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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1194
PUBYAC Digest 1194
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Birthday celebrations
by Judy Looby <jrlooby@yahoo.com>
2) Re: book review sources for non-fiction books
by Rjohc@aol.com
3) Re: Seeking Past Posting of Fall Fest Idea List
by Vicki Shroyer <vickis@yellowbananas.com>
4) Storybook Quilt Pattern
by "Pat Rainey" <pat.rainey@medina.lib.oh.us>
5) Kids catalog
by "Levy, Debra" <Debra.Levy@ci.corvallis.or.us>
6) RE: celebrating staff bdays & personal milestones
by "Alissa Ulrich" <aulrich@pekin.net>
7) Re: book review sources for non-fiction books
by Rjohc@aol.com
8) Rules of Conduct
by "Jo-Ann Woolverton" <jwoolverton@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
9) talent show
by PATM <PATM@mail.selco.lib.mn.us>
10) funny questions
by John_Maunder/Pittwater_Council@pittwater.nsw.gov.au
11) Assignment Alert Web Pages
by Sue Jones <sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>
12) Infant storytime needs jazzing up
by "Jennifer Goldman" <jgoldman@hcpl.net>
13) RE: Staff birthdays
by "Patricia Jones" <pjones@zblibrary.org>
14) outreach
by Nancy Bonne <bonne@noblenet.org>
15) seeking name for YA online book chat
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
16) Re: Programs on Ancient Egypt
by "Megan Vanderhart" <Vanderhart.Megan@rigov.org>
17) Re: Where is the biography section?
by Prudence Taylor <ptaylor_gcl@yahoo.com>
18) Re: Programs on Ancient Egypt
by beth werking <bewerking@yahoo.com>
19) Re: Crayon games
by "Sam Maskell" <jmaskell@sover.net>
20) RE: cell phones!
by "Jennifer Salt" <jennifersalt@hotmail.com>
21) Re: celebrating staff bdays & personal milestones
by ssendry@hudson.lib.oh.us
22) Re: book review sources for non-fiction books
by nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
23) Staff training
by Pam Gravenor <pam.gravenor@ncc.govt.nz>
24) Re: Where is the biography section?
by Marcia Schaffer <schaffma@oplin.org>
25) Re: celebrating staff bdays & personal milestones
by Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
26) Re: Graphic novel program
by INOUE Yasuyo <yinoue@dokkyo.ac.jp>
27) Responses to call for help regarding Heather Has Two Mommies
by "Sophie Brookover" <sophie@mtlaurel.lib.nj.us>
28) Re: Where is the biography section?
by "Sheilah O'Connor" <soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
29) RE: Where is the biography section?
by "Linda Fields" <linda@richfieldcity.com>
30) Re: book review sources for non-fiction books
by "Jan Drake" <JDrake@minlib.net>
31) Re: Where is the biography section?
by seanps@george.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Looby [mailto:jrlooby@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:58 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Birthday celebrations
Our library is smaller, but the way we've always handled birthdays is on
your birthday, you bring the treat to share. Everyone signs a card and
there are no gifts. The birthday person gets an extra long break that day
to celebrate with everyone.
Judy Looby
Charleston Public Library
Charleston, IL
-----Original Message-----
From: Rjohc@aol.com [mailto:Rjohc@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:58 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: book review sources for non-fiction books
If budget is a consideration my first pick is Booklist. There are many
titles I purchase for non-fiction in the Teen collection here I see in
Booklist.
You may also consider BWI, which is a free online way to see reviews for
children's and teen materials. www.bwibooks.com
Robyn Hammer-Clarey
Teen Librarian
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
-----Original Message-----
From: Vicki Shroyer [mailto:vickis@yellowbananas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:58 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Seeking Past Posting of Fall Fest Idea List
I would also like a copy of this list if at all possible.
Vicki
Chestnut Ridge School District
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 12:25 AM, SHIRLEY CREAGER wrote:
> p
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Rainey [mailto:pat.rainey@medina.lib.oh.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:58 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Storybook Quilt Pattern
Hello!
Our computers have been down for a couple of days, but here is the
information
about the Storybook quilt pattern I promised to post:
The name of the pattern is Storytime Readers, published by Time to Quilt,
designed by Cathy Wierzbicki. I have a contact addresses--
Time To Quilt
913 NE 28th Street
Ankeny, Iowa
(515) 964-4135
The pattern number is TTQ-RDR.
The pattern envelope also lists this email address--I'm not sure if it's
still
good:
timetoquilt@aol.com I hope this
helps!
Pat Rainey
Brunswick Community Library
-----Original Message-----
From: Levy, Debra [mailto:Debra.Levy@ci.corvallis.or.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:58 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Kids catalog
Hi all,
I'm creating a kids' catalog and I'm wondering if any of you have any
experience creating or working with a catalog created especially for
children. Are there any specific features or functions you recommend? Any
comments that you've received from children (or parents) that stand out in
your mind? I'd love to hear your overall impressions! Please email me
off-list (debra.levy@ci.corvallis.or.us)
and I can compile the responses if
there is interest.
Thanks in advance!
Debbie Levy
Youth Services Librarian
Corvallis-Benton County Public Library, OR
-----Original Message-----
From: Alissa Ulrich [mailto:aulrich@pekin.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:58 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: celebrating staff bdays & personal milestones
We have a kitty fund and every month we contribute 50 cents. The person in
charge of the kitty takes care of buying the cards and circulating them to
get signed. She'll also send the flowers (if someone is ill) and purchase
gifts (showers)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rjohc@aol.com [mailto:Rjohc@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:59 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: book review sources for non-fiction books
If budget is a consideration my first pick is Booklist. There are many
titles I purchase for non-fiction in the Teen collection here I see in
Booklist.
You may also consider BWI, which is a free online way to see reviews for
children's and teen materials. www.bwibooks.com
Robyn Hammer-Clarey
Teen Librarian
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
-----Original Message-----
From: Jo-Ann Woolverton [mailto:jwoolverton@tpl.toronto.on.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:59 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Rules of Conduct
With the end of summer I am starting to plan class visits. I am looking for
creative ideas for class visits about rules of conduct. I will compile and
post all of the wonderful suggestions that I just know will come my way.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Jo-Ann Woolverton
Jane Dundas Library, Toronto Public Library
Toronto, ON
416-394-1014 (voice)
416-394-1025 (fax)
jwoolverton@tpl.toronto.on.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: PATM [mailto:PATM@mail.selco.lib.mn.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:59 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: talent show
My teen group would like to have a talent show for Teen Read Week, open
to all middle school and high school students. I would appreciate any
tips from anyone who has done this--problems, good things that worked,
did you audition or just sign up ahead, etc.
Thanks for any info. I want to know if I am getting in over my head!
Pat Martin
Red Wing Public Library
patm@selco.lib.mn.us
-----Original Message-----
From: John_Maunder/Pittwater_Council@pittwater.nsw.gov.au
[mailto:John_Maunder/Pittwater_Council@pittwater.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:59 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: funny questions
I remember a few weeks ago there was an amusing thread about the strange
questions and requests we receive. Well, I finally had one that I thought
was worth sharing......a patron (probably 50's) came in and asked me for a
colour photograph of William the Conqueror! He went away slightly
disappointed with a photocopy of a black and white photo of a painting.
You can only try...
John Maunder
Pittwater Library Service
Sydney, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Sue Jones [mailto:sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:59 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: Assignment Alert Web Pages
Hello everyone,
If your library website includes an Assignment Alert Page for the purpose of
allowing teachers to notify you about upcoming assignments, would you please
share your website address and any pertinent comments?
We've heard that it doesn't always work well for everyone, but we would like
to give this a try within our revamped website.
Please e-mail your responses directly to my address at:
sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us <mailto:sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>
Thank you all very much,
Sue Jones
Pleasanton Library, CA
(925) 931-3400 x 23
sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us <mailto:sjones@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Goldman [mailto:jgoldman@hcpl.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:59 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Infant storytime needs jazzing up
Hello all and thanks in advance for your help. I feel a little stuck in my
lapsit format. I have a lot of rhymes/songs/fingerplays, I use a parachute
every other week, and I set out board books and musical instruments during
playtime. However, I'm getting a bit restless and I can sense some of my
regular moms are too. Do you have any great songs or suggestions to shake
things up a bit? Please email me off the list at jgoldman@hcpl.net.
Thank
you so much!!
Jennifer Goldman
Children's Librarian
Barbara Bush at Cypress Creek
Harris County Public Library
-----Original Message-----
From: Patricia Jones [mailto:pjones@zblibrary.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:59 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Staff birthdays
Hi, Deanna! At our library the custom is the birthday person brings in a
treat for the rest of us! Birthdays and library anniversaries are announced
in the staff newsletter. Other milestones have an announcement on the staff
bulletin board frequently with a computer generated card sent around so that
we can all add a personal message to the receivee. We usually have a party
with cake and a short speech from the supervisor for those who are leaving
and a small gift from the library (usually something with the library logo).
For those who have worked here many years, the gift and party are more
elaborate. Pat Jones
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Bonne [mailto:bonne@noblenet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:00 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: outreach
We've been playing with an idea that we're trying to get off the ground,
and seem to be stuck about how to make it work. We want to have an
open-house for home day-care providers, as we've found that they may need
some guidance on how to use books with children in their care, and to let
them know about the free resources available to them in the Library. We
ruled out visits to the homes, as there are too many of them, and would
like to have a big evening here at the Library. They will be tired. Will
they come? We know we need to offer food, and were planning to have a
raffle and door prizes. Also, we've been stockpiling picture books to give
a packet to each of them when they leave. What else will be a
draw? Beyond modeling reading to young children and book-talking, it
doesn't seem jazzy enough to lure someone out of their home after a full
day of day care. Has anyone done this? or have ideas? nancy
bonne,
bonne@noblenet.org
Nancy Bonne
Children's Librarian
Beverly Public Library
bonne@noblenet.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:jbaker93711@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:00 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: seeking name for YA online book chat
our library is starting an internet message board for
teens where they can go in and chat about the
different books that they like. they can choose from
different genres and talk to other teens to make
recommendations, etc. right now it's just called "book
chat" but we're looking for something that's a little
more catchy and fun.
any ideas?
please respond to jbaker93711@yahoo.com
thanks!
~j.
=====
~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library
"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun
fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is
that?" "I
am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy
-----Original Message-----
From: Megan Vanderhart [mailto:Vanderhart.Megan@rigov.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:00 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Programs on Ancient Egypt
I would also be interested in any Ancient Egypt programming ideas. Our
AE collection is practically cleared by homeschoolers, and I'd like to
offer some activities to go with their studies!
Thanks.
Megan VanderHart
VanderME@rigov.org
>>> Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org
8/27/2003 11:25:39 PM >>>
One of my coworkers asked about programs on ancient Egypt. I know we
covered this, but I don't have it.
The program she's doing is called "Walk Like an Egyptian" and the
blurb
reads: "Discover the mysteries of King Tut's tomb, opened for the first
time
80 years ago this month. [The program's in November.] Travel back in
time
to Ancient Egypt. Feast like a Pharaoh, discover the riddles of the
Sphynx,
excape the Pyramid maze and more." I guess she'd like a few more
ideas.
It's for grades 1 through 5.
Bonita
-----Original Message-----
From: Prudence Taylor [mailto:ptaylor_gcl@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:00 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Where is the biography section?
Your director is correct. Biographies are now being cataloged by subject. My
library is doing this with new biographies. It really hasn't been a bad
thing. People wanting to read about Michael Jordan look in 796. Unless Mom
or Dad is tapping a foot to leave, they take the time to browse through the
whole area.
Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
wrote:Help! Our adult biographies are
being recataloged
from 92 to their Dewey subject numbers (artists in
759, athletes in 796, etc)making it difficult for
customers to browse or help themselves. Our
children's staff has successfully fought this trend.
I am having trouble convincing anyone that YA
biographies should be cataloged 92. My director feels
that subject cataloging of biographies is what most
libraries do now. Is this true? What do you do if a
student just needs a biography of a specific number of
pages? Thanks in advance.
Susan Engelmann
North Kansas City Public Library
Prudence A. Taylor, Director
Greenwood County Library
106 North Main Street
Greenwood, SC 29646
Voice: 864/941 - 4650
Fax: 864/941 - 4651
Email: ptaylor_gcl@yahoo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: beth werking [mailto:bewerking@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:00 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Programs on Ancient Egypt
I have to thank Sherry Huston from the Columbus Metropolitan Library for
this one: we had a "mummy wrapping" contest using toilet paper--each
team
elected a "mummy" and the winner was the one who finished up the
toilet
paper first. She also wrote out the mummy riddles on small pieces of
rolled
muslin and had theml stashed in a pencil tin
shaped like a mummy.
Museum stores have rubber stamp kits with hieroglyphs. If you could locate
a set, I think the children who have fun creating their own cartouche.
Bonita Kale <Bonita.Kale@euclidlibrary.org>
wrote:
One of my coworkers asked about programs on ancient Egypt. I know we
covered this, but I don't have it.
The program she's doing is called "Walk Like an Egyptian" and the
blurb
reads: "Discover the mysteries of King Tut's tomb, opened for the first
time
80 years ago this month. [The program's in November.] Travel back in time
to Ancient Egypt. Feast like a Pharaoh, discover the riddles of the Sphynx,
excape the Pyramid maze and more." I guess she'd like a few more ideas.
It's for grades 1 through 5.
Bonita
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Maskell [mailto:jmaskell@sover.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:00 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Crayon games
We're holding a "Make and Name a New Color" contest. Throughout
October =
kids can come in and use the Crayon Maker. In case you haven't seen the =
Crayon Maker it's a small machine that allows you to put broken pieces =
of crayon in, melt them down and then pour them into a crayon mold. In =
the end you have 4 very unique crayons. I'm thinking of limiting the =
kids to one use only before the judging, but haven't decided. The Teen =
Advisory Council will be doing the judging; right now the TAC is =
planning the winning categories such as Most Yummy, Coolest Name, Best =
Use of Pink, Sweetest Color, Scariest, and so on. I think they have =
about 15 categories so far. We'll have all the crayons on display along =
with the winning crayons during the annual Family Halloween Party when =
the winners will be announced and the prizes will be handed out. =20
So far for prizes I'm considering giving small boxes of crayons, however =
if any Pubyacers have a creative prize idea I would love to hear about =
it.
Our Crayon Maker was donated by a parent, a new one costs about $20 and =
you can find them at crayola.com.
~Sam
**********************************************************
Samantha Maskell, Youth Services Librarian
Rockingham Free Public Library
65 Westminster Street
Bellows Falls, VT 05101
802.463.4270
**********************************************************
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Salt [mailto:jennifersalt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:00 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: cell phones!
I have actually had multiple persons, on multiple occasions, talk on cell
phones during storytime. I understand forgetting to turn a phone off, but
then to answer it and procede to have a conversation! (Beyond, Sorry, can't
talk now!) Or, to actually pull out a phone and dial! This is the middle of
storytime, not while we're waiting to get started or during socialization or
craft time. What is _wrong_ with people? And, what will their children be
like by kindergarten age?
--Jennifer
>From: Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: RE: cell phones!
>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:24:21 CDT
>
>Our sign instructs customers to use their cell phones
>outside of the building to protect their privacy.
>Does it work? Sometimes.
>
>Susan Engelmann
>North Kansas City Public Library
>
-----Original Message-----
From: ssendry@hudson.lib.oh.us
[mailto:ssendry@hudson.lib.oh.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:01 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: celebrating staff bdays & personal milestones
Hello,
At my last library they collected a 2 or 3 dollar donation from every staff
member once a month during our monthly staff meeting. The money just
collected and when we needed money for a special event it came from that
money.
Stacey Sendry
Children's Services Librarian
Hudson Library and Historical Society
-----Original Message-----
From: nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
[mailto:nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:01 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: book review sources for non-fiction books
Kliatt reviews non-fiction for children through YA. A one-year
subscription
is $39. I like them because they review the educational vendors like
Rosen,
Greenwood, etc.
Nancy Koebel
Birchard Public Library of Sandusky County
nkoebel@birchard.lib.oh.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Pam Gravenor [mailto:pam.gravenor@ncc.govt.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:01 PM
To: Pubyac (E-mail)
Subject: Staff training
Does anyone have any great resources to teach staff, or introduce them to,
the following topics? If so, please could I have bibliographic details, or
supplier details, or, if it is something like a pamphlet, a copy? Perhaps
there are videos on some of this?
- skills for dealing with children and teens as customers (for generalist
staff)
- child development (with mostly practical, and hopefully library based
examples, with little if any theory)
- introduction to children's and teen literature, but not something so full
of specific examples that it will be useless in 2 years. Perhaps it would
cover the quality vs demand issue, or the value of literature to children,
or other general literature topics. (We'd supplement this sort of thing
with something more specific, ongoing and up to date)
- reference skills for specialist children's/YA staff.
Thanks a lot,
Pam Gravenor
Children's and Young Adults' Librarian
Nelson Public Libraries
Private Bag 41
Nelson
New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: Marcia Schaffer [mailto:schaffma@oplin.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:01 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Where is the biography section?
Ugghh!! How hard is that?! We still have ours in the 92s.
Several
teachers assign a biography and students can browse through the 92s and
find one without having a specific person in mind. They often find a
biography of someone they've never heard of but the book looks interesting
and I think it broadens their choices.
Good luck!
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Engelmann [mailto:suengelm@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:01 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: celebrating staff bdays & personal milestones
We have a set amount that each staff person gives at
the beginning of the year for "milestones'. It is $20
for full -time staff and $10 for part time staff (We
have a staff of 20) Birthdays are recognized by a
card and a potluck lunch. Gifts are given on an
individual basis - no "group gift" We do take up a
collection to get our director a Christmas gift.
Susan Engelmann
North Kansas City Public Library
-----Original Message-----
From: INOUE Yasuyo [mailto:yinoue@dokkyo.ac.jp]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:01 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Graphic novel program
In Japan more than ten years ago at a public library in Oasaka
did a three-day workshop for young adults.One day a Manga=graphic
novel writer talked how to make and how to be a professional.
Second day a Manga bookshop mamager talked about sales market of
Manga. Third day an editor of publisher which sells Manga mainly
talked about what is real life of professional Manga writer.
Many low teengers in Japan are eager to be a professional Manga
writer and actually many become so.Most of them start to sell
thier works when they are 14 or 15 years old.
yasuyo inoue
kyoto, Japan
-----Original Message-----
From: Sophie Brookover [mailto:sophie@mtlaurel.lib.nj.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:01 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Responses to call for help regarding Heather Has Two Mommies
Once again, I am impressed with and grateful for the combined knowledge of
PUBYAC. I would like to thank the following members for their assistance
and suggestions: Natalie Chlebanowski, Mary Sigals, Jackie Kiszewski, Beth
Galloway, Maureen Winkoop, Julie Ann Rines, Patti Wyatt, Susan Balla, Andrea
Johnson (I sent you an e-mail, but it bounced back to me, and June Osowski.
I hope I haven't left any other helpers among you out of the list!
Several of you e-mailed, faxed, or snailmailed me reviews, and I thank you
all. Others offered a handful of useful suggestions which may come in
handy
for other book challenges.
The top suggestions were:
1) Contact Beverley Becker at the ALA's Office of Intellectual Freedom
(1-800-545-2433), as this is right up her alley. [I did, and it is --
she's
hunting down reviews as I type this.]
2) Contact the publisher for a host of reviews.
Thanks so much, everyone!
best,
Sophie
********************************************
Sophie Brookover
Youth Services Librarian
Mount Laurel Library
100 Walt Whitman Avenue
Mount Laurel, NJ 08054
tel: 856.234.7319 x.336
e: sophie@mtlaurel.lib.nj.us
"There's more to life than books, you know, but not much more." -- The
Smiths
-----Original Message-----
From: Sheilah O'Connor [mailto:soconnor@tpl.toronto.on.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:02 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org; suengelm@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Where is the biography section?
We fought and lost this fight a few years ago.And really? It's not so bad.
We do mark them with a sticker and the kids browse the shelves if that is
what they inclined to do. ("Who do you want a biography of?" "I
dunno") and
we explain that they are sitting with other books on the same subject, so if
it is a famous astronomer, there her bio is, with the astronomy books.
In a way, I feel that it helps introduce the kids to the breadth of our
collection. The adults have a much more difficult time with this than the
kids do.!
Sheilah O'Connor
Torotno Public Library
>>> suengelm@yahoo.com 08/28/03
12:25AM >>>
Help! Our adult biographies are being recataloged
from 92 to their Dewey subject numbers (artists in
759, athletes in 796, etc)making it difficult for
customers to browse or help themselves. Our
children's staff has successfully fought this trend.
I am having trouble convincing anyone that YA
biographies should be cataloged 92. My director feels
that subject cataloging of biographies is what most
libraries do now. Is this true? What do you do if a
student just needs a biography of a specific number of
pages? Thanks in advance.
Susan Engelmann
North Kansas City Public Library
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Fields [mailto:linda@richfieldcity.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:02 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Where is the biography section?
Are you kidding!! First, that's the way its always been, but I know that's
no reason for still doing it. I can see this for artists and athletes, but
some people would be hard to catalog to a specific area, i.e. Jefferson and
Einstein. People just automatically go to the biographies with a last
name,
why make it harder on them.
Linda Fields, Richield Public Library
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From: Jan Drake [mailto:JDrake@minlib.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:02 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: book review sources for non-fiction books
My favorite after SLJ is Booklist. It covers kids and adults and helps me
stay current with whats happening in the adult world also.
Jan Drake
Children's Services
Wellesley Free Library
530 Washington St.
Wellesley MA 02482
781-235-1610
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From: seanps@george.net
[mailto:seanps@george.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:02 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Where is the biography section?
Well Susan,
I don't know if "most libraries" are doing it or not
but I have worked with both arrangements and I prefer
the subject cataloging myself. The system where I work
now (Memphis, TN) subject catalogs everything but also
puts a bright green spine label on the biographies
(Child, YA and Adult). Some branches just interfile the
biographies with other books on the same topic, letting
the neon green stickers call atention to the
biographies. Other branches choose to pull out their
biographies into a separate section but, within that
section, they are still arranged by Dewey numbers.
I find this much more useful than a separate biography
section arranged alphabetically by the subject's name
because, even if there is a length requirement, most
kids still have some idea of whether they want a
basketball player or musician or president, etc.
Besides, even in a 92-biography section, we didn't
arrange them by length. So I don't see how you can get
around the trial and error method, either in the
catalog or off the shelf, to find page numbers.
Hope that helps.
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Sean P. S. George, Senior Librarian- Youth Services
Memphis/Shelby County Public Library & Information
Center
Raleigh Branch Library
3157 Powers Road
Memphis, TN 38128
901-386-5333
georges@memphis.lib.tn.us
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Views expressed by the author do not necessarily
represent those of the Memphis and Shelby County Public
Library and Information Center.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:25:57 CDT, Susan Engelmann wrote:
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> I am having trouble convincing anyone that YA
> biographies should be cataloged 92. My director feels
> that subject cataloging of biographies is what most
> libraries do now. Is this true? What do you do if a
> student just needs a biography of a specific number of
> pages? Thanks in advance.
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Sean P. S. George
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