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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 752
 

    PUBYAC Digest 752
 
Topics covered in this issue include:
 
  1) Re: QUICK! Fines question...
by Carol Hoke <hoke@mail.crlibrary.org>
  2) Re: reading novels first
by "Megan VanderHart" <VanDerME@ri.lincon.org>
  3) RE: Summer Reading Club
by "Hiett, Debra" <DHiett@aps1.net>
  4) Compilation:Core History Collection
by Carrie Silberman <csilberman@nysoclib.org>
  5) Re: QUICK! Fines question...
by nadine <booklover32@yahoo.com>
  6) Beginning Phonics Readers
by "Brenda Evans Childrens Librarian" <chroom@seidata.com>
  7) RE: Reading novels first
by "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
  8) reading books first
by Ellen Braby <ebraby@pen.ci.santa-monica.ca.us>
  9) Thanks, Large Wall Map
by "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
 10) Early 60's children's fiction, "shrinking children in the ant wor
by "Lukhaup, Vicki R." <VRLukhaup@GENESEE.suny.edu>
 11) Foxy Stumper answered!
by Allison Peters <apeters@jefferson.lib.co.us>
 12) re: stumper-monster who wouldn't die
by Judy Czarnecki <jczarnec@vml.lib.mi.us>
 13) Angleworms on Toast
by Susan Wizinsky <swizinsk@gfn.org>
 14) Thanks: titles - not giving up
by Ingrid Henderson <ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz>
 15) reading novels first
by "Sharon L." <sharonthelibrarian2@hotmail.com>
 
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From: Carol Hoke <hoke@mail.crlibrary.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: QUICK! Fines question...
Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:03 CDT
 

Children's fines are 10 cents per day while adult fines are 15 cents
per day.  I think that the reasons for this are that children don't
have as much money to pay and also the material value is usually less
than for adult books.
 
 
 
--
Carol Hoke
Children's Services Manager
Cedar Rapids Public Library
500 First St SE
Cedar Rapids IA  52401
319-398-5145, ext. 259
fax 319-398-0746
Hoke@mail.crlibrary.org
 
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From: "Megan VanderHart" <VanDerME@ri.lincon.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: reading novels first
Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:10 CDT
 
Just out of curiosity, and for clarification, what do you include in your
reading scope? Just fiction, or do you also read biographies, poetry and
other non-fiction as well?
 
I try to keep up with our new titles and do better at some times than at
others, but I certainly agree wholeheartedly that it's the most reliable
reader's advisory preparation. I'm glad to hear that it's a priority among
so many of you.
 
Megan E. VanderHart
Rock Island Public Library
Rock Island, IL
 
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From: "Hiett, Debra" <DHiett@aps1.net>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Summer Reading Club
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Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:16 CDT
 
Hi Irene,
 
When we had our SRP theme of fantasy a couple of yrs ago we played Folktale
Trivia, did a writing program on "fractured fairytales" and had a "scary
stories to tell in the dark" program.  We put a large castle on the wall and
had a yellow brick road leading up to it.  With each book read an elf or
whatever we used was advanced to the castle to capture something... I don't
remember what.... but you get the idea.  It was a great summer; both the
children and the staff had lots of fun!
 
Hope this helps.
Deb Hiett
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ilang@gfn.org [mailto:ilang@gfn.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:11 PM
To: Pubyac List
Subject: Summer Reading Club
 

For this year's Summer Reading Program, many of the libraries in our
area are using the Upstart theme "Catch a Dragon by the Tale" focusing
on fairytales and medieval fantasies (frogs, unicorns, dragons, knights
in shining armor and damsels in distress), along with a hint of H.
Potter & Lord of the Rings. We are, of course, looking for suggestions
for crafts, games, coloring sheets and booklists. If you have a manual
you'd be willing to share that would be tremendous!
Thanks, in advance for your help.
Irene Lang
Mideastern Michigan Library Cooperative
ilang@gfn.org
 
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From: Carrie Silberman <csilberman@nysoclib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Compilation:Core History Collection
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Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:22 CDT
 
Thanks to those of you who responded to my request for favorite history
series/titles.  I only received three responses, but they were very helpful.
Any other recommendations would still be appreciated.  Here's a summary:
 
e are a middle school and have had much success with the
following titles.  Our students seem to gravitate towards these on
a regular basis:
 
--Oxford U. Press - History of Women (exact title?)
--UXL (publisher)reference sets on slavery, civil rights,
holocaust, amer. vietnam war, american revolution.  These sets are
3-4 volumes containing almanac, primary sources docs., and
biographies.
--Also, Grolier's "American Scene" series.  They have a new one on
The Sixties which I think the students are going to eat up when
they get to their "Cold War / Vietnam" unit.  It's difficult to
find material on this era.
--Look at Oxford U. Press - they have some good sets that are
often overlooked in school libraries.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Amy Ojserkis
Media Specialist
Belhaven Avenue School
Linwood, NJ  08221
amyojserkis@linwoodschools.org
 
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These are some of my favorite authors:
Russell Freedman (especially his biographies)
Jean Fritz (also especially her biographies)
Jim Murphy (especially his books about the Civil War)
Albert Marrin
 
Good luck -
Julie Rothenfluh
Children's Services Supervisor
Nichols Library
Naperville, IL
 
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There's a series of books about the Founding Fathers
and the 1770's by Jean Fritz. These would be good for
younger kids and lower level learners.
Mary
Colorado
 
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From: nadine <booklover32@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: QUICK! Fines question...
Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:28 CDT
 
 
 
My library charges children's cards the same 10 cents per day to a max of
$2.00 as they do adult cards...that has been the case as far back as I
remember. We do have patrons that will use the kids cards when the adult
card becomes delinquent.
 
Nadine
 

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                     Nadine Lipman
                Head of Children's Services
                  Waterford Public Library
                   Waterford, CT 06385
               email:  booklover32@yahoo.com
 
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From: "Brenda Evans Childrens Librarian" <chroom@seidata.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Beginning Phonics Readers
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Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:33 CDT
 
Dear Great Minds,
I have just had a patron request very beginning phonics readers- the Moncure
books are too difficult. She wants fun books with pictures and rhyming text
that would play on the different sounds of words.  We have the Cowley books,
the Moncure books, but these are not what she is looking for. Do you have
any ideas? Thank you.  Brenda Evans, Madison-Jefferson County Public
Library, 420 West Main Street, Madison, Indiana 47250 Fax: (812)265-2744.
 
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From: "Andrea Johnson" <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Reading novels first
Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:40 CDT
 
Susan,
 
I'm with you; I'd love to be able to read every novel that we buy for
our library, but to do that (not counting multiple copies of the same
title), I'd have to read over 400 books a month.  And that's not
counting nonfiction (which is my collection development area) or picture
books (which I try to keep up with for storytime).  I read pretty
quickly, and I do read a lot (very little of which is adult fiction),
but our budget and collection size make this an impossible task.
 
I do make it a point to read the award-winners and runners-up, and as
many books as I can from "best" lists.  Since I work in a largish
children's department, I also rely on my colleagues for the scuttlebutt
on what books everyone's talking about.
 
I do think it's important to read from your collection as much as you
can; there is no better way to do reader's advisory.  However, how much
is "as much as you can" will vary a lot from person to person, job to
job, and library to library.
 
Andrea Johnson
Cook Memorial Public Library
Libertyville, IL
ajohnson@cooklib.org
 
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From: Ellen Braby <ebraby@pen.ci.santa-monica.ca.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: reading books first
Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:46 CDT
 
Sheilah,
  I think it is admirable that you read all the novels for your
library.  In our library with one main library and 3 branches, we have a
monthly collection development meeting.  Each of the youth services
librarians is responsible for reading and orally reviewing a number of
books each month--usually 5-8, most of which are novels.  Usually, they
each receive one YA book plus a number of other titles.  That forces
everyone to read some titles that they might not normally pick up, but I
feel strongly that it is important to have read any books that you
booktalk for a class or recommend to individual children.  In addition,
some of the librarians read many other titles on their own time.  For
picture books, series fiction, and a lot of non-fiction (what I call
report fodder) we send them around to the branches in boxes and allow
the librarians to inspect them on an individual basis.  That way, most
of the staff sees the new titles.  In youth services, so much of what we
do requires knowledge of the collection and that cannot always be found
by looking in the catalog.  No computer can match 10-20 years of
experience when it comes to finding the right book for the child.
 
In the days when I first started working in a branch, I did manage to
read most of the new children's fiction, but nowadays that is not
possible as I  have more managerial duties.  I also try to read adult
fiction-mostly mysteries and fantasy-and recommend that others dip into
an adult book now and then, just to get a break from children's books.
 
I think that the majority of responses indicate that most other
PUBYACCERS think that you are not going overboard, and would love to be
able to read as many of the books as you evidently do.
 
Ellen Braby
Coordinator of Youth Services
Santa Monica Public Library
 
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From: "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Thanks, Large Wall Map
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Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 14:49:52 CDT
 
I recently asked for suggestions on finding an inexpensive wall map for
our SRP. Thanks to those of you who sent suggestions. I am still working
on what I want to do. So far, I printed out a 64 page wall map from the
web site mentioned, but haven't assembled it yet. I'll let you all know
how it goes. Thanks again.
I deleted a message from Marguerite Hill that mentioned a site to
dowload "megamaps." It worked here on our high volume printer:
www.yourchildlearns.com/owlmouse.htm
Laura Gruninger, Children's Librarian
Mercer County Library System, Lawrence HQ
Lawrenceville, NJ 08648
 

Last year I used a states outline map behind my desk for our summer
reading
program.  I made a transparency of an outline map I found on the
Internet.
Then, I tacked a sheet of clear plastic (painter's drop sheet) on the
wall
and projected the transparency onto the wall, adjusting it to the size I
wanted.  It was a simple matter to trace the outline with a marking pen.
We
could add whatever we wanted either with marker or tape.  It was great.
 
Nancy Bostrom
Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library
Lewistown, MT
 
Laura,
 
How about if you get a small outline map and a big piece of butcher
paper
and use a overhead projector to trace it onto the paper?  I've done
things
like that in the past and it works great.
 
Best,
 
Toni
 
Toni Reese
Youth Services Librarian
Sump Memorial Library
Papillion, Nebraska
treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us <mailto:treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
 
Actually, our library just purchased a couple of wall maps, since our
summer
reading program has a road trip theme.
 
There is a huge black and white wall map for  11.99.
 
It was discovered in the Holcomb's catalog. (www.homcombs.com)
 
Hope this helps.
 
VVannucci
Shaker Hts Public Library
Shaker Hts., OH
 
216-991-2030
 

Laura,
 
Try contacting Dan O'Connor, who is the George Cram Sales Rep
in NJ. He may be able to work a deal for you. He works out of
Branchburg.
908-707-9545
 
Ann Job
Kinnelon Library,
Kinnelon, NJ
 

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From: "Lukhaup, Vicki R." <VRLukhaup@GENESEE.suny.edu>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Early 60's children's fiction, "shrinking children in the ant wor
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I'm looking for author and title of a children's book I read in the early
sixties about two kids who shrank somehow and lived with an ant colony for a
while.  Can someone help me find this info?
 
Thanks,
 
Vicki R. Lukhaup
Reference Librarian
Genesee Community College
VRLukhaup@genesee.edu
585-343-0055x6419
585-343-0433 Fax
 
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From: Allison Peters <apeters@jefferson.lib.co.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Foxy Stumper answered!
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Thanks to all of you who answered my stumper about the fox who goes out on a
chilly night.  The answer was Peter Spier's "A Fox Went Out On A Chilly
Night."
 
Thanks again everyone!  You have made my patron's day!
 
Allison Peters
Children's Services Librarian
Jefferson County Public Library
555 S. Allison Parkway
Lakewood, CO 80226
(720) 963-0900
apeters@jefferson.lib.co.us
 
Find us on the web at: http://jefferson.lib.co.us/
 
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From: Judy Czarnecki <jczarnec@vml.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: re: stumper-monster who wouldn't die
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Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 15:00:32 CDT
 
It looks like the book the patron was searching for is The Monster Who
Wouldn't Die and Other Strange but True Stories by Steve Otfinoski.  It was
a mass market paperback published in 1976 by Xerox Educational Publications
out of Middletown, Connecticut.
 
Many thanks to those who replied!
 
Judy Czarnecki
Youth Services Associate
Veterans Memorial Library
Chippewa River District Library System
Mt. Pleasant, Michigan
 
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From: Susan Wizinsky <swizinsk@gfn.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Angleworms on Toast
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Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 15:00:38 CDT
 

Many, many thanks for all your help in solving my stumper regarding
creamed worms.  I am sure it is Angleworms on Toast!
 
Susan
 
--
 
Susan E. Wizinsky, M.S.L.S.
Children's Librarian
Genesee District Library
Grand Blanc-McFarlen Branch
515 Perry Road
Grand Blanc, Michigan 48439
810-694-5310
 
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From: Ingrid Henderson <ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Thanks: titles - not giving up
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Hi everyone,
Thanks to Rosemary, Lesley, Sushila, Heather, Pamela, Jane, Lani, Suzanne,
Christine, Lois, Kathleen and Ed who contributed the following titles for
picture books for a 3 year old on the theme of not giving up.
Eric Carle's The Very Busy Spider and The Very Clumsy Click Beetle x2
Aesop's The Tortoise and the Hare
Watty Piper's The Little Engine that Could x7
Siomades's Itsy Bitsy Spider
Alfie Gets in First by Shirley Hughes x2
Sara and the Door by Virginia Jensen x2
 
Brave Irene
 
Pepito the Brave by Scott Beck.
 
Series of "Sesame Street Babies" concept books about five years
ago, by Anna Ross.  One of the titles was "I Did It!"
 
Ingrid
 

Ingrid Henderson
Assistant Children's and Young Persons' Librarian
Nelson Public Library
Phone:  (03) 546-0419
Email:  ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz
 

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From: "Sharon L." <sharonthelibrarian2@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: reading novels first
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Date: Fri,  3 May 2002 15:00:50 CDT
 
...Maybe I missed the question... but isn't the point of ordering by review
to learn about the material before it comes in the the library??  Thousands
of children's books are published every year and if I had to read every
single book that came in to our library I wouldn't have time to help
patrons. (The pictures books would kill me; but to think about all the
fantasies, historical fiction, and talking animals ... yikes!)
 
Now, I firmly believe that as librarians we should read books that we
recommend to patrons.  Reading materials that are in our collection is
imperative in assisting patrons in reader's advisory work.
 
I am required to read books for my job.  I enjoy reading children's
literature so it's a requirement I happily adhere to.
 
I'm just having a hard time understanding why you would read every book
before you give it to patrons.  That is why you read review journals.
 
Sharon Lawrence, MLIS
Children's Librarian
 
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