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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 878


    PUBYAC Digest 878

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Teacher's Newsletters
by "Mary Pritting" <mpritting@email.uplnj.org>
  2) Re: Picture Book Database
by "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
  3) Re: Abusive parents
by "kczarnec" <kczarnec@illinoisalumni.org>
  4) Re: Abusive parents
by Eric Norton <enorton@scls.lib.wi.us>
  5) Apologies
by "Clare Meehan" <clare329@earthlink.net>
  6) STUMPER
by <dscinta@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
  7) Stumper!
by Erin Helmrich <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
  8) Stumper Worms
by Gaewynne Hood <gaewynneh@ashburtondc.govt.nz>
  9) Hungry Bunny Stumper solved
by Selma Levi <slevi@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
 10) re: Crafts for Spanish Programs
by Amy Blake <ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us>
 11) FW: Literature Question
by "Grace Greene" <grace.greene@dol.state.vt.us>
 12) Stumper
by lcole <lcole@du.edu>
 13) Re: Poems about Libraries
by "linda allen" <lindaallen@hotmail.com>
 14) Spirit of Grandparent in Nature Biblist
by LEESA <LEESA@mail.selco.lib.mn.us>

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From: "Mary Pritting" <mpritting@email.uplnj.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Teacher's Newsletters
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:07:02 CDT

Dear Pubyackers:
I am interested in producing a newsletter for the teachers of our town.  I
would like to do three a year and include information of special interest to
teachers.  Does anyone in this group do such a newsletter, either
electronically or in-print?  I would really appreciate seeing a copy of your
newsletter.  If you could fax it to me, 908-851-4671, or send it by snail
mail, Union Public Library, 1980 Morris Ave, Union, NJ 07083-3578.  Thanks
in advance for any help you can give me.
Sincerely,
Mary Pritting
Head of Children's Services
Union Public Library
mpritting@uplnj.org

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From: "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
To: <CPIEPER@cml.lib.oh.us>, <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Picture Book Database
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:07:09 CDT

oh my. Don't they teach Boolean strategies in library school any more?
Simply put, it is the way of searching where you can include modifiers.  I =
looking for wolves AND Bears   or Leopards NOT mountain lions
House OR Home   It makes the search much more effective.

Sheilah O'C
Toronto Public Library
>>> CPIEPER@cml.lib.oh.us 10/02/02 10:30PM >>>
Dear Dale,=20
Thank you so very much.  It looks wonderful, but what is "boolean"?
Carol

>>> bethtarr@yahoo.com 09/30/02 01:57PM >>>
This might have already been posted, but I just ran
across it by accident.

There's a Children's Picture Book Database available
online from Miami University (Ohio).  It could be
helpful (especially the boolean search) for picture
book stumpers.

The URL is http://www.lib.muohio.edu/pictbks/=20


--Beth Tarr
Los Angeles Public Library

"They're confiscating my books."
"Giles, we need those books."
"Believe me, I tried to tell that to the nice man with the big gun."
~Giles and Buffy, in "Gingerbread"

__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
http://sbc.yahoo.com=20

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From: "kczarnec" <kczarnec@illinoisalumni.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Abusive parents
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:07:15 CDT

I think I've read this question in Dear Abby before, and if I remember from
her advice, it was something like approaching the parent with "It sounds
like you've had a very long day. . .and try to sympathize with the parent
but at the same time, make them aware of what they are saying to their
child.
I work at a women and children's homeless shelter and the verbal abuse
occurs often there. We have consequences when they choose to engage in that
kind of behavior. If your library has some kind of policy on the kind of
environment or abusive behavior or what not-maybe you could frame it in
terms of "The library's expectations are. . ." Of course the parent(s) might
react angrily no matter how nice and appropriate you say something-but even
if she doesn't let on-you may have made her think twice about it.


Kelly Czarnecki
Young Adult Librarian
Bloomington Public Library
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Wanda Jones" <wjones98@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Date:  Wed,  2 Oct 2002 21:29:20 CDT

>How do you respond to parents who verbally abuse thier children. I'm
>checking the list-serv and I just heard a mother make a very cruel and
>unkind statement to her 3 year old.
>
>Thanks
>
>
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From: Eric Norton <enorton@scls.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Abusive parents
Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:07:21 CDT


At 09:29 PM 10/2/02 -0500, you wrote:

>How do you respond to parents who verbally abuse thier children. I'm
>checking the list-serv and I just heard a mother make a very cruel and
>unkind statement to her 3 year old.

We've talked about this at our library.  What we've come up with is simply
to apply our general policies governing appropriate library behavior to
eveyone.  A parent spanking a child is certainly creating a disturbance if
not breaking a law.  Verbal abuse might be trickier but, again, could be
covered by a general sort of anti-disturbance rule.  You may check with the
appropriate agency in your area to find out more about child abuse (what it
is, how to report it if necessary, ways that might diffuse a situation,
etc.).  I set up a workshop for our annual public library conference here
in Wisconsin but scheduling conflicts prevented me from attending otherwise
I could offer you a more detailed perspective.  I guess the fear I have
that is shared by many (and which does help to perpetuate abuse) is that if
I intervene clumsily it will only serve to further anger the parent who may
then take it out on the child in private.  It's definitely a difficult
question without an easy answer.



Eric Norton
Head of Children's Services
McMillan Memorial Library
Wisconsin Rapids WI 54494
715-423-1040
enorton@scls.lib.wi.us

"Very senior librarians...once they have proved themselves worthy by
performing some valiant act of librarianship, are accepted into a secret
order and are taught the raw arts of survival beyond the Shelves We Know."
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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From: "Clare Meehan" <clare329@earthlink.net>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Apologies
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:12:45 CDT

My past few postings have not had subject headings.  I was sure my last one
(about Book Buddies) included the heading.  I'll try to do better.  Thanks
for your patience.

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From: <dscinta@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER
Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:12:51 CDT

Collective brain -
A patron came in looking for a book about 2 sisters that had a fight and
decided to divide their room in half using a chalk line.  Ring any bells?

TIA

Diane Scinta
Cold Spring Harbor Library
dscinta@suffolk.lib.ny.us

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From: Erin Helmrich <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper!
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:12:58 CDT

Dear Collective Brain:

Patron came in today with a good one:
Patron remembers reading this book about 30+ years ago - feels that it was
a "fairy tale" but may just be an original fantasy.  She remembers:
2 girls go into a house - there is a silver ball somewhere in the room -
one girl gets caught opening a door that she shouldn't and her hand turns
green (?) - then she is thrown into a pit.

Ring any bells?  TIA!

Erin

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Erin V. Helmrich, M.L.S.
Youth/Teen Services Librarian
Royal Oak Public Library
222 East 11 Mile Rd. 
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
PHONE: 248.246.3734
FAX:   248.246.3705
EMAIL: helmrich@tln.org  
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From: Gaewynne Hood <gaewynneh@ashburtondc.govt.nz>
To: "Pubyac (E-mail)" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper Worms
Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:13:05 CDT

A huge thank-you to everyone who responded to my request for titles on
worms. The teacher is very happy with all of these suggestions.

You are all wonderfull!!  Thanks so much.

Gaewynne Hood

Ashburton Public Library

New Zealand

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From: Selma Levi <slevi@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Hungry Bunny Stumper solved
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:13:12 CDT

Just to let you know that Kathy Burnsed solved the mystery of the
hamburger eating bunny...Dick Gackenback's Mother Rabbit's Son Tom! Thanks
for your quick thinking, Kathy. Selma Levi

Selma K. Levi
slevi@epfl2.epflbalto.org
voice # 410-396-5402


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From: Amy Blake <ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: re: Crafts for Spanish Programs
Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:13:18 CDT

Collective Minds,

My apologies...
It seems I deleted the message for the person looking for crafts to do in
bilingual/spanish programs. 

My suggestion to them is:
>From ALA:  25 Latino Craft Projects by Diana Borrego and Ana-Elba Pavon
ISBN 0838908330  $30.00 

It appears to cover a great deal: programs & actitivies, projects tied to
literature, crafts for preschool-afterschool-families, and food ideas.

Hope this helps.

Amy Blake
ablake@kcpl.lib.in.us

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From: "Grace Greene" <grace.greene@dol.state.vt.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: FW: Literature Question
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:13:24 CDT

Hello, great brains:  Can you help us with this stumper? It is not OWLS IN
THE FAMILY.

Patron remembers reading a series of books, probably written
in the 1950's or 1960's, for young readers. The setting is
the French Canadian countryside and he believes one of the
titles is:  "Adventure of the snowy owl."

Thanks so much.

Grace Worcester Greene
Children's Services Consultant
Vermont Department of Libraries
109 State Street
Montpelier, VT 05609
802-828-3261
email: grace.greene@dol.state.vt.us

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From: lcole <lcole@du.edu>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:13:31 CDT

Hi, I'm hoping someone can help with this stumper.

A patron is looking for a book with the following information.
A little girl loses her father.
The whole family has "emerald eyes".
The child is mysteriously given a cat who appears in a tree in the woods and
also has emerald eyes.
The child is ot able to do anything well since the death of her father.
The book may be titled "The Gift".
The cat may be named "Angel".
The book is rather short.

Please email me directly is you have ideas.
Thanks,
Lisa Cole
Arapahoe Library District
Littleton, Colorado
lcole@ald.lib.co.us

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From: "linda allen" <lindaallen@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Poems about Libraries
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:13:38 CDT

One of my favorites is Overdues by Shel Silverstein in A Light in the Attic.
The illustration that goes with it is great also.
Linda Allen
Monroe Public Library, Monroe WA


>From: "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
><murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: "Child Lit (post)" <CHILD_LIT@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU>,  PUBYAC
><pubyac@prairienet.org>
>Subject: Poems about Libraries
>Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:35:33 CDT
>
>Hello all, and excuse the cross posting.  I am looking for a poem to
>read aloud to kids about libraries or library cards?  Something short
>and sweet, or rather, not too sweet, but funny....  I'm not happy with
>what I have stumbled across so far, and I am drawing a blank about any
>others.  Any replies posted asap would be greatly appreciated!
>-Jendy Murphy




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From: LEESA <LEESA@mail.selco.lib.mn.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Spirit of Grandparent in Nature Biblist
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Date: Thu,  3 Oct 2002 14:13:44 CDT

Thank you to everyone who responded to my request for books
featuring grandparents nurturing a love for nature in their
grandchildren.
Our patron was thrilled!

Here is the list of titles you suggested :

Fox Song by Jospeh Bruchac
Blow Away Soon by Betsy James
Music From the Sky by Denise Gillard
A Sunday with Grandpa by Philippe Dupasquier
Annie and the Old One by Miska Miles
Dreamcatcher by Audrey Osofsky
Did you hear the Wind Sing Your Name? by Sandra De Coteau Orie
Dreams of Looking Up : How One Family Discovers the Key to Their
People's Strength by Cindy Goff
Eagle Feather: An Honour by Ferguson Plain
Grandmother's Dreamcatcher by Becky R McCain
Powwow Summer: A family celebrates the circle of Life by Marcie R.
Rendon
Byrd Baylor's books
Hug the Earth - a Tickle Tune Typhoon recording - featuring "Oh Cedar
Tree" by Joseph Hillaire
Shelterwood by Susan Hand Shetterly
The Biggest Fish in the Lake by Margaret Carney
Morning on the Lake by Jan B. Waboose
Where Does the Sky End, Grandpa by Martha Alexander
Sky Sisters by Jan Bourdeau Waboose
The Worry Stone by Marianna Dengler
Crow Moon, Worm Moon by James Skofield
Quiet by Peter Parnall
Bluebird Summer by Deborah Hopkinson
Grandad's Prayers of the Earth by Douglas Wood
Last Leaf First Snowflake to Fall by Leo Yerxa
Why the Possum's Tail is Bare and other North American Indian Nature
Tales collected by James E. Connolly
Keepers of the Earth: Native American Stories and Environmental
Activities for Children by Michael J Caduto
Raven: A Trickster Tale from the Pacific Northwest by Gerald McDermott
The Legend of Scarface: A Blackfeet Indian Tale by Robert SanSouci

Thanks again :-)
Leesa Wisdorf
Northfield Public Library
Northfield  MN  55057

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