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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:05 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 870


    PUBYAC Digest 870

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Reminder on Stumpers or Bibliography requests
by "PUBYAC Moderator" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
  2) RE: SRP 2003 list
by "Moran, Rosemary" <rmoran@tulsalibrary.org>
  3) competition
by "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>
  4) re: booktalks
by "Marge Tassione" <tassione@SLS.LIB.IL.US>
  5) senior programs
by Valerie Stern <Vstern@nileslibrary.org>
  6) student observation policy
by Frannie Savel <savelf@yahoo.com>
  7) Easy Science and Nature Readers
by Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
  8) Stumper solved: Ezra
by "Grace Lillevig" <glillevi@hcpl.net>
  9) magic egg folktale- thanks
by Natasha North <nnorth@snap.lib.ca.us>
 10) Re: Pumpkin painting
by Karen Scott <karen0428twu@yahoo.com>
 11) National Children's Book Week
by "Katherine Parker-Wright" <katw100@hotmail.com>
 12) Where to find puppets
by "Sharon Castanteen" <sharoncast48@hotmail.com>
 13) latecomers
by Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 14) Re:  Single Mother
by MzLibrary@aol.com
 15) STUMPER ANSWERED--Leaf Dog?
by Andrew Strong <ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us>
 16) Articles from Back Issues of CopyCat Magazine needed...
by "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
 17) Re: graphic novels
by "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
 18) Poem Stumper
by "Blayne Borden" <bborden@timberland.lib.wa.us>
 19) Re: Pumpkin painting
by "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
 20) LATE Survivor thanks
by "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>
 21) Clifford Party
by medwards@wepl.lib.oh.us
 22) Re: children teaching self about computers
by "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
 23) The More We Get Together?
by Stacey Boycik <stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us>
 24) STUMPER - Russian Immigrant Family
by Mary Colleli <dutchgirl58@yahoo.com>
 25) Author Appearances in MA area
by "Fayth Chamberland" <FChamberland@mln.lib.ma.us>
 26) Thanks re: Children's books on respect
by "BALIS/PLS/SVLS Reference Center, SF Branch"
<srcsf@mindspring.com>
 27) Stumper- Kiss the Goose
by "Patty Skinner" <pskinner@astoria.or.us>
 28) Stumper--Parson Pease Porridge & Peter The Churchmouse
by "Deborah Brightwell" <DBRIGHT@ci.coppell.tx.us>
 29) Kindergarten Class Visits
by Lainey Children's Librarian <mailforsilver@yahoo.com>
 30) re:Stork stumper
by Amy Blake <ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us>
 31) Re: Book talks
by Karen Lucas <kglucas@scls.lib.wi.us>
 32) Reader's Advisory Websites
by "Steven Engelfried" <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
 33) sensitive child
by "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
 34) RE: Crocodile Hunter party
by "Spargo, Amanda" <Amanda.Spargo@library.ottawa.on.ca>
 35) Re: What age is a YA?
by "M. Neiman" <mellifur@cox.net>
 36) Re: Pumpkin painting
by "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>

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From: "PUBYAC Moderator" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
To: "pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Reminder on Stumpers or Bibliography requests
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:43:05 -0600
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Reminder:  Send your answer to a Stumper or your bib contribution directly
to the e-mail address of  the person who asked for the information.  Do NOT
just hit the Reply button !  Your answer is then transmitted to the PUBYAC
listserve and will never reach the person who needs your assistance.
Check to make sure the person's name or address is in your To: field before
transmitting.

Shannon VanHemert
PUBYAC Moderator
pyowner@pallasinc.com

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From: "Moran, Rosemary" <rmoran@tulsalibrary.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: SRP 2003 list
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:00:56 CDT

Oklahoma's slogan

 has been changed to "Dig It! @ your library."  Still using a dinosaur
theme.

Rosemary Moran
Coordinator of Young Adult Services
Tulsa City-County Library
400 Civic Center
Tulsa OK 74103
(918) 596-7931
Fax:  (918) 596-7913
email:  rmoran@tulsalibrary.org

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From: "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: competition
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:03 CDT

Hi!  One of my patrons is having a problem with her children "competing",
always arguing about who goes first and things like this.  The kids are
picture book age and she was wondering if there were any titles out there
that deal with this issue of getting along and not competing?

She looked at Characters With Character but still wanted your suggestions.
Any help is appreciated.  TIA.

Richard Bryce
Sr. Children's Librarian
West Milford Township Library
973-728-2823
bryce@palsplus.org

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From: "Marge Tassione" <tassione@SLS.LIB.IL.US>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: re: booktalks
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:10 CDT


If you're going to booktalk, make sure you have read the book.  The kids =
will know if you haven't.  Besides, it's hard to be enthusiastic about =
something you haven't read.

Margaret Tassione
tassione@sls.lib.il.us

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From: Valerie Stern <Vstern@nileslibrary.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: senior programs
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:17 CDT

We present an afternoon program the second Wednesday of each month. It is
not limited to seniors, but most of the audience is 55+.
Valerie Stern -- Niles Public Library District -- Niles, Illinois

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From: Frannie Savel <savelf@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: student observation policy
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:23 CDT



Dear Collective Minds,

Do any of you have a policy about student teachers or student M.L.S.
students observing in your library?  For example, do you require the college
student to produce their valid I.D. and a syllabus proving that the
observation is a requirement?

Thank you,

Frannie


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From: Toni Reese <treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Easy Science and Nature Readers
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:31 CDT

A huge thank-you to everyone who responded to my request for titles.
The mom is going to be delighted with these ideas.

You guys are GREAT!!

Toni

Toni Reese
Youth Services Librarian
Sump Memorial Library
Papillion NE 68046
treese@monarch.papillion.ne.us

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From: "Grace Lillevig" <glillevi@hcpl.net>
To: "Pubyac \(E-mail\)" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper solved: Ezra
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:37 CDT


Thanks to everyone who wrote to say this book is Weasel by Cynthia DeFelice.

Original message:
Hi all,
I have a customer who is looking for a book and gives the following
description:

"I know it's a chapter book, about 3rd-5th grade level, fiction. It's about
a man named Ezra, who doesn't have a tongue and a child who's narrating the
story."

Thank you!
Grace
grace@hcpl.net

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From: Natasha North <nnorth@snap.lib.ca.us>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: magic egg folktale- thanks
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:43 CDT

Thank you to everyone who offered up the title "The talking eggs : a
folktale from the American South" by San Souci in response to our patron's
request for the magic egg folktale.  She's coming in to look at it and it
sounds good to her!

Natasha North

Children's Librarian
John F. Kennedy Branch
Solano County Library
707/553-5279

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From: Karen Scott <karen0428twu@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Pumpkin painting
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:49 CDT


I would recommend a poster water base paint.  Have you thought of asking
farmers in the area if they would donate say two or three each?  Say you ask
15 farmers and each donates two you have 30 pumpkins.  You could even have a
judging for the best decorated pumpkin.  Even get the librarians to all
pitch in for a pumpkin to decorate the front of the building.

Karen Scott
Lubbock,Tx

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From: "Katherine Parker-Wright" <katw100@hotmail.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: National Children's Book Week
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:01:56 CDT

Desperately Seeking Something Different:

We are looking for something different to do for NCBW and can't come up with
anything fun. Any great ideas? Please email me directly at
katw100@hotmail.com and I'll compile a list!

Thanks in advance-

Katherine Parker-Wright
Rochester Public Library
Rochester, NH



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From: "Sharon Castanteen" <sharoncast48@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Where to find puppets
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Can anyone give me a good resource for reasonably priced hand-puppets
(movable mouth) plush, animals?????

THANKS GROUP!!

Sharon Castanteen
Director of Children's Services
River Edge Public Library
675 Elm Avenue
River Edge, New Jersey 07661
201-261-1663


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From: Smith <lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: PUBYAC <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: latecomers
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:02:10 CDT

The previous post describing giving door prizes to adults who come on time
for a meeting gave me an idea.

At the start of storytime, hand out "on time" stickers to everyone who is
there.
They could be leftover Summer Reading Club stickers or from some place
like Smilemakers.

Anyone who arrives after the program has begun doesn't get one. 

(If anyone tries this, let the list know how it worked)

Lisa Smith
lsmith@suffolk.lib.ny.us

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From: MzLibrary@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re:  Single Mother
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:02:17 CDT


Many thanks for all the suggestions regarding books for a single-mother to
read to her child.  I have ordered Love is a Family by Roma Downey which was
suggested by several.  This book appeared to be unavailable through Baker
and
Taylor, by the way, but I did find it on Amazon.com.

Again, please check out Indiana's Allen County Public Library for their
excellent resource on their website : Parent's Primer, a series of booklists
on many sensitive topics. There is a 'Single Parent' list to link to:
http://www.acpl.lib.in.us/Childrens_Services/primer.html

Here are the other suggested titles:
Mommy and Me By Ourselves Again, by Judith Vigna;  Bonnie McSmithers You're
Driving Me Dithers by Sue Ann Alderson; Do I Have a Daddy? : a story about a
single-parent child with a special section for single mothers and fathers"
by
Jeanne Warren Lindsay; Mom is Single by Lena Paris; I Love My Mother by Paul
Zindel; My Mama Sings by Jeanne Whitehouse Peterson; The Best Single Mom in
the World by Mary Zisk; In My Mother's Garden by Melissa Madenski; The Mommy
Book by Todd Parr;
Milicent and the Wind by Robert Munsch; When Mama Comes Home Tonight by
Eileen Spinelli; Oh My Baby, Little One by Kathi Appelt; and Sophie's
Masterpiece by Eileen Spinelli.

Here is my original query from last week:  "I have a single parent (mother)
with a two-year old daughter.  She is looking for books which will address
the fact that there is just the 'two of them.'  The father lives in another
state and has no contact. I've checked some catalogs but haven't found just
the right book about a mom and her daughter, on their own, and would love
suggestions for her. "

Again, many thanks.  I will have lots of suggestions to give to her tomorrow
when she returns for StoryCraft this week!

Charlotte Rabbitt, Children's Librarian
Peterborough Town Library
Peterborough, New Hampshire
mzlibrary@aol.com
"A library is a most congenial place for happily-ever-aftering." ~ Karen
Hesse

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From: Andrew Strong <ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER ANSWERED--Leaf Dog?
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And the answer is: Leaf Magic by Margaret Mahy (J.M. Dent, 1984).  Thanks to
Judith Klimowicz (Cranford (NJ) Public Library) and Peggy Townshend (Yellow
Springs (OH) Community Library) for the answer.  The customer was very
happy.

Andrew Strong
Rockford (IL) Public Library
andrew@rockford.lib.il.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Strong [mailto:ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:08 AM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: STUMPER--Leaf Dog?


Customer remembers a picture book she read in a children's lit class around
1996 in which a pile of leaves turns into a dog that follows a boy and at
the end of the story, turns into a pile of leaves again.  We've checked Best
Books for Children.  Any ideas what this one might be?  Thanks!

Andrew Strong
Rockford (IL) Public Library
andrew@rockford.lib.il.us

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From: "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
To: OPLINLIST@EPICURUS.OPLIN.LIB.OH.US, PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Articles from Back Issues of CopyCat Magazine needed...
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:02:31 CDT

Hi!

I am planning some upcoming programs, and do hot have access to the
following articles in back issues of CopyCat.  If you have them and can fax
to me, I would greatly appreciate it!

Little House Adventure January/February 1996

Jan Brett's Berloiz the Bear May/June 1993

Pets Are Wonderful March/April 1986

Ladybug, Ladybug May/June 1995

The Great Cat Caper September/October 1991

Copy the Cat March/April 1988

Measuring: A Pet Project March/April 1999

Give a Hoot About Owls September/October 1992

My fax number is 419-562-7437.

Thanks again!

Barbara Scott
Children's Librarian, Bucyrus Public Library
Ohio Reading Program Manual Editor


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From: "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: graphic novels
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:02:37 CDT

You might want to subscribe to GNLIB-L@topica.com , a list serv devoted to
graphic novels and comics in libraries!  Many libraries circulate both
comics and graphic novels and the decision whether to put them in the 700's
or in a separate place of their own seems to be a matter of personal
preference.  I can't think of any cons connected with our collection, but
the pro is the kids like them!  Boys in particular will take stacks of them
to a chair or table and read quietly for an hour.  Many of us do some
reinforcing with tape in the spines or extra staples in the comics.  There
are many great graphic novels, but you might want to start with some
mainstream titles like the superheros, Simpsons,  and Star Wars to get some
fast circulation to warrant more money spent on developing the collection.
Here are a few very helpful sites to get started!
http://my.voyager.net/~sraiteri/graphicnovels.htm
http://leep.lis.uiuc.edu/publish/rebrennr/304LE/gn/index.html
http://www.rationalmagic.com/Comics/Comics.html
http://bookshelf.diamondcomics.com/

RoseMary Honnold
Coshocton Public Library
655 Main ST
Coshocton, OH 43812
740-622-0956

101+ Teen Programs That Work
Neal-Schuman Publishers
http://www.neal-schuman.com/db/6/296.html

See YA Around: a Web site for librarians who work with teens
http://www.cplrmh.com

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From: "Blayne Borden" <bborden@timberland.lib.wa.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Poem Stumper
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:02:43 CDT

Hi there!

A patron is looking for a poem that he read as a child. He thought it
was very funny and here are the lines that he remembers:

An elevator car in an elevator shaft
complained of the noise complained of the draft

there's a spring in the air cried the elevator car
said the elevator man, you are well off where you are

the elevator car paid no attention and frowned an ugly frown
and it started going up when it should have been going down...

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Blayne Borden
Lacey Timberland Library
Lacey, WA

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From: "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Pumpkin painting
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:02:49 CDT

Acrylic Craft paints work well.  You can often find them on sale in craft
stores or discount stores.  They are easy to "serve up" by squeezing a small
amount on styrofoam plates for a palette.  Quick drying and water clean up.

RoseMary Honnold
Coshocton Public Library
655 Main ST
Coshocton, OH 43812
740-622-0956

101+ Teen Programs That Work
Neal-Schuman Publishers
http://www.neal-schuman.com/db/6/296.html

See YA Around: a Web site for librarians who work with teens
http://www.cplrmh.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine L. Tyner" <tynercl@yahoo.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:33 PM
Subject: Pumpkin painting


> Hi. I'm planning a pumpkin painting/decorating program
> for the week before Halloween. Does anyone have any
> tips as far as type of paint to use, etc. I'd love to
> hear any suggestions. Money is tight, so it's already
> going to have to be B.Y.O.P. (Bring Your Own Pumpkin).
> Thanks for any help. Please reply to
> tynercl@yahoo.com.
>
> Christine
>
> =====
> Christine L. Tyner
> Betty Warmack Branch Library
> Grand Prairie, TX
> 972-237-5773
> 972-237-5779 fax
> tynercl@yahoo.com
>
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From: "Bryce, Richard" <bryce@palsplus.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: LATE Survivor thanks
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:02:57 CDT


Hi!  Apologies and many thanks for the indoor survivor games I was looking
for earlier this month.  450 unread e-mails should give you an idea of what
the last month- and next one- is like!

Melissa MacLeod sent me some great stuff but they were faxed since I
couldn't open the attachments.  Thanks Melissa!  The rest of the responses
are below from (not in that order) Cara Romeo, Bina Williams,  Linda
Peterson, Mary Gonzalez, and Lesa Keener. Many thanks to them for their
great ideas.  I got exactly what I needed:

It was a huge hit at our SRP program.  We called it Swamp Crossing.  The
YA's had to cross an alligator infested swamp.  We had three teams of six
and they were given five stones per
team to get across the swamp.  They had to figure out how to get all of
their teammate across.  They could only have one body part on a stone at a
time and when they lost their balance and a foot went into the swamp, we
tagged it with red tape and they were not allowed to use it again. If
someone fell into the swamp the entire team had to start over.  We used
12"X12" cardboard pieces painted like a stone to use.  This is a really good
team buidling exercise and they requested it many times.  Indoors you can
tape off a swamp area of at least 8 feet wide.  Outdoors, we used a
volleyball pit.  If you don't use it for this program you may want to use it
at another time.


We put slips of paper with survival needs in a hurricane. For example
bottled water and flashlights. We threw the bottles in a pile and they could
grab ten. They opened them and needed one of each type. There was 7. It was
too much of a free for all for us.


've done those with high schoolers.  They can take an hour.  Here's a
website I found.  The Nasa "Survival on the moon" exercise is one I
remember, but I couldn't find it on the NASA site.

http://www.hscar.com/reef.htm <http://www.hscar.com/reef.htm>

http://www.teleometrics.com/nasa02.htm
<http://www.teleometrics.com/nasa02.htm>

I couldn't find any "free" copies.

Woohoo! Here's one...kind of.

http://school.discovery.com/lessonplans/activities/nasalunarsurvival/
<http://school.discovery.com/lessonplans/activities/nasalunarsurvival/>

Good luck!

What about having the kids figure out what they would need in a survival
kit...People talk about having fresh water, flashlight and batteries, radio
and batteries, etc. for when the power goes out after a big storm of some
sort. They could put together their list of things to "buy" for this (and
maybe do it at home...)
They could design a board game that has scenario's such as the ones you
mention. There could be cards representing the above mentioned disaster
supplies.  Or something like the Oregon Trail cd-rom game where the player
has to decide what supplies to take along...if you choose the wrong ones,
then you have to live with that later when your oxen has a broken leg. (Also
there are those Choose Your Own Adventure books from Bantam (1980's pub
time) that might give ideas of choices to be made in a pinch.
Also, there are books of co-operative games which might be good for
instilling the idea of cooperation between people and of community at times
of crisis. The kids would get the idea that working together to solve the
problem would be better than each person for himself...
Just some early morning thoughts dashed off! Good luck!

I just did this for a Boxcar Children program since they went to the dump to
get useful items. I made a pile of "trash", wadded up newsprint, cardboard
boxes, etc. and among it I hid plastic plates, cups, pans, work gloves. We
did it like a relay race and each member had to dig through the trash to
find something useful. The interesting part was the interpretation of
useful. Some of the things I had put in as trash they figured out a use for.
Like they needed a box to store all of their items in. We also played a game
this summer where we gave each team a map of our state and they had to find
twelve items using the symbols. like a hospital, airport, state park,
etc.... Good Luck

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From: medwards@wepl.lib.oh.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Clifford Party
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:03:05 CDT

I am considering having a Clifford event for a family program in the
Spring. We would probably read a story then have stations set up for
the children and their parents. We'll have a lot of RED everywhere.  I
was wondering if anyone has held a similar program and could make
suggestions for activities, games, etc. Please respond to
medwards@wepl.lib.oh.us and I'll post a compilation. Thanks!

Melissa Edwards
Children's Librarian
Willoughby Public Library
Willoughby, Ohio

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From: "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: children teaching self about computers
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:03:12 CDT

I remember reading recently a reminder that everyone buys into the idea =
that kids know everything about computers and the internet.  Adults tell =
them that all the time, and the kids believe it.  But they don't.  They =
don't know how to search properly, they don't know how to judge a site =
when they found it. =20
We have all seen kids just type in "pioneers" or the like into the =
location box of the browser.  Both Explorer and Netscape will do a =
"search" but have you ever looked at what they are searching? What =
database the results are coming from?  In both cases they are links to =
advertisers, affiliates,etc of Microsoft or AOL/TimeWarner.
Kids do need to learn how to use the Internet - the job is convincing them =
that they don't know how to already!
We advertise specific training sessions such as Homework Help on the Net =
and aim it at the parents and the children.  The response is a little =
better that way.

Sheilah O'Connor
Toronto Public Library

>>> kgardner@and.lib.in.us 09/25/02 04:34PM >>>
Dear PUBYAC,

It seems each year during the school year, we get a trickle of people=20
who want us to train their child(ren) on the computer.  However, when=20
we have offered Internet surfing classes for children in the past, our=20
numbers in attendance were very low.

I've gotten a request again, and was wondering if anyone out there uses=20
a tutorial or another training tool.  This parent says he's coming to=20
us as the "experts."  I am by no means trying to put forth the aura of=20
being a computer expert!  I think kids get bored when I do this because=20
they seem to know everything already!

This would be for a seven-year-old girl, who the father describes=20
as "very bright."  Any suggestions on a tutorial or something similar??

TIA!

Karen C. Gardner
Children's Services
Anderson Public Library
Anderson, IN 46016
kgardner@and.lib.in.us=20
:)

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From: Stacey Boycik <stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: The More We Get Together?
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Hi everyone!

Does anyone have the sign language for the song "The More We Get
Together?" and would be willing to share their source?
TIA~ Stacey

Stacey Boycik
Assistant Children's Department Head
Wadsworth Public Library
132 Broad Street
Wadsworth, OH 44281
Phone: 330-335-1295
Fax: 330-334-6605
E-Mail: stacey.boycik@wadsworth.lib.oh.us
Web: www.wadsworth.lib.oh.us

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From: Mary Colleli <dutchgirl58@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER - Russian Immigrant Family
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:03:24 CDT


Toward the end of summer I posted this stumper, but received no response,
even with a shortened version. At the risk of being flamed (again!) for
repeat posting, but hoping that folks who were perhaps vacationing have now
returned, I again post this description (the resources I've checked include
my sister, who used to own this book, and the Columbus (OH) Metropolitan
Library), with the following info:

This is a juvenile fiction chapter book, possibly 1970's Scholastic/Arrow
Book Club, about a husband (Avram) and wife (Dorothy?) who immigrated to US
from Russia, their two daughters, a grandmother (the mom's mom), and an
Uncle Max (the mom's younger brother) who comes to join them. The story
tells about their struggles to feel at home in their new country.

Some isolated images ---

The daughters celebrate their mother's May birthday each year by making
fragile May Baskets for her and filling them with flowers.

The older daughter takes piano lessons from a Miss Michaels, and hates them.
She also has a rag doll, which figures prominently in the story.

When Uncle Max comes to stay with them, he embarrasses the older daughter
with his funny accent, strange clothes and 'foreign' behavior. Uncle Max
becomes a hero later on when he does a traditional Russian dance for her
classmates.

One day, a strange white dog wanders into the yard, and the older daughter,
in an effort to make him stay, offers him the family's pot roast dinner. The
dog refuses, leaves, and she and Uncle Max rinse the dirt and ants off,
return it to the oven, and the family has it for dinner later that evening
(Uncle Max and the daughter keep the dog incident to themselves!).

The older daugher is ill and unable to attend a piano recital rehearsal,
thus goes mistakenly to a pump organ onstage at the actual recital, which
the other students were all told to avoid at the rehearsal. Her recital is a
disaster, as she cannot remember the ending of her piece, and finally has to
just stop playing, after having repeated the piece three times. Her mother
consents to her discontinuing lessons.

Finally, the family moves, and the older daughter leaves her doll behind,
deciding she has outgrown her need for it, and thinking that perhaps it will
make their house look more welcoming to the new owners, especially if they
have a little girl.

Any guesses? All are appreciated!

Please send any and all info to: dutchgirl58@yahoo.com

Please, no flaming, even if you HAVE read this post before. I'm really
desperate to find the title of this book, and hope I won't be blamed for
trying yet again.

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From: "Fayth Chamberland" <FChamberland@mln.lib.ma.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Author Appearances in MA area
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:03:31 CDT

If you love in the New Enland/ MA area
The Concord Free Public Library located at 129 Main Street, Concord, MA will
present:
Bob Graham author/illustrator of "Let's Get a Pup!" said Kate on October 3
at 7pm

New Zealand Storyteller Tanya Robyn Batt author of A  Child's Book of
Faeries
 on October 8 at 7pm
For further information call (978) 318-3358
or check our website www.concordnet.org/library

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From: "BALIS/PLS/SVLS Reference Center, SF Branch" <srcsf@mindspring.com>
To: "Pubyac" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Thanks re: Children's books on respect
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:03:38 CDT

Thanks to Suzanne Steiger, Peggy Townshend, and Lydia Gamble for providing
really good suggestions and leads to finding books on respect.  We really
appreciate the help!

- Catherine Sylvia

BALIS/PLS/SVLS System Reference Center, SF Branch
c/o San Francisco Public Library
100 Larkin Street, 3rd floor
San Francisco, CA  94102
tel:  (415) 552-5042     fax:  (415) 552-5067
email:  srcsf@mindspring.com

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From: "Patty Skinner" <pskinner@astoria.or.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper- Kiss the Goose
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:03:45 CDT

Hello wise and wonderful PUBYACERS,

We have a patron looking for the source of a phrase found in a poem. She
believes it refers to something taken from a children's story, possibly a
fairytale. The phrase is "kiss the goose". Someone said they had heard of
"kiss the goose and mind the gander" but could not remember where she heard
it.
 Do either of these phrases ring a bell?

Patty Skinner
Astoria Public Library
Senior Library Assistant
pskinner@astoria.or.us

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From: "Deborah Brightwell" <DBRIGHT@ci.coppell.tx.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper--Parson Pease Porridge & Peter The Churchmouse
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:03:53 CDT

Friends:  Does anyone recognize this one?  A collection of short stories
with the characters:  Pearson Pease Porridge, Peter the churchmouse,
Gabriel the cat and Trumpet the dog.  I checked A-Zoo, World Cat, Best
Books and Books in Print.  Patron want the author and title(s.)  Would
be at least 20 years old.  Thanks for your help.

Debbie Brightwell
Youth Services Librarian
Coppell Public Library
Coppell, Texas

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From: Lainey Children's Librarian <mailforsilver@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Kindergarten Class Visits
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:03:59 CDT

I am having 6 Kindergarten classes come to visit my
public library within the next couple of weeks. I do
this every year, but this year we are not
incorporating "Everyone gets a library card" in with
the visit, as we usually do. I usually give a short
intro about what the library is, sing a song or two
with them, talk about caring for books, and read a
cute picture book.  I'm looking for bright, quirky, or
interesting ideas to use when I have this class visit
that might spice things up.   Please pass along any
ideas to mailforsilver@yahoo.com. Thanks!
Lainey

__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
http://sbc.yahoo.com

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From: Amy Blake <ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: re:Stork stumper
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:04:06 CDT

Dear Yacers,

The stumper was:

a patron was looking for a Dr. Seuss picture with a stork flying carrying a
baby, she had seen a picture in a newspaper a while back.


THANK YOU TO:  Ed DeButts, Jodie DePatis, Bonita Kale, Gloria Crotty, Lynne
Miller and Mie-Mie Wu!

Possible answers:  Happy Birthday to You!, Oh Baby, The Places You'll Go!,
The Cat in the Hat Beginner Book Dictionary, or a political cartoon or
advetisement from before he did children's books.

In our collection we only have "Happy Birthday to You" , but I checked B&T
for
jacket covers...I believe she will go for"Oh Baby, The Places You'll Go!"
Several storks are carrying a baby :)

You guys are the greatest!

Amy Blake
ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us


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From: Karen Lucas <kglucas@scls.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Book talks
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:04:13 CDT



Cathy Neumueller asked,  "...what exactly is a 'book talk'?
I'd love to hear of some examples."

Some of my favorite books to booktalk are non-fiction books, such as "The
Top Ten of Everything" published by Dorling Kindersly. You can ask kids to
guess the top ten answers in several categories.  I also like to use highly
visual books such as "I Spy" books by Marzollo and Wick, and "Magic Eye"
books.  I ask a volunteer to come up and try to see the image in "Magic
Eye" and I walk around the room and let kids try to find a couple of things
in the "I Spy" books.  Other good visual books are the "Look-Alike" books
by Jackson, and the "Ultimate Spot-the-Difference" books by April Wilson.

Also, I usually read a brief passage from at least one of the fiction books
I'm booktalking.
-Karen


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From: "Steven Engelfried" <sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us>
To: "PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children"
Subject: Reader's Advisory Websites
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I recently asked PUBYAC for suggestions of good Reader's Advisory web =
sites for kids.  From the recommendations I got, I made a list for our =
staff of 9 sites that look especially useful for general reader's =
advisory.  You can go to to =
http://www.geocities.com/sengelfried/CDreadersadvisory.html see the list =
of links.  Thanks to:  Susan Dailey, Leslie Johnson, Constance Sargent, =
Mary D'Eliso, Ann Perrigo, Kelly Girard, and Andrew Strong  for =
suggestions. =20

Steven Engelfried, Children's Division Librarian
Beaverton City Library
12375 SW 5th Street
Beaverton, OR  97005
503-526-2599  sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us
 =20



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From: "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: sensitive child
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:04:27 CDT

Hello all.  I have a delema I hope somewhere out there a person can help =
me with.  I visit child care centers around our county once a month.  =
There is one child who literally freaks out for the first 5-15 minutes =
of my visit because I resemble her abusive mother.  After I am there a =
while and she sees that I am there to have fun with stories and books =
(she's maybe 2 or 3) she does eventually calm down.  I think the 4 weeks =
between visits is a bit long for her to build up tolerance quickly.  I =
don't want my visit to be negative for her or the other children.  Any =
ideas?

Denise M. Pulgino Stout
Youth Services Outreach Librarian
Chester County Library
610-280-2672
dpstout@ccls.org
Why do dragons have long tails?  They can't remember short stories!
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.  Inside of a dog, it's =
too dark to read."  Groucho Marx

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From: "Spargo, Amanda" <Amanda.Spargo@library.ottawa.on.ca>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Crocodile Hunter party
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:04:33 CDT

Hi Linda,

I am new to this listserv and would love to hear what you did for your Junie
B. Jones program.

Cheers,
Amanda

Amanda Spargo
Children's Services
Ottawa Public Library
Ruth  E. Dickinson Branch
100 Malvern Drive
Nepean, ON   K2J 2G5
(613) 825-3508
amanda.spargo@library.ottawa.on.ca


-----Original Message-----
From: laanders@bellsouth.net [mailto:laanders@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:33 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Crocodile Hunter party


A co-worker who does school-age programming would like to know if anyone on
this list has done a crocodile hunter party.

We did our Junie B. Jones program Saturday.  It was a great success, due in
large part to all of the great ideas from this listserv.  Thanks so much for
your help.

Linda Anderson, Nashville

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From: "M. Neiman" <mellifur@cox.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: What age is a YA?
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:04:40 CDT

At 11:11 PM 9/23/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I thought the original post would appear with this comment. It didn't
>and of course I deleted it. I was commenting on the post that asked
>about differences of opinion between departments concerning what is
>appropriate for YAs. One, in particular, refusing to order books she
>deemed "inappropriate."
>
>g

Well, some books ARE inappropriate for certain age groups. You wouldn't buy
TROPIC OF CAPRICORN for your teen room, would you? Or BLOOD AND CHOCOLATE
for an elementary school library? Now, whether those age groups are allowed
to check out those books if they find them in the adult or YA area
(respectively), that's another story. Or if someone refused to buy those
books for the *library* (not a certain area in the library) because they
are "inappropriate", that too is another story.


M. Neiman
neiman@glasct.org
Welles-Turner Memorial Library
Glastonbury, CT
http://www.wtmlib.com

The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my organization.

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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Pumpkin painting
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 19:04:48 CDT

Please post the replies you get. I am planning a fall festival and want to
have pumpkin decorating so that the children can either go the Halloween
route or just be creative with glitter etc..
Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine L. Tyner" <tynercl@yahoo.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Pumpkin painting


> Hi. I'm planning a pumpkin painting/decorating program
> for the week before Halloween. Does anyone have any
> tips as far as type of paint to use, etc. I'd love to
> hear any suggestions. Money is tight, so it's already
> going to have to be B.Y.O.P. (Bring Your Own Pumpkin).
> Thanks for any help. Please reply to
> tynercl@yahoo.com.
>
> Christine
>
> =====
> Christine L. Tyner
> Betty Warmack Branch Library
> Grand Prairie, TX
> 972-237-5773
> 972-237-5779 fax
> tynercl@yahoo.com
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
> http://sbc.yahoo.com
>

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