   Last year it was a gorgeous and huge St.
Bernard puppet from ordering over a certain amount in books from Regent Book
company.  Everyone loves this and will take the extra book to make the
multiple of 3 needed for a chance.
Marilyn Schlansky, Reed Memorial Library, Carmel, NY
----- Original Message -----
From: <lochwouters@AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Summer Reading Question


> Although we don't require kids to use only library books for summer
> reading program, we have used a strategy that keeps the books flying off
> the shelves.
>
> Kids who check out 5 or more books when they come to the library gain an
> extra point (we treat that check-out like a "minutes read" block on their
> reading
> record by stamping it with a special stamp).  The kids are eager and the
> vast, vast majority not only check-out the books, but read them as well
> (answering the question "Do they just check 'em out and NOT read 'em?").
> This strategy has helped us maintain a hefty circ ever since we morphed
> our program from books read to minutes read, lo this many years ago!
>
> Marge L-W
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Marge Loch-Wouters | Email:  lochwouters@winnefox.org
> Menasha's Public Library        |               920.967.5166 ex 700
> Menasha, WI 54952-3191 | Fax: 920.967.5159
>                           www.menashalibrary.org
>
> "If we didn't have libraries, many people thirsty for knowledge, would
> dehydrate."  Megan Jo Tetrick, age 12, Daleville, Indiana
> _________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>

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From: Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:13:32 CDT

I don't worry about focusing on the summer reading program theme when I
visit
schools.  I talk a little bit about our SRP (this year it's Reading Road
Trip,
USA), but mainly I tell stories.  I figure this is a chance for the kids to
see
that the librarian is a nice person, maybe a fun person, and encourage them
to
come into the library, regardless of the theme of the SRP.

It is great, though, how you weave your SRP theme so centrally into your
school
visits.  The magic carpet idea sounds neat.  How about if you're traveling
around the world to find the world's best story, or world's best book?  Of
course, you won't find it, but that will just keep you traveling and
learning
and meeting and discovering...

And I agree -- we have one of the world's best jobs!

All the best,

Toni

Toni Reese
Youth Services Librarian
Sump Memorial Library
222 N. Jefferson St.
Papillion, NE 68046


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From: CKehoe@bettendorf.lib.ia.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: ADD and respect
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:14:12 CDT

Why problems such as ADD seem to be more prevalent now should not be your
focus. The fact that there are devices such as the DK books, which perhaps
get children more interested in reading, is that in which we should rejoice.
Because a child has parents with weak discipline skills, or in fact a
medical condition does not mean that we should make them immediately jump
into what we THINK they should be reading. Celebrate that they are reading
at all, and THEN guide them to more solid literature.  The truth is YES. we
have a more unfocused society; a society looking for instant gratification.
Does this mean that there should be no attempt to grab those who are
unaccustomed to putting the patience into reading for pleasure? These books
are much simpler and hopefully they will entice the reader to want to know
more and thus READ more. I believe that these are the books that could save
the books that you hold as the standard for what kids should be reading.

Furthermore, while your thesis on parenting may hold some merit, I am most
disturbed to see you say that "ADD is most of the time an excuse for a lack
of parenting skills." I am sure that as professionals who work in a library
setting (where we all strive for the truth and factual information) we would
all love to hear the true statistics of this claim.

*****************************
Crystal Kehoe
Bettendorf Public Library
2950 Learning Campus Dr
Bettendorf IA  52722
319-344-4178

Any opinions stated herein are mine only, and do not necessarily reflect the
opinions or policies of the Bettendorf Public Library.

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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: ADD and respect
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:16:25 CDT

Thanks for your reply Dawn - I am so happy you understood my email. I have
received so many replies from people insinuating I hate ADD children and
refuse them services. I am writing many "unapologies" today, as well as some
thanks. I was intrigued by your email because one of the staff members here
had the same problem with her daughter. Similarly, in the 70's, the teachers
abandoned the phoenetic approach and her daughter, now in her 20's, never
moved beyond a second grade reading level. I commend you on having the
foresight and fortitude to stick to your guns and put your child in a new
school (especially when your belief system was not the same as the
institution). I can't believe you referred to yourself as unintelligent, it
seems to me you had a brain up on the educational system! Take care, Melissa

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From: Holland <hollandd@sls.lib.il.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Summer Reading Question
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:17:03 CDT

I really like your idea of giving the kids something for checking out
books. In fact, I would like to quit asking them if they read the books
(and encouraging lying). I would like to just see them check out the
books and hope for the best.

Dorothy
Elmwood Park Public Library
Youth Services
hollandd@sls.lib.il.us


On Fri, 4 May 2001 lochwouters@AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG wrote:

> Although we don't require kids to use only library books for summer
> reading program, we have used a strategy that keeps the books flying off
> the shelves.
>
> Kids who check out 5 or more books when they come to the library gain an
> extra point (we treat that check-out like a "minutes read" block on their
> reading
> record by stamping it with a special stamp).  The kids are eager and the
> vast, vast majority not only check-out the books, but read them as well
> (answering the question "Do they just check 'em out and NOT read 'em?").
> This strategy has helped us maintain a hefty circ ever since we morphed
> our program from books read to minutes read, lo this many years ago!
>
> Marge L-W
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Marge Loch-Wouters | Email:  lochwouters@winnefox.org
> Menasha's Public Library        |               920.967.5166 ex 700
> Menasha, WI 54952-3191 | Fax: 920.967.5159
>                           www.menashalibrary.org
>
> "If we didn't have libraries, many people thirsty for knowledge, would
> dehydrate."  Megan Jo Tetrick, age 12, Daleville, Indiana
> _________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>

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From: "Cathy Norman" <csn71650@hotmail.com>
To: "PUBYAC\\: PUBlic librarians servi" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: ADD and more
Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:17:43 CDT

Whoa!  I think we need to address a larger issue here.  Tolerance.  Not =
all diseases are visible to the eye, not all disorders are stamped =
neatly in the middle of someone's forhead - Thank goodness.  Many =
children with a wide range of disorders grow into productive, =
participating, contributing adults and some day when one of them makes =
an acceptance speech for a Pulitzer or Nobel I hope he or she says "I =
want to thank the librarian at my library when I was little.  No matter =
how goofy I was or wild or crazy, she/he always took the time to find a =
quiet space and a book with a lot of pictures and let me be quiet and =
look.  And on the days when that didn't work, s/he gave me old magazines =
and scissors and said "Cut these not those." and when that didn't work =
s/he dug in the always full box of goodies s/he had and handed me a =
rubber ball and said "Go outside and throw this and not at a window =
either." But what I remember most is that s/he almost always had a few =
minutes to spend and a few words of kindness because sometimes life can' =
get pretty tough for a kid with a huge array of problems."  That's what =
I hope someone says and if they don't then they don't but I do know that =
somewhere somehow in a child's life the library must be a safe place to =
come to, where the children's librarian likes kids and doesn't judge =
them based on color, gender, attire, cleanliness or behavior or any =
other thing.  That somehow or another the library is a place that had =
room for everybody. =20
Sometimes it gets to be too much - we all need a vacation - that's when =
you look at the staff and say "I am taking this ball outside and =
throwing it and just maybe I won't break a window.  They are making me =
crazy and their parents...geez."  Then take a walk.  There is nothing =
wrong with being frustrated, crabby and in need of a break. =20
Sometimes parents bring children to the library because they are at =
their wits end, broke and don't know what else to do.  We're the answer =
place, after all.  I'm happy when they want to borrow a books instead of =
a a video.  I don't care what book it is.  A great deal of what we do is =
not on any job desription anywhere and we sure don't get paid for it.  =
We do it because we love children adn books and want to put those loves =
together.  You gotta start somewhere.  Let's be tolerant of parents, =
children and each other and throw out some other ideas on how to deal =
with those challenging patrons and prserve our patience and sanity at =
the same time.
Peace and blessings,
Cathy Norman
Youth Services Librarian
Fairport Harbor Public Library
335 Vine St.  Fairport Harbor, OH  44077
csn71650@hotmail.com
440-354-8191

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From: "Barbara Osborn" <bosborn@triton.net>
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Subject: Re: SRC School Visit
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:18:26 CDT

Marcia,
   Last year I used a large flip chart with lots of color and photographs, 1
page for each of our programs.  I did kind of a show-and-tell (5 min.) with
the pages and then handed out half-page flyers (enough for each child to the
teacher).  Planning to do this again this year (working on copying those
flyers (1300 of them).
  Good luck to you.
Barbara G. Osborn, Children's Librarian
Allegan (MI) Public Library
bosborn@triton.net
(616) 673-4625
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcia Schaffer" <schaffma@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:01 AM
Subject: SRC School Visit


> Help!!?  I am two weeks away from my first school visit to promote SRC and
> I haven't a clue what I'm gonna do.  I am used to cutting it close, but
> this is a little too close even for me!  We usually act out a book or
> story, and our state theme is 'Where in the World are You Reading?'  We
are
> visiting a different continent each week (the first week is registration)
> and have lots of great ideas planned with crafts and activities but NADA
> for this school visit.  Any suggestions on books we can use or stories?
We
> have thought about traveling around on a magic carpet trying to find
> ------- what?  Any suggestions or ideas you all might have will really
help!
> Thanks for all the great ideas I get from you guys!  I'm sure we are all
> overworked and underpaid, but what a great job, huh?!
> Smiles,
>
> Marcia  ;)
>
>

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From: "GCPL Childrens Room" <gcplcr@lilrc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: unattended children policies
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:19:05 CDT

To Rebecca, Cathy and several other people who asked me to post responses to
my question about policies - I haven't had ANY responses yet.  If anyone
reading this now has a policy they'd be willing to share, please do. I'm
particularly interested to know the minimum age for being left alone in the
library.  Thanks much!  Nancy Pirodsky, Garden City (NY) P.L.

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From: Schmidt <mschmidt@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Pictures of children in publicity
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:19:40 CDT

Has anyone had any experiences or thoughts on the placement of pictures of
child patrons on their library's website or newsletter? My director is
concerned that pictures of kids may attract pedophiles.  If you do publish
pictures with kids in them do you identify them by name?  Please respond
directly, TIA!
Mary M. Schmidt
Head of Children's Services
West Babylon Public Library
West Babylon NY

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From: "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Survivor
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Brenda,
    Your post helped a lot.  Your program is along the lines of what I want
to do.  I really liked how you "kept score".  I was just going to tally
points, but your idea is much more creative.  Thanks.

Cathy Chesher
Adrian Public Library
143 E. Maumee St., Adrian, Michigan 49221
phone 517-265-2265
fax  517-265-8847
cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us

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From: CKehoe@bettendorf.lib.ia.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Thanks to those
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I would like to thank those who sent us postcards for our reading program.
Thank you Fallon County Library and L. Frazer of South Carolina for whom I
do not have an email address. All of your support will make our program much
more special!

Thanks again,
Crystal Kehoe
Bettendorf Public Library
Bettendorf, IA

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From: "Clare Meehan" <clare329@earthlink.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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    The adult program has changed a bit over the past few years. 
Originally, patrons signed up for a certain level (5,10, or 15 books).
There was a prize corresponding to that level (such as a keychain, "fancy"
pen, or tote bag).  After reaching their goal and receiving the prize, the
patron was also entered into a drawing for one of several prizes donated by
local businesses.
    In recent summers, participants have been allowed to read to all three
levels, collecting each prize.  Everytime they come in to record (and they
can do so after each book), they get an entry into a weekly drawing.  There
is also a final drawing for everyone that made it at least to the first
prize level.
    This year the Adult dept. also started a Winter Reading Program.  By
reading a book on suggested reading lists (winners of various awards)
patrons were given additional raffle tickets.

Clare Meehan
Carol Stream Public Library
Carol Stream,IL
clare329@earthlink.net

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From: Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Sumer Reading Requirements
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:22:12 CDT

On Fri, 4 May 2001 ILefkowitz@aol.com wrote:

> "We allow children to read ANYTHING, books, comics, magazines, cereal
boxes,
> just so they read for 15 minutes a day for 30 days."
>
> I couldn't agree more.  Why limit them?  Let them read whatever they like.
> The backs of cereal boxes are pretty interesting!
>

My sole criterion is "words on paper".  When some kids wanted to count
time spent online, I told 'em to print out the web pages and read them
that way and I would count them -- and I did!

Our children's reading program has a lot of rules about what the children
must read, which I can understand -- it is a good idea to expose them to
different genres, etc.  But when they come to the YA desk and ask me about
*my* rules, I just look at them and ask, "Aren't you old enough to decide
for yourself what to read?"  And they always walk away with a big grin on
their faces!

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~  Lesley Knieriem                                                   ~
~  YA / Reference Librarian (631)  549-4411              ~
~  South Huntington Public Library fax (631) 549-6832           ~
~  Huntington Station, NY  11746        lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us   ~
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~  Nunc adeamus bibliothecam, non illam quidem multis instructam     ~
~  libris, sed exquisitis.  -- Erasmus                               ~
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From: Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Summer Reading Question
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:22:46 CDT

On Fri, 4 May 2001, Julie Linneman wrote:

> Speaking of kids visiting relatives, when I visit schools to promote the
> summer reading program, sometimes a question they ask is, "What if you're
> going to be gone over the summer?"  I tell them they can sign up before
> they leave, read while they're gone, and get their prizes when they come
> back, but some tell me they will be gone the whole summer
>
I let kids report online.  It's pretty easy to make up a form and attach
it to your web page, and I have the form sent to a free yahoo address. The
teens loved it, and it provided great opportunities for readers' advisory
as well (e.g., "I see you've been reading a lot of Fear Street Books.  If
you like horror, you might also want to check out...")
 
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~  Lesley Knieriem                                                   ~
~  YA / Reference Librarian (631)  549-4411              ~
~  South Huntington Public Library fax (631) 549-6832           ~
~  Huntington Station, NY  11746        lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us   ~
~ -----------------------------------------------------------------  ~
~  Nunc adeamus bibliothecam, non illam quidem multis instructam     ~
~  libris, sed exquisitis.  -- Erasmus                               ~
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From: Peter Butts <pbutts@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Does Your Library Web Page Have Homeschool Links?
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....if so, have your webmaster look for this link :

http://www.home-ed-press.com/

I manage the education section at the Michigan Electronic Library and one of
my
patrons discovered the link is now forwarding to a porn site---eek!

-Peter Butts,
 Education Selector & Collection Librarian
 Michigan Electronic Library


--
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Peter Butts                 *  "One man gathers what *
East Middle School          *   another man spills." *
Holland, MI 49423           **************************
pbutts@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu
www.holland.k12.mi.us/ems/
mel.org/education/

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From: "Kathie Matsil" <kmatsil@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Early Literacy
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:23:57 CDT

Dear Carol,

We at the Meriden Public Library have two programs specifically aimed at
early literacy.  We do a story hour for parents/caregivers/grandparents and
children two years old and under.  We read stories, do fingerplays and use
puppets.  We then move from our story hour section into our play area where
we have toys available for the children to play with.  Parents are able to
talk while their children interact with other children and the toys.

Our second program is "Books for Babies".  A bag containing a board book, a
variety of information from area organizations, libray card and programming
information, etc. is given to each new parent and child.  The library makes
up the bags and brings them to the hospital.  The hospital distributes them
for us. Please feel free to contact me with any questions either by email or
203 630-6347.
Good luck,
Kathie Matsil
Director of Youth Services
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From: Patrick Jones <connectingya@yahoo.com>
To: yalsa-l@ala1.ala.org
Subject: Are you a super model? (for young adult services)
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:24:24 CDT

Good morning YALSA-L and PUBYAC.

I am rewriting the Directions in Library Services for
Young Adults documents for YALSA.  This document
provides the broad philosophical framework for why we
do what we do in school and public libraries with
young adults.  I want to back up the theory, however,
with practice.  I am looking for SHORT (four to five
sentences) of successful programs, services, or
projects with young adults in school and public
libraries. In particular, I am looking for things
which support/demonstrate one (or more) of the
following "values" on which we build YA:

Respecting of unique needs
Equal access
Youth participation
Collaboration
Healthy youth development

If you would like to share, just send an email to me
(not the list) and I will consider using it. Make sure
to include WHAT you did, and WHY it worked, in
addition to your name/library.  If possible, I would
like to collect these short success stories over the
next ten days.  (Note - cutting and pasting from your
monthly, annual, or other reports is fine with me)

thanks in advance-

=====
Patrick JonesConnecting Young Adults and Libraries6914 Pillsbury, Richfield
MN 55423, 612-861-3795http://www.connectingya.com

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From: "Mary Moody" <MMOODY@vigo.lib.in.us>
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Greetings,=20
I recently did a survivor program teaching website evaluation. We had a =
good time and the children learned a lot.  The premise was could a website =
survive the rules for evaluation.  the children were them placed on teams =
that tried to decide which site was real and which site survived or was =
the real site. =20

Mary Moody
School Liaison Librarian=20
Vigo County Public Library



\0/\0/\0/ "Let everything that hath breath Praise the Lord!"

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From: "Loralee M. Armstrong" <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Summer Reading Question
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:25:33 CDT

The automatic "keeper' just told me that part or all of my reply to this
was rejected.  Since we just went to a new e-mail format, I'm not sure how
much was lost.  If anyone is interested and all of the message was lost,
please e-mail me and I'll reply again.  I hesitate to clutter up the list
with a repeat of my first answer if all but the last line went through.

Loralee Armstrong
Tacoma Public Library

"Meddle not with dragons for thou art crunchy and taste good with catsup"

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From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org>
To: Melissa MacLeod <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
Subject: Re: ADD and respect
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Date: Sun,  6 May 2001 12:26:07 CDT

Hi all,
For an interesting perspective on the "new" way of presenting
nonfiction information take a look at Eliza Dresang's Radical Change.  She
gives much food for thought on this very subject of the "DK" look in
current nonfiction publications for children. - jeri



On Wed, 2 May 2001, Melissa MacLeod wrote:

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> Original author: I hated to see you retract your statement. While your
> original email was a little heated, I was still happy to hear that I am
not
> the only one who thinks many books today cater too much to "limited
> attention spans" or "ADD" children. Most librarians I meet say how much
they
> love DK books. I'm sorry, but I hate to see nonfiction broken down to a
> photo and a caption, which I see all too much today. When I was a child my
> friends and I were not daunted by pages full of WORDS! Personally, I think
> more than half the children "diagnosed" with ADD simply spend too much
time
> in front of the television (how fast do those images flash by?). ADD is
MOST
> OF THE TIME an excuse for a lack of parenting skills and a physicians
> readiness to label, prescribe and cure the problem rather than educate the
> parent. When parents come in with their children looking for ADD books, I
> can see by the parent behavior where the problem lies. I have witnessed
only
> two children who I believed had serious problems. I do not want anyone
> emailing me with "exception" stories either, about how your child, niece,
> friend, etc. doesn't watch T.V. and has ADD, I'm not interested. When you
> were in school, did 30% of the kids in your class have behavior problems
or
> limited attention spans? How many children did you know on medication at 5
> or 8 years old because they couldn't sit still? Why did ADD become a
> "generational" problem, a "fad" disorder, only once a pharmaceutical
company
> developed drugs to treat it with?
> When I weeded my collection (which before I started had never been
weeded),
> I found many nonfiction books from 1950-1970, etc. What struck me was how
> different nonfiction for children was then. They had full pages of text!
OF
> course the books had to go, but it reminded me of books I had read as a
> child. Books with words, maybe some drawings and diagrams, but they were
to
> enhance the text, not in place of it.
> We all love to look at pictures, and I can't help admiring those great
> animal books with their lovely photos, but not every subject lends itself
to
> this format and I am sick of seeing Ancient Greece reduced to drawings
with
> arrows and captions.
> I have heard and read many opinions about the "revolution" in children's
> nonfiction literature, that children finally have books "for them." I wish
> these books would not play down to their intellect and would challenge
them
> with sustained and supported ideas rather than cartoons and photos. We had
> better stop catering to these images and hold children to higher
standards.
> Stop making excuses, because if you have limited expectations a child has
no
> reason to strive.
> I can already see the email coming back on this one, but remember, this is
> only MY opinion.



Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@gcfn.org
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio

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