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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:52 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1016
PUBYAC Digest 1016
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Family Storytime
by Mary Lou Boucouvalas <ml@graves.lib.me.us>
2) Stumper
by "Rob Reid" <reid@ifls.lib.wi.us>
3) Re: Vibe magazine opinions
by Rollie Welch <welchro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
4) Stumper...2nd try
by Nadine <read2kdz@yahoo.com>
5) Re: Goodbye Song
by "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
6) Creepy Internet Users
by "deborah campbell" <deborah_campbell@hotmail.com>
7) Re: Mardi Gras Help
by "Carol Mueller" <aramkids@hotmail.com>
8) Re: Mardi Gras Help
by "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
9) Stumper
by "Cathy Henderson" <cathyh@frontiernet.net>
10) Long compilation of nontraditional gender roles
by Suzanne Klein <SKlein@EBPL.org>
11) Re: (Fwd) Re: Newbery and Caldecott winners
by Lorie O'Donnell <Lodonnell@midyork.org>
12) The Wish discussion questions
by "Rita Peterson" <rpeterson@ci.camas.wa.us>
13) March Winds
by "Patricia Chaput" <pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
14) Re: Vibe magazine opinions
by "Olivia Spicer" <ospicer@loudoun.gov>
15) Re: kids who don't read--so now what?
by Cassie Wilson <cwilson2@woh.rr.com>
16) Re: Newbery and Caldecott winners
by nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
17) Reading signs (behavior and otherwise)
by Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
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From: Mary Lou Boucouvalas <ml@graves.lib.me.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Family Storytime
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I agree with Bonita's comments about grouping together. Although it does
make
it a bit harder on the librarian to come up with things that will span that
0-5
age, we try to make it a "family event" and I would hate to have
someone not
come with their children because they could not find a babysitter for their
4
year-old. Most of my experience has been 0-5 usually no older than that
and
some of the older kids enjoy being able to blurt out things they know. The
pitfall would be having too many at one storytime so maybe spanning them out
a
few times a week or day even? Hope this helps reinforce Bonita's comments,
April.
Mary Boucouvalas @ Graves Library in Kennebunkport, Maine
Bonita Kale wrote:
> April Mazza writes:
> Currently we have no baby storytimes (but constantly
> get asked about it). We register our toddlers (age 2) but the
preschool
> (ages 3-4) are drop in. We are thinking of doing something where we
> include ages 0-5, parents participate (or at least stay in the room!) and
> is drop in, once a week (or more if needed). We thought of calling it
> just plain "Storytime" or "Family Storytime" (although
I feel that's a
> bit misleading).
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there does or has done a program like this
> (all inclusive, ages 0-5) and what the pitfalls and pleasures are/were.
> And also, what do/did you call it?
>
> ********************************************
>
> We have a Family Storytime, drop-in, that is for all ages. In fact,
though,
> not too many kids over five ever come anyway, so limiting it wouldn't be
> helpful. It's aimed at the younger set, and we do tell that to
parents.
> It's great to have something we can suggest to the people who didn't make
it
> into the age-specific storytimes, or people who have two children of
> different ages that they want to bring to the same program.
>
> Bonita
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From: "Rob Reid" <reid@ifls.lib.wi.us>
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Subject: Stumper
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Posting this stumper for a librarian in Ontario:
I wondered if you could help with a family mystery. My husband recalls a
story that was read to him when he was little that had the following
characters...a googlety ugly, a roaring snerk and a piggy mossum. We've
been searching and asking for ages and no one seems to know what the name of
the book was. Hope you can help.
Please respond directly to me:
Rob Reid
Youth Services/Special Needs Coordinator
Indianhead Federated Library System
1538 Truax Blvd, Eau Claire, WI 54703
715-839-5082, ext. 14
Fax: 715-839-5151
reid@ifls.lib.wi.us
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From: Rollie Welch <welchro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Vibe magazine opinions
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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:50:15 CST
Hello....I read your email request about Vibe magazine. We here at Warren
which is a city of 50,000 with a large African-American population
subscripe to Vibe. We have it because it is one of the three magazines
that covers the hiphop culture (other two being XXL and The Source which
we felt were more controversial with language and racial issues) One
issue each year of Vibe is labeled "The Sex Issue" which has lots of
articles about sex but does not seem to contain graphic illustrations.
But we did chart articles and the majority of them deal with hiphop music
so we kept the magazine when it was challenged about being in the teen
area. The patron was more concerned about ads in the magazine rather than
article content. Hope this helps.
Rollie Welch
Teen/Reference Librarian
Warren-Trumbull Co. Public Library
Warren, OH 44483
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From: Nadine <read2kdz@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper...2nd try
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:50:24 CST
Hi again... I haven't had any responses to this except for a request to
share the title when I get it!! So...I will try again...I can't believe I
have stumped the experts!!!
Nadine
Nadine <read2kdz@yahoo.com>
wrote:From: Nadine
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:40:00 CST
Hi Yaccers...
A patron came in looking for a story he read to his children about 30 years
ago: it is a picture book and he said that the main thought running
throughout the story was an old Hungarian saying: Where you left it, you
will find it!
He said it isn't much, but I said I know where I might get an answer!!
Please respond to me directly at... read2kdz@yahoo.com
Thanks, Nadine
****************************************************************
Nadine Lipman
Head of Children's Services
Waterford Public Library
49 Rope Ferry Rd.
Waterford, CT 06385
email: read2kdz@yahoo.com
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From: "Jennifer Murphy, Head of the Children's Library"
<murphyj@uhls.lib.ny.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Goodbye Song
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The one I use is the simplest yet!
To the tune of "London Bridge"
Now it's time to say goodbye
say goodbye, say goodbye.
Now it's time to say goodbye.
We'll see you all next time!
-Jendy Murphy
Suzanne wrote:
> I need the help of the collective brain. I am planning a six-week
session
> of Baby and Me and cannot find a good-bye song that suits my needs.
The
> lap-sit program is for babies birth to 24 months. If you have a great
song
> that has worked for you, please e-mail me the words at
> library_lady2003@yahoo.com.
Thanks!
>
> Suzanne Kirk
> Children's Services
> Henry County Public Library
> 172 Eminence Terrace
> Eminence KY 40019
> Phone 502-845-5682
> Fax 502-845-4807
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From: "deborah campbell" <deborah_campbell@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Creepy Internet Users
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Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:50:40 CST
Hello out there --
Have any of you had problems with single older men using the Internet
stations in your YS area -- you know the type? The ones that give you the
creeps, but you never catch them doing anything overt so you can call
security?
We have such a person who refuses to use the Internet computers on the adult
side because he had an altercation with another patron some time ago. He
freely throws racial and sexist slurs at the staff and other patrons and
appears to pay too-close-for-comfort attention to children in our area. We
don't want to step on his civil liberties even though we all feel very
uncomfortable whenever he shows up. Do any of you have policies dealing
with this type of situation? And do any of you have policies forbidding
individuals over a certain age (say 10 or 12) from using the restrooms in
your children's area?
This is one of those sticky situations we are struggling with and we're
curious how other libraries have handled this. If you respond directly to
me, please do so to the email address below.
Thanks for your help!
Deborah Campbell
Youth Services Coordinator
Loveland Public Library (CO)
campbd@ci.loveland.co.us
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From: "Carol Mueller" <aramkids@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Mardi Gras Help
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Decorating masks with bright sparkly things and Mardi Gras feathers went
over really well with ages 3-10 for me.
>From: "Wanda Jones" <wjones98@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: Mardi Gras Help
>Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:42:56 CST
>
>Greetings great brain,
>
>I'm planning a Mardi Gras program for children 5-9. Does anyone
>(particularly from Nawhlins!!) have any ideas or advice for such an event?
>
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From: "RoseMary Honnold" <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
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Subject: Re: Mardi Gras Help
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Mardi gras masks are fun to make. Uses up leftover craft items, too.
Feathers, glitter, sequins, beads, shiny paper... the glitzier the better.
RoseMary Honnold
Coshocton Public Library
655 Main ST
Coshocton, OH 43812
740-622-0956
honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us
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Subject: Mardi Gras Help
> Greetings great brain,
>
> I'm planning a Mardi Gras program for children 5-9. Does anyone
> (particularly from Nawhlins!!) have any ideas or advice for such an event?
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From: "Cathy Henderson" <cathyh@frontiernet.net>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:51:06 CST
Hi everyone,
I have a patron looking for what she thinks is a chapter book (similar =
to Beverly Cleary) where the main characters are girl witches. There is =
a tiny man (size of a thumb?) that eats coffee grounds......
Ring any bells?=20
Thanks in advance
Cathy Henderson=20
Children's Librarian=20
Seymour Library=20
Brockport, NY 14420
cathyh@frontiernet.net=20
"Enthusiasm finds the opportunities,=20
and energy makes the most of them"
Henry S Haskins =20
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From: Suzanne Klein <SKlein@EBPL.org>
To: Suzanne Klein <SKlein@EBPL.org>, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Long compilation of nontraditional gender roles
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Hello, wonderful Pubyac Pals --
Thanks so much to everyone who replied to my stumper (original posted
below)
on books featuring nontraditional gender roles. The teacher was so
grateful
when I handed her a big clump of printouts from all of your responses!
Here's a compilation of all the ideas I received from fellow
Pubyaccers:
You might want to check out our booklist on Non-traditional Gender
Roles at:
http://www.acpl.lib.in.us/Childrens_Services/gender.html
<http://www.acpl.lib.in.us/Childrens_Services/gender.html>
Hope this helps!
Mary
Mary R. Voors
mvoors@acpl.lib.in.us
Children's Services manager
Allen County Public Library
900 Webster
Fort Wayne, IN 46802
Fire Fire said Mrs. McGuire by Martin is one of my favorites=20
Linda Peterson=20
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library=20
125 South Franklin=20
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424=20
Phone: (812)384-4125=20
Fax: (812)384-0820=20
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us
<mailto:lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
=20
Hi Suzanne~=20
I am sending you a copy of a booklist I have called "Alternate Sex =
Roles."
Hope it helps. If you cannot open the attachment, let me know.
ALTERNATE SEX ROLES
in picture book format
=20
JUVENILE EASY BOOKS:
Asbjornsen, Peter. THE MAN WHO KEPT HOUSE. (1992)
Barber, Barbara. ALLIE=E2=80=99S BASKETBALL DREAM. (1996)
Benjamin, Cynthia. I AM A DOCTOR. (1994)
Benjamin, Cynthia. I AM A FIREFIGHTER. (1995)
Benjamin, Cynthia. I AM A FOREST RANGER. (1995)
Benjamin, Cynthia. I AM A PILOT. (1994)
Benjamin, Cynthia. I AM A POLICE OFFICER. (1995)
Benjamin, Cynthia. I AM AN ASTRONAUT. (1996)
Cole, Babette. SUPERMOO! (1992)
Crew, Gary. BRIGHT STAR. (1997)
Cristaldi, Kathryn. BASEBALL BALLERINA. (BEGINNER, SAPL, 1992)
Enderle, Judith Ross. NELL NUGGEST & THE COW CAPER. (1996)
Ernst, Lisa C. LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD. (1995)
Floca, Brian. FIVE TRUCKS. (1999)
Gershator, Phillis. TINY & BIGMAN. (SAPL, 1999)
Gibbons, Faye. MAMA AND ME AND THE MODEL T. (1999)
Gilchrist, Jan. INDIGO AND MOONLIGHT GOLD. (SAPL, 1993)
Gilliland, Judith. STEAMBOAT! THE STORY OF CAPTAIN BLANCHE LEATHERS. =
(2000)
Glassman, Peter. MY WORKING MOM. (1994)
Greenwood, Pamela. I FOUND MOUSE. (SAPL, 1994)
Hallinan, P. K. WHEN I GROW UP. (1995)
Hazen, Barbara. MOMMY=E2=80=99S OFFICE. (SAPL, 1992)
Hearne, Betsy. SEVEN BRAVE WOMEN. (SAPL, 1997)
Henkes, Kevin. LILLY=E2=80=99S PURPLE PLASTIC PURSE. (1996)
Hoffman, Mary. HENRY=E2=80=99S BABY. (1993)
Howard, Elizabeth. VIRGIE GOES TO SCHOOL WITH US BOYS. (2000)
Howe, James. HORACE AND MORRIS BUT MOSTLY DOLORES. (1999)
Isaacs, Anne. SWAMP ANGEL. (1994)
Joosse, Barbara. I LOVE YOU THE PURPLEST. (SAPL, 1996)
Judes, Marie-Odile. MAX, THE STUBBORN LITTLE WOLF. (2001)
Kirk, David. MISS SPIDER=E2=80=99S NEW CAR. (1997)
Kirk, David. MISS SPIDER=E2=80=99S TEA PARTY. (1994)
Kroll, Virginia. A CARP FOR KIMIKO. (SAPL, 1993)
GIRL,
YOU=E2=80=99RE AMAZING! (2001)
Kunhardt, Edith. I=E2=80=99M GOING TO BE A FIREFIGHTER. (1995)
Lakin, Pat. DAD AND ME IN THE MORNING. (SAPL, 1994)
Lattimore, Deborah. FRIDA MARIA: A STORY OF THE OLD SOUTHWEST. (1994)
Lowell, Susan. LITTLE RED COWBOY HAT. (1997)
Lyon, George E. MAMA IS A MINER. (1994)
Maccarone, Grace. PIZZA PARTY. (Beginner, 1994)
Mahy, Margaret. A BUSY DAY FOR A GOOD GRANDMOTHER. (SAPL, 1993)
Martin, Bill, Jr. LITTLE GRANNY QUARTERBACK. (2001)
SWISH! (1997)
McAllister, Angela. WIND GARDEN. (SAPL, 1994)
McCully, Emily A. BEAUTIFUL WARRIOR: THE LEGEND OF THE NUN=E2=80=99S =
KUNG FU. (1998)
LITTLE KIT, OR, THE INDUSTRIOUS FLEA CIRCUS GIRL. (SAPL, 1995)
MIRETTE ON THE HIGH WIRE. (JAWARD, 1992)
THE PIRATE QUEEN. (SAPL, 1995)
Medearis, Angela. THE ADVENTURES OF SUGAR AND JUNIOR. (1995)
Miller, Margaret. GUESS WHO? (1994)
Mills, Claudia. GUS AND GRANDPA AND THE CHRISTMAS COOKIES. (Beginner, =
1997)
Morgan-Vanroyen, Mary. WILD ROSIE. (1999)
Morris, Ann. THE DADDY BOOK. (SAPL, 1996)
THE MOMMY
BOOK. (1996)
TOOLS. (1992)
WORK. (1998)
Moss, Marissa. TRUE HEART. (1999)
Murphy, Stuart. ANIMALS ON BOARD. (1998)
Numeroff, Laura. WHAT GRANDMAS DO BEST/WHAT GRANDPAS DO BEST. (2000)
Numeroff, Laura. WHAT MOMMIES DO BEST/WHAT DADDIES DO BEST. (1998)
O=E2=80=99Book, Irene. MAYBE MY BABY. (1998)
Oram, Hiawyn. RECKLESS RUBY. (1992)
Perkins, Lynne R. CLOUDS FOR DINNER. (1997)
Pomerantz, Charlotte. SERENA KATZ. (SAPL, 1992)
Pulver, Robin. AXLE ANNIE. (1999)
Rappaport, Doreen. DIRT ON THEIR SKIRTS. (2000)
Rockwell, Anne. CAREER DAY. (2000)
Root, Phyllis. OLD RED ROCKING CHAIR. (1992)
Ryan, Pam M. AMELIA AND ELEANOR GO FOR A RIDE. (1999)
Ryder, Joanne. MY FATHER=E2=80=99S HANDS. (SAPL, 1994)
Sadler, Marilyn. P. J. FUNNYBUNNY CAMPS OUT. (BEGINNER, SAPL, 1993)
Schreier, Joshua. HANK=E2=80=99S WORK. (1993)
Shaw, Eve. GRANDMOTHER=E2=80=99S ALPHABET. (SAPL, ABC/123, 1997)
Spinelli, Eileen. BOY CAN HE DANCE. (1993)
NIGHT SHIFT
DADDY. (2000)
Spohn, Kate. CHICK=E2=80=99S DADDY. (1998)
Stamm, Claus. THREE STRONG WOMEN. (1990)
Standiford, Natalie. ASTRONAUTS ARE SLEEPING. (1996)
Stanley, Diane. RUMPELSTILTSKIN=E2=80=99S DAUGHTER. (1997)
Thomassie, Tynia. FELICIANA FEYDRA LEROUX. (SAPL, 1995)
Thomassie, Tynia. FELICIANA MEETS D=E2=80=99LOUP GAROU. (1998)
U=E2=80=99Ren, Andrea. PUGDOG. (2001)
Waddell, Martin. BIG BIG SEA. (1994)
Waggoner, Karen. THE LEMONADE BABYSITTER. (1992)
OUR GRANNY. (SAPL, 1993)
Wright, Catherine. STEAMBOAT ANNIE AND THE THOUSAND-POUND CATFISH. =
(2001)
WHEN I HAVE A
LITTLE GIRL; WHEN I HAVE A LITTLE BOY. (2000)
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JUVENILE FICTION:
Yolen, Jane. BALLAD OF THE PIRATE QUEENS. (SAPL, 1995)
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JUVENILE NON-FICTION:
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Duvall, Jill. MEET RORY HOHENSTEIN, A PROFESSIONAL DANCER. (J792.8, =
SAPL,
1997)
Duvall, Jill. WHO KEEPS THE WATER CLEAN? MS. SCHINDLER. (J628.1, SAPL, =
1997)
Ernst, Lisa. LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD: A NEWFANGLED PRAIRIE TALE. =
(J398.21,
SAPL, 1995)
Flanagan, Alice. MS. MURPHY FIGHTS FIRES. (J628.92, 1997)
Hodges, Margaret. JOAN OF ARC: THE LILY MAID. (JB, 1999)
Horenstein, Henry. MY MOM=E2=80=99S A VET. (J636.08, 1994)
I WANT TO BE A PILOT. (J629.13 PILOT, 1999)
Kellogg, Steven. SALLY ANN THUNDER ANN WHIRLWIND CROCKETT. (J398.2, =
1995)
Kimmel, Eric. EASY WORK! (J398.2, 1998)
Kunstadter, Maria. WOMEN WORKING A TO Z. (J331.702, 1994)
Martin, Bill, Jr. FIRE! FIRE! SAID MRS. MCGUIRE. (J398.8, 1996)
Maynard, Christopher. JOBS PEOPLE DO. (1997)
Maze, Stephanie. I WANT TO BE A FIREFIGHTER. (1999)
McCully, Emily A. THE BALLOT BOX BATTLE. (JB, 1996)=20
Pedersen, Marika. MOMMY WORKS, DADDY WORKS. (J331.702, 2000)
San Souci, Robert. BRAVE MARGARET: AN IRISH ADVENTURE. (J398.2, 1999)
San Souci, Robert. FA MULAN: THE STORY OF A WOMAN WARRIOR. (J398.2, =
1998)
San Souci, Robert. A WEAVE OF WORDS. (J398.2, 1998)
Sierra, Judy. TASTY BABY BELLY BUTTONS. (J398.2, 1999)
Stanley, Diane. JOAN OF ARC. (JB, 1998)
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=20
BOOKS MORE THAN 10 YEARS OLD:
Adoff, Arnold. FLAMBOYAN. (1988)
Alda, Arlene. SONYA=E2=80=99S MOMMY WORKS. (SAPL, 1982)
Alexander, Martha. MARTY MCGEE=E2=80=99S SPACE LAB, NO GIRLS ALLOWED. =
(SAPL, 1981)
Alexander, Sue. NADIA THE WILLFUL. (SAPL, 1983)
Aliki. THE TWO OF THEM. (1979)
Asch, Frank. JUST LIKE DADDY. (1981)
Bang, Molly. TEN, NINE, EIGHT. (1983, 1996=E2=80=94board)
Barton, Byron. I WANT TO BE AN ASTRONAUT. (SAPL, 1988)
Bauer, Caroline. MY MOM TRAVELS A LOT. (1981)
Berenstain, Stan. THE BERENSTAIN BEARS: NO GIRLS ALLOWED. (SAPL, 1986)
Blackwood, Mary. DEREK THE KNITTING DINOSAUR. (SAPL, 1990)
Blaine, Marge. THE TERRIBLE THING THAT HAPPENED AT OUR HOUSE. (SAPL, =
1975)
Blegvad, Lenore. ANNA BANANA AND ME. (SAPL, 1985)
Browne, Anthony. PIGGYBOOK. (SAPL, 1986)
Caines, Jeannette. JUST US WOMEN. (1984)
Carlson, Nancy. LOUANNE PIG IN MAKING THE TEAM. (1985)
Clifton, Lucille. EVERETT ANDERSON=E2=80=99S FRIEND. (1976)
Cole, Babette. PRINCE CINDERS. (1988)
Cole, Babette. PRINCESS SMARTYPANTS. (1987)
DePaola, Tomie. CHARLIE NEEDS A CLOAK. (SAPL, 1974)
DePaola, Tomie. OLIVER BUTTON IS A SISSY. (1979)
Douglass, Barbara. GOOD AS NEW. (SAPL, 1982)
Ernst, Lisa C. SAM JOHNSON AND THE BLUE RIBBON QUILT. (1983)
Grifalconi, Ann. FLYAWAY GIRL. (1991)
Grossman, Patricia. THE NIGHT ONES. (1991)
Hague, Kathleen. THE MAN WHO KEPT HOUSE. (SAPL, 1981)
Gerstein, Mordicai. MOUNTAINS OF TIBET. (1987)
Gilman, Phoebe. GRANDMA AND THE PIRATES. (SAPL, 1990)
Hilton, Nette. DIRTY DAVE. (1990)
LONG RED
SCARF. (SAPL, 1987)
Hilton, Nette. THE LONG RED SCARF. (SAPL, 1987)
Hines, Anna G. MY DADDY MAKES THE BEST SPAGHETTI. (1986)
Hoban, Russell. BEST FRIENDS FOR FRANCES. (SAPL, 1969)
Hoffman, Mary. AMAZING GRACE. (1991)
Isadora, Rachel. MAX. (1976)
NO, AGATHA! (1980)
Kimmel, Eric. CHARLIE DRIVES A STAGE. (1989)
Klein, Norma. GIRLS CAN BE ANYTHING. (SAPL, 1973)
Lane, Megan. SOMETHING TO CROW ABOUT. (1990)
Lasker, Joe. MOTHERS CAN DO ANYTHING. (SAPL, 1972)
Leaf, Munro. THE STORY OF FERDINAND. (1977)
Little, Jean. JESS WAS THE BRAVE ONE. (1991)
Mahy, Margaret. THE MAN WHOSE MOTHER WAS A PIRATE. (SAPL, 1986)
Martin, Bill Jr. WHITE DYNAMITE AND CURLY KIDD. (1986)
Merriam, Eve. DADDIES AT WORK. (1989)
MOMMIES AT WORK. (1989)
Miller, M. L. DIZZY FROM FOOLS. (1985)
Miller, Margaret. WHO USES THIS? (1990)
WHOSE HAT? (1988)
WHOSE SHOE? (1991)
Mitchell, Joyce. MY MOMMY MAKES MONEY. (1984)
Munsch, Robert. ANGELA=E2=80=99S AIRPLANE. (SAPL, 1988)
PAPER BAG PRINCESS. (1980)
Ormerod, Jan. SUNSHINE. (SAPL, 1981)
Pfanner, Louise. LOUISE BUILDS A BOAT. (1990)
Pinkwater, Daniel. AUNT LULU. (SAPL, 1988)
Reimold, Mary. MY MOM IS A RUNNER. (1987)
Rockwell, Harlow. MY NURSERY SCHOOL. (SAPL, 1976)
Steig, William. BRAVE IRENE. (1986)
Steptoe, John. MUFARO=E2=80=99S BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER. (1987)
Van Woerkom, Dorothy. THE QUEEN WHO COULDN=E2=80=99T BAKE GINGERBREAD. =
(SAPL, 1975)
Waber, Bernard. IRA SLEEPS OVER. (1972)
Wells, Rosemary. SHY CHARLES. (1988)
Wild, Margaret. MR. NICK=E2=80=99S KNITTING. (SAPL, 1988)
Williams, Vera. A CHAIR FOR MY MOTHER. (1982)
CHERRIES AND CHERRY PITS. (1986)
Winthrop, Elizabeth. TOUGH EDDIE. (SAPL, 1985)
Zolotow, Charlotte. WILLIAM=E2=80=99S DOLL. (SMALL, 1972)
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Beverly Bixler=20
bbixler@sanantonio.gov=20
San Antonio Public Library, TX=20
=20
=20
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Try this pathfinder on our children's web site.
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http://infozone.imcpl.org/kids_path_gender.htm
<http://infozone.imcpl.org/kids_path_gender.htm>=20
=20
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Nancy Mobley
Librarian
Riley Room for Children
Interim Central Library
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=20
Hi Suzanne-=20
Just worked on this question (and several other times)for preschool =
teachers
that need certification- this is one their topics. Try OH's Dayton &=20
Montegomery Co. P.L. homepage- teachers' links- bibliography is of =
recent=20
books. One of their requirements is reading and examining books that =
are no=20
older than 10 years old. Also try www.bwibooks.com
- they have a =
detailed=20
bibliography that covers both picture and fiction titles. Another =
website=20
that was useful,but titles were rather dated is:=20
http://fuji.acpl.lib.in.us/childrens_services/gender.html
<http://fuji.acpl.lib.in.us/childrens_services/gender.html>
=20
Hope this information will help you!=20
Was in the same boat,=20
Mary=20
Suzanne,=20
We created a list for our ECE students who come in every year looking=20
for books in this category. Though it's hardly complete, and only =
lists=20
Picture Books, you can find the list at=20
http://home.dayton.lib.oh.us/kids/gender.html
<http://home.dayton.lib.oh.us/kids/gender.html>
=20
We are getting ready to roll out a new web site, and I plan on updating =
this list some time soon, so it would be great if you posted your=20
responses!=20
Tonya Cross
Reference Assistant=20
Dayton Metro Library=20
Dayton, OH=20
chi_tonya@dayton.lib.oh.us=20
=20
Non-Traditional Gender Roles in Picture Books (from Dayton & Montgomery =
Co.
PL)
Barber, Barbara E. ALLIE'S
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aeq-5399&index=3Ddefault>
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BASKETBALL DREAM
Lee & Low Books, New York: 1996.=20
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Berenstain, Stan. THE
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ETTI
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BERENSTAIN BEARS
PLAY BALL Scholastic, Inc., New York: 1998.=20
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Bourgeois, Paulette POLICE
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+afc-5424&index=3Ddefault>
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OFFICERS Kids
Can Press, Buffalo, NY: 1999.=20
Bourgeois, Paulette POSTAL
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+afc-5427&index=3Ddefault>
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WORKERS Kids
Can Press, Buffalo, NY: 1999.=20
Crew, Gary BRIGHT
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aev-5778&index=3Ddefault>
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STAR
Kane/Miller Book Publishers, Brooklyn, NY: 1997.=20
Cristaldi, Kathryn BASEBALL
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+ady-1626&index=3Ddefault>
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BALLERINA
Random House, New York: 1992.=20
Duvall, Jill MEET
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aes-9741&index=3Ddefault>
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RORY HOHENSTEIN,
A PROFESSIONAL DANCER Children's Press, New York: 1997.=20
Duvall, Jill WHO
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aes-9746&index=3Ddefault>
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KEEPS THE WATER
CLEAN? MS. SCHINDLER! Children's Press, New York: 1997.=20
Flanagan, Alice A
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aew-4588&index=3Ddefault>
DAY =
IN COURT
WITH MRS. TRINH Children's Press, New York: 1997.=20
Flanagan, Alice MS.
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aew-4574&index=3Ddefault>
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MURPHY FIGHTS
FIRES Children's Press, New York: 1997.=20
Flanagan, Alice OFFICER
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+afa-3498&index=3Ddefault>
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BROWN KEEPS
NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE Children's Press, New York: 1998.=20
Gibbons, Faye MAMA
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aff-3119&index=3Ddefault>
AND =
ME AND THE
MODEL-T Morrow Junior Books, New York: 1999.=20
Grossman, Patricia THE
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+adt-2953&index=3Ddefault>
=
NIGHT ONES
Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, San Diego: 1991.=20
Hallinan, P.K. WHEN
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aem-3207&index=3Ddefault>
I =
GROW UP
Ideals Children's Books, 1995.=20
Hazen, Barbara Shook MOMMY'S
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+adz-1019&index=3Ddefault>
=
OFFICE
Atheneum, New York: 1992.=20
Henkes, Kevin LILLY'S
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aeq-1347&index=3Ddefault>
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PURPLE PLASTIC
PURSE Greenwillow Books, New York: 1996.=20
Hoffman, Mary AMAZING
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+adz-8784&index=3Ddefault>
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GRACE Dial
Books for Young Readers, New York: 1991.=20
Hoffman, Mary HENRY'S
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aed-9236&index=3Ddefault>
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BABY Dorling
Kindersley, London: 1993.=20
Hopkinson, Deborah MARIA'S
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+afe-2914&index=3Ddefault>
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COMET Atheneum
Books for Young Readers, New York: 1999.=20
Kimmel, Eric A. EASY
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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WORK!: AN OLD
TALE Holiday House, New York: 1998.=20
Lyon, George Ella MAMA
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aeg-9657&index=3Ddefault>
IS =
A MINER
Orchard Books, New York: 1994.=20
Mahy, Margaret A
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aec-5278&index=3Ddefault>
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BUSY DAY FOR A
GOOD GRANDMOTHER M. K. McElderry Books, New York: 1993.=20
Martin, Bill SWISH!
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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H. Holt, New
York: 1997.=20
Numeroff, Laura WHAT
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aex-7516&index=3Ddefault>
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MOMMIES DO
BEST/WHAT DADDIES DO BEST Simon & Schuster Books for Young Readers, =
New
York: 1998.=20
Perkins, Lynne Rae CLOUDS
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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FOR =
DINNER
Greenwillow Books, New York: 1997.=20
Pulver, Robin AXLE
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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ANNIE Dial
Books for Young Readers, New York: 1999.=20
Reiser, Lynn EARTHDANCE
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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Greenwillow
Books, New York: 1999.=20
Reynolds, Peter H. SYDNEY'S
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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STAR Simon &
Schuster Books for Young Readers: New York, 2001.=20
Rubin, Howie. DADS
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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. =
Howie Haus
Books, Portland: 2000.=20
Scamell, Ragnhild TOBY'S
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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DOLL'S HOUSE
Levinson Books, London: 1998.=20
Shaw, Eve GRANDMOTHER'S
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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ALPHABET
Pfeifer-Hamilton, Duluth, Minn.: 1997.=20
Vigna, Judith I
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
NG_KEY=3DGuest&servers=3D1home&query=3Dln+aes-5055&index=3Ddefault>
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LIVE WITH DADDY
A. Whitman & Co., Morton Grove, IL: 1997.=20
Wyeth, Sharon Dennis TOMBOY
<http://webster.dayton.lib.oh.us/cgibin/tramp2.exe/do_ccl_search/guest?S=
ETTI
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TROUBLE Random
House, New York: 1998.=20
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DMCPL Selected <http://home.dayton.lib.oh.us/kids/booklists.html>
Children's Bibliographies=20
Teacher's Page <http://home.dayton.lib.oh.us/kids/Teachers.html>
=20
DMCPL Home Page <http://www.dayton.lib.oh.us>
=20
=20
This list was updated on February 21, 2002 by T. Cross. Do you have =
any
comments <mailto:chi_desk@dayton.lib.oh.us>
?=20
Hi, Suzanne,=20
The first title that came to my mind was The=20
Storytelling Princess by Rafe Martin. If I think=20
of others, I'll let you know. I look forward with=20
interest to the compilation post!=20
Rebecca=20
-----Original Message-----=20
From: Suzanne Klein=20
Sent: Thu 1/23/2003 3:41 PM=20
To: pubyac@prairienet.org=20
Cc:=20
Subject: Stumper -- nontraditional gender roles
Hi!=20
A teacher in town is seeking books for grades K through 8 for a =
curriculum
on nontraditional gender roles. She is looking for quality =
picture/fiction
books that feature characters in roles that don't follow typical =
gender
stereotypes. I've given her some ideas and some (old) book lists we =
have,
but do any of you have any recent books in mind? I have a strange =
feeling
you do . . .
=20
Thanks for your help! If there is interest, I'll compile responses and =
post
to the listserv.
-- Suzanne
=20
Suzanne M. Klein
Youth Services Librarian
East Brunswick Public Library
2 Jean Walling Civic Center
East Brunswick NJ 08816
Phone: 732 390 6789
Fax: 732 390 6796
E-mail: sklein@ebpl.org
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From: Lorie O'Donnell <Lodonnell@midyork.org>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: Newbery and Caldecott winners
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And let's not forget that many of the Caldecott books are quality reading
for the younger set. Even though it is primarily the illustration that is
the criteria, it must be a good story with which to work.
Lorie
On 2/6/03 3:55 PM, "nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us"
<nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us>
wrote:
> It would have been nice if more books for younger readers were chosen, but
I
> don't believe the criteria for this award "requires" any specific
age
level
> be represented. Perhaps there were just more good books for older
readers
> than there were for younger ones. Wouldn't it water down the prestige
of
> the award if lesser books were chosen simply because of the age level?
>
> And it seems these days that some children do read higher level books more
> readily than when I was a kid. Remember those parents of preschoolers
who
> are bragging that they are reading chapter books?
>
> Nancy Koebel
> Birchard Public Library of Sandusky County
> nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "C.A. LeBlanc" <claire_oldsmar@hotmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2003 7:03 pm
> Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: Newbery and Caldecott winners
>
>>> From:
Linette Ivanovitch <linette@missoula.lib.mt.us>
>>> To:
pubyac@prairienet.org
>>> Subject: Re: Newbery and
Caldecott winners
>>> Date sent: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:15:14
-0800
>>>
>>> I think we do a disservice to the hardworking committees when we
bash
>>> their decisions. After all, the winners and honor books must
be
>>> unanimous committee decisions. I am certain that many, if not
most,
>>> of the committee members, had to give up on a personal favorite
>> in the
>>> interest of concensus.
>>
>> I don't think anyone is "bashing" the efforts of the
committee
>> members, I'm
>> sure we all can appreciate what a tough job they have. One
>> purpose of this
>> list is to discuss YA/juvenile literature, and that includes
>> discussingawards for such literature in my opinion. I for one am
>> very interested in
>> others' opinions about the award winners or not and don't wish to
>> see this
>> discussion stifled.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>
Lorie J. O'Donnell
Children's Librarian
Jervis Public Library
Rome, NY 13440
lodonnell@midyork.org
--
If you didn't want them to think, you shouldn't have given them library
cards.
Elliot Gould as Harry Bailey in "Getting Straight"
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From: "Rita Peterson" <rpeterson@ci.camas.wa.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: The Wish discussion questions
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We're discussing The Wish by Gail Carson Levine for our Family/'Tweens
(grades 4-6) book group next week. Does anyone have any suggestions for
an opening activity such as having each person tell what their wish
would be?
Also, what questions would you ask pertaining to the book? I've check
my usual sources like Multnomah County discussion guides and google
search without any luck.
Thanks for your help,
Rita Peterson
Youth Services Librarian
Camas Public Library
840 NW 10th Ave.
Camas, WA 98607
360 834-4692 ext. 412
rpeterson@ci.camas.wa.us
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From: "Patricia Chaput" <pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: March Winds
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Hi everyone,
I'll be doing a program for childrens ages 7 and up on "March Winds".
Does =
anyone have any good stories, song or games I can use.
Thanks in advance
Patricia Chaput
pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca=20
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From: "Olivia Spicer" <ospicer@loudoun.gov>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Vibe magazine opinions
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:51:50 CST
Vibe is a magazine based on the culture of hip hop. It may be geared =
toward urban youth, but I can guarantee a lot of your suburban youth are =
listening to hip hop. Get it, by all means, if it'll get them reading, =
and if there's a problem with covers, etc. put it in the adult collection. =
If teens want to read it they'll find it there. Also, we have
Electronic =
Gaming Monthly in our teen section and those covers can get pretty =
provocative, even if they are animated. Most Vibe covers are of hip hop =
artists. I have also seen many females reading Vibe. Of course, this
is =
all just my own opinion. =20
Olivia I. Spicer
Youth Services Librarian
Loudoun County Public Library
Rust Library
380 Old Waterford Rd.
Leesburg, VA 20176
Tel: 703-771-5624
ospicer@loudoun.gov
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From: Cassie Wilson <cwilson2@woh.rr.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: kids who don't read--so now what?
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As long as you have Danielle Steel and her ilk for the "adults," how
can
you say nay to Spongebob and PowerPuff Girls for the kids who at least
have an excuse for showing bad taste?
Cassie wilson
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From: nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Newbery and Caldecott winners
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:52:07 CST
As long as good books are chosen, why complain? Already, if you check the
list of past winners, almost no books for older children are chosen for the
Caldecott (not too many chapter books or young adult books are illustrated).
Conversely, not too many picture books are chosen for the Newberry as
picture books' text doesn't warrant winning that award.
Nancy Koebel
Birchard Public Library of Sandusky County
nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
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From: Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Reading signs (behavior and otherwise)
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Ironically, our ref staff was discussing how to get subsitutes to read the
directions on signing up people for Internet help and wordprocessing (said
directions are posted on the top page of the sign-up clipboard, not to
mention on the sign-up sheets themselves)
Lin Look
Orinda Branch
Contra Costa County, CA
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