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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1113


    PUBYAC Digest 1113

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Top 10 reasons for a Librarian to Retire!
by Frances Easterling <machild@cmrls.lib.ms.us>
  2) Intergenerational (Family) Story Time
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
  3) Re: dumbed-down editions
by Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
  4) Re: PJ Storytime
by Sharon Castanteen <scastanteen@yahoo.com>
  5) Re: Movie Night
by Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>
  6) RE: PJ Storytime
by "Nicole Morgan" <listmessages@sbcglobal.net>
  7) Re: Library Cat
by "Stacey Irish-Keffer" <Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com>
  8) Re: Classics
by "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
  9) cats?  No, birds!
by Dori Blodgett <librarylady4kids@yahoo.com>
 10) Summer jobs for media specialists?
by Paulette Wireman <wireman@helios.acomp.usf.edu>
 11) RE: Library Cats
by "Chris Accardo" <Caccardo@GPTX.org>
 12) great illustrated classics / dumbed down versions
by "Union County Public Library" <unionlib@dynasty.net>
 13) Harry Potter Birthday Party ideas
by "Glendening, Mary" <GlendeningM@excen.library.phila.gov>
 14) RE:Library Cats
by "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
 15) is it time to canonize cleary?
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 16) Electronic Learning Devices for Kids (LeapPad)
by Melissa Smith <melissa_librarian@yahoo.com>
 17) RE: Summer jobs for media specialists?
by "Flores, Linda" <lflore@camden.lib.nj.us>
 18) Question about neon signs
by "Stacey Irish-Keffer" <Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com>
 19) Time limit software
by tzignego@wcfls.lib.wi.us
 20) Re: School visits for summer
by karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
 21) interfiling audiobooks responses---long.
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 22) Styrofoam craft - compilation
by "Natasha Forrester" <nforrester@wpl.org>

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From: Frances Easterling <machild@cmrls.lib.ms.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Top 10 reasons for a Librarian to Retire!
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:12:58 CDT

Here is another one:
You know it is time to retire when someone you used to check out comes back
after so many years and says "YOU ARE STILL HERE??
My branch manager got that one this week.
Frances Easterling
Magee Public Library

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From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Intergenerational (Family) Story Time
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:13:08 CDT

The story time people in my department want to know what other libraries do
for and about family story times.  We have some, and are likely to have
more, because the demand for story time is greater than can be met with
age-specific groups.

I'd like to know what sort of stories and games you do, and if you have a
specific philosophy behind it.  Just anything you can tell me.

If you send to me, I'll try to do a compilation for the list.

Bonita

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From: Margaret Siebert <psiebert12508@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: dumbed-down editions
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:13:16 CDT


I agree that the Great Illustrated Classics, etc. do provide the children
with a clearer understanding of the story, but I wish they didn't dumb down
adult books. I fail to see why it is necessary to reduce adult classics to
child size when there are so many good children's classics that the children
could read with few or no problems. People often request easier versions of
Moby Dick, Robinson Crusoe, Sherlock Holmes,... and I wonder why they don't
just let those wait until the kids have grown into the original. In the
meantime they are missing good reading that fits.
Peg Siebert
Blodgett Library
Fishkill, NY

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From: Sharon Castanteen <scastanteen@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: PJ Storytime
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:13:25 CDT

This idea may be stale, but how about a Stuffed Animal Pet Show.  Each child
can tell the group their stuffed animals name and any events or
characteristics.  Each stuffed animal gets a ribbon with something
appropriate like  "Most loved"   "Most adventurous" (like if the toy got
lost), etc.   Helpful to have someone writing out the ribbons as the
children speak or just generic superlative awards.   Sharon

April Mazza <AMazza@minlib.net> wrote:Hi all,
Anyone have any "fresh" ideas (crafts, fingerplays, books,
games...whatever!) for Pajama Storytime?
We're planning a big one during our SRP and I'd like to make it special :)
Thanks in advance!
April Mazza
Youth Services
Wayland Public Library
(508) 358-2308
AMazza@minlib.net



Sharon Castanteen
Director of Children's Services
River Edge Public Library
River Edge, NJ  07661
scastanteen@yahoo.com

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From: Dawn Sardes <Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Movie Night
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I run a teen movie night for grades 12 to 18.  sometimes parents attend too,
and they are welcome.  I seldom get over 20, as a matter of fact, attendance
is usually in the 12 to 14 range.

I place long tables in a U shape with chairs facing the screen.  I pre-set
each place with a can of pop (soda), a small, individual bag of chips, and a
cupcake I'd baked the night before.  I tried to have large bowls of popcorn,
but the spillage was too intense.  I also tried to have just rows of chairs
with no tables, but the kids kept spilling EVERYTHING all over the place,
often on purpose.  Allowing kids to come up and take their own snacks
resulted in kids grabbing more than their share and wasting.

This set-up is much more controlled.


Dawn Sardes
Teen Services Librarian
Euclid Public Library
Dawn.Sardes@euclidlibrary.org
216-261-5300, ext. 138

"Promote, then, as an object of primary importance, institutions for the
general diffusion of knowledge.  In proportion as the Structure of a
government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public
opinion should be enlightened."

>From the 1796 Farewell Address of George Washington, 1st President of the
United States



----- Original Message -----
From: Swalena Griffin <SGriffin@itpld.lib.il.us>
Date: Thursday, May 15, 2003 4:04 pm
Subject: Movie Night

> Hello all,
> My library is starting a family movie night in the fall.  For
> librariesthat show movies, do you set an age limit for feature
> length movies?  I
> am concerned with the younger children's attention span.  Also,
> how do
> you handle seating?  I want as many people as possible to see the
> movie. Thank you in advance.
>
> Swalena Griffin
> Youth Services Program Manager
> Indian Trails Public Library District
> 355 S. Schoenbeck
> Wheeling, IL 60090
> (847) 459-4100, x225
> Fax (847) 459-4760
>
>

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From: "Nicole Morgan" <listmessages@sbcglobal.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: PJ Storytime
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Hi,
In our summer programming, we change our normal pj storytime to "Camp
Storytime".  We do a whole campout scene - we put glow-in-the-dark stars on
the ceiling, make a fake "campfire" out of painted pringles cans, cellophane
and wire "flames", and lights inside that flicker.  We dim the lights in the
room and bring in battery-operated lanterns for extra light (the cheap kids'
versions).  When the kids enter, we have a Cd of nightime sounds playing
(crickets, etc), and the librarian carries the books into the room in a
backpack.  The kids come in pj's and spread out their blankets/sleeping bags
in front of the fire, and we share summer/nightime/camping stories and sing
nighttime/campfire songs.

Hope this helps - unfortunately I am at home now and don't have any of our
fingerplays, etc.

Nicole Morgan
Lakewood Public Library

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From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org [mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of April Mazza
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 4:05 PM
To: PUBYAC
Subject: PJ Storytime


Hi all,
Anyone have any "fresh" ideas (crafts, fingerplays, books,
games...whatever!) for Pajama Storytime?
We're planning a big one during our SRP and I'd like to make it special :)
Thanks in advance!
April Mazza
Youth Services
Wayland Public Library
(508) 358-2308
AMazza@minlib.net

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From: "Stacey Irish-Keffer" <Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com>
To: <apalladi@ansernet.rcls.org>,<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Library Cat
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:13:51 CDT


>>> "Anita Palladino" <apalladi@ansernet.rcls.org> 05/14/03 01:39PM
>>>
> If you stay away from kitty because you are allergic there shouldn't
be >any >more of a problem than you dust trapping puppets, rugs, drapes,
>etc. -and >boks & papers are notorious for dust & dirt.

Sadly, those of us who are allergic may have more problems than just
sinus allergies.  I have a skin sensitivity to cat hair or saliva that
makes it impossible for me to touch cats for very long or to live with
them.  My skin becomes irritated, red, itchy, and then develops a
burning sensation that only intensifies the longer I am around cats.  I
had to relocate my old cat that I grew up with to my parents house
because I could not live with her any longer. 

 Although I love cats, I would find working with a cat in the same
environment unbearable and would be forced to look for a job elsewhere.
I know my allergy situation is unusual, but it makes me think that
having a cat live in a public building is not the best idea for everyone
and could cause a library patron to be unable to use the library.  I
would hate to have a young child be unable to participate in library
activities because he or she was severely allergic to the library cat.

Just my own thoughts and not in any way reflective of my library
administration.




Stacey Irish-Keffer
Denton Public Library
502 Oakland
Denton, Texas 76201
940.349.7738
slirish@cityofdenton.com

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From: "Beverly Kirkendall" <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Classics
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:13:59 CDT

<<Another version of classics that I love is the Whole Story series.  It =
is
unabridged>>
This is a nice series; I, too like it and think it will give the classics =
a new readership (with a little more understanding!)
But be aware--it isn't always the WHOLE story! Little Women is only the =
first part. Okay, technically the first part alone IS "Little Women" and =
the second part is "Good Wives" but so many copies put both parts under =
the title "Little Women." I haven't looked at other multi-book books (like =
Gulliver's Travels--I'm not even sure it's available in this series), but =
when we get more, I'll try to make sure and check that it really is the =
Whole Story.
Beverly K.
Hurst Public Library
Hurst, TX

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From: Dori Blodgett <librarylady4kids@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: cats?  No, birds!
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:14:08 CDT


Hi!
Here in Brookings we had a long time resident iguana whom after 15 years
passed away.  The cage he lived in is a large glass case with a screen
top...bigger than most display cases. (8' tall , 6' across and 2' deep.)
After he was gone one year, I convinced my director that birds would be fun!
Yep, it took a year.
We now have 2 canaries.  They were supposed to be girls but alas...one male,
and man, does he sing.  The library building is large and the bird house is
in the children's section.  Not one complaint.  Yes,  we have had eggs and
we trade the babies for credits at the local pet store.
I think because they are in glass with screen waaaayyy at the top,  we
don''t have too much trouble with folks and allergies?  Not sure on that
one.  But,  no complaints to date.  We have 2 aquatic frogs,  one horned
frog,  one turtle and a rosy tarantula adding to the menagerie.
We have a grandfather clock, too,  that chimes every quarter hour so we are
not a silent library!
I have heard of a library north of us that had a cat many years ago.
I sure think the pets add a lot to the warmth of the library!  Dori



Dori Blodgett

Children's Services
Chetco Community Public Library
405 Alder St.
Brookings, Or. 97415
(541) 469-7738

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From: Paulette Wireman <wireman@helios.acomp.usf.edu>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Summer jobs for media specialists?
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:14:16 CDT

When I graduate, hopefully, I will land a job as a school media specialist.
I
was wondering what sort of job I could do in the summer for extra money.
How
common is it for media specialists to work temorarily in summers as a youth
librarian in a public library?  I thought that maybe summers would be busier
since kids are out of school, and there might be a greater need for this
position at that time.  What is your experience with this, and are public
libraries pretty open to allowing a media specialist to do temp work in this
manner?

Thanks!
Paulette

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From: "Chris Accardo" <Caccardo@GPTX.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Library Cats
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:14:24 CDT

Stores are different from libraries, though.  They are privately run,
and they stand or fall based on the number of people who are willing to
put up with the environment of the store.

Public libraries, on the other hand, should strive to be inclusive of
all people, not just the ones who are fortunate enough to be
allergy-free.  Having common pets in the library does not add
significantly to a user's library experience, and may actually send some
to the hospital, so why do it?  Are you expecting to draw more people
into the library from it?  "Hey, look, the library has a cat, and Six
Flags doesn't...guess where we're going this weekend!"  What kind of
sense does that make?  Now, if you were going to have a white Bengal
tiger as a library pet, that might be a different story...
 =20
Chris

Mr. Chris Accardo
Librarian
Grand Prairie Memorial Library
901 Conover
Grand Prairie, TX  75051
972.237.5715
caccardo@gptx.org

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From: "Union County Public Library" <unionlib@dynasty.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: great illustrated classics / dumbed down versions
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:14:33 CDT

Yes, I prefer the full version of classics & think everyone should read
them=85..BUT, at least the kids are READING something.  Isn=92t that =
better
than not reading at all?  A reading teacher friend kept all types of
reading materials in her classroom=85.even cereal boxes.  She didn=92t =
care
what they read, just so they read something.  The point is to get them
reading.  Sooner or later they will move on to =91better=92 literature =
if
they are going to be readers.  We can always inform the child, in our
wonderful =91librarian=92 way, the book is abridged and if they really =
like
it someday they might want to read the full version.
=20
Laura Wildey
Director
Union County Public Library

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From: "Glendening, Mary" <GlendeningM@excen.library.phila.gov>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Harry Potter Birthday Party ideas
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:28:05 CDT

I would like to have a B-Day party for HP this summer.  Any ideas for
activities I can include as a part of this would be great. 

Thanks!
Mary Glendening
Free Library of Philadelphia

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From: "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
To: "PUBYAC" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE:Library Cats
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:28:14 CDT


All of our staff would love to have a cat but the allergy issue is too
big, not to mention in this lawsiut happy world, if a patron would get
scratched or bit. Several years ago when we did a tropical theme we did
have a hermit crab, named by vote "crabby" (so original). It was a big
hit. Very unuasual and very low maintaince. The big thing you need to
consider with any library pet is are all the staff going to be willing
to help with it and if not, can it survive when you are off, if you're
the only one taking responsibility.

Linda Peterson
Bloomfield-Eastern Greene County Public Library
125 South Franklin
Bloomfield, Indiana 47424
Phone: (812)384-4125
Fax: (812)384-0820
email: lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us

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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: is it time to canonize cleary?
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:28:23 CDT

this whole illustrated classics thread makes me wonder
what exactly constitutes a "classic"? sure authors put
a lot of work into their creations. maybe some try
harder than others--one assumes that even series
authors agonize to a point. some of the items that we
consider classics today were nothing more than popular
literature when they were originally published. the
three musketeers is a perfect example. dumas wrote for
profit and this book and many others he churned out
were just the 1844 equivalent to star wars or anne
rice.

we have a "classic" genre label that we started using
this year and we've gotten pretty liberal with our
definition and use of the sticker. we put it on things
like "tales of a fourth grade nothing" and "charlie
and the chocolate factory" because we've decided that
our definition of classic is "everyone, given time and
opportunity, should read this book".

what do you guys think?
~j.

=====
~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library

"If an item does not appear in our records, it does not exist."
~ Jocasta Nu (librarian from "Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones")

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From: Melissa Smith <melissa_librarian@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Electronic Learning Devices for Kids (LeapPad)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:28:30 CDT


I am seeking information from libraries that provide electronic learning
devices (LeapPad, Leapster, Isprout...) to their patrons.

Do most libraries purchase the devices and the cartridges?
How much in your collection budget do you allocate for this format?
Where do most libraries circulate this resource? ( Same location as:Media
formats, CD-ROM, DVD...)
Do most libraries circulate the devices or have as a hands-on resource?

Any suggestions (what works/what does not....) would be very helpful.

Thank you in advance,

Melissa Smith
Children's Librarian
CPL
melissa_librarian@yahoo.com

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From: "Flores, Linda" <lflore@camden.lib.nj.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Summer jobs for media specialists?
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:28:39 CDT

How about a job at the public library or at a bookstore like Barnes and
Noble or Borders.

Lin Flores
South County Regional Library
Atco, NJ  08004

lflore@camden.lib.nj.us

-----Original Message-----
From: Paulette Wireman [mailto:wireman@helios.acomp.usf.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 11:14 AM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Summer jobs for media specialists?


When I graduate, hopefully, I will land a job as a school media specialist.
I
was wondering what sort of job I could do in the summer for extra money.
How
common is it for media specialists to work temorarily in summers as a youth
librarian in a public library?  I thought that maybe summers would be busier
since kids are out of school, and there might be a greater need for this
position at that time.  What is your experience with this, and are public
libraries pretty open to allowing a media specialist to do temp work in this
manner?

Thanks!
Paulette

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From: "Stacey Irish-Keffer" <Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Question about neon signs
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:28:47 CDT

We are considering having a special sign designed for our teen area and
like the idea of having it be a neon sign.  However, we are extremely
concerned about several things.  If you have a neon sign in your library
or just have experience with them, please answer the following
questions:

Will the sign make that horrible ZZZZZ-sound? 
Will it interfere with flourescent lights?
Will it cause problems with computers or other types of technology?
How expensive is it to replace burned out bulbs?
Is it worth having?


Thanks for your assistance.
 

Stacey Irish-Keffer
Denton Public Library
502 Oakland
Denton, Texas 76201
940.349.7738
slirish@cityofdenton.com

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From: tzignego@wcfls.lib.wi.us
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Time limit software
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:28:55 CDT

I have a parent looking for software that she can use to set limits on the
amount of time the computer can be used in one visit.  For instance,  child
logs-on at 10:00 a.m. - computer shuts off automatically at noon.
I have heard that some libraries use something like this for their public
Internet computers.  Does anyone know what the software is called or can
recommend software that could be used in a home situation?

Terry Zignego
tzignego@wcfls.lib.wi.us

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From: karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: School visits for summer
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Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:29:03 CDT

We are usually invited to 2 of the 7 schools in our
district, although this year I have contacted all of
the school media specialists in the hope that they can
speak to their principals & we can increase that
figure. We usually address 1 or 2 assemblies so they
are very large groups. We bring along a very large
poster board display that we leave in the school that
has all our prizes, reading record cards, sample
certificate, etc. We explain how to sign up, report,
get prizes, how to participate in our summer book
report magazine, etc. We usually go some time in June;
whenever the schools will have us.  I only read to
them if the group is smaller & more homogeneous.Last
year, I was also invited to a PTA council meeting in
June where I gave flyers & basic "how the summer
reading club works" info to the PTA presidents who
then spoke to their individual units.
--- Sarah Pardi <spardi@nplhub.org> wrote:
>
> hello All
> I'm not sure if this has been discussed lately, but
> I need some ideas for
> school visits to promote our summer reading club. I
> would like to know wh=
> at
> others have done. There are about 10 schools I would
> visit and I want to
> know:=0D
> - How many classes or students do you aim to reach
> per school? do you jus=
> t
> visit a few classrooms?=0D
> - What do you present to the children and for how
> long? Do you just give
> them a run down of what's aviliable to them?=0D
> - When is the best time to visit? I was thinking
> closer to the last day
> would be best, but this may be a crazy time for
> them.=0D
> Thanks!=0D
> =0D
> Sarah Pardi=0D
> Children's Librarian =0D
> Belleville Public Library =0D
> Belleville, NJ, 07109
>


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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: interfiling audiobooks responses---long.
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Hi all! I apologize for not posting this earlier. SRP
prep is giving me hives right now. i still haven't
made a decision on whether to pursue this idea or not
but i really appreciate the reponses. most of them
were in favor. enjoy!
~j.

I am in the process of interfiling my audiobooks-
right now they are shelved BESIDE the adult
audiobooks- and the
circulation has gone through the roof- the only
question is, and this wouldn't
be possible to track in our system, who is checking
them out: adults or
teens?
The nonfiction BOTs and the general Books on CD are
interfiled with the
adult stuff, as I don't have many yet.
Best wishes.  I would be interested in hearing the
responses.
Jennie
--

Our adult area started interfiling audiobooks a couple
of years ago because of space problems. The people who
only want audiobooks don't like it because they want
to have them all in one place. Others who don't care
whether they get audio or paper think it's fine. I
don't think they have done any bibliographies or new
lists, but I think that would be very helpful. I'm
starting to get the cramped feeling on our audiobook
rack and am starting to think about interfiling them.
I know we would have the same problem with people who
only want audiobooks for vacations.



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Judy Looby
Charleston Public Library
Charleston, IL

Hi--

We interfile the audio books in the juvenile and the
young adult
sections.  The thinking behind it was for reluctant
readers, I believe (it
was in place when I got here), as they could listen
and follow along. 
The adult audios are not put with their books, and I
think that brings
about a little confusion, and there are a few patrons
who wish I would
pull them out for their own section.  But for the most
part it works as
is, and I have a booklist that I can hand to patrons
that states all the
audio books and where they are shelved. 

:) ruhama

Ruhama Kordatzky
Youth Services Librarian
Burlington Public Library
rkordatz@burlington.lib.wi.us

We don't keep our audiobooks filed with the books. We
keep them in a separate room - unabridged on shelves,
abridged in bins. They are arranged alphabetically by
author.
We have patrons who commute or work in jobs where they
are allowed to listen to radios or books on tape. They
are responsible for most of our circulation of
audiobooks. They, I'm sure, would be upset if we
interfiled the tapes with the books, since that would
make it more difficult to browse through the tape
collection. Occassionally someone wants a title in any
format. It's easy enough then to check both rooms or
the online catalog to see which format is available.
Peg Siebert
Blodgett Library
Fishkill, NY

Jennifer,

In our library, we interfile only in the YA
department.  This was a
decision
I (as YA librrian) made, because reluctant readers are
more willing to
grab
the audio AND the book at the same time if they're
side by side.  Also,
if
things are not readily accessible to this age group,
they tend to move
on to
something else.  SO I like to keep their collections
together.  Also,
oftentimes teens aren't aware that some books are
avail. on tape/cd,
when
they browse & discover this, they are thrilled!

hope this helps

Denise DiPaolo
Young Adult Librarian
Rogers Memorial Library
91 Coopers Farm Road
Southampton, NY  11968
tel 631 283-0774 x 548

Jennifer,

Some of our branches do this, but I couldn't tell you
if it increased
or
decreased circulation.  The main reason they interfile
the audiobooks
is to
attract people who normally check out just the audio
into checking out
the
text as well.  I don't know how well that works either
as I can never
get a
straight answer from the staff.

I'd be interesting in hearing what you learn.

Thanks!
Sara K Joiner
Children's Coordinator
Brazoria County Library System
131 E. Live Oak
Angleton, TX  77515
979.864.1505
sjoiner@bcls.lib.tx.us

Jennifer-- We just did this 2 weeks ago!  I have been
considering this
move for a year because of the following:
1.  Patrons want the book with the tape and we do not
buy the book with
tape kits (too expensive and we already own most of
the books.  2. 
Patrons want to know what reading/age level the tape
is--all of our tapes
were alphabetical by author but not separated by
reading level (books
are divided by preschool, k-3, 4-8, teen and adult).
3. We were running
out of room.
We now shelve books on tape and books on cd alpha by
author in the
specific reading level.  Nonfiction books on tape and
cd are shelved by
dewey # ie. where the sidewalk ends, Kobi Bryant bio
we don't have a lot
of nonfiction but once we moved it by similar books
they have been
checking out!:) so I'll buy more.   The majority of
people love it! We
haven't been doing it long enough to gather monthly
stats but it seems like
more are circulating and people who are not regular
book on tape
patrons are saying "Hey you have books on tape!"
Apparently, they missed the
entire west wall and large sign hanging from the
ceiling.  Also patrons
have been checking out the in house tape/cd/headphone
player more and
listening in house. The one group of patrons I was
concerned about was
the browsers who did not want books and didn't care
what reading level
it was.  We have a dynix system and we have lists of
new materials by
format patrons can look at ie.  new audiobooks in
April. Also patrons can
search by format however, this is overwhelming in some
cases.  Bless
our catalogers, every book on tape and cd includes the
subject heading
audiobooks.  Monday night I had the question I was
dreading, "Last time I
was here there was a tape I wanted with a horse
picture on the front, I
don't know the author or title but I wanted to look
for it.  Where are
the tapes?"  So I asked was it Black Beauty?  No.  So
I tried a couple
others.  Then in the catalog I did a keyword search on
audiobooks and
horses limited to childrens material and FOUND IT
QUICKLY! It was Mrs.
Mack by Patrica Polocco which I would never have
thought of! Some other
advantages are the matching books are circulating more
especially
Newberys (the tape covers are often better/more
interesting then the book
jacket), patrons are taking several titles by the same
author not just
matching one, and often the book jacket has more
descriptive information
about the book than the tape.  However, beware when
the tapes were over
by themselves people were happy or didn't complain
about what wasn't
there, now patrons are asking "Where's the tape for
this book?" We don't
own it or it hasn't been made into a tape yet.
Finally, I think the
most important thing that made this a successful shift
was that myself
and my staff ALL GOT OUT FROM BEHIND THE DESK and
greeted every patron
that came in the dept. and told them were the audios
had been shifted to
before they asked and offered to help them find the
materials (that's
how we found out a lot of regulars didn't know we had
audiobooks).  So
far 2 people have said they liked it better the other
way, but they
weren't rude and we helped them find tapes.  We did
not make special
bookmarks or bibliographies for audiotapes but that
format is included on
other bookmarks.  If you have any questions email me.
Jennifer McQuilkin
jmcquilkin@joplinpubliclibrary.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:jbaker93711@yjahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:27 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: interfiling audiobooks?

I have done this at thwo branches now, to nothing but
success. The
circs
went up on the audio books tremendously. There were
many comments about
how
they didn't even know we had audio books for kids, to
even a couple
that
didn't even know they existed. Only a couple of people
expressed
concern at
first, and those were more toward the easy picture
books, which we also
interfiled (the book/tape combo packs)

It was a huge hit.
Marijo Kist          Juniper Branch Library
Librarian II         1825 W Union Hills Drive
                     Phoenix, AZ 85027
Jennifer,
We just started doing this a couple of weeks ago.  We
found that the
majority of the kids would like a copy of the book to
look at while
listening to the tape and we were having to go back
and forth to get
them together.  I have had a few browsers say
something about it, but
for the most part the response has been positive.
Also, I have noticed
more going out now, but I have yet to look at the circ
numbers to see
if
that is actually happening.
HTH!
Michele

Hello Jen,
Here in Northlake, Illinois we also ran out of room to
keep our audio
books all by themselves.  Actually, it has worked out
really well for
us.  Of course cassette shows up when we do a search
for a patron, so it
makes finding them a little easier.  Also, since many
of our schools do
accelerated readers the kids are happy to find them
alongside hardcover
books that they can read right along with...and all in
one place.  I
just went over to the shelves and browsed for circ and
I would hazard a
guess that books on tape have gone up a bit, but I
don't remember what
the stats were exactly.  In MHO, it has worked out
really well for us
and freed up much needed shelf space.

Margaret Tassione
tassione@northlakelibrary.org
Northlake, Illinois

Jennifer:

There's no space to be gained from interfiling.  The
shelf space it
takes, overall, remains exactly the same.

What you lose, by interfiling, is the satisfaction of
the people (like
me, at this point in my life, which is retired) of
anyone who just
wants to borrow audiobooks.  That includes the parents
looking for
audiobooks to take on vacation.  Old or new doesn't
matter, so the
place for new stuff does not solve this problem.  I
want to see
everything in one place so I can make choices.

I say this after having tried, about 8 years ago, to
interfile the non-
fiction audiobooks.  I thought it made sense, and that
some would get
better use there.  The person perusing the
biographies, for example,
would also find audiobios that they might not have
thought of.  Didn't
work.  Zillions of complaints.

And now I understand why.  And I can't think why it
would work any
better for children or for young adults.

Mary Jane Anderson
St Joseph, MI



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fresno co. public library

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From: "Natasha Forrester" <nforrester@wpl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Styrofoam craft - compilation
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:29:22 CDT


Thank you for all the craft ideas on how to use the 6"x9" Styrofoam =
inserts from Baker and Taylor:

1.)  I made Snow Flows with them. Using as many as four I glue them =
together then broke edges so it didn't look so square.  With a mixture =
of Ivory Snow powder laundry soap and small amount of water I painted on =
the snow. While snow was still wet I added pine cones to look like =
trees. By adding soap mixture to the pine cone "leaves" it looks like a =
snow covered tree. On a couple I use silver and blue paint to form a =
lake then with a couple brush strokes & snow made it look like a frozen =
lake.  A pair of bears, an elk and the lake on different flows completed =
the scenes.  The animals are hard to find. Those were some plastic
ones I had from who know how long. Our after school craft time let kids =
drop in and paint on "snow", add "trees", a lake and animals as long as =
we had them. Some parents helped and they got impatient with the snow =
not drying as fast as they wanted it to so some of the trees had glue =
added the snow brushed under the "trees".  The trees could be glued and =
painted on and around to make things a little easier. It was a learning =
time for us. The older kids did not have any trouble waiting for the =
"snow" to dry enough to add the trees.

2.)  One idea is to make them into a frame. Cut out the middle and let =
the kids decorate it however you want--paint, decoupage with colored =
paper or tissue paper. Whatever you have will work fine. The other idea =
is more for preschool--let the kids use sponge shapes ( I think they =
have them at Wal-mart or Hobby Lobby?) dipped in paint and stamp onto =
the Styrofoam. They always love doing that.=20

3.)  I have used them for collages. They are good for dimensional =
things, in the fall we glued on buckeyes, nuts, seeds, leaves etc. We've =
also used them for paper collages, we cut them into triangles recently =
and made food pyramids out of them.

4.)  Make a garden w/popsicle stick flowers.  As for making the garden =
"green"--no ideas other than construction paper at this time.  Also, cut =
out the middle and have the kids decorate for picture frames--Mother's =
Day has passed, but Father's Day is fast approaching.

5.)  I intend to use them this summer as the inside protection for my =
kaleidoscope craft.  I'll probably cut or rip them into smaller pieces =
so they'll fit into the spaces.  Sure cheaper than buying Styrofoam =
peanuts which is what the directions suggested.

6.)  Cut out a car shape from the Styrofoam. Poke two holes through it =
near the bottom and insert a short piece cut from a drinking straw. Cut =
four cardboard circles for wheels and pierce them through the middle. =
Attach them to the car by using toothpicks for axles, threading them =
through the straw adding a wheel on either end. Clear? The kids can =
decorate their cars with markers or stickers and then race them down =
propped up books. This is where your oversize books come in handy.  =
Also, you can cut the sheets into shapes and use them for printing.  =
Last, but not least, you can also put Styrofoam in the blender and make =
fake snow. I realize this is the wrong time of year for such a craft, =
but if you don't use up all the sheets before next winter you can use =
the idea then.

7.)  Our neighboring library used them as a base for a mosaic picture. =
They just used snips of construction paper but I guess you could also =
use fun foam. They were really cute.

8.)  My favourite craft with foam is to take 2 sheets of foam and cut =
one into shapes or a picture.  Glue the pieces onto the first piece then =
take some aluminium foil and crinkle it, then smooth it out a little bit =
but still keep it a little bumpy. Smooth it over your foam picture until =
you see the shape of your foam picture.  Finally cover the picture with =
black shoe polish and you will end up with a picture that looks like it =
is pewter. It is great fun and not nearly as hard as it sounds.  The age =
group I had was grade 1.

9.)  Cut out shapes.  Plastic serrated knives will do.  Coat with water =
paint and use as a stamp.  Did several different sized ovals and used as =
Easter eggs.  Cut out your initials or name.   Glue the cut Styrofoam to =
cardboard to last longer.  Remember, if doing letters, must reverse =
them.=20

10.)  You could do some printing with those foam pieces.  A design can =
be etched into the foam with a pencil, pen, the hard end of a =
paintbrush, stylus, etc.   Then the foam is covered in paint, apply a =
piece of paper.  Press or rub on the paper to transfer the paint with =
design to it and voila, a picture! =20

11.)  You could make boats with the squares.  Just a bamboo skewer with =
a paper sail that the kids could decorate....

12.)  They make very good bases for 3D design projects.  We used them =
for a 3D design project where the kids designed their own fountains =
using Styrofoam bases, pipe cleaners, beads, feathers, etc!  It tied in =
nicely with the One Book New Jersey book for 2-5th graders "Regarding =
the Fountain".


Natasha Forrester, Children's Services Librarian
Winfield Public Library
605 College  Winfield, KS 67156
(620) 221-4470

"When in doubt, go to the library."=20
~ Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, J.K. Rowling

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