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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1135
PUBYAC Digest 1135
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: BABY FOOD JARS
by "Tamar Wolfe" <lobolocomal@hotmail.com>
2) STUMPER SONG CLUES
by Molly Meyers <mmeyers@worthingtonlibraries.org>
3) Animal Databases
by Allison Peters <apeters@jefferson.lib.co.us>
4) BIB Request: Saying goodbye
by Rebecca Smith <read2yourbunny@yahoo.com>
5) Library mascot?
by Osei Baffour <obaffour@dallaslibrary.org>
6) Harry Potter advance readings
by Robbie Flowers <Robbie@rhpl.org>
7) Mr. Pudgins Stumper Answered
by Nancy Opalko <n_opalko@yahoo.com>
8) Re: BABY FOOD JARS
by LibraryLadyDAC@aol.com
9) stumper
by "Maggie Snow" <msnow@carverlib.org>
10) Re: getting back in the library biz--thanks!
by DRDandRJP@aol.com
11) Help! Books on Gender?
by "Katrina Neville" <KatrinaN@moval.org>
12) Call for submissions: Public Libraries theme issue on literacy
by Librenee@aol.com
13) Backwards Day - long
by "Austin, Renee" <RAUSTIN@co.napa.ca.us>
14) Re: BABY FOOD JARS
by Mildred Bernstein <tomildred@yahoo.com>
15) Re: Getting back in the library biz
by Suzanne Klein <SKlein@EBPL.org>
16) Re: BABY FOOD JARS
by "Glenice Molter" <slo_glenice@stls.org>
17) Puppet shows!
by "Lillian Mack" <librarylil_66@hotmail.com>
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From: "Tamar Wolfe" <lobolocomal@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
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From: Molly Meyers <mmeyers@worthingtonlibraries.org>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
<PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER SONG CLUES
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:58:41 CDT
Hello Everyone,
This is my first list call for help.
I had a patron come in today who is performing a song "Just One More
Book"
that came from a Tom Pease CD Wobbi-Do-Wop! The song has clues about
actual
books. The only problem is we cannot figure out the clues. They are
supposed to be well known books but I am drawing a blank. The CD was made
in 1994.
1. Lions and tigers get loose from their cage. (We have a few guesses but
none seem right)
2. Grandmas and Grandpas refuse to act their age.
3. Cat wants a back-rub.
4. Dog with the giant fleas.
Hmmm. Please respond to me off the list and I will post the answers for
everyone to see.
Thank you
Molly Meyers
Children's Librarian
Worthington Public Libraries
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From: Allison Peters <apeters@jefferson.lib.co.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Animal Databases
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Hi there and thanks ahead of time for all the wonderful help you will offer!
We are looking for a database that has information about all kinds of
animals. We don't mind receiving it on a subscription basis. Please
let me
know if you have any suggestions at this address:
apeters@jefferson.lib.co.us
Thank you!
Allison Peters
Children's Services Librarian
Belmar Library
Jefferson County Public Library
555 S. Allison Parkway
Lakewood City Commons
Lakewood, CO 80226
phone (720) 963-0900 ext. 2
apeters@jefferson.lib.co.us
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From: Rebecca Smith <read2yourbunny@yahoo.com>
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Subject: BIB Request: Saying goodbye
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:58:57 CDT
I'm still hoping for more suggestions on books
about saying goodbye to help kids (pre-K
especially) go their separate ways at the end of
the school year. The books don't have to be about
school per se, just so long as they are not about
death or moving, which seems to be the subject of
most goodbye books.
Thanks again for your assistance!
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Rebecca Verrill Smith
Lesley Ellis School Library
read2yourbunny@yahoo.com
"It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are,
far more than our abilities."
--Albus Dumbledore ( J.K. Rowling)
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From: Osei Baffour <obaffour@dallaslibrary.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Library mascot?
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Hello:
Has any library tried using a mascot to represent their library during
community events? If so what creature or thing did you use to represent the
library? If you have never done this but think it is a creative idea to
try
what would you use?
Please advise.
Osei
Osei Akoto Baffour, Manager
Martin Luther King, Jr. Branch Library
2922 Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard, Building C
Dallas, Texas 75215
Telephone: (214) 671-0624
"What's worth doing is worth doing well".
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From: Robbie Flowers <Robbie@rhpl.org>
To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: Harry Potter advance readings
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First, I'd just like to say hello because this is my first post to the
listserv. In regard to reading the new HP, Salt Lake City's Library had some
sanctions against them as to exactly what time they can begin their
readings. Those considering a similar program may want to check out
www.sltrib.com/2003/Jun/06102003/utah/64663.asp
to make sure they are
violating any agreements with Scholastic. Hope this helps...
Robbie L. Flowers
Youth Services Librarian
Rochester Hills Public Library
500 Olde Towne Road
Rochester, MI 48307-2043
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From: Nancy Opalko <n_opalko@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Mr. Pudgins Stumper Answered
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:59:23 CDT
I just want to thank all the people who responded to
the wacky babysitter stumper. It was Mr. Pudgins by
Ruth Christoffer Carlsen. Thanks! N.>
__________________________________
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Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
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From: LibraryLadyDAC@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: BABY FOOD JARS
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I would suggest planting some type of seed/s in potting soil. The clear
jar
would be great for viewing the developing root system! Good luck!
Denise Connelly
Marshall District Library
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From: "Maggie Snow" <msnow@carverlib.org>
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Subject: stumper
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:59:39 CDT
I have a patron looking for a book from her childhood about a girl named
Guinevere or Genevieve who refuses to go to bed. The doctor tells her
she must go to be an hour earlier each night. So, in time she is going
to be at 8:00am.
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Thanks for your help!
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Maggie
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Maggie Snow, Branch Manager
Watertown Public Library
Watertown, MN=20
952-955-2939
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From: DRDandRJP@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: getting back in the library biz--thanks!
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Dear everybody,
Thanks so much for all the advice on getting back into librarianship. I
received many recommendations that I brush up those computer skills and that
I
start volunteering (I've already done a bit with both of these ideas, but I
shall
do more), and I will take those suggestions and your many other ideas to
heart.
Thanks again for all the support!
Wishing I could personally help all of you prepare for your summer reading
programs,
Robbin Price, once and future children's librarian
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From: "Katrina Neville" <KatrinaN@moval.org>
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Subject: Help! Books on Gender?
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Hi all,
I'm looking for books that discuss basic gender differences at a =
preschool level -- kind of a "this is what makes boys and girls =
different" including bodies, etc. I've checked A to Zoo and
(horrors!!) =
Amazon, but don't see anything that quite meets my patron's needs. I =
think something on the level of the "Once Upon a Potty" boys vs. girls
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is about what I'm looking for.=20
Please respond directly (katrinan@moval.org)
as I do not subscribe to =
the list. If I have any requests to post results, I will gladly do so!
Thanks for your help,
Katrina
Katrina Neville
Children's Librarian
City of Moreno Valley
25480 Alessandro Blvd.
Moreno Valley, CA 92553
t: 909-413-3880
f: 909-247-8346
e: katrinan@moval.org=20
w: www.moreno-valley.ca.us=20
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From: Librenee@aol.com
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Public Libraries Theme Issue on Literacy
The fourth annual Public Libraries theme issue, scheduled for=20
January/February 2004, will focus on literacy. As part of PLA's goal to
esta=
blish a literate=20
nation, this issue will explore the themes of emergent literacy and
literacy=
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initiatives of all types. Librarians and researchers with experience in
this=
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area are invited to submit manuscripts to be considered for the special
issu=
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See Public Libraries' "Instructions to Authors" in the
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From: "Austin, Renee" <RAUSTIN@co.napa.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
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Subject: Backwards Day - long
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Thank you again to all those people who sent me ideas for poetry and
fingerplays for Backwards Storytime. In addition to the ideas below, I have
written a version of the Three Bears, called The Bears Three to tell as a
felt board story.
I sent the info once, but didn't realize that we couldn't send attachments.
It's long but good!
Sample program
Before the program, prepare the room by turning as many objects as possible
upside down, backwards or inside out. Advertise that the kids should come
wearing clothing backwards. Wear your own clothing or hair in some wacky
way.
Greetings: Good-bye. Come again soon! Walk in backwards!
Fingerplay: Shut Them, Open Them
Game: Ask the children to identify everything in the room that is
backwards,
inside out, or upside down. That includes what they are wearing, too.
Flannel or Poem: "If Grannies Were Cats" by Leigh Rutledge from
"If People
Were Cats"
Book: "Dogzilla" by Dav Pilkey
Book: "The Stupids Die" by Harry Allard
Fingerplay: "Two Little Blackbirds" by Rob Reid from "Family
Storytime"
Poems: "Fractured Nursery Rhymes" by Bruce Lansky
Book: "Birthday Happy, Contrary Mary" by Anita Jeram
Book: "Silly Sally" by Audrey Wood
Game: Simon Says Opposites. Do the opposite of what "It" says
when It
says "Simon Says."
Poem "Backwards Bill" by Shel Silverstein
Craft: Wacky Animal Craft. Cut in half pictures of animals from
magazines.
Ask the children to create wacky animals by pasting different halves
together on top of construction paper. Ask the kids to name their new
animals, too, e.g., frogalope or the speedy.
Game: Backwards Slow Mosey. Before the program starts, place 2 strips of
masking tape on the floor for the starting line and finish line. Put the
finish line close to the door. Tell the children that they are to line up
with their backs to the finish line and when you give a signal, they will
start walking backwards, toe to heel with each step, as slowly as possible.
The winner of this mosey is the LAST person to reach the finish line. They
do not have to travel in a straight line to the finish. They could walk to
the window, then to pick up their craft, etc. Give the winner the
leftover
fixings for more wacky animal crafts.
Farewells: Hi! So good to see you! How nice of you to come!
I also had the children enter the room backwards and wear their clothing
upside down. Our craft was an accucut doll with clothing backwards. Hope
this helps.
Foolish Frog (FS)
Bread and Honey (Flannelboard) from book by Frank Asch.
Silly Sally (Wood)
Pig's Picnic (Kasza)
Cow that Went Oink
Changes (Video)
Tangle Town (Cyrus)
Imogene's Antlers (Small)
Tell Goldilocks and the Three Bears Backwards
Round Trip by Ann Jonas? The family goes on a trip and when the book is
inverted, the reader sees the return trip. Also Douglas Florian did Summer
Day and Winter Day,
Why don't you try doing some of your familiar fingerplays backwards, ie. add
monkeys to the bed, etc.
poem Backwards Bill by Shel Silverstein in "Where the Sidewalk Ends".
Draw and Tell by Thompson, the story William and Warble has to be turned
upside down at the end so you can see what hatched from the egg.
song:
I am slowly going crazy
1,2,3,4,5,6 switch.
Crazy going slowly am I,
6,5,4,3,2,1 switch.
I am slowly going crazy...
(sing up the scale on lines 1 and 2 and down the scale on 3 and 4)
Also for a feltboard story, how about "Peace and Quiet"--the old woman
tells
the man to bring the animals into the house and then take them BACK outside
again.
Backwards and Upside Down Storytime
(revised 3/03)
Books:
Brouillard. Three Topsy-Turvy Tales (T,PS)
Carle. Mixed Up Chameleon
Denim. Make Way for Dumb Bunnies
Do Your Ears Hang Low? (C collection ace)
Hort. Seals on the Bus (T,PS)
Jeram. Contrary Mary (T,PS)
Johnson. Who's Upside Down?
Jonas. Round Trip (PS,K)
Kasza. Pigs' Picnic
King. Henry and Amy (PS,K)
Lobel. Turnaround Wind (K)
Most. The Cow That Went Oink
Munro. Inside Outside Book of Libraries (K up)
Raschka. Yo! Yes? (read backwards)
Root . Turnover Tuesday (T,PS)
Sewell. The World Turned Upside Down
Simon. Topsy-Turvies
Small. Imogene's Antlers
Stevens. Tops and Bottoms (K)
Wood. Silly Sally (big book) (sing it) (T,PS)
Flannels
Max's New Suit (ehm)
Jack and Jill (upside-down) or any favorite told upside down
Puppets
Alligator
Possum
Miss Spider puppet
Joke
How do you catch a monkey?
Hang upside down in a tree and pretend you're a banana! (with
banana)
Fingerplays / Action Rhymes
Backward Town
The folks who live in backward town
Are inside out and upside down.
They wear their hats inside their heads
And go to sleep beneath their beds.
They only eat the apple peeling
And take their walks across the ceiling.
(from The Llama Who Had No Pajama by Mary Ann Hoberman--p45)
Get Very Big, Get Very Small
Get very big, get very small,
Spin in a circle but try not to fall.
Do a dance across the floor.
Close your eyes and count to four.
Spread your feet, look upside down.
Make a silly face and act like a clown.
Hop like a bunny, flap like a bird,
Quiet as a mouse now...Don't say a word.
Lean to the Front
Lean to the front, lean to the back,
Stand up, sit down, clap, clap, clap.
Lean to the left, lean to the right,
Stand up, sit down, say "Good night!"
Lean toward the window, lean toward the door,
Stand up, sit down, give a big "SNORE!"
Songs
Put Your Thumb in the Air (tune: If You're Happy and You Know It)
Put your thumb in the air, in the air. Stick your stomach out to
here, out to here
Put your thumb in the air, in the air. Stick your stomach out to
here, out to here
Put your thumb in the air, Stick your stomach out to
here
And swing it over there, Then shake your
little rear,
Put your thumb in the air, in the air. Stick your stomach out to
here, out to here.
Put your elbow on the floor, on the floor,
...and wave at the door...
Put your shoe on your head...
...now it's time to go to bed...
Row Row Row Your Boat
Row, row, row your boat, Row, row, row your boat,
Backward down the stream. Backward down the stream.
Ha, ha! Fooled you! And if you see an alligator,
I'm a submarine. Don't forget to scream!
Hang Your Head Over (tune: Down in the Valley)
Down in the valley,
The valley so low.
Hang your head over
And suck your big toe.
Suck your big toe, dear.
Suck your big toe.
Hang your head over
And suck your big toe.
My Foot Waves Hello (tune: Farmer in the Dell)
My foot waves hello, My hands do a dance,
My foot waves hello, My hands do a dance,
Every time I see a friend, Every time I hear a song,
My foot waves hello. My hands do a dance.
Here We Go (tune: Looby Loo)
Here we go walking slow (walk backward) Here we go up, up, up;
Here we go walking fast Here we go down, down, down;
Here we go walking round and round Here we spin around and
around;
Round the block and back (sit down) Until we fall down on the
ground.
The Great Big Yellow Spider
The great big yellow spider
Climbed down the water spout.
Up sprayed the rain and pushed the spider up.
Down went the sun, and down came lots more rain,
And the great big yellow spider,
She floated home again.
Spider Bitsy Itsy
Spider bitsy itsy the
Spout water the up climbed.
Out spider the washed and rain the came down.
Rain the all up dried and sun the came out
Again spout the up climbed spider bitsy itsy the and.
The Penny Whistle Party Planner by Meredith Brokaw & Annie Gilbar for ideas
Activities:
Change the room arrangement around
Have the kids walk into the storytime area backwards.
Read a book backwards (if you can). Read a book upside down
Write the kids' names on a nametag backwards and stick it to their backs.
Coming into the story room and saying "Good-bye everyone!"
"hello!" when
leaving
Showing a film backwards (Works only w/ projectors, not videos!)
Telling a simple story (Goldilocks, Red Riding Hood) in reverse order
("Once
upon a time, Goldilocks jumped out of the window, away from the three bears)
Wear clothes backwards or inside out. Encourage parents, kids and staff to
do so too.
Start with your closing song/end with your opening song
pick up a book and start reading it and then tell them that you've changed
your mind and start a different book. (Make sure to tell everyone
before
you get started that if they have never been to storytime before, this in
not the way we usually do things.)
BACKWARDS DAY
Explore "backwards". Try a backwards day. What can you wear backwards?
You
can wear a hat, shirt, or pants backward. What else can be worn backwards?
Can shoes be worn backwards? What are some reasons we don't spend our lives
walking backwards? What would life be like if we had to walk backward?
~Have the children can wear a piece of clothing backwards.
~Have the children walk backwards around the room.
~Have the children drive their toy cars backwards.
~Have the children eat breakfast for lunch.
~Have the children rearrange schedule so last thing is first and first is
last!
~Have the children teach the teacher a craft.
~Have the children eat snack UNDER the table (they LOVE this one).
This is sung to the tune of "The Bear Went Over the Mountain"
Silly Sally walked backward (children walk around the room/area
backward)
Silly Sally walked backward
Silly Sally walked backward
On the way to town
Other verses:
-Silly pig danced a jig backward
-Silly dog played leapfrog backward (make this an individual
activity instead of having kids actually try to play the game
with others)
-Silly loon sang a tune backward
-Silly sheep went to sleep backward. (sing quietly)
-Tickle yourself walking backward
Tickle yourself walking backward
Tickle yourself walking backward
You're all in town. Sit Down!
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From: Mildred Bernstein <tomildred@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: BABY FOOD JARS
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:00:25 CDT
For mother's day, the daycare provider made a sachet with them. She put
toole in the bottom and added potpourri. She topped them with a doily
that
had holes punched in it and glued ribbon as a decoration. It was quite
lovely.
I have also tried to make snow globes using a babyfood jar. Glue a figure
(like a small plastic animal) to the inside of the lid. Add glitter and
water and put the cover on it. Also a nice craft and really simple.
Try it
out with different glitter..I found that some stuck together.
Good luck
Mildred Bernstein
Mary Ryan <mryan@noblenet.org>
wrote:
Does anyone know of a simple craft to do with baby food jars. We have bags
of them and would like to use them this summer in our craft program. It
needs to be easy so that all ages can do it.
You can e-mail me directly at mryan@noblenet.org
Thanks.
Mary Ryan
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From: Suzanne Klein <SKlein@EBPL.org>
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Hey there!
While this is not exactly what people who are preparing to get "back in the
biz" may be looking for, I wanted to let you all know that I just found out
about a new Yahoo group for librarians who are stay-at-home parents. Yahoo
states: "This is a group for librarians that are currently stay at home
parents. The purpose of this yahoo group is to share career tips
such as
how to keep active in the profession or work from home.
Additionally,
discussion covers parenting and household management tips."
It can be accessed at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/librariansahm/
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/librariansahm/>
Best wishes!
-- Suzanne
Suzanne M. Klein
Youth Services Librarian
East Brunswick Public Library
2 Jean Walling Civic Center
East Brunswick NJ 08816
Phone: (732) 390 6789
Fax: (732) 390 6796
E-mail: sklein@ebpl.org
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From: "Glenice Molter" <slo_glenice@stls.org>
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Subject: Re: BABY FOOD JARS
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You can use them to make snow globes. FIll the jar with water and a few=
drops of food coloring (if desired). Hot glue some kind of flower
or=
other ornament on the inside of the lid (I did this at Christmastime and=
glued Santas and Christmas trees). Add a few drops of glycerin (you
will=
have to experiment to get the right consistency) and glitter. Screw
the=
lid on tightly and turn over. The glitter will slowly trickle down
and=
settle on the bottom.
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On 6/10/03 at 4:12 PM Mary Ryan wrote:
>Does anyone know of a simple craft to do with baby food jars. We have
>bags
>of them and would like to use them this summer in our craft program.
It
>needs to be easy so that all ages can do it.
>
>You can e-mail me directly at mryan@noblenet.org
>
>Thanks.
>Mary Ryan
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From: "Lillian Mack" <librarylil_66@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Puppet shows!
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:00:50 CDT
Hi everyone,
After reading lots of your comments about programming to/for daycares we
have decided to add a program to our line-up. We are expecting lots of
daycare kids and don't think a regular storytime will be effective. We
would like to do at least one puppet show a month. We have books like One
person puppet shows, but we need more ideas. We have lots more animal
puppets than people puppets.
Does anyone have good scripts adapted from picture books for puppet shows?
Any ideas of good books that WE could adapt? Any good internet site with
scripts?
Like I said we would like to focus on animals, things like Zoos, Farms, or
any others really.
Thanks in advanced!!
Lillian Mack
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