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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:39 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1195



    PUBYAC Digest 1195

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) special occasions
by "Roberta Meyer" <roberta@effinghamlibrary.org>
  2) Re: celebrating staff bdays & personal milestones
by Lorraine Burdick <lburdick@jcl.lib.wa.us>
  3) Reviewing reference and readers advisory services to children
by Ingrid Henderson <ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz>
  4) RE: book review sources for non-fiction books
by "Alissa Ulrich" <aulrich@pekin.net>
  5) STUMPER
by "Cathy Ensley" <cathye@latahlibrary.org>
  6) Grade 5 class visit
by "Patricia Chaput" <pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca>
  7) Thanks
by Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
  8) Stumper
by N Korsavidis <nkorsavidis@yahoo.com>
  9) STUMPER: Doll poem
by Julie Linneman <juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us>
 10) STUMPER: birds, snake and eggs
by Erin Helmrich <HelmrichE@aadl.org>
 11) Mysteries @ the library
by melissa.carr@kanawha.lib.wv.us
 12) Re: Where is the biography section?
by "Pamela Koehler" <pamkoehler@hotmail.com>
 13) really cute video/song
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 14) STUMPER help????
by Sallywilms@aol.com
 15) Classics for Reluctant Readers?
by Cathryn Clark-Dawe <cathryncdlib@yahoo.com>
 16) "Dear America" and "Sign of the Beaver"
by "Christine Attinasi" <chrisbeth@excite.com>
 17) adult summer reading clubs
by "L.Marsh" <lmarsh@mail.library.ns.ca>
 18) stumper: book of poetry
by "Mary D'Eliso" <mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us>
 19) Call for Proposals: Deadline Extended
by TEACHINGTALES@aol.com
 20) Re: Stumper -- neighbors with a pulley system
by Suzanne Klein <SKlein@EBPL.org>
 21) Re: Where is the biography section?
by Sue Kling <skling@mail.owls.lib.wi.us>
 22) Good reads for 9-12 year olds
by "Agnes Gorgon" <agorgon@whistlerlibrary.ca>
 23) Re: Stumper: Ghost in a burning mansion
by Tonya Cross <chi_tonya@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>
 24) Clarification of biography quote
by "Jennifer Salt" <jennifersalt@hotmail.com>
 25) BBW, Press Kit, and A Quick and Easy Guide to BBW for
by "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
 26) Re: Crayon games
by "Jennifer Salt" <jennifersalt@hotmail.com>
 27) touchy question
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 28) Re: Where is the biography section?
by "Jennifer Salt" <jennifersalt@hotmail.com>


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From: Roberta Meyer [mailto:roberta@effinghamlibrary.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:02 PM
To: PUBYAC
Subject: special occasions


Our staff isn't quite as large as Deanna's, but we still don't try to go
all out for everybody's birthdays.  Several years ago, we decided that
if you want treats for your birthday, YOU bring them.  That way you know
you will get something you like!  ; )  We do have one clerk who makes
birthday cards on the computer and has everyone sign them to give to the
birthday honoree.  If it's a special milestone, some of the staff might
decorate the birthday person's office or workspace, but that's entirely
up to someone who wants to take the initiative.

 

We do send flowers to staff members who are hospitalized for whatever
reason, and plants to those who have had a death in the family.  We give
a gift to our pages who graduate from high school while working here.
We have open houses for retirees, in addition to giving them a nice
gift.  We don't usually give gifts to other resignees, unless they have
been with us for a very long time.

 

I'd be interested in seeing what other libraries do for special
occasions.

 

***********************************Original
Message******************************

We have grown to a staff of 30+ (including BD timers) and are
struggling with how to recognize not only everybody's birthday but all
those important personal milestones (turning the Big 40, expecting
twins, staff  departures, etc...).  I'm wondering if your library
has come up with a nice way to fairly  honor such turning points
without draining everyone's pockets with continuous collections for
gifts?  Thanking you in advance, Deanna Piowaty Young Adult Librarian

************************************************************************
******

 

Roberta

******************************************

Roberta L. Meyer, Youth Services Librarian

Helen Matthes Library

100 East Market Avenue

Effingham, IL  62401

Phone:  217-342-2464 ext. 6

Fax:  217-342-2413

www.effinghamlibrary.org

roberta@effinghamlibrary.org

**************************************************

"The Library is the Answer.

               What's the Question?"

 


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From: Lorraine Burdick [mailto:lburdick@jcl.lib.wa.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:02 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: celebrating staff bdays & personal milestones


Deanna,

We have an interesting way to deal with this issue.  We have two staff
members entitled "The Birthday Fairies" who handle all parties.  They keep
track of when people's birthdays fall and plan a small party (usually cake,
coffee, ice cream and card).  When several people share birthdays in a
month, we celebrate on one day.  Most of the staff comes into the back room
and people switch for coverage out on the floor so everyone can celebrate.

The way we handle the money for these little parties is that the Fairies
have a container of candy bars in the staff break area.  There are several
varieties and they are sold for one dollar each.  We all know that you can
get candy bars for much less than a dollar, but when you need chocolate, it
is there.  You also know that you are supporting everyone's birthday
parties.  We have been doing this for years and it is quite successful.  We
always have chocolate available for "emergencies" and we have birthday
parties that no one feels put upon to hold. A win-win situation.

We did have a little mouse problem once (ick!) so we now keep the candy
bars in a large tin.

We celebrate in this way for other events besides birthdays in the same
way.  We have stopped giving gifts for graduations, etc. because it was
becoming a burden on staff to always "pay up".

I hope that this helps.
Lorraine Burdick

"Piowaty, Deanna" wrote:

> Hello All!
> We have grown to a staff of 30+ (including BD timers) and are
> struggling with how to recognize not only everybody's birthday but all
> those important personal milestones (turning the Big 40, expecting twins,
> staff
> departures, etc...).
>
> I'm wondering if your library has come up with a nice way to fairly
> honor such turning points without draining everyone's pockets with
> continuous
> collections for gifts?
>
> Thanking you in advance,
> Deanna Piowaty
> Young Adult Librarian

--
Lorraine Burdick
Jefferson County Library
P.O. Box 990, 620 Cedar Ave.
Port Hadlock, WA 98339

voice: (360) 385-6544
fax: (360) 385-7921

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From: Ingrid Henderson [mailto:ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:03 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: Reviewing reference and readers advisory services to children


Hi,
I didn't get much repsonse last time I sent this... and I know there are
lots of you out there doing wonderful reference and readers advisory things,
so I'd love to hear from you:

I am part of a team which is in the process of reviewing our reference and
readers advisory services to children.  I'm interested in hearing from
people in respect of:
* how you measure how successful you are at answering reference and readers
advice queries i.e. specific measures
* what strategies you have for improving your service in these areas
* whether you maintain information files - for what reasons, in what format,
how and why your use of such files has changed over time?
* what specific reference and readers advice tools you have identified and
implemented recently, or are considering developing and why, to help you
provide excellent service (could be electronic resources)
* any other fabulous ideas, suggestions, resources?

Many thanks in advance.
Please reply directly to me.  I will post a summary to the list if
requested.

Ingrid


Ingrid Henderson
Assistant Children's and Young Persons' Librarian
Nelson Public Libraries
Phone:  (03) 546-0419
Email:  ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz

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From: Alissa Ulrich [mailto:aulrich@pekin.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:03 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: book review sources for non-fiction books


Through an State Library LSTA grant I recently updated our collection on
non-fiction resources for teens. My primary focus was on purchasing
"popular" non-fiction (Who Moved My Cheese - for teens; Organizing from the
Inside Out -for teens) and other newer general interest topics, craft books,
social issues (i.e. updated information on homosexuality and sexually
transmitted diseases). The first thing I did was cross reference our current
collection with Senior High Catalog, then I started looking for more current
titles. I found PW to be more current "trendy" than SLJ or Booklist. But I
found good stuff in Booklist primarily. Another thing to note is that Barnes
and Noble.com will sometimes list reveiews from the journals. So sometimes a
teen would give me a title and I'd look on B&N and there was the text of the
review - saves sometimes if you're looking to beef up specific subjects.

Hope this helps!

Alissa Ulrich
Public Relations Coordinator/ ACTING Young Adult Specialist
Pekin Public Library
301 South Fourth St. Pekin, IL 61554
309-347-7111 ext. 226
aulrich@pekin.net


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From: Cathy Ensley [mailto:cathye@latahlibrary.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:35 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER


PubYACers,

 A patron wants to know the name and author of a story, published 15-20
years ago, set in Japan or China, about a horse that left no dust.
Thanks in advance.

 
Cathy Ensley

Youth Services Manager

Latah County Library District

110 S. Jefferson

Moscow, ID 83843

208 882 3925

cathye@latahlibrary.org 

 


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From: Patricia Chaput [mailto:pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:35 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Grade 5 class visit


Hi everyone,
Does anyone know of a good, fast and easy Library Game for Grade 5 students
to introduce them to the library (and make the experience fun)
Tks for your help
pchaput@tpl.toronto.on.ca


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From: Susan Engelmann [mailto:suengelm@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:35 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Thanks


Thank you to all who responded to my question about
biographies.  I have saved the e-mails and will birng
them to my next management team meeting.  The
consensus was overwhelmingly for leaving them in their
own section whether it be "92" or "Biography".

Susan



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From: N Korsavidis [mailto:nkorsavidis@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:36 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper


Collective Brain,

A patron came in with a book request and we could not
find the title. Perhaps you can help

It's a picture book about a young girl whose father
works in a junkyard. She, using parts from the
junkyard, fixes up an old school bus and plays in it
with her friends (even making believe it can fly)

Any ideas?

Nat


Natalie Korsavidis
Youth Services Librarian
Farmingdale Public Library

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From: Julie Linneman [mailto:juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:36 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER: Doll poem


We have a patron who is searching for a doll poem that she memorized in
elementary school (she was born in 1917, so it was probably in the 1920s),
and she states that the beginning lines are:

"A little rag doll, a bisque,
And a dollie imported from France..."

Spellings may not be accurate (rag doll or ragdoll? dollie or dolly?), but
we have searched in all of our children's poetry indexes, such as
Brewton's Index to Children's Poetry, as well as had our Reference
department check in their indexes.  We had no luck with an Internet search
either. If anyone can locate this poem, our patron would be very
appreciative.  Thank you for any help you can offer.


--
Julie Linneman
Coordinator of Programs and Outreach
Wichita Public Library
223 S. Main
Wichita, KS  67202
(316) 261-8590
fax: 262-4540
juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us

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From: Erin Helmrich [mailto:HelmrichE@aadl.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:36 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: STUMPER: birds, snake and eggs


Dear Collective Brain,

We have a patron looking for a story with the following description:
"blackbirds or crows prevent a snake from eating their eggs by making eggs
out of clay."  Does this ring any bells?

Thanks in advance!
Erin


Erin V. Helmrich
Teen Services Librarian
Ann Arbor District Library
343 S. Main St
Ann Arbor MI 48104
734-327-4227
helmriche@aadl.org


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From: melissa.carr@kanawha.lib.wv.us
[mailto:melissa.carr@kanawha.lib.wv.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:36 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Mysteries @ the library


I was wondering if anyone in public libraries has presented a program
for grades 2-6 on a mystery which is to be solved by using the
libraries resources?  If so, What type of mystery did you have?  Did
you reward them?  Did you incorporate any literary figures?

Any and all responses greatly appreciated ;-)
Thank you
missy


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From: Pamela Koehler [mailto:pamkoehler@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:36 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Where is the biography section?


Our biographies are still in the 921's and I think our patrons like it.  We
have a number of people who like reading biographies and don't come in with
a particular person in mind.  They like that they can browse shelves and see
what is available.

Pam Koehler
West Lafayette Indiana Public Library

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From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:jbaker93711@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:36 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: really cute video/song


thought you all would enjoy this!

http://www.cheekybeef.co.uk/library.html

~j.


~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library

"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun
fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is that?" "I
am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy


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From: Sallywilms@aol.com [mailto:Sallywilms@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:37 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER help????



I have a patron who is looking for a series of books she read in the 70's.
They are about three boys who use an abandoned bus in a junkyard as a
clubhouse.  I believe she said that these were mysteries, but it was one of
"those"
afternoons at the library, if you know what I mean....
She also thinks that the author's last name began with a "B".

I promised her a few weeks ago that I would post this to PUBYAC, but I
(obviously) did not.  Do you take points off if I admit that I didn't have
time to
do any checking this afternoon, and that I was reminded of this question as
I
read PUBYAC on my home computer?

Sally Williams
(hanging head in shame)


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From: Cathryn Clark-Dawe [mailto:cathryncdlib@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:37 PM
To: PUBYAC
Subject: Classics for Reluctant Readers?


Hi, A teacher who has 9th-12th graders in one class is
looking for  suggestions for "literary" or "classic"
books for reluctant readers.  Does anyone have
suggestions for what might work for a diverse group,
most of whom don't do much reading?

You may email me at cathryncdlib@yahoo.com and I'll
post a summary if there's any interest.

Thanks very much for your help.

Cathryn
Webster (NH) Free PL

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From: Christine Attinasi [mailto:chrisbeth@excite.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:37 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: "Dear America" and "Sign of the Beaver"


 Hello everyone:) I just had a patron (who is a fourth grade teacher) come
into the library looking for books similar to The Sign of the Beaver by
Elizabeth George Speare, and the Dear America series, only at a lower
reading level. I checked our catalog and Amazon, but didn't really come up
with anything similar to these books. If you have any suggestions please
send them to me directly or to the list. Thanks, and have a nice holiday!
Christine     Christine E. AttinasiYouth Services LibrarianOntario Public
Library1850 Ridge Rd.Ontario, NY 14519Phone: (315) 524-8381Fax: (315)
524-5838E-mail: cattinasi@pls-net.org



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From: L.Marsh [mailto:lmarsh@mail.library.ns.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:37 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: adult summer reading clubs


Hi everyone,
Hope that all your summer reading went well.  We had a good time:)  I would
like some information on how an adult reading club may be conducted.  Our
reading program covers preschool, school age and teens.  I think it would
be great to get the adults into the fun.  If you have you have had an adult
reading club, how was it organized, what incentives if any did you use, and
what problems or successes did you have.  You may email me at
lmarsh@mail.library.ns.ca
Thanks in advance
Lynda


M.Lynda Marsh
Administrator Youth Services
Colchester-East Hants Regional Library
754 Prince Street
Truro, Nova Scotia
B2N 1G9
Telephone (902)895-1625
Fax (902)895-7149

"What we want is to see the child in pursuit of knowledge, and not
knowledge in pursuit of the child." George Bernard Shaw

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From: Mary D'Eliso [mailto:mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:37 PM
To: pubyac
Subject: stumper: book of poetry


Hi PUBYAC --

We have a patron who is looking for a book that she got from another
library years ago.  She read it to her children, who are now in their
30s.
It's a book of poems, illustrated in brilliantly colored collages, a la
Keats or Lionni. 
One of the poems goes like this:
Rinkum Dinkum Flinkum Flagon
I'm out to catch a dreadful dragon
One that's hairy, scary, scaly  [?]
One that eats [?] [?] children daily.  ...

I've checked all of our print and non-print poetry resources, Google,
Children's Lit Database.
Any memories stirred?
Thanks for considering this.
-Mary
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mary D'Eliso, Children's Librarian Monroe County Public Library
mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us Bloomington, Indiana
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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From: TEACHINGTALES@aol.com [mailto:TEACHINGTALES@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:37 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Call for Proposals: Deadline Extended



Hello all,

This just came in from the Sharing the Fire Conference Co-chairs. (see
below)
STF is a warm, welcoming and educational conference. We welcome proposals
from all areas: storytelling, puppetry, music, education, folklore, library
services, theater, etc. Please consider joining us this year.

Warm wishes,
Karen Chace

Headline: STF PROPOSAL DEADLINE EXTENDED TO SEPTEMBER 8, 2003.

We are extending the deadline for workshop, olio, and swap proposals in
response to many who have told us how busy their summers have been.
Proposals must be postmarked by Monday, Sept. 8, 2003. We appreciate the
time and creativity that continue to provide Sharing the Fire with excellent
and
diverse offerings.

Proposals must be postmarked by Monday, Sept. 8, 2003. STF will be March
19-21, 2004. We appreciate the time and creativity that continue to provide
STF with excellent and diverse offerings.

For details on Sharing the Fire and how to submit workshop proposals,
audition tapes for the olio storytelling concert, or to serve as story swap
host, see the August Museletter, the Call for Proposals flyer, or
www.lanes.org <A HREF"http://www.lanes.org/">League for the Advancement of
New England Storytelling</A>


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From: Suzanne Klein [mailto:SKlein@EBPL.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:37 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Stumper -- neighbors with a pulley system


Thank you to Beth Tarr, Shari Haber, Lisa Dennis, Christina Phipps, & Jen
Marin for their responses to my question about the book featuring girl
next-door-neighbors with a pulley system rigged between their bedroom
windows.  That said, the book is not any of the following: The Seeing Summer
by Jeannette Eyerly; Jack and Jill by Louisa May Alcott; Secret of the
Emerald Star by Phyllis A. Whitney; Two are Better Than One by Carol Ryrie
Brink.

The book is an old-fashioned novel about two girls who are great friends and
next-door-neighbors.  The most memorable thing (to me and my friend, Laura)
is that the girls had a pulley in between their bedroom windows and would
send things back and forth.

I enjoyed about ten other replies from people saying something like, "Oh, I
remember reading that book too!  I just loved it, but I can't remember the
title or author for the life of me.  If you find out what it is, please let
me know!"  So, fellow Pubyaccers, we implore you: Keep thinking!!!

-- Suzanne
Suzanne M. Klein
Youth Services Librarian
East Brunswick Public Library
2 Civic Center Drive
East Brunswick NJ 08816
Phone: (732) 390 6789
Fax: (732) 390 6796
E-mail: sklein@ebpl.org <mailto:sklein@ebpl.org>


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From: Sue Kling [mailto:skling@mail.owls.lib.wi.us]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:38 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Where is the biography section?


HI!
The library that I worked in changed all the Dewey to subject numbers
and then they changed them back.  The patrons young and old could not
find the biographies they were looking for.  The public library I
presently work in uses 921 as do all the schools.  I'm not sure the
general public will understand the other arrangement.

                          'hope this helps!   Sue

Susan Engelmann wrote:

> Help!  Our adult biographies are being recataloged
> from 92 to their Dewey subject numbers (artists in
> 759, athletes in 796, etc)making it difficult for
> customers to browse or help themselves.  Our
> children's staff has successfully fought this trend.
> I am having trouble convincing anyone that YA
> biographies should be cataloged 92.  My director feels
> that subject cataloging of biographies is what most
> libraries do now.  Is this true?  What do you do if a
> student just needs a biography of a specific number of
> pages?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Susan Engelmann
> North Kansas City Public Library
>
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From: Agnes Gorgon [mailto:agorgon@whistlerlibrary.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:38 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: BIB: Good reads for 9-12 year olds


Hello PUBYACK-ers,

I would like to thank all of those who have replied to me about good books
for 9-12 year olds.
Some of you have asked me to compile a list and send it to them, so here it
is.  Although it has not been formatted, all the information is included.

Hope this helps.

Agnes :)

Agnes Gorgon
Librarian, Whistler Public Library
PO Box 95
Whistler BC V0N 1B0
Tel: 604-932-5564
Email: agorgon@whistlerlibrary.ca

-___________________________________________________________________________
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Books for 9-12 year olds

The City of Ember - Jean DuPrau
Mr. Popper's Penquins - Atwater
Jade Green - Naylor
Pedro & ME Judd??
Midnight for Charlie Bone
Wizard's Hall
The Secret of Platform 13 or anything else by Eva Ibbotson
Don Gallo [author]
Holes
Flying Solo - Fletcher
No More Dead Dogs - Korman
Running Out of Time - Haddix
Tuck Everlasting - Babbitt
Shiloh - Naylor
There's a Dead Man Following My Sister Around - Vande Velde
Tria and the Great Star Rescue
Anything by Eric Walters
Everest Book 1: The Contest
Everest Book 2: the Climb
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Sharon Creech Walk Two Moons
Roland Smith books
Dan Gutman books
The Power of Un by Nancy Etchemendy
Because of Winn Dixie by Kate DiCamillo
Help! I'm a Prisoner in the Library! by Eth Clifford
Frindle by Andrew Clements

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From: Tonya Cross [mailto:chi_tonya@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:38 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Stumper: Ghost in a burning mansion


Thanks to Cathy Burnsed, Elaine Morgan, and Jen Marin, who responded to
my stumper.  There have been two titles that have been suggested as
answers; "The Ghosts of Lee House" by Frances Priddy, and "The Ghosts"
by Antonia Barber.  I picked up one title today, and am bound and
determined to find the other somehow.  (It's proving to be a bit
difficult!)

I really appreciate this list, and all the help I have received from it
over the years!

Tonya Cross

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Tonya Cross wrote:

> I can't remember if I ever asked for help with this personal stumper,
or
> not, so please forgive me if this is another "summer re-run."  When I
> was probably 12 or 13 (1979ish) one of my "rewards" was getting money
to
> buy new paperbacks.  One of the books that I remember buying was about
a
> girl who's family buys/becomes caretakers of a mansion or hotel that
had
> burned.  The girl "befriends" a boy who turns out to be a ghost who
was
> killed in the fire that destroyed the building.  I have searched
> Novelist, our library's catalog, and the books by my favorite
"teenhood"
> authors all to no avail.  I don't seem to have kept the book (unless
> it's in the boxes that are STILL in my mother's garage...)
>
> Does this story sound familiar to anyone?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tonya Cross
> Reference Assistant
> Dayton Metro Library
> Main Library Children's Room
> Dayton, OH
>
> chi_tonya@dayton.lib.oh.us
>

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From: Jennifer Salt [mailto:jennifersalt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:38 PM
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Clarification of biography quote


I realize that I sent my response to "where are biographies" with incomplete
information. A very unlibrarian thing to do. My apologies.

I mentioned that shelving the biographies all together, but by Dewey number
alleviated some, but not all problems. I didn't mention what the problem
was. It was basically that having two sections using the same filing system
confused a good number of people. Patrons needing a biography would go into
the "regular" non-fiction section and assume that their book was not in the
library. Patrons needing "regular" non-fiction would go into the biography
section and conclude that their book was not available. A good number of
them came back to the reference desk, but there are always people who don't
ask for help--or who feel too foolish to return to the reference desk if
they have already asked a librarian for help once. However, people seemed
disinclined to complain about this system once they got over their initial
confusion, and it did allow the students doing biography reports to browse
through one section. It is a way to have Dewey Decimal classification and a
discrete section for biographies all at the same time.

I haven't been at my current job long enough to assess how well an
alphabetical biography system works. Perhaps, I shall long for Dewey once
the biography book reports start.

--Jennifer


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From: Don Wood [mailto:dwood@ala.org]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:38 PM
To: publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
Subject: BBW, Press Kit, and A Quick and Easy Guide to BBW for


August 28, 2003

The message below is from Larra Clark, ALA Press Officer.  Please share
this with your colleagues.  Banned Books Week is a local celebration!
The most interesting stories are always at the local library.

Dear IFACTION subscribers:

As you know, Banned Books Week is now less than a month away. The
American Library Association has sent press materials nationwide and is
reaching out to national media to remind people not to take for granted
our Freedom to Read. Attached are links and documents developed by the
ALA that we hope will be helpful for you at the local level to extend
our media reach. We hope you will reach out to your local media with
press releases and/or the op-ed, personalized with messages that fit
your library and/or state activities.

Banned Books Week press kit materials
http://tinyurl.com/libj

A Banned Books Week sample op/ed can be found at

A Quick and Easy Guide to Banned Books Week for Librarians
http://www.ala.org/bbooks/forlibrarians

We also would love to hear back from you with examples of how you are
celebrating Banned Books Week this year, so that we can share this in
our news stories. If you are willing to serve as a spokesperson, let us
know, so you can be on our list for interviews during the coming month.
Please keep us apprised of your successes and share any feedback on how
you use the materials -- or anything else you think we should know. In
the future, we hope to create more materials like these for your use.

Thanks.  

All the best,

Larra Larra Clark
Press Officer
Public Information Office
American Library Association
50 E. Huron
Chicago, IL  60611-2795
Toll-free:  800-545-2433 x5043
Direct:  312-280-5043
Fax:  312-944-8520
Email:  lclark@ala.org
@ your library

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From: Jennifer Salt [mailto:jennifersalt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:38 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Crayon games


This isn't a game exactly, but I've had a lot of sucess with covering a
table with a plain paper tablecloth from the dollar story and having the
kids sit or stand around the table, drawing and\or writing whatever they
like. Kids of various ages (preschool-grades 5 or 6) seem to enjoy working
together to fill in all that white space. It's a nice low-key activity.

--Jennifer


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From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:jbaker93711@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:38 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: touchy question


hello all!

i have a question on a touchy topic. we have a group
of severely developmentally disabled adults who have
started visiting our library on a fairly regular
basis. they usually come to the children's
room--probably because it's a friendlier, more
comfortable environment than the rest of the building.
they are accompanied by a couple of caregivers that
supervise them and make sure they don't hurt
themselves.

although they can be a bit loud at times they don't
really get any louder that most of our other patrons.
several of them mumble a lot and one occasionally
howls or moans. again, they are not louder than some
(or at times most) of our other library users but
having them here makes the other patrons (especially,
but not exclusively, kids) in the room uncomfortable.

they don't really come in to use our materials.
although i have occasionally seen one of them looking
at a book with a caregiver, for the most part they
just park their wheelchairs in the room and sit. once
or twice they've come in during one of our storytime
(which is held in the room for lack of separate
space). their presense was a huge distraction to the
program and i ended up finishing early.

i guess my question is whether or not it would be
appropriate for me to ask them to make their visit in
the adult area. we don't have any rules about needing
to be a child, with a child or using children's
materials in order to use this room (although we have
discussed it). i don't have any grounds for actually
kicking them out because they haven't done anything
wrong. so asking them to move to another room for no
other reason than they make others feel uncomfortable
feels like i'd be treading on their rights to be here
too. but at the same time i'm concerned about the
needs and comfort of the other users.

so...what are your views on this and if you think it
would be okay to say something, what exactly would you
say?

TIA,
~j.


~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library

"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun
fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is that?" "I
am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy


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From: Jennifer Salt [mailto:jennifersalt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:39 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Where is the biography section?


My current library system has different areas for adult nonfiction and
children's nonfiction. At the end of each non-fiction area is a biography
section. Books are shelved alphabetically according to the person they are
about. Non-fiction YA books, including biographies, are interfiled with
adult nonfiction.

The library system I used to work for interfiled biographies by Dewey Number
with the rest of the non-fiction books. It was horrible! For one thing,
nearly every person who came in for a biography complained--and they
complained, it seemed, _every_ time they checked out a biography. The staff
didn't like it either. For one thing, we didn't enjoy listening to all those
disgruntled patrons. For another, much of our biography circulation was
because of "My teacher says I have to read a biography." This is the sort of
reference query many of us liked to answer by browsing the shelves with the
child, and having no biography section made this sort of response
impossible. And, patrons seemed at a loss to deal with our system. Our older
biographies were still in 921 and we sometimes (but not without guilt) fell
back on this section at the expense of up to date information. Patrons
seemed to feel more comfortable with the 921's even if they were old books.

The powers that be seemed to realize what a headache it all was because when
I left some libraries had created a biography section, albeit one still set
up by Dewey numbers. This did alleviate some problems, but not all. At least
it was better.

As to what "most libraries are doing" Many libraries use the term YA even
though it only confuses the public. Interfiling biographies by Dewey Number
may be another form of the same fallacy.

--Jennifer

>From: Susan Engelmann <suengelm@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>To: pubyac@prairienet.org
>Subject: Where is the biography section?
>Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:25:57 CDT
>
>Help!  Our adult biographies are being recataloged
>from 92 to their Dewey subject numbers (artists in
>759, athletes in 796, etc)making it difficult for
>customers to browse or help themselves.  Our
>children's staff has successfully fought this trend.
>I am having trouble convincing anyone that YA
>biographies should be cataloged 92.  My director feels
>that subject cataloging of biographies is what most
>libraries do now.  Is this true?  What do you do if a
>student just needs a biography of a specific number of
>pages?  Thanks in advance.
>
>Susan Engelmann
>North Kansas City Public Library
>


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