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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1144


    PUBYAC Digest 1144

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) New Harry Potter shipment
by Judy Looby <jrlooby@yahoo.com>
  2) RE: murder mysteries
by "Clark, Julie" <JClark@fredco-md.net>
  3) Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
by Jo Hick <johick_2000@yahoo.com>
  4) Summer book Lists
by "Carol Chatfield" <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
  5) Informal survey results:  New Harry Potter shipment
by "Oliver, Jim" <jimo@siouxland.lib.sd.us>
  6) Silly Putty Help!
by Vicky <vickys4444@yahoo.com>
  7) Easy Book vs. Picture Book
by "Deborah Brightwell" <DBRIGHT@ci.coppell.tx.us>
  8) reducing hours your library is open???
by Sallywilms@aol.com
  9) Stumper:  loop snake, lean on, tree squeak
by "Melanie Sperling" <melaniesperling@lycos.com>
 10) Stumper: girl and monster
by "Becky Smith" <BSMITH@loganutah.org>
 11) STUMPER: Heart and Soul?
by "heather mcneil" <heatherm@dpls.lib.or.us>
 12) Stumper - Kids Flushing Adults Into Sewer
by "Rob Reid" <reid@ifls.lib.wi.us>
 13) Stumper-flower girl
by "Julie Blaylock" <bdljulieb@hotmail.com>
 14) Patron Request: 4th grade Sci_Fi
by "Misha Stone" <Misha.Stone@spl.org>
 15) Stumper solved
by "Sonja Ackerman" <snacker@mcpl.lib.wi.us>
 16) Stumper: Another "Golden Book" question
by Tonya Cross <chi_tonya@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>

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From: Judy Looby <jrlooby@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: New Harry Potter shipment
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:18:49 CDT


We're a small library with a small staff and only ordered 3 copies of Order
of the Phoenix.  Staff could place holds and could have received copies
first or nearly first, but they neglected to do so!  So our copies went out
to patrons, and my staff now has their names on the list.  I bought copies
for my kids, so I'm reading my daughter's copy now, since she already
finished it.

 Judy Looby
Charleston Public Library
Charleston, IL

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From: "Clark, Julie" <JClark@fredco-md.net>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RE: murder mysteries
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:18:58 CDT

Sure.
Try http://mystery-games.com/teenmyspar.html
or http://dbldog.com/aguess.htm

Have fun!
Julie Clark


-----Original Message-----
From: ploew@crrl.org [mailto:ploew@crrl.org]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:23 AM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: murder mysteries


I'm going to be doing a mystery in the library program  in October.  I'm
interested in these kits. Can you please tell me where you ordered them from
online?

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From: Jo Hick <johick_2000@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Weird rumor about libraries?
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:19:06 CDT

I hate to see this situation blown up as a major scare
across the country, but parents need to watch their
young children no matter where they go these days, not
just libraries.  We protect our kids from what we see
as dangerous situations all the time, and most
libraries are VERY safe places.  What about the
problem they had in Minneapolis when even the
librarians sued over the hostile working conditions
when some "hard-core pornography users" threatened and
harassed them?  Some of these men even masturbated
while viewing the material (I apologize for being
blunt, but that is what the newspaper article said).
One women said she was followed downtown by one of the
men who also followed her home on the bus.  He was
later arrested for allegedly raping a girl at
knife-point whom he had abducted from a bus stop
(St.Paul Pioneer Press 3/26/03). 

This was not an "adults only" strip club we are
talking about, this was a library, where in the same
building young children browse for their reading
material and put on puppet shows for their friends. 

We need to make sure the "rights" of some do not
affect the safety of others.  The internet has been
around for quite awhile and we should evaluate all
situations that present problems. If we don't address
this, we will hear plenty from extremists who claim
that we are the evil enemy. 

Just my personal opinion,

Jo Hick
Youth Services Librarian
 
--- Catherine Sarette <caes@openaccess.org> wrote:
> Don't let your under-16 year old into the library?
> That's not a rumor,
> it's a movement.  It's about Internet access of
> course. Talk show hosts
> have been haranguing their audiences about this for
> a long time.  I think
> it was Dr. Laura who first began telling parents not
> to allow their young
> children into the library, not even for story time.
> Libraries are evil
> places, she said in her simplistic way, because
> pornography can be
> accessed there. (Evidently she's never been to a
> library and looked around
> to see the innocent uses of the Internet there.)
>
> Catherine
>


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From: "Carol Chatfield" <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Summer book Lists
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:19:15 CDT

We don't limit the number of titles a student may borrow from a reading
list, but we do try to get multiple paperbacks to help meet the demand.  We
always offer reserves if a title is out, and that helps to guage if we need
more copies.  We order our books unprocessed and can quickly add titles to
existing marc records, so additional copies can be on the shelves in less
than a week.
Hate to make you all drool, but my middle school librarian is checking her
lists against her collection and bringing me copies of anything I don't
have - talk about the best of all possible worlds!
Part of the solution has to be communicating with your counterparts in the
schools.  Some with cooperate and some will not, but any that do respond
will make your life much easier.
Carol Chatfield,
 Youth Services Librarian
Ilsley Public Library
75 Main Street
Middlebury, VT 05753
cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu

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From: "Oliver, Jim" <jimo@siouxland.lib.sd.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Informal survey results:  New Harry Potter shipment
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:19:24 CDT


I received 44 responses for my informal survey about public libraries recei=
ving their copies of the new Harry Potter book. Most reported receiving and=
 processing their copies of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in ti=
me to have them ready for their customers on June 21st.  Libraries ordered =
from Amazon.com (2), B&T (16), Barnes and Noble (2), Brodart (4), BWI (12),=
 Ingram (4), or directly from Scholastic (10). Some libraries ordered from =
multiple vendors. 50 orders were placed by 44 libraries. In 45 of 50 orders=
, all copies ordered were received before June 21.
=20
For those who had problems getting their copies by June 21, I could not fin=
d a recurring problem with any one vendor. Most problems stemmed from order=
ing the book so far in advance of its publication. One library reported tha=
t the vendor had canceled their initial order because the book was not ship=
ped before their backorder time limit expired. Several libraries compliment=
ed B&T for spotting this potential problem and keeping their copies on back=
order. Another library ended up with a duplicate shipment from B&T because =
of the cancellation/reorder process.
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One library reported having received their trade edition copies but having =
to wait longer for their copies in library binding. I believe this is what =
happened to my library, since our order was for 75 copies in library bindin=
g.=20
=20
Thanks to everyone who responded to my informal survey. My concern that lib=
rary orders for HP5 were taking a back seat to bookstores and retail outlet=
s appears to be unfounded.=20
=20

Jim Oliver
Children's Librarian
Siouxland Libraries
201 N. Main Ave
Sioux Falls, SD 57104
605.367.8719
joliver@siouxfalls.org

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From: Vicky <vickys4444@yahoo.com>
To: "'ylawired@maillist.nslsilus.org'" <ylawired@maillist.nslsilus.org>,
  pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Silly Putty Help!
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:19:33 CDT

We are trying to make silly putty for a program on
thursday but the recipe doesn't seem to be working.
It's not turning into putty! We think the glue we
bought is the right kind - not school glue. Anyone
have any ideas or a foolproof recipe?

Thanks.

Vicky Schoenrock
Warren-Newport Public Library

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From: "Deborah Brightwell" <DBRIGHT@ci.coppell.tx.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Easy Book vs. Picture Book
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:19:41 CDT

Friends:  Pardons if this as been discussed before but my Director  is
interested in calling our "Easy" books by something else than "Easy."
We are considering "Picture Books."  Are there libraries out there that
call their Easys by "Picture Books?"  Or perhaps by something else
altogether?  I'll let everyone know what most said if there is any
interest.  Email me directly at dbright@ci.coppell.tx.us
Thanks in advance!  You guys always help me out!

Debbie Brightwell
Youth Services Librarian/Supervisor
Coppell Public Library
Coppell, Texas

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From: Sallywilms@aol.com
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: reducing hours your library is open???
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:19:49 CDT


Our small city library in recent weeks has lost our half-dozen part-time
workers and we are due to lose a circ. person, plus we have several slots
unfilled.    We are stretched so thin that our director is planning to
reduce hours
the library is open.

My question is, for those of you unlucky enough to be in this position, how
did y'all do it?  Did you close a day?  Did you pick a day or two and reduce
hours?  What prompted your decision?  How did you come to the decision to do
whatever you did?

Any suggestions, explanations, discussions would be valuable to us.  We are
trying to figure out what to do, and this sort of thing makes my head swim.
We
were all given the assingment to figure out a plan for this, but I spent the
week end reading HP5 instead....no one came up with a brilliant solution in
our little beleagured bunch.

Oops--one further question--does your library use general staff  to work at
circ?  We did a highly unscientific study in our county system, and almost
all
the libraries do this.

Thank you, oh collective brain.....

Sally Williams
W.T. Bland Public Library
1995 North Donnelly St.
Mount Dora, FL 32757

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From: "Melanie Sperling" <melaniesperling@lycos.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper:  loop snake, lean on, tree squeak
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:15 CDT

Hello,

A patron is looking for a book that she read to her children maybe 40 years
ago.  It had folk tales about a loop snake, tree squeaks and lean ons.  She
remembers from the book that if children noticed that a tree was crooked in
the morning that they were told that the lean ons must have been there
during the night.

If this sounds familiar to you, please reply to me at
melaniesperling@lycos.com.

Thank you.

Melanie Sperling






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From: "Becky Smith" <BSMITH@loganutah.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper: girl and monster
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:23 CDT

I have a young patron (about 10 years old) looking for a picture book
his teacher read to his class a 'long time ago, when I was about five.'
It's about a little girl who finds a baby monster, lost and crying.  The
girl takes the monster home, raises it, and eventually lets it go free
to live with the other monsters in the mountains.  He remembers the
monster eating everything in the basement at one point.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Becky Ann Smith
Youth Services Librarian
Logan Library
Logan, UT
bsmith@loganutah.org

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From: "heather mcneil" <heatherm@dpls.lib.or.us>
To: "PUBYAC (E-mail)" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: STUMPER: Heart and Soul?
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:31 CDT


I have a patron looking for a mystery series she read when she was a =
teen (between 1985 and 1991).  She thought the series was called "Heart =
and Soul."
She thinks the second book in the series was called "Stage Fright," and =
book 3 was "Hear no Evil."

Does anyone recognize any of these titles?


Heather McNeil
Youth Services Coordinator/Bend Library Co-Manager
Deschutes Public Library
601 N. W. Wall St.
Bend, OR  97701
541-617-7099
heatherm@dpls.lib.or.us

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From: "Rob Reid" <reid@ifls.lib.wi.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper - Kids Flushing Adults Into Sewer
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:39 CDT

A thirty-something remembers (from her childhood) a book about a group =
of kids who flush all of the adults (except a teacher and a few parents) =
into the city sewer system. That's all she can remember. If you know it, =
please respond to reid@ifls.lib.wi.us. Thank you - Rob

Rob Reid
Youth Services/Special Needs Coordinator
Indianhead Federated Library System
1538 Truax Blvd, Eau Claire, WI 54703
715-839-5082, ext. 14
Fax: 715-839-5151
reid@ifls.lib.wi.us

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From: "Julie Blaylock" <bdljulieb@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper-flower girl
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:47 CDT

Dear Yaccers,
                  I have a patron who is looking for a children's book,
approximately 40 years old, about a little flower girl. She falls asleep
while looking at her dress hanging up in her room. Her boquet is delivered
to her house. There are lovely pastel illustrations, one of which is of the
bride bending down to the little girl and whispering, "I'm afraid, too." The
littler girl is given a piece of "dreamcake" to put under her pillow. Does
anyone recognize this book? If so, please email me directly, and I'll post
the answers to the list.
                Thanks!

Julie Blaylock
Buchanan District Library
Buchanan, Michigan
bdljulieb@hotmail.com

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From: "Misha Stone" <Misha.Stone@spl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Patron Request: 4th grade Sci_Fi
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:55 CDT

Hello!  Please help us with this patron request!  Any leads would be
appreciated.

"I am trying to find a story that was read to my class by our teacher
>when I was in 4th grade... set in the near future after the
environment
>had been destroyed. People no longer ate fresh food and had to wear
>oxygen masks to breathe outside. But the story is more about this one
>family and how they grew their own food (tomatoes) and raised animals
>(pigs) in the basement artificially which apparently was illegal. The
>only other detail of the story I can remember was something to do
with
>the end and a locked box that could only e opened by a quicksilver
key."
>The patron was in 4th grade in 1981.

Thanks in advance!

>


Misha M. Stone
Fiction Librarian
The Seattle Public Library
800 Pike St.
Seattle, WA 98101
(206) 386-4660
misha.stone@spl.org




Misha M. Stone
Fiction Librarian
The Seattle Public Library
800 Pike St.
Seattle, WA 98101
(206) 386-4660
misha.stone@spl.org

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From: "Sonja Ackerman" <snacker@mcpl.lib.wi.us>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children"
Subject: Stumper solved
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:36:03 CDT


Thanks to Julie, Molly and Ellen who identified a short story called =
Barrington Bunny in a collection titled The Way of the Wolf.  The patron =
is on her way!

Original question:
A patron is looking for an older book about a rabbit who saved a mouse. =
The book was read to young children 15 years ago in a classroom.  The =
rabbit doesn't have a family.  The rabbit asked all the animals in the =
forest if he could become a member of their family, but they all =
refused.  For example, he asked the ducks, but they said no because he =
was not a swimmer.  Finally he found a mouse who had a need for him and =
he joined the mouse's family.  During the winter the rabbit lay on top =
of the mouse to protect him from the cold weather.  When spring came, =
the mouse found the carcass of the rabbit on top of him.  The patron =
thought the book was titled something like:  The Barrington Rabbit

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From: Tonya Cross <chi_tonya@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Another "Golden Book" question
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:36:10 CDT

I'm back again, with another "Golden Book" related stumper.  A patron
called today, and was trying to find out the name of a book she
remembers from childhood.  (I'm not sure of her age.)  She thinks the
book was a golden book about a married couple.  The wife knitted all the
time, and the sound of the knitting needles gave the husband a
headache.  The wife tells the man that if he will wear the mittens(?)
she made for him, his headache will get better.  He does what she says
(good husband ;) ), and his headache goes away.

We've done a boolean search of our catalog and Google, checked E_Bay
(just scanning titles), and are in the process of checking through
"Collecting Little Golden Books" by Santi.  Does anyone know the title
of this book?  We're striking out!

Thanks, in advance, for any assistance!

Tonya Cross
Reference Assistant
Main Library Children's Room
Dayton Metro Library
Dayton, OH

chi_tonya@dayton.lib.oh.us

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