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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1064


    PUBYAC Digest 1064

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) children's program & sequencing
by Lorraine Getty <lgetty1969@yahoo.com>
  2) Re: Summer Reading Program "Reading Verification"
by "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
  3) Family Storytime Answers
by Susan Ungham <sungham@elyria.lib.oh.us>
  4) prizes for a talent show
by "Sue Baldwin" <sbaldwin@nngov.com>
  5) Unattended children's Polilcy
by Amber McCrea <mccrea.amber@als.lib.wi.us>
  6) Franklin Program...
by "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
  7) Lewis & Clark programs
by "John and Carol Anderson" <jwanderson@bluemarble.net>
  8) Re: Camping books bib request
by Nancy Keane <nancy@nancykeane.com>
  9) Andrew Clements as Speaker
by "Monica Anderson" <m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us>
 10) Mission Statements
by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
 11) Picture book stumper solved!
by BookBaBa@aol.com
 12) Stumper
by "cross" <cross@illinoisalumni.org>
 13) THANKS FOR THE STUMPER ANSWER!
by Sharon Castanteen <scastanteen@yahoo.com>
 14) stumper...story with twins and blue dishes
by "Patricia Jones" <pjones@zblibrary.org>
 15) Stumper-Children with baby uncle
by rose@missoula.lib.mt.us
 16) Stumper: princees getting the moon
by yancy3828@optonline.net
 17) stumper-folktale, trapped in ice mountain
by "Heather Acerro" <vclsafq4@rain.org>
 18) stumper--fur balls not wanting to sleep and thanks
by Cathy Sullivan Seblonka <cathys@uproc.lib.mi.us>
 19) Stumper: Small People Chapter Book
by "Chris Mallo" <chrism@GRRL02.GRRL.LIB.MN.US>
 20) Attachment Difficulty
by "Shari Haber" <shaber@mcls.org>
 21) Stumper Solved:  Pig (not) named Petunia
by Steven Engelfried <sengelfried@yahoo.com>

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From: Lorraine Getty <lgetty1969@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: children's program & sequencing
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:17:10 CST

This may seem like a dumb question, but I'm still
relatively new to programming.  I'm planning three
weekly one-hour programs for children ages 3-5 this
summer that will include stories, activities, a craft,
some rhymes, some music and a snack. My question is
how important is it to maintain the same sequence of
those elements for that many programs?  For one
program I was going to end with the snack and
treat/activity bags being passed out, but for another
I was thinking of doing the snack as the
next-to-the-last thing following some really active
things, and doing a craft at the end. 

Is there a "best" sequence for things like that?  Is
it best to end with snacks or does it matter?  Is it
important to be consistent with kids of this age so
they know what to expect, or does it not matter with
only three programs?

Lorraine Getty
Forsyth Public Library
Forsyth, IL


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From: "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Summer Reading Program "Reading Verification"
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:17:18 CST

In our library system we have always used number of books read. In the =
smaller branches, we can be a little more careful about trying to make =
sure that kids read at their level, thus negating the "Read 3 easy books =
in a day" syndrome.  We have a series of questions which we have available =
so that if the staff member does not know the book the child read, they =
can pick one of the questiosn to ask. These are quite general but elicit =
specific answers. An example would be "Other than the main character, who =
would you like to be, in the story?"  or, "Was this a happy or a sad =
story?"
Kids enjoy the chance to talk about the books they have read, unless, of =
course, they haven't read them!
I think that in fact, we have less cheating this way.
Sheilah O'Connor
Toronto Public Library

>>> RitaHuntSmith@DERRYTOWNSHIP.ORG 03/13/03 04:31PM >>>
We use minutes for summer program for just this reason. We also have some
alternative literacy activities that can be substituted for minutes (not
all, but some). This works well for us and allows us to have a program =
that
is adaptable to children from 3 to 14.

I, too, used to worry about whether or not kids were "faking" it. I =
finally
just let it go. At the risk of sounding crunchy or New Age-y, let the
universe take care of itself. Obviously, the child who cheats realizes =
that
this is something worth cheating about. At least part of the summer =
reading
message is getting through--reading is so important that it is worth lying
about. Not what we librarians might have in mind, but we'll take what we =
can
get. Your trust is going to mean more to that suspected cheater than your
suspicion. This just might be the child that decides, "Hey that library =
lady
isn't so bad. Maybe next summer I'll really read something!" I am a firm
believer that trust breeds more trust.

Rita

Rita Hunt Smith
Children's Librarian
Hershey Public Library
701 Cocoa Ave
Hershey, PA 17033
ritahuntsmith@derrytownship.org=20
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From: Susan Ungham <sungham@elyria.lib.oh.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Family Storytime Answers
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:17:28 CST

Hi, Stacey!

I recommend that you rush out and read two books by Rob Reid to answer all
your questions about family storytimes: _Family Storytime: Twenty-Four
Creative Programs for All Ages_ and _Something Funny Happened at the
Library_.  Rob Reid has many great ideas!

Susan Ungham, Outreach Coordinator
Elyria Public Library
1194 West River Road, North
Elyria, Ohio 44035
440-324-6843 Phone
440-324-4766 Fax
sungham@elyria.lib.oh.us

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From: "Sue Baldwin" <sbaldwin@nngov.com>
To: "PUBYAC \(E-mail\)" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: prizes for a talent show
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:18:27 CST

Hi,

We are getting ready to have our talent show for elementary school kids this
Saturday. Last year we had a talent show for middle/high school kids and
awarded mall gift cards to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. I had planned on doing
the same thing this year. Over the weekend we had a parent call and express
concern about awarding prizes and making it too much of a competition. So, I
was thinking of giving everyone who enters a ribbon and participation
certificate. I was wondering what other libraries have done. For the younger
kids, should we keep it less competitive and award everyone or reward the
top acts?? We didn't have any problems last year giving out awards. Thanks
for all your advice in advance.

Sue Baldwin
Supervising Librarian
Main Street Library & Outreach Services
Newport News Subregional Library
Newport News, VA 23601
757-591-4858 voice
757-591-7425 fax
sbaldwin@nngov.com

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From: Amber McCrea <mccrea.amber@als.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Unattended children's Polilcy
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:21:28 CST

Dear collective brain,

Our Unattended Children's Policy (everyone's favorite topic) has come up
for review by the board.  They wording we have right now is pretty vague
and open to wide interpretation.  (for example the policy states that a
younger child must be accompanied by a parent or and older child with no
age mentioned for the older child)  I would like to make the policy a
little more concrete and have checked with area agencies such as social
services concerning  the minimum age it is legally acceptable to leave a
non adult in charge of  a young child only to find out that in WI there
is no minimum age of responsibility.  So in an effort for guidance in
this matter I was wondering if anyone had spelled out in their policies
what age the older "baby-sitting" child had to be and if there was a
recommended length of a library visit in their policies.  Any help on
this topic would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Amber McCrea
Beloit Public Library
Beloit WI

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From: "Barbara Scott" <barbarascott@hotmail.com>
To: OPLINLIST@EPICURUS.OPLIN.LIB.OH.US, PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Franklin Program...
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:21:35 CST

Franklin the Turtle Program

    On Saturday, March 22, 2003, 17 participants, ages 3-5, attended the
Bucyrus Public Library's Franklin the Turtle program.

    The program began with a Powerpoint presentation on Franklin and his
creators done by Children's Librarian Barb Scott.  After that, she shared
the book Franklin's Bad Day.

    Then, participants were invited to the craft tables to make and take
several crafts.  They were:

1.  Franklin Bookmarks:  Participants colored both sides of the bookmark
which was then folded and laminated.

2.  Franklin Toilet Paper Tube Craft:  Participants received a sheet with
Franklin "pieces" to color and cut out.  These pieces were glued onto a
toilet paper tube and the result was a cute Franklin, complete with shell.

3.  Franklin Coloring Page:  Participants colored a line drawing of
Franklin.  These were turned in to Mrs. Scott for display with the pictures
taken of the day's events.

4.  Franklin Door Hanger Craft:  The Ellison door hanger die was used, along
with a picture of Franklin in his "Franklin-stein" Halloween costume.  The
picture of Franklin was colored, then cut out and glued onto the door hanger
shape.

5.  Footprints of Franklin and His Forest Friends:  Stamps were provided for
Franklin and 7 of his forest friends for participants to ink up and stamp
onto a piece of construction paper.

    Once crafts were done, it was snack time!  Snacks included cookies,
punch, pretzels, and goldfish crackers.  Participants viewed 2 short
Franklin videos while munching on snacks.

    The highlight of the afternoon was a visit from Franklin himself!  Many
children had their picture taken with Franklin, who walked from table to
table as the crafts were made.

    Before they left, each child received Franklin coloring pages, a
Franklin bookmark, and two pages of Franklin stickers.

    Our costume was borrowed from Scholastic.  The bookmarks and one set of
stickers were ordered through Demco and the other set of stickers came along
with the costume.

    I would be glad to send patterns to anyone who would like them.  Check
out our website, also, at www.bucyrus.lib.oh.us  Click on Children's and
then scroll down until you see our Franklin program summary, complete with
pictures.


Barbara Scott
Children's Librarian, Bucyrus Public Library
Ohio Reading Program Manual Editor




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From: "John and Carol Anderson" <jwanderson@bluemarble.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Lewis & Clark programs
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:21:43 CST

Greetings,
    I'd love to hear from other libraries that are planning on
activities, events, crafts, etc. to celebrate the Lewis & Clark trek
anniversary. We are doing a family SRP w/this theme. If there's
interest, I'd be more than willing to post a hit.
Thanks,
Carol Thornton-Anderson
Melton Public Library
French Lick, IN
jwanderson@bluemarble.net
 

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From: Nancy Keane <nancy@nancykeane.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Camping books bib request
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:21:50 CST

There's a list on ATN Reading Lists

http://nancykeane.com/rl/99.htm

Nancy
At 12:21 AM 3/23/03 -0600, you wrote:

>I'm doing a storytime with a camping theme next month. We are going to sit
>around the "camp fire", tell stories, sing camp songs, and make a craft.
>Has
>anyone done anything like this?  Any suggestions?
>Thanks.

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Nancy J. Keane, nancy@nancykeane.com
Author of "Giles' Journey" (2000), "Booktalks and Beyond" (2001)"Booktalking
Across the Curriculum" (2002), "Teaching ... Through Literature" ( 2002)
Rundlett Middle School 144 South Street Concord, New Hampshire 03301
Recipient 2002 N.H.Excellence in Education Award (EDies)
Recipient 2001 N.H.Educational Media Association Service Award
Host of Kids Book Beat television show
Booktalks Page http://www.nancykeane.com/booktalks
++++++Do the best you can and maintain a sense of humor++++++

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From: "Monica Anderson" <m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Andrew Clements as Speaker
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:21:58 CST

Greetings!

Has anyone ever heard Andrew Clements speak?  We are particularly
interested in how he does with 4th and 5th grade students.  If you
have heard him, please e-mail comments to me at the address below.

Thank you.

Monica Anderson
Youth Services Librarian
Grace A. Dow Memorial Library
Midland Michigan
m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us

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From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Mission Statements
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:22:06 CST

We are starting to create a YA Services Committee (finally!) at are library.
We have a librarian from each of the 2 branches, 2 librarians from the Main
library's Adult Services, and 2 librarians who have strong interest in YA
from the Young People's Department.  We are all eager to do lots of things,
and are getting off to a good start with outreach ideas and programming.
However, we want to give ourselves, the library and our patrons some
recognition of what we are about.  So, I come to you all asking for the
dreaded mission statement.  If you have a specific mission statement,
policies, etc. that are directed to Young Adult Services, materials, and
programming, could you please send me a copy/set?  You can snail mail, fax
or e-mail.  Thanks so much!

Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals, Audiovisual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL   60505
PHONE: 630-264-4100
FAX: 630-896-3209
www.aurora.lib.il.us
E-mail:  bltata@aurora.lib.il.us

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From: BookBaBa@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Picture book stumper solved!
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:22:15 CST


Thanks to Ann Dondero, Kristine Zimmerman, and Cindy Vanderbrink; I now know
that the picture book about the food sharing in the park is "Mr. Floop's
Lunch"  by Matt Novak.  Funny how those little things can drive you crazy!

Victoria Haddon
Grapevine Public Library
Grapevine TX  76051

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From: "cross" <cross@illinoisalumni.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:22:24 CST

A patron is looking for a book that he read to his children in the late
1970's.  The story is about a spotted dog named Jake, and includes the line
"Jake, Jake for goodness sake, you don't have the sense of a two-headed
snake."  The patron believes the entire book was a story in rhyme and that
the format was easy reader.

Any guesses?

-Andy Cross
Children's Librarian
Chicago Public Library

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From: Sharon Castanteen <scastanteen@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: THANKS FOR THE STUMPER ANSWER!
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:22:32 CST


This is Purple, Green and Yellow by Robert Munsch.  The girl's name is
Brigid.  She colours herself with the
"super-indelible-never-come-off-till-you're-dead-and-maybe-even-later"
markers.  Then she colours herself with a marker that is the same
colour as
herself.  This is fine until she had to wash with soap.  Then her
mother
takes Brigid to a doctor who gives her a pill that makes her invisible.
Brigid colours herself with the "same colour as herself" marker.




Sharon Castanteen
Director of Children's Services
River Edge Public Library
River Edge, NJ  07661
scastanteen@yahoo.com

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From: "Patricia Jones" <pjones@zblibrary.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper...story with twins and blue dishes
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:22:42 CST

Hi All!
This is probably impossible, but the more "stumpers" I read, the more I
wonder if  the "Great Brain" can help me.  My grandmother read this story to
me in the late 1940s-early 1950s. I begged for it over and over again but
cannot remember the title. It was in an anthology but I don't remember its
title either. The story is about a middle-aged spinster who decides to go to
the local orphanage to adopt a boy who will be a help to her. Instead her
heart is stolen by blue-eyed twin girls with long yellow braids. They live
together happily with each girl taking up one of the lady's hobbies
(gardening and cooking), and the three of them choosing and buying things
together such as a set of blue dishes. In the winter the lady will overhear
one of the girls murmuring nasturtiums, etc. as she reads gardening books,
and the other one murmuring snickerdoodles, etc as she reads cook books. In
the Spring they discover that they need a new roof and, because of the money
they have spent, cannot afford it. The story ends happily as the girls each
use their new interest to help earn money to fix the roof. I would love to
read this story again! I tried key word search in CCS (our local library
consortium) and NSLS (North Suburban Library Services). Being a "not famous"
short story by an unknown author is a real stumbling block. If anyone can
help please write to my e-mail address <pjones@zblibrary.org>  Pat Jones

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From: rose@missoula.lib.mt.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper-Children with baby uncle
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:22:50 CST

Hello to the Great Brain,

Someone in Missoula (Montana) is looking for a series of books she remembers
reading as a child, close to 50 years ago.  Anyway, the series is about some
children
who take care of their uncle and he is a baby.  The patron remembers that it
was the
first time she heard the word "pram", because they pushed their uncle around
in a
pram.  She thinks it was a British author and the series was named after the
family.
Does this ring a bell with anyone?  No one here at Missoula Public Library
has heard
of it and I haven't looked anywhere else for the information since it's so
vague.
Thanks in  advance.

Karen Gonzales
Children's Librarian
Missoula Public Library
Missoula MT
rose@missoula.lib.mt.us

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From: yancy3828@optonline.net
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: princees getting the moon
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I was organizing a story time for preschoolers on the moon, syars, space,
etc. and I remembered a book I read and loved in my youth about a princess
who asks her king father to get her the moon. Despite this grandeous
request, she is not a spoiled child. Her king father knows this is not
something he can actually obtain, so he wants to get her a fake one for her
neckalace, yet he wants to pevent the princess from seeing the moon, so she
won't know he tried to pull a fast one. The bulk of the story is ways in
which the king tried to stop the girl from seeing the real moon outside (
putting the kingdom under a giant tent, never letting the girl outside
again, etc.) One day the court jester simply asks the girl what will people
do with no moon if she's wearing it around her neck, and the princess
answers that the moon just grows back like a tooth. Problem solved.

Any clues as to the title and/or author? You can email medirectly at
catsndog@optonline.net. Thank you!!

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From: "Heather Acerro" <vclsafq4@rain.org>
To: "Pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper-folktale, trapped in ice mountain
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This half-remembered folktale includes a woman who is trapped at the top of
an ice mountain and her savior has to try to ride his horse up the ice
mountian.
Any help would be appreciated.
thank you.

Heather Acerro
Youth Librarian
Ray D. Prueter Library
vclsafq4@rain.org

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From: Cathy Sullivan Seblonka <cathys@uproc.lib.mi.us>
To: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children
Subject: stumper--fur balls not wanting to sleep and thanks
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:23:16 CST

First--thanks for your help in locating our missing moose.  He reported in
and he's enjoying himself and learning to speak with a southern accent.

Second--the stumper: Does anyone know what book this is: a 27 year old
read this book as a kid (1980s).  It's a picture book with large-eyed fur
ball kind of characters who don't want to go to sleep because they don't
want to miss anything that's going on.  They are hanging out in the woods
and are sitting around a campfire.

Thanks for your help.

Cathy Sullivan Seblonka
Youth Services Librarian
Peter White Public Library
217 N. Front St.
Marquette, MI 49855
(906) 228-9510
fax (906) 226-1783
e-mail: cathys@uproc.lib.mi.us

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From: "Chris Mallo" <chrism@GRRL02.GRRL.LIB.MN.US>
To: "pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper: Small People Chapter Book
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:23:25 CST

I'm back again to query the wonderful collective Pubyac mind.  I have a
patron who remembers a (chapter) book about a group of small people about
the size of the Littles & Borrowers, but his characters were more like
elves.  They hid from humans, travelled by boat and had their won language.
Two scenes he remembers: (1)Messages in their language carved on stone
bridges - travelling directions he thinks; and (2)cooking food in a pan made
from a shot gun shell.  Does anyone have any ideas?  This book would be from
the 50's or 60's.  Help!

Thanks!

Chris



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Chris Mallo
Children's Specialist
Great River Regional Library
405 St. Germain
St. Cloud, MN 56401
Phone (320) 650-2500, Fax (320) 650-2501
chrism@grrl.lib.mn.us
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From: "Shari Haber" <shaber@mcls.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Attachment Difficulty
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:32:09 CST

Is anybody else having trouble pulling up the attachments of the PubYAC
queries that were sent over the past weekend. When I click on the
paperclip, the digested (that sounds awful) messages are paler looking
than usual, and they do not pop up when I click on them.

Shari Haber
MCLS Reference Center
shaber@mcls.org

[Moderator:  nothing has changed with PUBYAC to my knowledge.   It would be
interesting to see if others are having the same problem.  You can always
subscribe to the digest-nomime, which should make it so you don't get your
digest in those little icons.  --Shannon]

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From: Steven Engelfried <sengelfried@yahoo.com>
To: Pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper Solved:  Pig (not) named Petunia
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:32:49 CST

We were looking for a picture book about a pig family
that featured a pig named "Petunia."  Many thanks to
Susan Dailey, who suspected that it might actually be
the "Poinsettia" books by Felicia Bond.  This turns
out to be the case, and our patron is very pleased
that "we" could find the book even when she gave us
the wrong information...

- Steven Engelfried, Head of Youth Services
  Beaverton City Library
  12375 SW 5th Street
  Beaverton, OR  97005
  503-526-2599
  sengelfried@ci.beaverton.or.us


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