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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 848


    PUBYAC Digest 848

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Franklin
by "Claire Isaac" <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
  2) Books and Booktalks for grade 4
by Cindy Sampson-Fleet <mscf1@nsh.library.ns.ca>
  3) Heritage Trees in the Library
by EWillRead@aol.com
  4) Re: Library card exchange
by Karen Cruze <kcruze@nsls.info>
  5) Re: length of time for summer reading
by Loralee Armstrong <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
  6) storytime scheduling
by "B. Wells" <akajill2002@yahoo.com>
  7) Re: eliminating daytime storytimes
by Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
  8) Mock Caldecott Election presenter?
by "Mary Voors" <Mvoors@acpl.lib.in.us>
  9) Reader's advisory websites
by "Steven Engelfried" <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
 10) Re: length of time for summer reading
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
 11) RE: Titles for use with ESL students
by "Canosa-Albano, Jean" <JCanosa-Albano@spfldlibmus.org>
 12) Re: length of time for summer reading
by Nancy Berghoef <holnb@llcoop.org>
 13) school visit warm-ups
by susanna.holstein@kanawha.lib.wv.us
 14) SRP 2003 list
by "Bloedau, Linda" <LBloedau@cortn.org>
 15) Re: Christmas Trees in Libraries
by Karen Cruze <kcruze@nsls.info>
 16) Re: eliminating daytime storytimes
by vida lashgari <vidalashgari@yahoo.com>
 17) Re: Summer Reading
by Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
 18) RE: Titles for use with ESL students
by "Vanessa Cowie" <cowiev@mail.forsyth.public.lib.ga.us>
 19) Re: eliminating daytime storytimes
by Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
 20) Stumper--Family Mystery
by Jeanfargo@aol.com
 21) Re: Stumper
by "Callahan County Library" <callahancl@bitstreet.com>
 22) Stumper - Book re girl & new red dress
by "BALIS/PLS/SVLS Reference Center, SF Branch"
<srcsf@mindspring.com>
 23) stumper--Boy in castle
by "Amy Shelley" <AShelley@larm.lib.wy.us>
 24) Math books???
by "Williams, Sally" <WilliamsS@ci.mount-dora.fl.us>

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From: "Claire Isaac" <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Franklin
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:33:04 CDT


For stuff about Franklin try the following

www.nelvana.com/kidscanpress

www.franklinthetrutle.com

They have games, colouring sheets, stick puppets etc.

I know that in Canada you can get a Franklin costume but I don't know about
in the States.  You could try Kids Can Press.

Have fun

Claire Isaac
Children's Collections Coordinator
P.O. Box 2311 - 12th Avenue
Regina, Saskatchewan  S4P 3Z5
Phone (306) 777-6034  Fax (306) 949-7263
cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca

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From: Cindy Sampson-Fleet <mscf1@nsh.library.ns.ca>
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Subject: Books and Booktalks for grade 4
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:33:11 CDT

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Hello, all.
I am working on a committee doing a package for grade 4
orientations.  My part is to come up with a list of great books suitable
for this grade as well as some super book talks. So - could you send me a
book title you would recommend for grade 4's? It can be old or new,
fiction or nonfiction.
Thanks,  Cindy
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Cindy Sampson Fleet
Youth Librarian
Captain William Spry Public Library

Phone:    (902) 490-5796
Fax:      (902) 490-5741

mscf1@nsh.library.ns.ca

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From: EWillRead@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Heritage Trees in the Library
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:33:19 CDT

We have several times decorated a tree/trees in our elementary library.
Near
Thanksgiving, either the Third Grade teachers or I read Molly's Pilgrim by
Cohen to their students.  We discuss the meaning of pilgrims and how many of
us have families who came to America from other countries.  We give the
students clothespins (as in the story) to make a doll at home with their
family.  The label requests country, name and teacher's name (They need to
be
returned to families).  As you can imagine, some were exquisitely
constructed.  They also had the option of drawing the flag of that country
on
a 3x5 file card. This was a chance for our ESOL students to shine as they
shared their cultures.  We attached the dolls and flags with red, white, and
blue ribbons. The trees were beautiful!

On a simpler note, we have had great results with a Favorite Book Character
tree using the same clothespin idea.  We had to give up dressing up as book
characters and having programs due to lack of time.


Enjoy!
Emma Williams
River Oaks Elementary
Woodbridge, VA

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From: Karen Cruze <kcruze@nsls.info>
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:33:26 CDT

Susan:  Glad to hear your library focuses on many holidays rather than just
Christmas and that the city uses its revenue for the food pantry, a good
cause.  I still, though, don't think a city should be sponsoring decorated
trees, even if the festival is called Winter Wonderland.  Businesses fine.
Private individuals fine.  Government no.  Just basic church/state division
call. I myself love decorating for the holidays - at home.   But decorated
trees are just too much of a Christian tradition no matter how you attempt
to get around the connotation. Thank you for writing back to me.  (And by
the way, I love the idea of trading library cards - it's a nice sharing
notion.  My only objection was to the idea of decorated trees). -- Karen

At 09:58 PM 8/29/02 CDT, you wrote:
>Decorating trees is an event sponsored by our city in
>conjunction with its Winter Wonderland festival.  The
>trees line our main street.  Many businesses
>participate by "buying" a tree.  The money raised goes
>to the food pantry and holiday store.
>
>Inside the library we put up displays that focus on
>all the winter festivals and celebrations.
>
>Susan
>--- Karen Cruze <kcruze@nsls.info> wrote:
>> Sorry to bring this up, I'm not a curmudgeon really,
>> but why exactly are
>> you decorating Christmas trees?  Aren't libraries as
>> public entities
>> supposed to steer clear of advocating religious
>> holidays (as opposed to
>> collecting books that pertain to holidays)?
>> Wouldn't a better idea be to
>> make simple garlands of the cards as a decoration
>> that could be used year
>> round and is nondenominational?  In a multicultural
>> country this seems the
>> less exclusionary alternative.
>>
>
>

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From: Loralee Armstrong <larmstrong@tpl.lib.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: length of time for summer reading
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Quoting P Stack <p.stack@vlc.lib.mi.us>:

> Hi everyone,
> My boss just handed me a notice that said Saginaw libraries
> read for
> 5 or 10 hours for their summer reading. We did 25 hours over 8
> weeks.
> If you did summer reading by time can you please e-mail me
> with your
> total hours.  Thank you.  Pam
>
**********************************************************************
> Run
> Tacoma Public Library did 21 hours this summer and will be going to
25 hours next year.

Loralee Armstrong
Tacoma Public Library

"Meddle not with dragons for thou art crunchy and taste good with
catsup"

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From: "B. Wells" <akajill2002@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: storytime scheduling
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:33:41 CDT


     Thank you Thank you Thank you!  to all of you who responded to my plea
for help with storytime scheduling in the coming year.  The responses I got
are too numerous to list here.  Amazingly enough, most of them were
completely different.  The one schedule that seemed to be repeated was to
follow the school year.  I would love to follow that schedule personally,
but I know enough to realize the community wouldn't like it.  That brings me
to the second bit of advice that was repeated.  Do what best serves your
community!

       So what have we decided to do?  I believe that we will do three large
sessions with a month off between each.  Toddler time will run concurrently
with the first months of the spring and fall sessions.  I think this will
best serve the needs of the community and serve my needs for time off to
rest, rejuvenate, and do a few other things around here!

        Thank you again for all your advice.  It is wonderful to have such a
wonderful group of people to call upon.

 Brendle Wells
Youth Services Librarian
Fair Oaks Library
Sacramento Public Library


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From: Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: eliminating daytime storytimes
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:33:48 CDT


I think it's easier for families if the storytime has a consistent run.
Our once-a-month nighttime storytime was sparsely attended, but after some
years, my manager finally had the staff to offer a Saturday storytime,
which commands a respectable attendance.  "Saturday Morning Live" runs for
6 to 8 weeks, like the Toddler Lapsit sessions, and I think the families
get into the routine of going to the library for a storytime.  I know
several people commented how hard it was to remember if the Bedtime
Storytime was the 1st or 2nd Tuesday of the month.

If you still have a high circulation of picturebooks, you still have an
audience out there!  When do families come in for books?  Weekday
afternoons?  Saturday Mornings?  Do they actually sit down and read, or do
the parents come in, grab books, and leave?

A survey can let you know what they would like.  I'll bet your Rhymetime
particpants have older siblings, and since these people are already
acculturated to libraries, they'd be a good target audience.

Hope this helps,
Lin Look
Orinda Branch
Contra Costa County, CA
llook@ccclib.org

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From: "Mary Voors" <Mvoors@acpl.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Mock Caldecott Election presenter?
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:33:55 CDT

Hello!

Each year our Children's Services department offers several Mock Elections =
to tie in with the Newbery, Caldecott, and Sibert awards. We prepare =
reading lists of selected books published in 2002 for participants, and =
then we meet to discuss the books, and choose our own winner.

This year, we were hoping to offer a 45 - 60 minute program before our =
Mock Caldecott Discussion & Election at which a former member of the =
Caldecott Award Committee spoke to us about what it was REALLY like to be =
on the committee. This is where we need help...  Does anyone know of a =
former Caldecott Committee member who currently lives in or near Indiana =
who might be interested in helping out at this workshop?

Thanks so much for any leads!

Mary R. Voors
mvoors@acpl.lib.in.us
Children's Services manager
Allen County Public Library
PO Box 2270
Fort Wayne, IN  46801
260.421.1221

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From: "Steven Engelfried" <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
To: "PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
Subject: Reader's advisory websites
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I'm putting together a list of good Reader's Advisory websites for kids. =
 So far I haven't seen much that really works well.  "The Bookhive" =
(www.boohive.org/bookhive.htm), "World of Reading"
(www.worldreading.org), and Seminole County Library's "Kids' Books" =
(http://www.scpl.lib.fl.us/kids/kids_booklists.html) are the best ones I =
can find so far.  Does anyone have others to recommend?  We need not =
really author sites, but either sites that kids can use on their own to =
find good books, or sites that help librarians find books for kids. =20

 I'll compile and post.  Thanks...

Steven Engelfried, Children's Division Librarian
Beaverton City Library
12375 SW 5th Street
Beaverton, OR  97005
503-526-2599  sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us



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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
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Subject: Re: length of time for summer reading
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:34:08 CDT

For our six week program I set the goal of children reading for 6 hours a
week, which worked out to 36 total. However, I had many children below that
mark and many above - with a dozen going into the 90's or beyond. Of the 140
children who logged their time faithfully, we had nearly 3000 hours logged
out our library this summer. This was great because for every mile they read
the library gained a mile and we were able to make it across the country
from Boston to San Francisco with miles to spare (we had the american
history theme). They really loved the incentive because a week before the
program ended we were short 300 miles and the kids really did make an effort
to read more to reach our collective goal. Hope this helps, Melissa
----- Original Message -----
From: "P Stack" <p.stack@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:31 AM
Subject: length of time for summer reading


> Hi everyone,
> My boss just handed me a notice that said Saginaw libraries read for
> 5 or 10 hours for their summer reading. We did 25 hours over 8 weeks.
> If you did summer reading by time can you please e-mail me with your
> total hours.  Thank you.  Pam
> **********************************************************************
> Run
>

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From: "Canosa-Albano, Jean" <JCanosa-Albano@spfldlibmus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Titles for use with ESL students
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:34:16 CDT

Hi, try this page on the PLA website:
http://www.pla.org/resources/resources.html  "The Resources for Adult New
Readers Committee of PLA's Library Services Cluster is pleased to offer its
list of Top Titles for Adult New Readers."   The most recent list is from
2000.

Also, check with your local literacy/adult basic education center for ideas.

Peace,
Jean

Jean Canosa Albano, M.L.I.S.
jcanosa-albano@spfldlibmus.org
Head of Youth & Outreach Services
Springfield Library
220 State St
Springfield MA  01103
413-263-6800, ext 291 voice
413-263-6825 fax
413-263-6835 TTY
Springfield--The Home of Dr. Seuss http://www.catinthehat.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Baraboo Children's Dept. [mailto:barch@scls.lib.wi.us]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:34 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Titles for use with ESL students



Hello everyone,

Has anyone had a request for book titles that are on the 3-4 grade reading
level but with high school/adult interest level for ESL classes?  A patron
has requested help and we are sure someone out there has probably had this
question already!

Thanks.

Karen
Baraboo

Youth Services Staff
Baraboo Public Library
230 4th Ave., Baraboo WI  53913
Phone: 608-356-6166   FAX: 608-355-2779
barch@scls.lib.wi.us

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From: Nancy Berghoef <holnb@llcoop.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: length of time for summer reading
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:34:23 CDT

Pam-
    We have struggled with this hour thing too.
    This year for the first time we  had our SR kids set their own goal
for time spent reading.  On their chart they just filled in the total
number of hours they would read by the deadline. That way it was like a
contract with themselves.  In the past we have picked the number of hours
and even made them list all the books by title.
       We decided to really streamline our process (we had around 1800
kids from preschoolers through YAs sign up this year!) and this seems to
have worked well. Parents and caregivers appreciated not having to do so
much writing down of titles for their kids too young to write.  We also
received positive coments that kids who struggle with reading were able to
succeed too.
      The reward for reaching their goal was a paperback book of their
choice from our bin.
       In order to keep them coming back into the library throughout the
summer no matter when they met their goal, we had weekly drawings for
smaller prizes (pens, puppets, yo-yos) and also gave out a weekly sticker
to put on their chart as a reward just for being in the building.
   Oh, and as an aside, I'll mention that in addition to reading books we
also count as time spent reading:  being read to, listening to recorded
books and reading magazines.
   Nancy B.


P Stack wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> My boss just handed me a notice that said Saginaw libraries read for
> 5 or 10 hours for their summer reading. We did 25 hours over 8 weeks.
> If you did summer reading by time can you please e-mail me with your
> total hours.  Thank you.  Pam
> **********************************************************************
> Run

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From: susanna.holstein@kanawha.lib.wv.us
To: PUBYAC@PRAIRIENET.ORG
Subject: school visit warm-ups
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:34:30 CDT


I visit the 4 elementary schools in my library's service area monthly
during the school year. This past year my theme was the Dewey Decimal
system. How to make that exciting? That was a challenge, but I knew
that kids did not understand how we categorized the books on the
shelves. They needed to at least understand the basics, and I wanted to
do it in a way they would remember.

What I realized as I thought about this was that everything we
know--every bit of knowledge mankind has gained--has a place in the ten
divisions of Dewey. What a concept! So I started my visits by telling
them that, and challenging them to think of a topic, and I would tell
them where it could be found in Dewey.

Now, I don't have all the decimal places in Dewey memorized, but the
main divisions and most popular kid subjects? We all know those! They
were astounded, and it was a fun way to start. The books I pulled to
discuss were the kind that were very visual, with good read aloud
potential and funny, wild or just interesting topics. I did riddles
when we got to that section, showed them how to make a neat craft when
we did the 700's, talked about local ghost stories in the 300's, did
local alien/UFO stories in that section, etc.

This was the most successful series of visits I've done. Usually I read
some newer books, tell some stories, etc. But this got them really
excited. Often they wanted the books on the spot. I had to come back
and put reserves on for them because I still needed the books for the
rest of my visits. Lots of kids came to the library looking for the
books. I also did handouts explaining each section as we came to it,
with a list of the books I had with me so they could get them later.

If you're looking for something different, this approach might work for
you too.

Susanna Holstein
Branch Manager
Elk Valley Library
Charleston, WV


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From: "Bloedau, Linda" <LBloedau@cortn.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: SRP 2003 list
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:34:36 CDT

Good afternoon,
The list is still somewhat incomplete, but some states don't use a statewide
theme, and others haven't chosen yet.
Here's what I have gotten so far.  THANKS TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED WITH THIS.

Feel free to send me corrections, or additions.
Linda B. in east Tennessee

Alabama Books Ahoy!
Alaska Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Arizona Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Arkansas Laugh It Up @ Your Library
California It's a Jungle Out There -- Swing Into Your
Library!
Colorado ----
Connecticut ----
Delaware Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Florida Hats Off to Reading
Georgia Books Ahoy!
Hawaii ----
Idaho Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Illinois Lights! Camera! Read!
Indiana ---- (no state theme)
Iowa Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Kansas Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Kentucky ---- (probably will relate to the Lewis &
Clark expedition anniv.)
Louisiana Footloose in Louisiana's Libraries
Maine Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Maryland ----
Massachusetts Read! Think! Create @ Your Library!
Michigan Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Minnesota Explore Bright Ideas @ Your Library
(illustrations by David Small)
Mississippi Books Ahoy!
Missouri Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Montana Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Nebraska Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Nevada Laugh It Up @ Your Library
New Hampshire Reading Rocks the Granite State
New Jersey Read and Grow @ Your Library
New Mexico ----
New York Picture This! Imagine That! READ!
North Carolina Mission:  R.E.A.D
North Dakota Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Ohio Celebrate OHIO (in conjunction with their
bicentennial)
Oklahoma Dinosaurs Galore & More -- Join the Dig @
Your Library
Oregon Read! Discover! Explore!
Pennsylvania Get in the Game @ the Library
Rhode Island ---- (to be determined September 30th)
South Carolina Books Ahoy!
South Dakota Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Tennessee Dive into Reading
Texas Mission Possible:  Spy a Book!
Utah Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Vermont Summer Feast
Virginia Wolfin' Down Books @ the Library
Washington ---- (no state theme)
Washington, D.C. ----
West Virginia ----
Wisconsin Laugh It Up @ Your Library
Wyoming Laugh It Up @ Your Library

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From: Karen Cruze <kcruze@nsls.info>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Christmas Trees in Libraries
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:34:43 CDT

Dear Jennifer:  I'm forwarding a reply I gave to one other writer (expanded
a bit) on this issue for the group as a whole - Hope you don't mind.
Thanks for replying - Karen

I'm probably more sensitive to this issue because I live and work and am
from areas with large non-Christian populations (predominantly Jewish, but
also Muslim and various Asian religions).  Decorated trees may have had
pagan origins and nonreligious people may put them up, but in the end there
really is no such thing as a Hannukah bush (or a Divali bush), and putting
up trees near Christmas is a Christian ritual. (My own experience is that
nonreligious people of a Christian/European background will decorate trees,
but not Jews, Hindus, Muslims, etc.)  I think people in the dominant
culture in our society largely don't see how this is offensive - and it's
not if the people decorating are not public entities.  Inclusion of the
dominant culture's traditions by a public institution, often,
unfortunately, can imply a tacit exclusion of others.  I'm not really
interested in debating the issue, but I do think people need to think about
the whole idea of decorating for a holiday.  I think inclusion is the key
to a happier planet, and happily, there are many ways to include people at
libraries!  I think, by the way, that the library card trading idea is
great - I only object to the idea of using them as decorations aligned to a
specific holiday.
      
It's clear many of you are giving the issue thought and that in and of
itself makes me glad.  Thanks for your feedback,  Karen     

At 09:58 PM 8/29/02 CDT, you wrote:
>Just my opinion...
>I know lots of people who are not religious who still
>celebrate Christmas by decorating trees and giving
>away gifts. Christmas in general has become very
>comercial. I think the Christmas tree, although it has
>religious history, has become acceptable as a secular
>symbol too. It would be different if you had a
>nativity scene which is still recognizably connected
>with a specific religious group. After all almost all
>the holidays we decorate for have religious
>beginnings: Saint Patricks Day, Valentine's Day,
>Halloween.... That doesn't necessarily make them
>religious holidays for the general public.
>~jennifer
>Fresno Co. Library
>
>=====
>~jenniferbaker
>"If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist."
>~ Jocasta Nu (librarian from "Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones")
>
>__________________________________________________
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From: vida lashgari <vidalashgari@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: eliminating daytime storytimes
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:34:52 CDT


Hi Karen, I'm writing from the other coast so things might be different
here. I really feel passionate about providing storytimes for ages 0-3 and
preschool and here are some of my reasons.
The most important thing about storytimes is to provide a vehicle for
networking for moms, nannies, grandmoms and other caretakers.  Spending an
entire day with a child without an extented family or support can be very
stressful. Moms set up playgroups and form friendships at our storyhours.
To model pre-reading behaviors as sitting, looking at pages, listening to
words, pointing to pictures and flipping pages . I read that non-english
speaking or reading parents, when they want to look at a book with their
child, arbitrarily flip back and forth looking at interesting pictures and
then tell the story in their own words.  The children do not learn the left
to right sequence when reading a book.
Music, movement, rhyme and socialization are also important reasons for very
young children to have access to story hours.
To develop good reading and library use habits as well as positive feelings
towards libraries.
To have an opportunity to be exposed to really good children's books, not
necessarily what's the popular culture and classics like The Very Hungry
Caterpillar, which parents might not necessarily know about.
Even for older pre-schoolers storytimes are particulary helpful for learning
about taking turns talking, listening to a "teacher", sitting quietly, and
taking care of books.
I think big events are wonderful  and we need to do these too! If the
parents or caretakers are not attending storytimes, they may not know how
important they are. Attendance will be irregular because of sickness and
scheduling difficulties, but I don't think we should take that personally
(it is the nature of the beast)!
Can you tell I love storytimes and would hate to see them go?
 Karen Brown
wrote:I am so interested in the radical action taken by Roberta at Effingham
Library. She said they had decided to cut the daytime storytime in
favor of evening events. I am wondering what kind of survey might have
been done to confirm that this was the best thing to do. It seems like
fewer and fewer of our families are at home these days. Attendance our
our weekly preschool and toddler storytimes is sporadic. Our Baby and
Me Rhymetime is the best attended event. Yet our preschools and day
care centers are not able to come to the library, and our commitments in
the library seem to keep us from doing more than a once a year visit.
We do an evening storytime once a month, but I have to agree with the
person who said that families with kids in day care or preschool have
the best of intentions, but they are actually the least likely to come
to the evening or Saturday events too. They are just too busy. But how
could we stop doing the standard weekly storytime? What would make it
clear that this is the right step to take? A survey? This seems like a
good topic for discussion.

Karen Brown
brownk@ci.monterey.ca.us
Youth Services Manager
Monterey Public Library
625 Pacific Street
Monterey, CA 93940
831-646-3744


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From: Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
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Hi, I've never kept track, but my gut feeling is that
the majority of the children who drop out are those
whose parents signed them up when the child didn't
have any particular interest in the program to begin
with.

Cathryn
Webster (NH) Free Public Library

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From: "Vanessa Cowie" <cowiev@mail.forsyth.public.lib.ga.us>
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Subject: RE: Titles for use with ESL students
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Karen,
Please share your results. We get this question, too. Some of the New True
Books have filled the bill, but I would love to hear other suggestions.

Vanessa Cowie
Librarian I--Youth Services
Forsyth County Public Library
Cumming Branch
585 Dahlonega Road
Cumming, GA 30040
770-781-9840 Ext. 353
cowiev@mail.forsyth.public.lib.ga.us


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org [mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of Baraboo Children's Dept.
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:34 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Titles for use with ESL students



Hello everyone,

Has anyone had a request for book titles that are on the 3-4 grade reading
level but with high school/adult interest level for ESL classes?  A patron
has requested help and we are sure someone out there has probably had this
question already!

Thanks.

Karen
Baraboo

Youth Services Staff
Baraboo Public Library
230 4th Ave., Baraboo WI  53913
Phone: 608-356-6166   FAX: 608-355-2779
barch@scls.lib.wi.us

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From: Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: eliminating daytime storytimes
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:42:17 CDT

I surveyed our users and the preference was for
evening storytimes. Our attendance has been much
better since making this switch.  We run a storytime
only during our Summer Reading Program, though, so
perhaps parents are more likely to bring their
children in during the summer, and when they know
there's a finite number of visits they'll be making?
Cathryn
Webster (NH) Free Public Library

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From: Jeanfargo@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper--Family Mystery
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:42:24 CDT

A colleague asked me to post this--

Looking for the title of a book about a brother and a sister who go on a
train to their uncle's house on the seashore, and they get involved in a
family mystery.  Possibly New York as a setting.  The illustrations are
black
and white drawings.  Patron says it's not a new book, up to about 20-30
years
old.  Could be a beginning reader or juvenile fiction.  Kids in story are
about 9 or 10 years of age.  Linked to a famous book.  Not the Boxcar
Children or Orphan Train series.

Thanks for any help!

Jean Fargo
Youth Librarian
Fruitville Public Library
Sarasota, Florida
jeanfargo@aol.com

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From: "Callahan County Library" <callahancl@bitstreet.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
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I would like to thank everyone who replied to my stumper.  Jane Drabkin,
Jeri Kladder, Barbara Brewer, Ginny Mckee, Julie Rothenfluh and Judy Looby
all think it is SIGN OF THE BEAVER by Elizabeth Speare ("Left alone to guard
the family's wilderness home in 18th century Maine, a boy is hard-pressed to
survive until local Indians teach him their skills.").  But Bina Williams
and Jill Baurichter thinks it sounds like THE COURAGE OF SARAH NOBLE by
Alice Dagliesh (It is a girl who is left by her father with the local
Indians in New Milford CT while he goes to fetch the rest of the family. The
earlier part of the book is about Sarah and her dad's trip to New Milford
from Massachusetts. Sarah is afraid of Indians but ends up befriending the
local children.).  And Jenifer Wagner thinks it might be ZEB by Lonzo
Anderson.
Thank you.
Sonia Walker
Callahan County Library


----- Original Message -----
I have a patron that is looking for a book, she thinks she read it in  the
4th or 6th grade.  She thinks it takes place in the 1800's sometime.  She
says it's about a boy and his father who go off to build a house up in the
Northeast.  The father leaves the son after getting the house mostly built
to go get his wife and daughter.
Meanwhile, something happens to the boy, he gets hurt (she thinks), and he
meets Indians and starts living with them until his father can come  back.

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From: "BALIS/PLS/SVLS Reference Center, SF Branch" <srcsf@mindspring.com>
To: "Pubyac" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper - Book re girl & new red dress
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We're trying to help a patron identify a book which she remembers reading in
the 1940's (probably):  fiction, a thinish chapter book about a girl who
wanted a dress - probably a red dress - but she couldn't have it because her
mother didn't want her to be vain and worldly.  She instead had a grey dress
with pink glass buttons, as a substitute for a red dress.  The story was set
in the 19th century, in a small town or semi-rural area.  The family may
have been Quaker or Amish, but not necessarily.

The big event in this town was the school recital at Christmas or the end of
the school year.  The little girl and her brother were trying to memorize
poems for the school performance.  Another little girl, a couple of years
younger than the protagonist, who was eight or ten, came to live with this
family, either because she was orphaned, or temporarily without parents.
(Her father may have been at sea, and returned in the end;  or he may have
been supposed dead, but really wasn't.)  The little orphan tagged along
after the slightly older girl, not quite being a pest, but not very
entertaining either.  They spent a lot of time inside (it may have been
winter), and the heroine spent weeks trying to memorize her poem.

When the night of the school performance arrived, the protagonist had to
give up her new dress with the pink glass buttons to the little orphan
girl - who didn't have any clothes of her own to wear (maybe she was
shipwrecked?).  The heroine was not pleased, but was a good sport about it.
Then, at the school assembly, the principal asked the orphan if she had any
poem to recite, and she recited the one she had heard the older girl
memorizing, because it was the only one she knew.  Having had her poem
preempted, the older girl recited her poem from the previous year, without
complaining.  Her mother was so gratified that she decided a red dress
wouldn't make her too vain or worldly after all.

Does anyone recognize this book?  We've tried OCLC, Alibris, & Google
searches, using lots of terms, but without success.  Patron says it is not
_Thee, Hannah_.  We've also ruled out _Plain girl_, by Sorensen;  _Shoo-fly
girl_, by Lenski;  or _Winona's pony cart_, by Lovelace.

Please send any responses directly to srcsf@mindspring.com, as we are not
subscribed to the list.  And thanks for any help or suggestions!

- Catherine Sylvia

BALIS/PLS/SVLS System Reference Center, SF Branch
c/o San Francisco Public Library
100 Larkin Street, 3rd floor
San Francisco, CA  94102
tel:  (415) 552-5042     fax:  (415) 552-5067
email:  srcsf@mindspring.com

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From: "Amy Shelley" <AShelley@larm.lib.wy.us>
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Subject: stumper--Boy in castle
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:42:45 CDT

I have a patron looking for a story that involves a boy living in a =
castle. Into the castle comes a mouse, the boy doesn't like the mouse, so =
he gets a cat. Well, he doesn't like the cat so he gets a dog and so on =
until he gets an elephant who he doesn't like so he gets the mouse back. =
Does this ring a bell with anyone? Please repond to me off list.

Thanks!

Amelia J. Shelley
Manager, Children's/Young Adult Services
Laramie County Library System
2800 Central Avenue
Cheyenne, WY  82001
(307)634-3561, ext. 151
ashelley@larm.lib.wy.us

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From: "Williams, Sally" <WilliamsS@ci.mount-dora.fl.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Math books???
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:42:53 CDT

I had a math teacher (seventh grade) in last week looking for fiction =
about math, math anxiety, math applications, etc.  Her plan is to read =
to her class 15 minutes a day....I did give her three picture books, =
which were all that I could think of or that were on the shelf. =20
I gave her Math Curse by Jon Scieszka, A grain of Rice (Indian story =
about doubling) and The Librarian Who Measured the Earth.  And yes, I =
know that they are picture books....
These were all I could think of at the time.  Can the collective brain =
improve on my paltry list??

Sally Williams

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