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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1211
 
PUBYAC Digest 1211

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Help, Creative Writing Contest
by "Wanda Jones" <wjones98@hotmail.com>
2) RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
by "Pamela Koehler" <pamkoehler@hotmail.com>
3) Hooked on Phonics
by Cynthia Wray <CWWray@ci.fargo.nd.us>
4) monitoring children
by "Roberta Meyer" <roberta@effinghamlibrary.org>
5) YA Computer Software
by "ysstaff" <ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us>
6) Re: Yu-Gi-Oh!
by "Pat Rainey" <pat.rainey@medina.lib.oh.us>
7) Re: YA Teen Read Week Program
by Jessica Cammer <jcammer@rpl.regina.sk.ca>
8) RE: Hats Off to Reading
by "Carole Fiore" <cfiore@earthlink.net>
9) Re: YA Teen Read Week Program
by Kathy Nelson <knelson@kckpl.lib.ks.us>
10) Hawafena/Singing Ad Update
by "Gruninger, Laura" <lgruning@MCL.org>
11) RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
by "Elizabeth Burns" <eburns@scils.rutgers.edu>
12) RE: Computer hours
by "Mary Ann Gilpatrick" <MGilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us>
13) RE: Managing Student Assistants
by "Ellen Little" <elittle@pts.edu>
14) Children with disabilities - storytimes
by "Nicole Morgan" <listmessages@sbcglobal.net>
15) RE: Computer hours
by Sue Ridnour <sue.ridnour@flower-mound.com>
16) RE: computer timing software
by "Ellen Little" <elittle@pts.edu>
17) Re: touchy question
by "Jess and John Dafoe" <jdafoe@telus.net>
18) Children's gardening
by Carol Smith <csmith@cromaine.org>
19) RE: Galleys/Advance copies
by Susan Lempke <slempke@nileslibrary.org>
20) Re: Hats Off to Reading
by "gwendolyn zachary" <gwen_zachary@hotmail.com>
21) Re: Hats Off to Reading
by TEACHINGTALES@aol.com
 
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From: Wanda Jones [SMTP:wjones98@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:28 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Help, Creative Writing Contest
Hi,
I am trying to pull together a creative writing contest for youth ages 7-18.
I was wondering if anyone has done this and if they would be willing to
offer advice. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Wanda Jones
Children's Librarian
Georgetown Neighborhood Library
Washington, DC 20007
wjones98@hotmail.com
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From: Pamela Koehler [SMTP:pamkoehler@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:28 PM
To: sue.ridnour@flower-mound.com; pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
 
I totally agree. I could not believe that in a teen magazine they had a
perfume named FCUK. Our circulation desk person asked if maybe the f was
silent. I thought maybe I was just too old to appreciate stuff like this,
but everone I asked agreed with me. To me it was over the top..
Pam, who couldn't find the musical ad anyway.
 
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From: Cynthia Wray [SMTP:CWWray@ci.fargo.nd.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:28 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: Hooked on Phonics
 
Hi Everyone,
I rarely get a chance to read this listserve, so excuse me if I've missed
this discussion before.
We have had many requests for Hooked on Phonics. I'm trying to decide if it
would work to circulate it. I would appreciate any advice from the
collective brain, pro or con. I've never seen the sets, is it possible to
break them down into smaller units to circulate so you're not circulating a
$299 set? How about the workbook component, do you have trouble with kids
writing in it? If the sets are worth purchasing, which ones are the best?
Has anyone had negative comments from local teachers?
As you can tell, I have no clue and need your help.
Thanks in advance,
Cindy
Cynthia L. Wray
Head of Children's Services
Fargo Public Library
Fargo ND 701-241-1495
cwwray@ci.fargo.nd.us
 
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From: Roberta Meyer [SMTP:roberta@effinghamlibrary.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:29 PM
To: PUBYAC
Subject: monitoring children
 
Due to several incidents that have happened at our library lately, we
are going to look into instituting a written policy regarding the
monitoring of young children. If you have a written policy that you
would like to share regarding the supervision of children in the library
(and I know this issue has been discussed quite a bit recently), please
e-mail me a copy at roberta@effinghamlibrary.org.
Thanks so much!
Roberta
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Roberta L. Meyer, Youth Services Librarian
Helen Matthes Library
100 East Market Avenue
Effingham, IL 62401
Phone: 217-342-2464 ext. 6
Fax: 217-342-2413
www.effinghamlibrary.org
roberta@effinghamlibrary.org
**************************************************
"The Library is the Answer.
What's the Question?"
 
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From: ysstaff [SMTP:ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:29 PM
To: yalsa-bk@ala.org; PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: YA Computer Software
I would like to start a collection of YA software and am wondering if
any other libraries do this. We have educational software and games for
children, but nothing in YA. I am curious if you just carry educational
items, or games as well (ACT prep vs. SIMS).
I'd also like info on checkout limits and budget spent per year on this
collection.
Thank you - and please repond to me directly at
katig@eauclaire.lib.wi.us.
Kati Tvaruzka
Youth Services Librarian
 
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Youth Services
L.E. Phillips Memorial Public Library
Eau Claire, WI 54701
(715)839-5007 - voice
(715)833-5310 - fax
www.eauclaire.lib.wi.us
ysstaff@eauclaire.lib.wi.us
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From: Pat Rainey [SMTP:pat.rainey@medina.lib.oh.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:29 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Yu-Gi-Oh!
I just finished my second Yu-Gi-Oh! program, and we had 49 people in our
meeting
room dueling all over the place. This was a program for ages 7-10, because
our
YA program was for ages ll-18, and we were swamped with requests. Two
improvements I made since the first program were:
I used stick-on labels and had the kids wear a name tag with their first
name,
so they could call each other by name when they dueled, and I could also see
their names.
I designated a certain area of the room for those people who were "looking
for
partners" so they would know when kids were finished playing. Many parents
thanked me profusely for offering this. A neighborhood library is lots less
threatening for the kids and parents than a large toy story where you don't
know
who else will be there.
My 15 year-old was the resident expert. I think I'll need to learn the game
if
I'm going to do it again, which I've been asked to do. Other than setting
up
the room, it's not much work--I had VERY few problems (and only minor ones)
with
the kids playing the game. We'll probably do one a season as long as the
 
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From: Jessica Cammer [SMTP:jcammer@rpl.regina.sk.ca]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:29 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: YA Teen Read Week Program
Hi,
At my library, we are having a bad poetry contest where the entrants must
use the word "orange" in the poem. We are also having a poetry open mic
event at a local coffee shop to attract the more serious poets in the
city.
Hope this helps!
Jessica
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Erin Lund wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Anyone have any YA programs they are planning for Teen Read Week that the=
> y would like to share? I am considering holding a Teen Poetry Slam and w=
> ould love to hear any comments from anyone who has hosted a teen poetry s=
> lam at their library or any other related events--pros, cons, "heads up" =
> type issues and the like. Thank you, in advance, for your help!
>
> Erin Smith
> Children's Librarian--Fargo Public Library
> esmith@ci.fargo.nd.us
> erinleann77@hotmail.com
 
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From: Carole Fiore [SMTP:cfiore@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:29 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Hats Off to Reading
Take a look at the Florida Library Youth Program 2003 web site. Our
theme for the summer was Hats off to Reading. You will find lots of
books and program ideas as well as on line games and activities. Please
feel free to link to this site.
http://dlis.dos.state.fl.us/bld/flyp2003/flyp/index1_new.html
Carole Fiore
 
 
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From: Kathy Nelson [SMTP:knelson@kckpl.lib.ks.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:29 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: YA Teen Read Week Program
Hi Erin,
At our library we are planning to put together a program to kickoff Teen
Read
Week based on an idea we came across in VOYA. We haven't worked out all of
the
details yet, but for more information please visit:
http:/brdfs.voya.com/MVbrro/MVProgram.pdf
Kathy Nelson
Youth Services Associate
KCKPL West Wyandotte Branch
1737 N 82 St
Kansas City, KS 66112
913-596-5800
Erin Lund wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Anyone have any YA programs they are planning for Teen Read Week that the=
> y would like to share? I am considering holding a Teen Poetry Slam and w=
> ould love to hear any comments from anyone who has hosted a teen poetry s=
> lam at their library or any other related events--pros, cons, "heads up" =
> type issues and the like. Thank you, in advance, for your help!
>
> Erin Smith
> Children's Librarian--Fargo Public Library
> esmith@ci.fargo.nd.us
> erinleann77@hotmail.com
 
 
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From: Gruninger, Laura [SMTP:lgruning@MCL.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:30 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: Hawafena/Singing Ad Update
Sorry to those of you who went looking for the singing Clairol Herbal
Essence shampoo ad and didn't find it. It was in our October issue of
Teen People magazine. Many of you said it didn't run in your issues.
Some people did find it though. It is a thick pull-out style ad and when
you open it up, it sings "Howafena" very dramatically. (that's an
ingredient in the shampoo)
I tried to do a bit more sleuthing about this and searched our
Lexis/Nexis Database at length. I didn't find anything on this ad or on
musical ads in magazines generally. I found lots on: musical internet
pop-up ads, the controversial TV ads for shampoo with the orgasmic
sounding woman in the shower, other TV ads Clairol uses, and plenty
about Britney Spears and Americn Idol partnerships with Clairol. I
thought sure the word Hawafena would be unique enough to turn up
anything published. It only came up as the ingredient.
-L
Laura Gruninger, Children's Librarian
Mercer County Library System, Lawrence HQ
Lawrenceville, NJ 08648
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From: Elizabeth Burns [SMTP:eburns@scils.rutgers.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:30 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Hawafena/Singing ad
I jumped out of my chair when I heard the music -- didn't realize
that it was coming from the magazine!
I took out the ad but held onto it and used it during library
classes for the upper grades (6,7,8). After the initial "its cool"
we talked about the ad in detail -- why the company was targeting
teens, the cost of the ad, was it effective, what word was it
singing, etc. I'll be putting it in the vertical file under
"marketing".
Liz Burns
eburns@scils.rutgers.edu
 
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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick [SMTP:MGilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:30 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Computer hours
An excitable boy, they all said ...
Mary Ann Gilpatrick
Walla Walla Public Library
mgilpatrick@ci.walla-walla.wa.us
 
 
I once had a storyhour child reach in and grab our library guinea pig. I
heard the terrified squealing and told him that this was not allowed.
His mother said that in her house if I child asks politely and says
please he is allowed to have his request "respected". He had asked me
earlier and I told him no. Oh and she does not use the word no with her
children. I rarely do but a squiming panicked pet is a serious manner. I
explained that even though the pig was tame she could bite if cornered
and she was also pregnant and should not be handled. There is also the
matter that I am allergic and cannot bring her out. She called later to
say her son was very upset and she still did not see why her son could
not handle our pets since they are public animals since they are in a
public library. She finally chose to not come to storytime. She is now a
music teacher and would like to see how she deals with issues.
 
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From: Ellen Little [SMTP:elittle@pts.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:30 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: Managing Student Assistants
I have graduate students that I train to shelve & they aren't very good at it!!! One thing I do to double-check what they've done is have them leave the books they put on the shelf either stick out an inch or two, or turn them on their side. Then when they're done, I go with them to the shelves & we look at their mistakes together.
Ellen Little
Circulation Supervisor
Barbour Library
Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
412-441-3304 x2274
elittle@pts.edu
 
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From: Nicole Morgan [SMTP:listmessages@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:30 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Children with disabilities - storytimes
Hi all,
Although we have had many children with disabilities attend our storytimes
over the years, this year we are making our first attempt at an outreach
program to a special education preschool. We hope to plan these storytimes
to be particularly accommodating to children with disabilities, while still
fun and interesting.
We are fortunate to have several staff members with relevant special
education experience (I am one of them) and have gathered ideas from several
librarians around the country, for which we are very grateful. We also are
fortunate to be working with a very enthusiastic and experienced teacher.
However, I'm sure that there are many of you out there who can throw in more
suggestions and recommendations! If you have planned any similar storytimes
and have any ideas to share, please pass them along. We are most interested
in specific books, songs, activities, etc that work especially well or any
adaptations that are very meaningful. For example, one librarian in
Syracuse shared that she loves to use real fruit with Carle's Hungry
Caterpillar.
We are working with children ages 3-5 in groups of 5-10 children. There is
a large range of abilities and needs, including visual impairments,
physical, emotional/behavioral, autism, etc, and not all children are in the
special education program. Of course, we know that the biggest thing is to
be flexible, but if anyone has any ideas to share, please pass them on!
Nicole Morgan
Lakewood Public Library
Lakewood OH
 
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From: Sue Ridnour [SMTP:sue.ridnour@flower-mound.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:30 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: RE: Computer hours
 
We get requests like this all the time! People want you to change the rules,
procedures or set-up to accommodate their particular needs, regardless of
how it might impact others. Sometimes you can understand where the request
is coming from, and you'd like to be able to help, but for whatever reason
you can't, and they understand when you explain why. You hit the nail on
the head for those other times, like this one -- the parent is trying to
abdicate their parental role to you. Stand firm! Don't let her bully you
with the "we won't be able to come to the library anymore" threat! You can
offer her assistance in solving this problem, by telling her what other
parents have done in the same situation, or any other suggestion you can
think of, but ultimately it's her job, not yours.
This is a pet peeve of mine at the moment because I am dealing with a mother
who wants me to change the parameters of a program for school-age children
so that her preschool son can participate, because he "doesn't understand"
why his sister is enrolled and he isn't. Hello?! Is he going to do
everything his sister does, all the way through their childhood? You can
just look at the poor sister and see she needs a break from this kid who is
tyrannizing the entire family because his mother can't tell him "no."
Sorry to rant, hope some of it was supportive,
Sue
 
Sue Ridnour
Children's Services Manager
Flower Mound (TX) Public Library
972.874.6153 (phone)
972.874.6466 (fax)
sue.ridnour@flower-mound.com
 
 
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From: Ellen Little [SMTP:elittle@pts.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:30 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: RE: computer timing software
Have you tried what my public library does? They "check out" the computer to the user by checking out a cardboard card that must be displayed while you are using the computer. If the "due date" when the card is checked out is for one hour from the check out time & fines are charged for overdues, it might discourage some of your problem at very little expense.
Ellen Little
Circulation Supervisor
Barbour Library
Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
412-441-3304 x2274
elittle@pts.edu
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From: Jess and John Dafoe [SMTP:jdafoe@telus.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:31 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: touchy question
I thought that I would put in my two cents worth.
I spent 10 years working with adults and children with all sorts of
abilities or disabilities if you like. My biggest question is why are a
"group" of developmentally disabled adults hanging out in the children's
section in their wheel chairs doing nothing much in the first place?
Regardless of the so called "mental age" that many would speak of, someone
who has been on this earth over 21 years is an adult and it just isn't
normal for a group of adults to hang out doing nothing in a children's area.
How would you feel if it were you? These kinds of activities often say more
about the caregiver's lack of understanding than the individual's desire to
be there. I worked with many adults who enjoy being around children and I
helped to find lots of volunteer placements for them so that they could do
the work that they loved without being seen or treated as a child.
This being said, as a librarian and not their worker it is pretty difficult
to iron out. Maybe there could be creative solutions. Perhaps they could
come individually or in smaller groups and could help out with their worker,
tidying shelves, putting puzzles away, or even stamping discards at a table
in that section. Often you find that the caregiver is simply looking for
somewhere to go because we all know that being part of the community is
everyone's right, but this is not integration, there are no community
connections being made here. I guess that I would start by talking to the
individuals (even if they can't talk back to you their worker will be
listening). Ask them if there are books or other library resources that
they are interested in, perhaps a tour of the library, do they have a
library card, find out what they like to do. I can pretty much guarantee
that just sitting in the children's room doing nothing is not going to be
it.
Good luck.
Jess Dafoe
Children's Services
Terrace Public Library
Canada
 
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From: Carol Smith [SMTP:csmith@cromaine.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:31 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Children's gardening
 
This year we started a children's gardening group and planted a
beanpole teepee that was used for a Teepee Tales Storytime in August for
younger kids. That was a great hit with 20 attendees. We also planted
pumpkins, corn, tomatoes, lettuce, cukes, and potatoes. There were
enough beans for anyone who wanted them and now that they're ending the
morning glories that were planted with them are blooming and it still
looks great. Our maintenance man put in two raised beds for us which I
divided into an area for each child to plant whatever s/he wanted. We
started out slow with only 4 signed up but picked up kids all summer
long. The trouble with a summer program is vacation. We met every week
to start the garden and then every other week during the summer. At the
most there were 6 kids showing up with others signed up but coming
sporadically. Every time we met we weeded, watered, and did a nature
craft. We planted the potatoes in a stack of four tires and we hope to
have something to share in a couple of weeks. Now that fall is here I've
changed the name of the program to Nature Crafters and am going to use
the garden next year to grow the items we will use to craft with during
the winter. Everyone who has seen the garden is excited and I believe
that next year the program will be more popular.
--
Carol J. Smith, MLIS
Youth Librarian
Cromaine District Library
P.O. Box 308
3688 N. Hartland Rd.
Hartland, MI 48353
810.632.5200
FAX 810.632.7351
 
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From: Susan Lempke [SMTP:slempke@nileslibrary.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:31 PM
To: 'pubyac@prairienet.org'
Subject: RE: Galleys/Advance copies
I feel strongly that galleys and reader's copies should not be added to
library collections. Authors and editors sometimes make changes after these
are printed, and it's not fair to them to put unfinished work in the
library. It's always a dilemma to know quite what to do with them, since
they look so shiny and new that you hate to just toss them. I usually just
give them away to individual children.
--Susan Dove Lempke
 
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From: gwendolyn zachary [SMTP:gwen_zachary@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:31 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Reading
Hi Vickie,
Here is an idea for the whole school to participate in. The students in our
school system love to wear caps and hats, but it is against the District
rules. As a special treat some of the principals will allow a "hat day" for
the kids. Everyone has a cap or hat they like, and you should see some of
the caps and hats the students wear to school!
Why not have a crazy hat day during the book fair where kids can wear a hat
or cap and maybe even dress their hat or cap up to represent their favorite
book. At some time during the afternoon go on the PA system and have
everyone take their hats off in silence for 15 seconds to celebrate the day.
 
Gwen
 
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From: TEACHINGTALES@aol.com [SMTP:TEACHINGTALES@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:31 PM
To: pubyac@prairienet.org; vickis@yellowbananas.com
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Reading
In a message dated 9/10/2003 5:25:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20
vickis@yellowbananas.com writes:
 
>=20
> HELP!!!!! Our elementary (K-4) school is having a book fair with the=20
> theme, "Hats Off to Reading".
Hi Vicki,
We just had a thread about hats on our storytelling listserv. Here is
some=20
information I put together.
Here is a fun song:
My Hat, It Has Three Corners
My hat has three corners (touch head)
My hat, it has three corners (touch each elbow on corners)
Three corners has my hat (touch each elbow on corners)
And if it hadn=E2=80=99t had three corners
It wouldn't be my hat.
 
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