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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1145
PUBYAC Digest 1145
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: B-I-N-G-O puppet
by "Wanda Jones" <wjones98@hotmail.com>
2) Electronic Games
by Kim Olson-Kopp <k.olson-kopp@lacrosse.lib.wi.us>
3) RE: reducing hours your library is open???
by "Lori Karns" <lkarns@rain.org>
4) Re: reducing hours your library is open???
by "Sue Kilmer" <skilmer@yukon.lib.ok.us>
5) RE: Silly Putty Help!
by Paula Gilmour <PGilmour@plainfield.lib.in.us>
6) Library treasure hunt
by Greg Ullman <gullman@ci.covina.ca.us>
7) re: Silly Putty Help!
by Jill Dempsey <jdempsey@kenton.lib.ky.us>
8) Re: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
by "Kidstaff" <KIDSTAFF@mx.tol.lib.ca.us>
9) RE: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
by "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.org>
10) Re: reducing hours your library is open???
by Susan Wizinsky <swizinsk@gfn.org>
11) Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
by karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
12) Library cards and divorced parents
by Marilyn Robinson <fcplchildren@yahoo.com>
13) Weird Rumor
by Susan Wizinsky <swizinsk@gfn.org>
14) Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
15) Newbery Contenders?
by Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
16) Fees for services; apologies for duplicate list postings
by Jeannie Kunzinger <jkunzing@leaguecitylibrary.org>
17) A big thank you
by "Diana Cook" <dcook@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
18) Re: reducing hours your library is open???
by j b <jhsampson991@yahoo.com>
19) RE: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
by "Monica Anderson" <m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us>
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From: "Wanda Jones" <wjones98@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: B-I-N-G-O puppet
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:38:18 CDT
Hi,
Amazon.com has order information and used copies. "Where is Thumbkin?"
is
the title of the
CD and its produced by Kimbo Educational. Pam Schiller and Thomas Moore are
the artists.
Wanda
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From: Kim Olson-Kopp <k.olson-kopp@lacrosse.lib.wi.us>
To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Electronic Games
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:38:26 CDT
Hi,
I'm sorry if this one's been asked recently, but here goes... Do any of
you check out electronic games? I'm thinking specifically about the
Nintendo-type games, not CD-Roms. If you do, how does it work? Do they
go out? Any complaints? If you do not but have discussed it, why did
your library decide not to go with them?
I thank you in advance,
Kim Olson-Kopp
Youth Services Coordinator
La Crosse Public Library
La Crosse, Wisconsin
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From: "Lori Karns" <lkarns@rain.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: reducing hours your library is open???
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:38:36 CDT
Hi, Sally
Based on our experience here are some things we have done.
1. We keep hourly use counts (reference questions)then put on staff for
busiest times. This helps a lot if you are looking at either hours cutbacks
or days to close.
2. If we close for a full day, we try to coordinate with nearby libraries so
the public still can go get materials, somewhere.
3. We've combined reference and circ desks so one ref librarian and one
Library Technician can handle most of the routine functions working in
tandem. The librarian is the resource for the Library Technician (LT) if
they get a difficult ref question. Our library chose to hire LTs who can
work both reference and circ according to their job classification
description. An LT in our system has a batchelor degree and has to pass a
written test.
4. We try not to have one staff member in the library without pages or other
backup for security reasons.
5. We publicize 24/7 and Internet Cafe' which are online, escorted reference
services available to the public from their own PCs anytime night or day.
6. Be sure you know what your Union or Employee Association has in their
contract regarding shifts, overtime, etc.
7. Be careful you follow your Human Resources policy also so you are not
expecting people to work beyond their classification or they have a right to
come back and sue for back (increased) wages.
As a Children's Librarian, I would look at the minimum programming you can
do, and the best time to do it. Example: Can you do your class visits when
the library is closed - say in the mornings? Can you get volunteers to do
your storytimes? We train constantly to keep the best core of storytime
volunteers possible. Can you recruit volunteers to do some tasks that will
give your paid staff a break to do more complex work? Example: can a
volunteer do your magazine subscription checkins? We don't allow volunteers
access to the computer database due to security and confidentiality rules.
But they can do many other tasks, and will give you more security to have
people in the building.
There are also the political and public relations implications of service
closures, but I think that's best left to your director to set those
parameters.
I hope this goes well for you. It's hard to cut back services when we're
pretty passionate about providing them!
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From: "Sue Kilmer" <skilmer@yukon.lib.ok.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: reducing hours your library is open???
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:38:45 CDT
Previouslyour library was open until 9 PM four days a week. We lost two
part-time positions. Those individuals worked late evenings and weekends.
I received permission to close the library at 7 PM from
Memorial Day until Labor Day. This allows all of my full-time to be
working
during the day hours with the summer reading activities. We'll just tough
it out during the fall
and winter as I feel we need the library open until 9 PM for the students.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Sallywilms@aol.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: reducing hours your library is open???
>
> Our small city library in recent weeks has lost our half-dozen part-time
> workers and we are due to lose a circ. person, plus we have several slots
> unfilled. We are stretched so thin that our director is
planning to
> reduce hours
> the library is open.
>
> My question is, for those of you unlucky enough to be in this position,
how
> did y'all do it? Did you close a day? Did you pick a day or two
and
reduce
> hours? What prompted your decision? How did you come to the
decision to
do
> whatever you did?
>
> Any suggestions, explanations, discussions would be valuable to us.
We
are
> trying to figure out what to do, and this sort of thing makes my head
swim.
> We
> were all given the assingment to figure out a plan for this, but I spent
the
> week end reading HP5 instead....no one came up with a brilliant solution
in
> our little beleagured bunch.
>
> Oops--one further question--does your library use general staff to
work
at
> circ? We did a highly unscientific study in our county system, and
almost
> all
> the libraries do this.
>
> Thank you, oh collective brain.....
>
> Sally Williams
> W.T. Bland Public Library
> 1995 North Donnelly St.
> Mount Dora, FL 32757
>
>
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From: Paula Gilmour <PGilmour@plainfield.lib.in.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Silly Putty Help!
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:38:55 CDT
Materials:
Gloves
55% Elmer's glue solution in water
4% Borex solution (Sodium Borate
Styrofoam cups
Wooden Stick
Zip lock bags
Food Colors
1. Wear goggles and lab apron(since boraxa bleaching agent will burn eyes)
2. Pour 20 ml of elmer's glue into Styroform cup
3. Add 10 ml of borax solution to each cup
4. Immediately begin stirring using wooden stick
5. Silly Putty should be taken out of cup and kneaded. Don't worry about
material sticking to your gloves as these pieces will soon mix. Continue
to
knead until desired consistency.
6. Stretch the silly putty .
7. Place on news print and press firmly. Thanks
----Original Message-----
From: Vicky [mailto:vickys4444@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:20 AM
To: 'ylawired@maillist.nslsilus.org';
pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Silly Putty Help!
We are trying to make silly putty for a program on
thursday but the recipe doesn't seem to be working.
It's not turning into putty! We think the glue we
bought is the right kind - not school glue. Anyone
have any ideas or a foolproof recipe?
Thanks.
Vicky Schoenrock
Warren-Newport Public Library
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From: Greg Ullman <gullman@ci.covina.ca.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Library treasure hunt
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:39:03 CDT
Dear PUBYAC,
I asked a few weeks ago whether anyone had put on a "treasure
hunt" in
which participants are given a clue which leads them to a location in the
library, where they find another clue posted which leads them somewhere else
in the library, and so on. Those who find all the clues would be given a
small prize. The clues would be in the form of a puzzle, a riddle, or a
simple research question, preferably in rhyme. A couple people answered that
they had done treasure hunts like this, but I was looking for sample clues
that I could use (I've got writer's block when it comes to writing poetry.)
I'd like to have about 30 questions so that I can have three possible
paths of 10 questions each, (two for grade school students, one for Young
Adults) so that they can't just follow each other around the library. And
the clues should be simple enough for nearly all of them to solve on their
own so that it doesn't put a burden on the library staff.
Thanks for your help,
-- Greg Ullman
Covina Public Library (Calif.)
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From: Jill Dempsey <jdempsey@kenton.lib.ky.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: re: Silly Putty Help!
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:39:13 CDT
We have made it before by mixing Elmer's Glue and liquid starch (available=
at Wal-mart or grocery stores). You have to knead it for a few
minutes=
before it reaches the right consistency, but it's really cool!
Jill
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:19 AM, Vicky wrote:
>
>Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:19:33 CDT
>From: Vicky
>To: "'ylawired@maillist.nslsilus.org'"
<ylawired@maillist.nslsilus.org>,
>Subject: Silly Putty Help!
>
>We are trying to make silly putty for a program on
>thursday but the recipe doesn't seem to be working.
>It's not turning into putty! We think the glue we
>bought is the right kind - not school glue. Anyone
>have any ideas or a foolproof recipe?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Vicky Schoenrock
>Warren-Newport Public Library
>
>__________________________________
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Jill M. Dempsey
Supervisor of Children's Services
Erlanger Branch Library
401 Kenton Lands Road
Erlanger, Kentucky 41018
859-962-4000, ext. 4118
jdempsey@kenton.lib.ky.us
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From: "Kidstaff" <KIDSTAFF@mx.tol.lib.ca.us>
To: <DBRIGHT@ci.coppell.tx.us>,<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:39:22 CDT
We call ours Early Readers. For some people, reading is not easy. ER
is marked on the spine and they are shelved on their own special
shelves.
>>> DBRIGHT@ci.coppell.tx.us
06/24/03 08:19AM >>>
Friends: Pardons if this as been discussed before but my Director is
interested in calling our "Easy" books by something else than
"Easy."
We are considering "Picture Books." Are there libraries out
there
that
call their Easys by "Picture Books?" Or perhaps by something
else
altogether? I'll let everyone know what most said if there is any
interest. Email me directly at dbright@ci.coppell.tx.us
Thanks in advance! You guys always help me out!
Debbie Brightwell
Youth Services Librarian/Supervisor
Coppell Public Library
Coppell, Texas
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From: "Ruth Shafer" <rshafer@fvrl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:39:31 CDT
We call our "easy" book PICTURE BOOKS. I never refer to them as easy,
since
so many of them are difficult for new readers.
Ruth
Vancouver, Washington
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pubyac@prairienet.org
[mailto:owner-pubyac@prairienet.org]On
Behalf Of Deborah Brightwell
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:20 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
Friends: Pardons if this as been discussed before but my Director is
interested in calling our "Easy" books by something else than
"Easy."
We are considering "Picture Books." Are there libraries out
there that
call their Easys by "Picture Books?" Or perhaps by something
else
altogether? I'll let everyone know what most said if there is any
interest. Email me directly at dbright@ci.coppell.tx.us
Thanks in advance! You guys always help me out!
Debbie Brightwell
Youth Services Librarian/Supervisor
Coppell Public Library
Coppell, Texas
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From: Susan Wizinsky <swizinsk@gfn.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: reducing hours your library is open???
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:39:40 CDT
Hi,
Several years ago I worked for a library in a similar situation. One of
our solutions was to eliminate the cleaning company. All of us, five MLS
carrying librarians and one clerk, took turns cleaning in the hour before
the library opened each day. This saved a full-time librarian from losing
her job (me)! We also all worked circ, reference, etc. and each cut our
work week down one hour . Fortunately, we only had to do this for one year
as a milleage campaign began as a result and was successful.
Susan
--
Susan E. Wizinsky, M.S.L.S.
Children's Librarian
Genesee District Library
Grand Blanc-McFarlen Branch
515 Perry Road
Grand Blanc, Michigan 48439
810-694-5310
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From: karen maletz <kmlib@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:39:49 CDT
Also, maybe a couple of months ago, there was a
terrible story in the papers about a boy who was lured
out of a New Jersey library. Later his body was found
in a nearby ditch. (I remember that I was shocked
when I read the story because he was taken from a
library).Parents might have a false sense of security
that the library is a safe place & we hope it is, but
libraries are public buildings and parents always have
to watch out for their children's safety.
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From: Marilyn Robinson <fcplchildren@yahoo.com>
To: Pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Library cards and divorced parents
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:39:57 CDT
I am wondering how other libraries handle this
problem. If a child lives with a parent who keeps (for
safekeeping purposes) the child's library card, then
how do you handle the situation when the other parent
wants to get another card for the child? Our library
has a policy of a patron having only one active
library card at a time and the library card must be
presented when checking out materials. We understand
this is a problem for those parents and especially for
the children, but how do you handle limits on some
materials, overdues and fines if the child has two
library cards?
Thanks!
Marilyn Robinson
Fayette County Public Library
Connersville, IN 47331
fcplchildren@yahoo.com
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From: Susan Wizinsky <swizinsk@gfn.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Weird Rumor
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:40:06 CDT
Hi All,
I find the discussion about this "rumor" interesting. So, I
guess
I'll step up on my soap box once before my maternity leave begins.
(Maybe I'm hormonally driven, forgive me if I offend.)
First of all, I'm sure many of us have found ourselves in predicaments with
unsupervised kids. We should not and cannot be responsible for
supervising kids of any age. Many parents believe that is part of our
job. Parents need to be aware, on the most basic level, libraries, like
any other public places are not necessarily "safe places" to leave
kids.
Let's be honest, some of our visitors may be of questionable character
and yes, that may include a child molestor or terrorist.
Regarding our collections: Personally, I believe parents should consider
the content of the materials in the library. We preach the doctrine of
anti-censorship
as a profession and so we should. However, we are primarily in the
business of information.
Parents have a right and responsiblity to raise their children according
to their value system. We should help to support that freedom. If a
patron asks me to recommend a "clean" book for a child, I suggest that
they read the title, as I am not qualified to make a personal parental
judgement for someone else. That too is suggesting a form of parental
supervision.
Regarding internet use in libraries: Sure, most of it is pretty innocent.
However, parents need to be aware that filters are an imperfect tool. We
have filters
at my library and I can't tell you how many nights while shutting down our
computers I
have had to close up pornographic sites that have slipped through the
filters.
I guess I am tired of hearing people in my profession of 14 years make
negative statements about groups, particularly religious, who inform
parents about the content of some of the materials in our facilities. Why
is it so wrong to recommend to concerned parents that they need to pay
attention to their children's use of the library?
Okay, I admit, I'm conservative and Christian but I don't like Dr.
Laura. I do think, however, we, as a profession need to let conservative
groups know that we can help support their information needs as well as
liberal groups.
We are not an evil place!
Sincerely,
Susan
38 weeks pregnant and it is 90 outside!
--
Susan E. Wizinsky, M.S.L.S.
Children's Librarian
Genesee District Library
Grand Blanc-McFarlen Branch
515 Perry Road
Grand Blanc, Michigan 48439
810-694-5310
I am only speaking for myself when I express my views!
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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:40:15 CDT
Catherine Sarette <caes@openaccess.org>
wrote:
"I think it was Dr. Laura who first began telling parents not to allow
their
young children into the library, not even for story time. Libraries are evil
places, she said in her simplistic way, because pornography can be accessed
there."
That's because they can download nude pictures of her from her
less-than-Catholic schoolgirl days!
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From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Newbery Contenders?
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 23:59:51 CDT
Hello all,
I know everyone is buried in Summer Reading just now but we
have been
discussing doing our first Mock Newbery program this fall/winter and I
was wondering if anyone had any titles to suggest.
Julie Rines
jrines@ocln.org
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From: Jeannie Kunzinger <jkunzing@leaguecitylibrary.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Fees for services; apologies for duplicate list postings
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:00:00 CDT
Pressure from the city...
I would like to know if other libraries charge fees for; programs,
services, or check outs such as videos, etc. Anything other than overdue
fines, replacement cards, non-resident fees and copying.
You may reply to me directly or to the list. I will compile the information
and post it to the list.
Thank you,
Jeannie Kunzinger
Youth Services Coordinator
jkunzing@leaguecitylibrary.org
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From: "Diana Cook" <dcook@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
To: "Pubyac@Prairienet. Org"
<pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: A big thank you
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Thanks to everyone who sent Eygptian info to me for my program. We had a
really excellent time,making cartouche bookmarks with black paper, gel pens
and booktape. We also made some dice out of paper and played the game
where
kids wrap each other in toilet paper. I had done this before but this time
it went much better; I wish I had had a camera, they were so goofy looking!
I also read some stories, but I had found so many excellent books, it's too
bad there wasn't enough time to read more (and I allowed an hour and a half
for this program!)
Thanks to all for everything you do out there in libraryland,
you're a great resource and source of support,
Diana Cook
dcook@reginalibrary.ca
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From: j b <jhsampson991@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: reducing hours your library is open???
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:00:15 CDT
What about getting your borrowers involved?
Have them 'vote' for the times that they use the facility most.
Sallywilms@aol.com wrote:
My question is, for those of you unlucky enough to be in this position, how
did y'all do it? Did you close a day? Did you pick a day or two and reduce
hours? What prompted your decision? How did you come to the decision to do
whatever you did?
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From: "Monica Anderson" <m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: DBRIGHT@ci.coppell.tx.us, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:00:24 CDT
We call our easy books "picture books" but they still have the
"E"
call number. When we do tours and talk about the "E" designation
we
say, "The 'E' stands for 'everybody' because they're really good
books for parents and teachers to read to kids. Some books have just
a few words and some books have a lot of words and some books have no
words at all, so it's harder to find books that are just right for
you to read."
HTH!
Monica Anderson
Youth Services Librarian
Grace A. Dow Memorial Library
Midland, Michigan
m.anderson@vlc.lib.mi.us
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