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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1112
PUBYAC Digest 1112
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Program advertising
by Paulalef@aol.com
2) book
by Frances Easterling <machild@cmrls.lib.ms.us>
3) library card age limits
by Joyce Welkie <JWelkie@plainfield.lib.in.us>
4) Re: home school collection
by LunarHunk@aol.com
5) Re: Program advertising
by "Wanda Jones" <wjones98@hotmail.com>
6) Great Illustrated Classics
by Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
7) book buddies
by "Christine Brobst" <cbrobst66@hotmail.com>
8) backwards day theme
by "Austin, Renee" <RAUSTIN@co.napa.ca.us>
9) Re: Graphic novels
by Rjohc@aol.com
10) Movie Night
by "Swalena Griffin" <SGriffin@itpld.lib.il.us>
11) RE: Library Cat
by "Gwendolyn Haley" <ghaley@kcls.org>
12) recruitment announcement
by "Kathleen McHarg" <KATHLEENM@ci.tigard.or.us>
13) PJ Storytime
by "April Mazza" <AMazza@minlib.net>
14) The Freedom to Read Protection Act (H.R. 1157)
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
15) Re: "Great Illustrated Classics"
by OdonLibrarian@aol.com
16) Re: dumbed-down editions
by "Linda Schloegel" <lschloli@hotmail.com>
17) Re: dumbed-down editions
by "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
18) RE: Library Cats
by Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us>
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From: Paulalef@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Program advertising
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:03:18 CDT
Another thing you might try if your circ staff cooperates: ask them to stick
a flyer in books of people with children (or everyone, if you can do it) for
a few weeks before a program.
Paula Lefkowitz
Parsippany (NJ) PL
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From: Frances Easterling <machild@cmrls.lib.ms.us>
To: "pubyac@prairienet.org"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: book
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:03:28 CDT
The elementary school in my area will be having summer school again this
year. They always open with a word of encouragement. It usually
lasts
about 5 minutes. I would like to sign up for this and use a book.
Can
anyone think of a good short book that encourages? The only book I can
think of is Yay You by Sandra Boynton, but in my own opinion, this is
more for high school graduates. Or does anyone think that book will
work? Please reply directly to me.
Frances Easterling
Magee Public Library
Frances Easterling <machild@cmrls.lib.ms.us>
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From: Joyce Welkie <JWelkie@plainfield.lib.in.us>
To: "'mailto:PUBYAC@nysernet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: library card age limits
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:03:36 CDT
Hello,
I'm seeking input from other libraries on how you issue library cards to
children. I'd like to know:
1) at what age may children obtain a library card (and what are the
requirements ?- such as a parent signature, or child print name)
2) is the child limited to a certain number and/or type of material that
he/she may borrow?
3) if you give a card to a child at birth, do you make a special effort to
locate newborn children, and if so, how to you get that information?
4) do you issue any type of family card for residents in your district?
Please include your library name and location in your response and I'll
compile and post the results. Send your responses to me at:
jwelkie@plainfield.lib.in.us
Thanks,
Joyce Welkie
Head of Children's Services
Plainfield-Guilford Township Public Library
1120 Stafford Road
Plainfield, IN 46168
317-839-6602x127
jwelkie@plainfield.lib.in.us
www.plainfield.lib.in.us
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From: LunarHunk@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: home school collection
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Hiya, Cindy,
We are actually working on having the school district provide us with 2
copies of all the textbooks they use. One for circulation and one for
reference. We are using the idea that many students forget their books at
school as well as the fact that homeschoolers would like access to them. It
is on our short term plan. We are hoping to get a positive response from
the Superintendent.
As for purchasing large numbers of textbooks, it is probably not something
that we could even afford to considering the number of homeschoolers over
just about the whole curriculum range.
Aaron Coutu
Youth Services Librarian
Greenville Public Library
Greenville, RI 02828
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From: "Wanda Jones" <wjones98@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Program advertising
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:03:52 CDT
I've always found it helpful to start advertising programs at schools.
Just
some advice.
>From: vmenor@SAFe-mail.net
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: Program advertising
>Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:10:08 CDT
>
>Hi everyone!
>
>I'm planning on starting a new storytime at my branch, and I'm not sure how
>early I should start handing out flyers and putting up posters. I'm worried
>that if I start too soon, by the time the program starts people will have
>stopped "seeing" the notices, but that if I wait until too late I
won't get
>anyone. Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Vanessa
>
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From: Lin_Look/staff/cccl%LIBRARY@contra-costa.lib.ca.us
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Great Illustrated Classics
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:04:00 CDT
I read the Great Illustrated "Three Musketeers" and never bothered
reading
the book until I was forced to (for a book club). I was astonished at how
much I liked the book. But I still haven't bothered to read
"Frankenstein"
or "Wuthering Heights", two other comics I remember reading.
I tend to be of the opinion that if a child isn't ready to read a certain
book, it's better to wait till they're able to enjoy the complexities. As
someone pointed out, the author worked hard to choose the right words in
the right way. The world is full of other stories.
Lin Look
Orinda Branch
Contra Costa County, CA
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From: "Christine Brobst" <cbrobst66@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: book buddies
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Hello Great Brain,
I am hoping some of you can help me with a summer program. I have planned
a
book buddies series with teen voluteers paired with younger children to help
them read. I kept most of the messages about this from pubyac, but I was
wondering if anyone had a set of guidelines for the teens. I need to have
a
training or orientation session with them, and I would like to give them
some direction.
Thanks for your help.
Chrissy Brobst
Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library
Stow, OH
cbrobst66@hotmail.com
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From: "Austin, Renee" <RAUSTIN@co.napa.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: backwards day theme
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Help! I need fingerplays, poetry and a felt or draw story for our
"Backwards
Day" theme for one week of our summer (preschool, toddler and family)
storytimes. I have found a few books that are backwards, or upside down or
inside out. If you have anything that I can use, please send it to me at
raustin@co.napa.ca.us Thank
you!
Renee Austin
Children's Librarian
Napa City-County Library
Napa Valley, CA
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From: Rjohc@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Graphic novels
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:04:24 CDT
I recently moved Jekyll and Hyde from our Teen section to Humanities section
after I read it and another staff member did also. We didn't remove it,
but
felt it was better in the adult area due to violent sexual scene. The
graphic novel itself is very well done. Reading them of course gives you a
good idea where it should be placed as well as your community standards.
Another very helpful thing I do is read recommendations from the graphic
novel listserv at GN-Topica. There is a lot of knowledge there.
Fortunately more of the tools like Library Journal are now reviewing the
graphic novels than before.
Robyn Hammer-Clarey
Teen Librarian
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
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From: "Swalena Griffin" <SGriffin@itpld.lib.il.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Movie Night
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Hello all,
My library is starting a family movie night in the fall. For libraries
that show movies, do you set an age limit for feature length movies? I
am concerned with the younger children's attention span. Also, how do
you handle seating? I want as many people as possible to see the movie.
Thank you in advance.
Swalena Griffin
Youth Services Program Manager
Indian Trails Public Library District
355 S. Schoenbeck
Wheeling, IL 60090
(847) 459-4100, x225
Fax (847) 459-4760
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From: "Gwendolyn Haley" <ghaley@kcls.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Library Cat
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:04:42 CDT
I worked in a library branch that had a cat named Booker. Booker was a
favorite with many patrons although there were some that were allergic
and/or afraid of cats. When that happened, we had to keep Booker in the
staff room.
While having a kitty in the library was novel, and many people enjoyed
it--I often wondered if it was the best environment for Booker. He had
to spend every evening in his large cage, and often hid--especially
during the busier times in the library. Ultimately, Booker
"retired"
because he sustained an injury "on the job". Staff suspected
that a
library patron may have kicked him.
Not everyone is inclined to be kind to animals they meet. In addition to
concerns for patron and staff health and well-being, think about whether
you can keep the animal safe and healthy in your library.
--Gwendolyn Haley
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From: "Kathleen McHarg" <KATHLEENM@ci.tigard.or.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:04:50 CDT
POSITION: LIBRARIAN - Young Adult=20
=09
SALARY: $2,821- $3,779/monthly with
excellent benefits
CLOSING DATE: 5:00 PM, Monday, June 9, 2003
THE POSITION:
Performs professional library work in the Young Adult Services area.
=
Duties may include, but are not limited to: =20
" Performs professional level materials selection/collection =
development duties, including reviewing and evaluating materials, =
performing needs analysis to determine additions to collection, managing =
acquisition of new items for collection in the young adult services area =
and participating in the acquisition process for the full library =
collection;
" Performs professional level reference and readers advisory duties =
including assisting patrons of all ages in the use of library collections =
through reference interview and instruction in the use of catalogs, =
indexes, on-line databases, files, the Internet and appropriate reference =
materials; evaluating patron needs to determine services required, =
searching the Internet and utilizing other Library computer system =
resources to obtain information needed by patrons.
" Develops and coordinates young adult program, the Homework Center, =
special events and displays including planning and creating displays, =
posters, bookmarks and bibliographies; preparing and presenting booktalks; =
preparing, marketing and implementing school programs, summer reading =
programs and special events for young adults.
" Participates in development and implementation of library-wide =
policies, procedures and programs.
" Participates in preparation of annual budget, manages funds =
allocated to assigned area of responsibility.
" Trains and monitors the work of volunteers; provides assistance in =
training new employees; may provide technical supervision to support =
staff.
" Performs special projects and studies as assigned; prepares weekly =
and monthly activity reports.
" Represents the library on local, state or regional committees and =
professional organizations.
QUALIFICATIONS: Knowledge of the principles and practices of professional
=
librarianship, needs analysis, education, planning and programming; =
knowledge of electronic media, including on-line data bases and CD-ROMS; =
knowledge of public relations practices and techniques. Skill in using =
electronic media to accomplish work; skill in teaching patrons; skill in =
performing statistical analysis and reaching defensible conclusions; skill =
in performing promotional and community outreach activities. Ability to =
plan, organize, manage and coordinate activities; ability to prepare and =
monitor budgets and maintain fiscal records; ability to manage resources; =
ability to relate to all library and community organizations; ability to =
analyze and review materials in order to determine needs; ability to =
communicate effectively orally and in writing. =20
EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING: Any combination of experience and training
=
which provides the required knowledge and abilities is qualifying. A
=
typical way to obtain the required knowledge and abilities would be =
through post graduate training in library science and responsible =
experience working in a library. MLS preferred. Bilingual experience
=
desirable.
APPLICATION PROCEDURE: All candidates must complete a City of Tigard =
employment application and supplemental questionnaire. . Application and =
supplemental questionnaire may be obtained at the City of Tigard, 13125 SW =
Hall Blvd., Tigard, OR 97223, or you may download application and =
supplemental questionnaire from our web site: www.ci.tigard.or.us
or =
request that they be mailed to you by phoning (503) 624-9471. Application
=
and supplemental questionnaire must be received no later than 5:00 p.m. =
Monday, June 9, 2003.=20
YOUNG ADULT SERVICES LIBRARIAN
SUPPLEMENTAL QUESTIONS
All candidates are required to respond to the three supplemental questions =
listed below. Responses should be limited to a maximum of one page per =
question. As excellent written communication skills are required for this
=
position, responses will be evaluated for style, grammar and punctuation =
as well as for content.
1. We at the Tigard Public Library are looking at ways to build a =
more encompassing relationship with our local schools. Describe your =
ideas in this area and the approaches you feel would help us move toward =
that goal.
2. The Tigard Public Library has a large pool of volunteers that we =
use for a variety of projects and routine duties. Describe your
experience=
with young adult volunteers and some ideas for recruiting new ones.
3. The Tigard Public Library has a rich community program, both =
within the walls of the library and outside. Describe programs you have =
done or would like to explore, such as outreach and partnership projects.
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From: "April Mazza" <AMazza@minlib.net>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: PJ Storytime
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:04:58 CDT
Hi all,
Anyone have any "fresh" ideas (crafts, fingerplays, books,
games...whatever!) for Pajama Storytime?
We're planning a big one during our SRP and I'd like to make it special :)
Thanks in advance!
April Mazza
Youth Services
Wayland Public Library
(508) 358-2308
AMazza@minlib.net
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From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: The Freedom to Read Protection Act (H.R. 1157)
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Book Groups Call for Patriot Act Amendment
For immediate release
For further information, contact:
Chris Finan, American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression, (212)
587-4025
chris@abffe.com
Judith F. Krug, American Library Association, (312) 280-4222,
jkrug@ala.org
NEW YORK, N.Y., May 15, 2003ûThe book and library community today
announced its strong support for the Freedom to Read Protection Act
(H.R. 1157), a bill that restores the protections for the privacy of
book and library records that were eliminated by the U.S.A. Patriot Act.
Thirty two groups representing booksellers, librarians, book publishers,
authors and others joined several companies, including Barnes & Noble
Booksellers and Borders Group Inc., in issuing a statement supporting
H.R. 1157, which was introduced by Congressman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) on
March 6. ôThe book community is united in believing that Section 215 of
the Patriot Act threatens First Amendment freedom by making people
afraid that their purchase and borrowing records may be monitored by the
government,ö Chris Finan, president of the American Booksellers
Foundation for Free Expression, said. To view the complete statement, go
to: http://www.freeexpression.org/ftrpa.htm.
ôProtecting the confidentiality of oneÆs use of the library is of
primary concern to librarians,ö Judith F. Krug, executive director of
the American Library AssociationÆs Office for Intellectual Freedom,
said. ôRep. SandersÆ bill would restore this core value of
librarianship.ö Krug is also executive director of the Freedom to Read
Foundation.
Under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, FBI agents do not need to prove
they have ôprobable causeö before searching bookstore or library
records: they can get access to the records of anyone whom they believe
to have information that may be relevant to a terrorism investigation,
including people who are not suspected of committing a crime or of
having any knowledge of a crime. The request for an order authorizing
the search is heard by a secret court in a closed proceeding, making it
impossible for a bookseller or librarian to have the opportunity to
object on First Amendment grounds prior to the execution of the order.
Because the order contains a gag provision forbidding a bookseller or
librarian from alerting anyone to the fact that a search has occurred,
it would be difficult to protest the search even after the fact.
If H.R. 1157 is enacted, law enforcement officials will still be able
to subpoena bookstore and library records crucial to an investigation,
but the courts will exercise their normal scrutiny in reviewing these
requests.
H.R. 1157 is co-sponsored by 95 members of the House, including eight
Republicans. For a complete list, go to
http://news.bookweb.org/freeexpression/1257.html.
The signers of the statement are Alibris.com, American Association of
Law Libraries, American Booksellers Association, American Booksellers
Foundation for Free Expression, American Library Association, American
Society of Journalists and Authors, Association of American Publishers,
Association of American University Presses, Association of Booksellers
for Children, Authors Guild, Barnes & Noble Booksellers,
Books-A-Million, Borders Group Inc., ChildrenÆs Book Council, Comic Book
Legal Defense Fund, Florida Publishers Association, Freedom to Read
Foundation, Great Lakes Booksellers Association, Medical Library
Association, Mid-South Independent Booksellers Association, Mountains
and Plains Booksellers Association, Mystery Writers of America, National
Association of College Stores, New Atlantic Independent Booksellers
Association, New England Booksellers Association, Northern California
Independent Booksellers Association, Pacific Northwest Booksellers
Association, PEN America!
n Center, PEN USA West, Publishers Association of the South,
Publishers Association of the West, Publishers Marketing Association,
Southeast Booksellers Association, Southern California Booksellers
Association, Special Libraries Association, Upper Midwest Booksellers
Association.
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From: OdonLibrarian@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: "Great Illustrated Classics"
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Thank you for the many good responses I received to my question about
simplified classics. We've decided to add the donated books to our
collection.
To paraphrase and summarize the many good points made:
1. Several mentioned having good memories of simplified classics they read
multiple times as children. (That was a reminder not only of my own
enjoyment of a simplified version of "The Swiss Family Robinson" as a
child
but that these versions are short enough to read multiple times and still
have energy to tackle the real thing later in life.)
2. Like movies, some adaptations are better than others. Just
because one
is bad doesn't mean they should all be discarded without a second glance.
3. Some classics contain such cumbersome language that, for modern
readers,
the story is lost in the drudgery of the telling. If it's a good story,
liberating it from the cobwebs of dated language makes it accessible to new
generations. (Having a half-read copy of "Moby Dick" buried in
my bedside
book pile right now makes that point hit hard. Maybe I'll read the version
included in the book donations and be done with it. :-) )
4. Some classics hang on the beauty of the narrative as much as the story
line. These may lose their sheen in adaptive form. But who's to say
which
ones should be adapted and which left for older readers?
As I read the responses, I realized that the greatest grief I've had has
been with adaptations that make a pretense of being unabridged, that have
lured me into investing substantial reading time for a not-quite-all-there
story. These donated adaptations for children don't pretend to be what
they're not.
One more personal observation. Someone mentioned reading a classic story
when young and not "getting it". I was a horse story reader and
"Black
Beauty" was, of course, on my list of favorite books of all time.
After I
was married, I spotted a copy at a garage sale and nostalgia prompted me to
not only buy it but to read it. I was shocked! This wasn't a horse
story!
It was social commentary. I had never suspected even for a moment in my
first seven readings of it. :-)
Thanks again for the wonderful input.
Marsha
Marsha Lynn
Odon Winkelpleck Public Library
Odon, Indiana
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From: "Linda Schloegel" <lschloli@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: dumbed-down editions
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:05:23 CDT
Hi all,
As a rule, I firmly believe that a book should have the
words that the
author wrote; but I spent nine years in a K-8 school which was also a magnet
school for students with language disabilities. Those junior high students
had to read classics, but could not comprehend them in the unabridged
version. Great Illustrated Classics saved the day.
Linda Schloegel
Youth Services Librarian
Lakeside Branch Library
Lakeside, CA
lschloli@hotmail.com
>From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
>Subject: dumbed-down editions
>Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:09:28 CDT
>
>Seems to me there's a difference between an easy version of a folk tale,
>like Robin Hood, and a dumbed-down version of a book to which language is
>important, the Hobbit, for example.
>
>We just got a copy of a Troll book called _The Merry Adventures of Robin
>Hood_. Retold by Joan Mattern, illustrated by Susi Kilgore. It's
>perfectly
>okay, except that for some unknown reason, they put Howard Pyle's name on
>it, too. It doesn't have his words or his pictures, so what his name
is
>doing there is a mystery to me.
>
>But for the other things--I dunno, I hate the idea, but what to do for the
>desperate parent whose eleven-year-old has been told to read Huckleberry
>Finn? I'm inclined to lean towards Cliff Notes, myself, but not all
>parents
>think those are a good idea.
>
>However, they should be marked in big letters "ABRIDGED". I
grew up on
>Classics comics, but I -never- thought I'd read the books. (And my
life
>has
>been rich and full even without reading _The Prisoner of Zenda_)
>
>Picture books taken from longer books might come in here, too, like the
>Narnian and Little House ones.
>
>Bonita
>
>
>
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From: "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:05:31 CDT
Part of the problem is convincing parents that just because their kids =
have heard about something - say, Disney has taken Last of the Mohicans =
and made a cartoon of it - it doesn't mean that the child is ready for the =
book. I'm sure that many of us have had parents ask for a simplified =
version of Harry Potter for their little ones.=20
I agree with Bonita. Classics are classics because of all of the elements. =
The language and the story and the flow. Yes, Dickens was paid by the word =
and some of the verbiage could probably be cut out without the book =
suffering, but that is not what many of these abridged classics do.
Can you tell I don't like them? ;-)
Sheilah O'Connor
Toronto Public Library
>>> Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org
05/14/03 01:09PM >>>
Seems to me there's a difference between an easy version of a folk tale,
like Robin Hood, and a dumbed-down version of a book to which language is
important, the Hobbit, for example.
We just got a copy of a Troll book called _The Merry Adventures of Robin
Hood_. Retold by Joan Mattern, illustrated by Susi Kilgore. It's =
perfectly
okay, except that for some unknown reason, they put Howard Pyle's name on
it, too. It doesn't have his words or his pictures, so what his name is
doing there is a mystery to me.
But for the other things--I dunno, I hate the idea, but what to do for the
desperate parent whose eleven-year-old has been told to read Huckleberry
Finn? I'm inclined to lean towards Cliff Notes, myself, but not all =
parents
think those are a good idea.
However, they should be marked in big letters "ABRIDGED". I grew
up on
Classics comics, but I -never- thought I'd read the books. (And my life =
has
been rich and full even without reading _The Prisoner of Zenda_)
Picture books taken from longer books might come in here, too, like the
Narnian and Little House ones.
Bonita
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From: Jennie Stoltz <jstoltz@esls.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Library Cats
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:05:39 CDT
Now first and foremost I want to say I AM A CAT PERSON. I have two cats
and
I love them dearly. But, I have to agree with Caren, cat allergies are a
HUGE issue. I used to own a bookstore and at one point we decided it would
add to the charm if we had a cat there. We had so many customers walk in
and then turn around and walk back out (if they didn't yell at us first)
because they were allergic. I was recently in Denver and noticed that
practically every store we went into had a dog. Guess dog allergies aren't
as severe. Maybe that would be a different option. Course, the bad
thing
about dogs is they want so much petting and affection. At one store I went
to they had a really old, very sad looking dog. Broke my heart, so I
petted
him for quite a bit, but then he followed me around and kept wanting me to
pet him some more. That could be a problem too. Anyway - have you seen the
LIBRARY CATS MAP website? Here's the link :
http://www.ironfrog.com/catsmap.html
Take care,
Jennie
Jennie J. Stoltz
Children's Services Coordinator
Frank L. Weyenberg Library
Mequon/Thiensville, WI
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