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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1134


    PUBYAC Digest 1134

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Celebration of 50 years...
by Sharon Castanteen <scastanteen@yahoo.com>
  2) RE: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUBYAC!
by "Susan Dailey" <obldailey@wellscolibrary.org>
  3) Book help thanks!
by N Korsavidis <nkorsavidis@yahoo.com>
  4) Stumper - "Yum yummy" poem
by "Troy and Nicole Morgan" <trikki@sbcglobal.net>
  5) Re: Reading HP outloud
by "Tamar Wolfe" <lobolocomal@hotmail.com>
  6) Re: Dr. Seuss Program
by "Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net>
  7) Recommendation for discussion groups
by Kerry Reed <kreed@wpld.alibrary.com>
  8) Stumper
by Kerry Reed <kreed@wpld.alibrary.com>
  9) RE: Dr. Seuss Program
by Carrie Silberman <csilberman@nysoclib.org>
 10) CD storage
by Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
 11) BABY FOOD JARS
by Mary Ryan <mryan@noblenet.org>
 12) Book on grieving & stepparenting
by "Janice L. Lyhane" <janicel_1@charter.net>
 13) Thanks for neon sign info and compilation (long)
by "Stacey Irish-Keffer" <Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com>

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From: Sharon Castanteen <scastanteen@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Celebration of 50 years...
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:11:17 CDT


My library is celebrating it's 50th anniversary.  Any suggestions for a
children's celebration?  Performer?  Party?  Events? Activities?
I thank you all in advance.....Sharon


Sharon Castanteen
Director of Children's Services
River Edge Public Library
River Edge, NJ  07661
scastanteen@yahoo.com

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From: "Susan Dailey" <obldailey@wellscolibrary.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUBYAC!
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A related question--How do you pronounce PUBYAC?

Susan Dailey

[Moderator:  PUB (as in 'let's go to the pub') and YAC ( as in 'a yak is
also a gnu' or 'he yacks on the phone a lot').  --Shannon]

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From: N Korsavidis <nkorsavidis@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Book help thanks!
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:11:34 CDT


The bear that interrupts, is in fact The Bravest Ever
Bear by Allan Ahlberg. Thanks for the help!!

Natalie

=====
Natalie Korsavidis
Youth Services Librarian
Farmingdale Public Library

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From: "Troy and Nicole Morgan" <trikki@sbcglobal.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper - "Yum yummy" poem
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Hi all,
A patron is looking for a book of poetry that she remembers from her
childhood in the 50's or early 60's, although it could have been published
earlier.  She remembers one line from one of the poems as "Yum Yummy, Yum
Yummy...[??]...We're all going down to visit Sally's tummy", about eggs and
other food items.  There were simple illustrations, possibly pen and ink,
that were "very charming" and probably printed in black and white. She
remembers the book being very "quaint", with funny and "enchanting" poems.
She said that this particular book was very popular with both her siblings
and her classmates.  Sounds almost like a pre-Shel Silverstein.

I am not familiar with this book and have exhausted my resources (except
this one!) I've checked index of children's poetry, first line index, and
our catalog, as well as multiple internet sites.

Any ideas?  Please forward them to me at listmessages@sbcglobal.net.  ALso
please feel free to add any searching tips for poetry - databases, etc -
that I can use in the future.  Thanks!
Nicole Morgan
Lakewood Public Library

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From: "Tamar Wolfe" <lobolocomal@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Reading HP outloud
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:11:53 CDT

I find it difficult to believe there would be performance rights.   Aren't
we already reading books in a public place in our regular programs?


>From: Martha Jackson <mjackson@bel-tib-lib.org>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: Re: Reading HP outloud
>Date: Mon,  9 Jun 2003 16:27:16 CDT
>
>Dear Carol,
>
>I don't know about public performance rights (though that seems unlikely),
>but I tried this 2 years ago at my bookstore (started reading book 4 at the
>stroke of midnight on the night it went onsale) and only got about 2
>paragraphs into it before people started complaining that they wanted to
>read
>it themselves!!
>They didn't mind hearing the opening sentences but after that didn't want
>any
>plot points revealed-all agreed it was very important to read it
>themselves!
>Just my experience, maybe a library setting would be different!
>
>Martha
>
>
>
>Carol Barcus wrote:
>
> > I recently read the posting of a library that is doing a midnight
>reading
> > of the new HP.  I had wanted to do that too, but was told that it would
> > violate public performance rights.  Is that true?
> > //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//
> > *   **  **  **   **   **  **   **   **  **  **   **  **   *
> > Carol Barcus
> > Huron Public Library
> > 333 Williams Street
> > Huron, OH  44839
> > tel (419)433-5009
> > fax (419)433-7228
> >
> > email: barcusca@oplin.lib.oh.us
>

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From: "Carol and Gary Levin" <cglevin@access4less.net>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Dr. Seuss Program
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:12:00 CDT


For everyone who likes to plan ahead... I just heard that 2004 is the =
100th anniversary of Dr. Seuss's birth and Random House plans to make a =
very big deal about it!
Carol Levin
Enjoy Life! This is not a Dress Rehearsal!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: linda allen=20
  To: pubyac@prairienet.org=20
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:28 PM
  Subject: Dr. Seuss Program


  I have done several  Dr. Seuss Birthday Parties for all ages. One =
activity preschoolers would like is acting out I Wish that I had Duck =
Feet using props. Explain to them that Dr. Seuss wrote this book using a =
different name. I choose some volunteers to stand in front of the group =
while I read the story and give each volunteer the appropriate prop to =
put on: duck feet-swimming flippers, antlers-I happen to have real deer =
antlers but could make some out of cardboard and attach to headband, =
elephant trunk-stuffed gray sock, tail-necktie, whale spout-hat made out =
of butcher paper.

  Linda Allen, Monroe Public Library, Monroe WA


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From: Kerry Reed <kreed@wpld.alibrary.com>
To: "Childlit http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mjoseph/childlit/about.html"
Subject: Recommendation for discussion groups
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:12:09 CDT

I just finished a discussion of Lasky's _Star Split_ with my book group
for fifth grade and up.  If you are in search of a science fiction book
to read and discuss with your kids, I highly recommend this one.  There
are some pretty big themes like genetic engineering, scientific
morality, social classes and more.  All rather timely.  Lasky does a
good job tackling and exploring these themes. However, her writing here
does lack a bit.  My kids felt little emotional attachment to the
characters and some choppiness in the style.  (I am big on helping the
kids discern writing styles.)
It is a fairly quick read, and I would happy to send anyone the
questions I composed for the discussion.

Have a great summer,

--
Kerry Reed
Youth Services Librarian
Winnetka-Northfield Public Library District
KReed@wpld.alibrary.com
847/446-7220

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From: Kerry Reed <kreed@wpld.alibrary.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:12:17 CDT

Does anyone recognize this?
My patron is looking for a picture book with fairly simple pictures and
whose text has a human mother expressing love for her daughter in
comparative terms, for example, " I love you more than the moon".  The
patron remembers a rainbow and outdoor scenes.  She also believes that
the book is between 3 and 10 years old.  We have checked A to Zoo, and
know that it is /not/ _Guess how much I love you_, or _Love you
forever_.  Any and all help is appreciated.  Thanks.

--
Kerry Reed
Youth Services Librarian
Winnetka-Northfield Public Library District
KReed@wpld.alibrary.com
847/446-7220

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From: Carrie Silberman <csilberman@nysoclib.org>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Dr. Seuss Program
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:12:26 CDT


A storyteller who performed at my library did a very fun/interactive version
of "Green Eggs and Ham," which I have since replicated myself.


She had props for the different places, i.e., house, box, tree, boat, car,
etc. where Sam would not eat Green Eggs and Ham.

When she mentioned a place, a child held up his prop/picture.  Since there
is a lot of repitition, the children were constantly listening for their
"place" to be called.  She even had illustrations of two thumbs for "here"
or "there," which everyone found particularly funny.  When I read the story
this year, I made color copies of the different objects and mounted them on
construction paper.



I also like to read "My Many Colored Days" for preschool age since the kids
can identify the colors and objects/animals.  "Mr. Brown Can Moo" is also
very interactive.



Carrie Silberman, Children's Library

New York Society Library

carrie@nysoclib.org

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From: Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: CD storage
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:12:35 CDT

We have CD's and CD-Roms in those plastic security cages.  I don't think
there -is- anything that works well.

The adult dept has them on shelves, where they fall down and get totally out
of place and it's really hard to read the teeny tiny spines.

The children's dept (us) has them in specially made drawers, facing front,
where they fall down and get totally out of place, but where the labels are
easy to read.  They are also very noisy as people flip through them--clack,
clack, clack.

Anyone for a rousing chorus of, "We can put a man on the moon, but we
can't..."??


Bonita

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From: Mary Ryan <mryan@noblenet.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: BABY FOOD JARS
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Does anyone know of a simple craft to do with baby food jars.  We have bags
of them and would like to use them this summer in our craft program.  It
needs to be easy so that all ages can do it.

You can e-mail me directly at mryan@noblenet.org

Thanks.
Mary Ryan

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From: "Janice L. Lyhane" <janicel_1@charter.net>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Book on grieving & stepparenting
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:12:56 CDT

We have a patron who is looking for a book to help them be a stepparent =
to an adult stepchild who is still grieving for their parent who died.  =
The books we have found pertain to minor children and so the advice is =
not relevant.  Please send any title suggestions to =
janicel_1@charter.net=20

Thank you.

Janice Lyhane

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From: "Stacey Irish-Keffer" <Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Thanks for neon sign info and compilation (long)
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:13:05 CDT

Thanks to everyone who responded to my query about neon signs. Most
people have not had problems with their signs interfering with
computers, lights, or equipment, or even making that annoying buzzing
sound.  The only concerns seem to be with wiring the sign to begin with.
 If you are remodeling or building, you should let your architects and
designers know right away you want this type of sign so they can work it
into the construction plans.  We are in the process of adding our sign
to our nearly finished building and this seems to be a difficult thing
to add after the fact.  Once again, thanks for all your responses and
good luck to those of you interested in neon, too!





===== Original Message From "Stacey Irish-Keffer"
<Stacey.Irish-Keffer@cityofdenton.com> =====
> If you have a neon sign in your library
>or just have experience with them, please answer the following
>questions:
>
>Will the sign make that horrible ZZZZZ-sound?
>Will it interfere with flourescent lights?
>Will it cause problems with computers or other types of technology?
>How expensive is it to replace burned out bulbs?
>Is it worth having?

Stacey:
We have a large neon sign mounted on a wall in our new branch library.
It does
not make any annoying noises that I have noticed.  It doesn't seem to
interfere with our ceiling lights, either the canned ones or the
flourescent. 
It doesn't cause any trouble with our computers or printers, and our
sign is
directly above a row of 3 computers and a printer.  I don't know about

replacing the bulbs; we have been open for 7 months and it hasn't gone
out
yet!  We like it a lot; it is a great attention grabber and the kids
think it
is cool.

Lise Tewes



Hi!  I have 2 pieces of neon art in my YA area - not signs but same
difference. 

- they make no noise whatsoever
- I had to work with our electrician to make sure they did not
interfere
with our fire detection system - if you are prepared for this ahead of
time any problems can be avoided.
- according to the artist I bought from neon has an incredibly long
life
and should never have to be replaced.  FOr example the work I bought
is
jellyfish and the "tentacles" are neon and they will never need to be
replaced.
- neon also uses a very low amount of voltage
- the neon we bought totaled $5000.00 - $2500.00 a piece.  The Friends
paud for one and then I got the local arts council to match that amount
so
we could buy 2!

Good luck!  Hope it helps!

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Erin V. Helmrich, M.L.S.
Youth/Teen Services Librarian
Royal Oak Public Library
222 East 11 Mile Rd. 
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
PHONE: 248.246.3734
FAX:   248.246.3705
EMAIL: helmrich@tln.org  
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Stacey,

We have a neon sign in our TeenZone and there are absolutely no
problems with it at all.  So far, anyway.

Cindi Carey
Lacey, Washington



We have had one in our teen area for a couple of years.  I doesn't make
any sound or interfere with the lights or computers.  We haven't had to
replace anything except when the construction workers broke it, & then
they paid for it.  It is bright blue, mounted on clear acrylic, and
hangs from the ceiling at the edge of our teen area.  It is definitely
worth having.  I (the Youth Services Librarian) am located at the
oposite end of our long, narrow library; it is priceless to be able to
tell someone that, to find a YA book, they go under the neon sign and
turn right.  We were able to purchase it with grant funding.  Our sign
may be seen in Kim Taney's _Teen Spaces_ book, or on her book's
accompanying website through ALA.

Connie VanSwol
Chicago Ridge Public Library


Hi -
We have a 9 ft neon sign that reads TeenZone. You can see a picture of
it on our teen page http://www.ci.benicia.ca.us/ya/teens.html .

It hasn't caused any of the problems you mentioned and I think it was
worth the expense. We don't have a separate room for teens, we just use
shelves to distinguish the TeenZone, so the space needed something to
give it presence. We also worked with a local company, the National Neon
Institute, and they were quite helpful. They don't install the signs but
they brought it over and helped hang it. This sign was a custom job,
designed by my supervisor, Nicole Reader. It ended up costing about
850$. The Friends of the Library paid for it.

The only problem we've had with the sign has to do with the wiring of
the transformers. The red writing sometimes doesn't come on until you
turn the switch on and off five times. The city maintenance man wasn't
thrilled with having to hang and wire this thing so I'm hesitant to ask
him to check the wiring for that one transformer! We've only had the
sign up since February but the guys who made it said it should be
trouble free for 10 years. I guess the bulbs don't burn out. Gary Mann
at National Neon has explained this to me about a million times but I
don't exactly remember how it all works. By the way, he's very nice and
loves to talk about neon. I'm sure he'd answer questions for you. His
e-mail is neonschl@pacbell.net and his phone number is 800-626-4217.
They have a web site too www.neonschool.com.

Good luck,
Kate Brown
Teen Services Librarian
Benicia Public Library
 




>


Stacey Irish-Keffer
Denton Public Library
502 Oakland
Denton, Texas 76201
940.349.7738
slirish@cityofdenton.com

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