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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1248

    PUBYAC Digest 1248

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Thanks for Look-alikes author
by "Sharon Castanteen" <sharoncast48@hotmail.com>
  2) stumper: Halloween story
by "Mary D'Eliso" <mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us>
  3) Book clubs
by "Debbie Allen" <dallen@rla.lib.il.us>
  4) ALice in Wonderland
by "Kaye Bowes" <kbear97@hotmail.com>
  5) Six Character-Trait Bookmarks/Posters/Banners
by "M. Mills" <mmills@leaguecitylibrary.org>
  6) Stumper: Poem/Verse version of Ugly Duckling or Rumpelstiltskin
by Domenica Simpson <dsimpson@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
  7) PUBYAC slowdown
by "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
  8) Stumper: Tiki-Tiki_Tiki Room-Solved!
by "Elizabeth Andresen" <e.andresen@vlc.lib.mi.us>
  9) Stumper - Story told from object's point of view
by "Carol Chatfield" <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
 10) cut & tell story--cat
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 11) 2 stumpers
by Georgi Sandgren <ivylane3@yahoo.com>
 12) Pubyac Thank You!
by bonnie webster <msbonnie2562@yahoo.com>
 13) Hindi As a Second Language Information
by "M. Mills" <mmills@leaguecitylibrary.org>
 14) PUBYAC-State Books Question
by "Bart Pisapia" <PisapiaB@mail.co.leon.fl.us>
 15) Compilation of freebies that I found
by "Kapila Sankaran" <ksankaran@springfieldpubliclibrary.com>
 16) computer system for a small school library?
by "Suzie Riddle" <szriddle@airmail.net>
 17) RE: Series of Unfortunate Events
by "Tobin, Renee" <Rtobin@ci.rancho-cucamonga.ca.us>
 18) Thanks for suggestions
by Erika Burge <eburge@esls.lib.wi.us>
 19) response to Beth and AR shelving
by "Donna Cerar Talerico" <dmt20@stargate.pitt.edu>
 20) Graphic novels and where to put them
by Terrill <trumpeter2@shaw.ca>
 21) email accounts for kids
by Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
 22) Fees for Summer Reading Club?
by "Doughty, Robin" <RDoughty@roseville.ca.us>
 23) outsourcing/"profiles"
by "Mary D'Eliso" <mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us>
 24) Booksale
by "Tara Mendez" <TaraM@mail2tara.com>
 25) Re: Fees for Summer Reading Club?
by Eric Norton <enorton@scls.lib.wi.us>
 26) RI Mock Newbery
by "Melody Allen" <melody_allen@gw.doa.state.ri.us>
 27) Teen Trivia
by Heather Ujhazy <heatherlynnu@yahoo.com>
 28) the cost of books in library booksales
by Terrill <trumpeter2@shaw.ca>
 29) Re: ALice in Wonderland
by "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
 30) Library Scavenger Hunt for Teens
by "Lisa Crandall" <crandalll@cadl.org>
 31) library websites from around the world
by "Mary B. Pritting" <maryocean54@yahoo.com>
 32) STUMPER 1950's short story from textbook
by "Karen Gardner" <kgardner@and.lib.in.us>
 33) 2 stumpers
by "Debra Domingos" <ddomingo@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
 34) STUMPER - man entombed in brick wall
by Jill Dempsey <jdempsey@kenton.lib.ky.us>

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From: "Sharon Castanteen" <sharoncast48@hotmail.com>
To: BCCLSYOUTH@LISTSERV.BCCLS.ORG, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Thanks for Look-alikes author
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:54:25 CDT


Thank you to everyone (too many to mention) for responding to my question
about who wrote the Lookalikes.   It seems I'm the only one who DOESN'T
know.  Thanks for being such a kind and helpful group.  Sharon


Sharon Castanteen
Director of Children's Services
River Edge Public Library
675 Elm Avenue
River Edge, New Jersey 07661
201-261-1663

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From: "Mary D'Eliso" <mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: stumper: Halloween story
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:54:51 CDT

Hi all -

Asking your help yet again.  A patron is trying to find a particular
Halloween book, and of course, most of the Halloween books are currently
checked out.

Here's the details:  The patron is looking for a book from her childhood
in the mid seventies.  She remembers the phrase: "Halloween, Halloween,
the moon is shining bright."
She knew it in paperback, with a black cover.  A child goes
trick-or-treating and the book ends with her leaving her candy at the foot
of the bed.

Thanks for any help available.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mary D'Eliso, Children's Librarian Monroe County Public Library
mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us Bloomington, Indiana
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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From: "Debbie Allen" <dallen@rla.lib.il.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Book clubs
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:55:23 CDT


Hi Collective Minds,

I am doing a project for my Literacy Class at library school about book
clubs.

Do any of your libraries have monthly bookclubs for adults, children or
homeschoolers?
If so, are they popular, what type of books are being read?

I would appreciate any and all help.

Thanks so much!

Deb Allen
Youth Librarian
Round Lake Area Library
906 Hart Road
Round Lake, IL  60073

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From: "Kaye Bowes" <kbear97@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: ALice in Wonderland
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:55:54 CDT

Dear PubYaccers,
I am planning an "Alice in Wonderland" party in January to celebrate the
birthday of Lewis Carroll.  I want to have different activities for the kids
(ages 6-10).  I have found some puzzles, mazes, etc. that will work well, I
think.  Has anyone ever done this so I don't have to totally reinvent the
wheel?  Thanks for any help you can give.

Kay Bowes
Brandywine Hundred Library
Wilmington, Delaware
kbear97@hotmail.com

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From: "M. Mills" <mmills@leaguecitylibrary.org>
To: kklopp@jcplin.org, pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Six Character-Trait Bookmarks/Posters/Banners
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:56:24 CDT

Try http://charactercounts.org

To receive catalog 1 800 711-2670

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From: Domenica Simpson <dsimpson@mail.pratt.lib.md.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper: Poem/Verse version of Ugly Duckling or Rumpelstiltskin
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:56:50 CDT

Hi,

I have a patron searching for a version of either the Ugly Duckling or
Rumpelstiltskin in verse or as a poem.   I would greatly appreciate any
help!

Thanks, Domenica Simpson

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From: "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: PUBYAC slowdown
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:45:23 -0600
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I apologize that messages haven't been coming through over the last couple
days.  Prairienet was down on Wednesday night, and Pallas was down Thursday
night, so I'm having some trouble getting things sent out in a timely
manner.

Shannon VanHemert
pyowner@pallasinc.com

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From: "Elizabeth Andresen" <e.andresen@vlc.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Stumper: Tiki-Tiki_Tiki Room-Solved!
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:57:52 CDT

Dear Collective Brilliant Brain,
Thanks for identifying the Tiki Tiki Tiki Room as being a Disney
song.  We found it on a collection of Disney favorites!!!
Another happy ending!
elizabeth

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From: "Carol Chatfield" <cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper - Story told from object's point of view
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:58:25 CDT

Here's one I'm sure is obvious, but I can't come up with any examples:

Patron is in a writing course and wants to do a picture book story told from
the point of view of an inanimate object such as a car, house, or other
non-living thing.
Can anyone suggest examples narrated in that fashion?

Thanks - I'm drawing a blank!
Carol Chatfield
Ilsley Public Library
Middlebury, VT
cchatfield@myriad.middlebury.edu

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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: cut & tell story--cat
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:58:52 CDT

hello all!

i am looking for a story i used once from a cut & tell
book. i don't remember the story but i remember that
you used a paper plate and cut various shapes out of
it as you told the story. when you were finished the
remaining piece in the center made the silhoutte of a
cat.

i'd like to use this for a halloween storytime i'm
doing next week.

if anyone recognizes it and has a copy of the story &
cutting instructions that they can fax me let me know,
i'd really appreciate it!

TIA!

~j


=====
~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library

"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun
fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is that?" "I
am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy

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From: Georgi Sandgren <ivylane3@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: 2 stumpers
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:59:21 CDT

I have been trying to identify 2 chapter books from my
childhood, and hope you can help. Both would have been
published before 1975. I have searched for these books
for some time now.

A boy (Titou?)was born to a wealthy family. Father
owns a munitions factory. Point of view is that of the
boy's friend. The boy is a very gentle soul, and can
make anything grow.  Near the end, the boy causes
flowers and plants to grow all around the munitions
factory, immobilizing it.  He then plants seeds which
grow into trees with a vine growing between them as a
ladder.  He climbs it to heaven.  I thought the last
line of the book was "Titou was an angel"

A family with a large number of children has a vine
which bears the most amazing fruit. The mother
prepares pies and similar items with the fruit and
sells them. But, every so often, one vine grows a
different kind of fruit - a baby.  The mother just
raises the child as her own.  But the townspeople
become shocked when they count backwards and realize
that her husband, presently away on a long business
trip, would have been out of town during the time of
"conception". I thought the title was something like
Mrs. Purdy's Children. 

I hope you can help,
Georgi




=====
Georgi Sandgren
Children's Librarian
East Islip Public Library
381 East Main Street
East Islip, New York  11730-2896
631-581-9200 ext. 6
ivylane3@yahoo.com

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From: bonnie webster <msbonnie2562@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Pubyac Thank You!
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:59:55 CDT

The reply to my stumper about the mice story is A
Beasty Story by Bill Martin, Jr. and Steven Kellogg.
Everybody should have this book. The children think
that is a really scarey story because I use a very low
sounding voice and build up to the end of the story.
It is a very funny story but the children get so still
and their eyes get real wide wondering what is the
thing going up the dark red stairs. If you don't have
this book you should get a copy. Thanks again to all
you wonderful people I couldn't do my outreach job
without your ideas. Bonnie

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From: "M. Mills" <mmills@leaguecitylibrary.org>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org, sKlein@EBPL.org
Subject: Hindi As a Second Language Information
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:00:25 CDT

Suzanne,

Try http://www.worldlanguage.com/Products/Hindi
select left side of screen Kids, then Products...
Hindi Animations (Kids Tutorial)  $39.95
Jambo, Hola, Hello Vol. II (Kit with tape)  $18.95
Vikram Betal - illustrated (Hindi)   $12.95

Also, http://www.hindiclass.com
Learn Hindi CD ROM at just $19.99 (actual price $29.99)
read all facets of Hindi Tutor CD after section "What people say about our
other language CDs"

Fairfield Language Technologies http://www.trstone.com and Asia for Kids
http://www.AsiaforKids.com  might include kits/books you need.

Maybe other librarians have been asked this question and wish to buy
materials.


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From: "Bart Pisapia" <PisapiaB@mail.co.leon.fl.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: PUBYAC-State Books Question
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:01:02 CDT


   Greeting Fellow Yacers!

   We are considering updating some of our state books.  The candidates =
for purchase are:

One Nation   from Bridgestone Books/ Capstone
World Almanac Library of the States  from Gareth Stevens
This Land is Your Land from Compass Point Books
and
Land of Liberty from Capstone

We have a current America the Beautiful  and Sea to Shining Sea series.  =
This would be an additional set.   Does anyone have strong feelings about =
these series?  I haven't been able to preview them yet and would value =
your opinions.  You can email me off list at : pisapiab@mail.co.leon.fl.us=
=20

                                                         Thank You!

                                                           Bart

Bart Pisapia
Youth Librarian
LeRoy Collins Leon County Library
Tallahassee, Florida


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From: "Kapila Sankaran" <ksankaran@springfieldpubliclibrary.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Compilation of freebies that I found
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:22:54 CDT

Hello List,

I've put together a basic list of what I've found on the internet so far (I
didn't hear from other librarians except one). There are a few things to
keep in mind when searching for freebies. I haven't tried these out yet, so
I can't vouch for them.

First of all: Beware of Scams!

--Some places will give you a little sample of something for simply signing
up (basic address info--a junk hotmail account is very useful for these);
some places want you to take a survey, which can be short or long...or not
worth it. These websites may be educational or commercial.

--Certain websites offer samples for teachers/librarians/educators only; I
personally felt much better about registering for such give-aways.

--Please be aware of the amount of personal information you give on online
forms.

--"Freebies" sometimes means sending a SASE. If you can take the extra time
and money to do this (which I don't!), then you might be more successful in
amassing your goodies. Sometimes "freebies" means entering in sweepstakes.
Sometimes "freebies" means "get a free gift when you join our club for
$4.95..."

--Some things you wonder whether you can do without...depending on what you
have in mind to get for your library's clientele/volunteers. I thought that
the most attractive/appealing freebies would include: perfume samples,
stickers, bookmarks, posters, stationery. There are many education-oriented,
health/safety oriented products available from government/non-profit
organizations -- but the "messages" really do stick out sometimes, and you
wonder how appealing such items would be to kids. It all depends, so do take
a look.

--Lots of paper-based "freebies" are actually things that you can print out:
activity sheets, bookmarks, posters, book covers, colouring pages.

--Watch out for broken links! Special offers do expire, websites go under
all the time...you know the drill.

And, if I haven't mentioned it before: Beware of scams!

Good luck, those of you who try!

Cheers,

Kapila

A FEW INDIVIDUAL SITES:
For printables:  http://www.kidprintables.com/
(bookmarks, door hangers, note paper, stickers, and more)

Alphabet stickers: https://www.kable.com/pub/mflp/substicker.asp
(straightforward, no spam--yet)

http://www.freekidstoys.net/month.html
For a free monster ring (?)

DIRECTORIES OF FREEBIES:

http://www.maxandstar.com/fabulous.htm
(maintained by a person who has a yahoo group on kids freebies; lots of
colouring pages here!)

www.freebzone.com
I especially liked this website because it came without pop-ups/ads.

http://freebies.about.com
A little annoying with the pop-unders, but it seems to be quite a
comprehensive list of sites, apparently the site's updated regularly, too.

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From: "Suzie Riddle" <szriddle@airmail.net>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: computer system for a small school library?
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:23:25 CDT

What would be the best computer catalog system for a very small school =
library? I am helping-out a small Montessori school. The collection is =
maybe half the size of a public elementary school library. We are =
considering using the book collection wizard on Microsoft Access. Does =
anyone know of something easier to use and designed specifically for =
small school libraries?

Thanks

Suzie Riddle
East Dallas Community School
szriddle@airmail.net

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From: "Tobin, Renee" <Rtobin@ci.rancho-cucamonga.ca.us>
To: "'PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children'"
Subject: RE: Series of Unfortunate Events
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:23:54 CDT

We also found some of the titles at Scholastic's warehouse sale at their
Baldwin Park, CA location.

Renee Tobin
Rancho Cucamonga Public Library

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From: Erika Burge <eburge@esls.lib.wi.us>
To: Pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: Thanks for suggestions
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:24:17 CDT

Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions in my search for story
collections.  The Kingfisher books look like a good starting point.  Thanks
so much!

Erika
Erika Burge
Children's Librarian
Cedarburg Public Library
W63 N583 Hanover Avenue
Cedarburg, WI 53012

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From: "Donna Cerar Talerico" <dmt20@stargate.pitt.edu>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: response to Beth and AR shelving
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:24:36 CDT

Beth, we work with AR in my middle school, and I think it would be best =
to shelve the books where they would customarily be shelved. We have an =
AR list posted on our web page and also hard copies for children to use =
as a directory.  Separating AR books is too timely and confusing because =
similar copies might also be on your regular shelves.   Donna

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From: Terrill <trumpeter2@shaw.ca>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Graphic novels and where to put them
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:24:57 CDT

My two-bits, Natasha, regarding graphic novel call numbers.

Our public library system doesn't have a designation for GN, such as the =
JX for a picture book call number. And it is the headache just as you =
have stated it. The further difficulty is, when you have any book, =
series, genre that is 'out of the run' and it is not designated in the =
call no. it makes it difficult for staff to find as well! We are part of =
a regional system, and therefore one of our library patrons in a =
community will request an item from another branch and, in the case of =
the GN ... we surely don't know all the titles and authors, so often the =
person looking for the item to transfer will not find it because they do =
not know to look for it in the GN section. It is for this reason that =
I'm a fan of using stickers and keeping items in the run. I know its =
nice to have a section for this that and the other thing, but it creates =
problems in a lot of ways. When you think of all the places there are to =
look for any one book - displays, special sections, hardcover, =
paperback, classic, Juv/Adult crossover titles such as Tolkeins and L.M. =
Montgomery - it gets pretty labour intensive to find a book for a patron =
or for transfering out.

Vive le sticker!

Terrill Scott
Fraser Valley Regional Library
British Columbia  Canada



"Let us read and let us dance, two amusements that will never do any =
harm to the world."     - Voltaire=

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From: Jennifer Baker <jbaker93711@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: email accounts for kids
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:25:24 CDT

have any of you run into this problem yet?

both yahoo and hotmail are now requiring either a
parent's email address or a credit card to create a
new email address.

i think this is a cipa thing. but it's proving to be a
big problem for kids coming to the library alone, plus
a lot of our adults adults don't have credit cards.

are any of you aware of a way around this problem?
or maybe you know of a free email service that is
specifically for kids and won't have these
restrictions.

please respond to jbaker93711@yahoo.com
TIA!
~j.

=====
~jenniferbaker
fresno co. public library

"I may not be an explorer or an adventurer or a treasure seeker or a gun
fighter Mr. O' Connell, but I am proud of what I am." "And what is that?" "I
am a librarian!"
~ Evelyn, The Mummy

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From: "Doughty, Robin" <RDoughty@roseville.ca.us>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Fees for Summer Reading Club?
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:25:56 CDT

Our Director has instructed us to offer fee-based "camps" and events using =
the Summer Reading Club theme for 2004.  Traditionally, our Summer Reading =
Club has been free of charge and includes the following: materials upon sig=
n-up, a weekly craft and event for 6 weeks, small incentive prizes plus a f=
ree book as a final prize. Except for staff time and some printing costs, i=
t has been sponsored by the Friends of the Library.  It is proposed that th=
e fee activities be marketed as a part of the Summer Reading Club experienc=
e.  Also, for the first time, we are being asked to gather personal info fo=
r a marketing database as a requirement for participation.  Has anyone out =
there faced similar circumstances? Any thoughts or advice?  We are a city l=
ibrary system serving 100,000 residents or so. Thank you,=20

Robin L. Doughty
Senior Librarian, Youth Services
Roseville Public Library
(916) 774-5355

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From: "Mary D'Eliso" <mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us>
To: pubyac <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: outsourcing/"profiles"
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:26:35 CDT

Hi PUBYACKERS -
Our library is now convening a committee to look at selection outsourcing
through profiling.  I know some of the drawbacks and some of the
advantages, but I'd love to hear your advice.

The sorts of concerns you might address are:
*To what extent has your library gone to a profile selection (appx % of
your children's book budget?)?
*What companies seem to do the best job of profiling and really serving
a specific library's needs?
*What are the variables that a particular vendor will consider when
profiling (review sources, publisher, reading lists, etc.)?
*Any horror stories or success stories?
*Does your library outsource cataloging, selection, or both?  Advantages? 
Drawbacks?

Sheesh - is that enough?  basically, any advice you'd like to share would
be welcome.  Thanks a lot for considering this, guys.  Many of us are
currently going through this - it makes sense to glean wisdom from one
another.  If the info I receive results in some concrete info, I'll be
glad to post to PUBYAC.

I look forward to hearing from you.
-Mary
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mary D'Eliso, Children's Librarian Monroe County Public Library
mdeliso@monroe.lib.in.us Bloomington, Indiana
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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From: "Tara Mendez" <TaraM@mail2tara.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Booksale
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:27:15 CDT


Friends and collegues,
We have a small but popular booksale area for library donations
currently we charge .50 for a paperback and $2.00 for a new hardcover I
am wondering if we are charging too little for the paperbacks which are
in perfect shape. There is a local secondhand book store down the road
that charges 3/4 of the jacket price for his books .I don't want to go
that far but I am curious what others charge.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Tara Mendez
taram@mail2tara.com

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From: Eric Norton <enorton@scls.lib.wi.us>
To: "Doughty, Robin" <RDoughty@roseville.ca.us>, <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Re: Fees for Summer Reading Club?
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:03:06 CDT

I have to say that my first reaction to that idea is NO WAY!!!!.  I don't
mean to be rude or upset you but charging fees in the public library in
general is not a good thing.  The whole idea is that we offer things to the
community freely (because, hey, their tax dollars paid for them in the
first place).  Summer reading programs are the biggest programs most
libraries do all year and they have the potential to reach kids of all
economic levels.  To add fees is to put a bar between kids who may need
most the cool free stuff you have.  Even if you don't have a fee for
everything, by adding fees, you introduce confusion ("is this one a fee
event, oh, I'm sorry son/daughter we can't go").  If you are short of cash,
better to take all of your most impressive stats, photos and anecdotes and
visit local charitable organizations and businesses and ask for
donations.  Then you turn a potentially negative PR situation (X number of
kids turned away from library for lack of cash) into a positive situation
(Y number of business support Summer Reading for Kids at the Roseville PL).



Eric Norton
Head of Children's Services
McMillan Memorial Library
Wisconsin Rapids WI 54494
715-422-5130
enorton@scls.lib.wi.us

"Very senior librarians...once they have proved themselves worthy by
performing some valiant act of librarianship, are accepted into a secret
order and are taught the raw arts of survival beyond the Shelves We Know."
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

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From: "Melody Allen" <melody_allen@gw.doa.state.ri.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: RI Mock Newbery
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:05:41 CDT

We held our first discussion session last night and have revised our list =
for our next discussion.  Here is our working list that will be revised =
again for our final session in January.  I would love to see anyone else's =
Mock Newbery list (and Mock Caldecott list).  Thanks, Melody Allen =
melody_allen@gw.doa.state.ri.us=20

Mock Newbery December Reading List

Cameron, Ann.  Colibri.
Codell, Esme Raji.  Sahara Special.
Collins, Suzanne.  Gregor the Overlander.
Creech, Sharon.  Granny Torrelli Makes Soup.
Crum, Shutta.  Spitting Image.
Cushman, Karen.  Rodzina.
DiCamillo, Kate.  The Tale of Despereaux: Being the Story of a Mouse, a =
Princess, Some Soup, and a Spool of Thread.
DuPrau, Jeanne.  City of Ember.
Giff, Patricia Reilly.  Maggie's Door.
Henkes, Kevin.  Olive's Ocean.
Hesse, Karen.  Aleutian Sparrow.
Horvath, Polly.  The Canning Season.
Kurzweil, Allen.  Leon and the Spitting Image.
Lasky, Kathryn.  The Man Who Made Time Travel.
Lisle, Janet Taylor.  Crying Rocks.
Love, D. Anne.  The Puppeteer's Apprentice.
Lowry, Lois.  The Silent Boy.
Maas, Wendy.  Mango-Shaped Space.
O'Connor, Barbara.  Fame and Glory in Freedom, Georgia.
Peck, Richard.  The River Between Us.
Smith, Hope Anita.  The Way a Door Closes.
Spinelli, Jerry.  Milkweed.
Testa, Maria.  Almost Forever.
Van Draanen, Wendelin.  Swear to Howdy.
White, Ruth.  Tadpole.
Woodson, Jacqueline.  Locomotion.
Yolen, Jane.  Sword of the Rightful King.

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From: Heather Ujhazy <heatherlynnu@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: Teen Trivia
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:06:28 CDT

Hello,
I am doing a Library Jeopardy program in November and
am looking for some good teen trivia.  Has anyone done
a program like this?  Would you be willing to share
some trivia with me?  I will compile the responses and
post the trivia questions I come up with also.
Please email me at heatherlynnu@yahoo.com.
Thanks for your time in advance-
Heather

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From: Terrill <trumpeter2@shaw.ca>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: the cost of books in library booksales
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:06:59 CDT


Hi Tara ... good request for info, and it lets us remember (not realllllly
up on a soapbox) that the books in the library have already been purchased
with public money. When we cull the collection or accept donations to sell,
it is my opinion they should go for as cheap as is respectabley possible, so
that any adult or child can come in with a quarter and get a book.

Our regional system charges 25 cents for a paperback and  50 cents for some
hardcovers, $1.00 for others. I think 10 cents for mags .... at the actual
booksale we will put on fill a bag prices too or special special deals at
the end of the day! If it saves re-storing some heavy boxes, its worth
someone else giving a little cash and packing them away.

My two bits for Friday.

Terrill Scott
Fraser Valley Regional Library
British Columbia  Canada



"Let us read and let us dance, two amusements that will never do any harm to
the world."     - Voltaire

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From: "Melissa MacLeod" <mmacleod@sailsinc.org>
To: <kbear97@hotmail.com>,
Subject: Re: ALice in Wonderland
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:07:35 CDT

Hi Kaye, we had a wonderful Mad Hatter Tea Party this summer! The kids
dressed in wacky clothes and outfits and I was dressed as the red queen,
making them cutsey and respond with "Yes, your majesty!" (just a little ego
stroking) First I read the Walrus and the Carpenter, which is available in
picturebook form from several authors, then I had them sit down to tea. The
catch is, I had the soundtrack from the movie playing on the radio and had
timed it so that when they sat down, How do you do and shake hands came on
and I made them all follow the song, then I skipped to the Caucus Race and
made them get up from their chairs and follow me as we ran in and out of the
room in a congo line (they just loved it!) We played pin the grin on the
Chesire Cat (I drew Chesire Cat on large cardboard and attached to the wall
sitting on a cardoard tree, then cut out grins from white cardstock), The
Queen's Croquet (I used stiff electric wire with fun foam feet and cardstock
for the card wickets and bought a pair of plastic flamingos from iparty for
the mallets - decorate card stock like a playing card then tape wire onto
the back - bend wire into wicket shape and attach fun foam feet and hands,
which you can tape to the floor so they don't move - worked perfect!) We
also had the caterpillar sitting on a large mushroom (more large cardboard
drawn and painted) with the letters ALICE IN WONDERLAND floating in smoke
(gray construction paper) above his head for the kids to see how many words
they could make from the letters. We decorated a large cardboard box as the
rabbits house with arm and foot holes as well as a window that opened for
their face for them to sit in and have their picture taken. For crafts we
had heart wands (red straw glued between two large red construction paper
hearts), caterpillars (descending-sized, green construction paper cirles
with googly-eyes and chenille stem antennas on head) and painting the roses
red (drip red paint on three coffee filters which you gather together in the
middle with a small piece of green construction paper underneath and attach
to a 6 inch dowel - for economic reasons I bought skewers at the grocery
store and cut off the sharp eneds with scissors.) All in all, the work was
in the large construction paper decorations (the cardboard was donated) but
the crafts were simple and cheap (about $1 for straws and another for
skewers - the other stuff, construction paper, cofee filters, etc. - we had
on hand) and the games cost only the $10 for the flamingos. I did decorate
the tables wacky, with purple tablecoths, miss-matched tea pots, cheap
plates and napkins (which I got from Building 19 for under a dollar per
pack) and mini tea cups which the Friends group bought from Birthday Express
years ago because I do tea parties often. All in all, the party for 50
children cost under $30 (ice tea and cokkies included) and the flamingos I
will have for next party. We will certainly do this one again as it was a
load of fun! Hope this helps, Melissa MacLeod, Carver Public Library,
Carver, MA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kaye Bowes" <kbear97@hotmail.com>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:55 AM
Subject: ALice in Wonderland


> Dear PubYaccers,
> I am planning an "Alice in Wonderland" party in January to celebrate the
> birthday of Lewis Carroll.  I want to have different activities for the
kids
> (ages 6-10).  I have found some puzzles, mazes, etc. that will work well,
I
> think.  Has anyone ever done this so I don't have to totally reinvent the
> wheel?  Thanks for any help you can give.
>
> Kay Bowes
> Brandywine Hundred Library
> Wilmington, Delaware
> kbear97@hotmail.com
>
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From: "Lisa Crandall" <crandalll@cadl.org>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Library Scavenger Hunt for Teens
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:08:09 CDT

Hi all,

Thanks to all who responded to my request for info about bigger systems
doing a "First Grade, First Card" program.  I sent compilations to those who
requested them, except a couple of people who's email addresses were
stripped out of their emails to me.  So, if you want a copy of what I
received and haven't gotten one, please email me and include your email
address in the body of the message or in your signature line.  Thanks :-)

I am also asking for help again.  I am planning a library scavenger hunt for
teens in a few weeks and was wondering if any of you have done the same
thing previously.  Any sure fire ideas?  Does anyone have a list of clues or
other scavenger hunt-type of materials that you would be willing to share?
I'd really appreciate your help.  We just had our first successful teen
program on Tuesday, and I'm trying to build on that.

If you have any ideas to share, please email me at crandalll@cadl.org.
Thanks!

Lisa Crandall
Youth Services Librarian
Holt-Delhi Library
Capital Area District Library
 2078 Aurelius Road
Holt, MI  48842
(517) 694-9351
crandalll@cadl.org


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From: "Mary B. Pritting" <maryocean54@yahoo.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: library websites from around the world
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:08:41 CDT


Dear Members:
I am doing a project for a committee that I am on.  The committee is looking
for standout library websites from libraries around the world.  If anyone
has a favorite library website they have visited, if the library website is
from your library and you are rightfully proud of it I would appreciate you
sending your website information to me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Mary Pritting
Assistant Director/Head of Children's Services
Union Public Library
1980 Morris Ave
Union, NJ 07083
908.851.5450
mpritting@uplnj.org

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From: "Karen Gardner" <kgardner@and.lib.in.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER 1950's short story from textbook
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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:29:01 CDT

Dear Great People,

I have a patron who is looking for a short story, or possibly a
copy of the textbook he recalls from when he was in 8th or 9th
grade.  This would have been in 1956-57.  It was a reading
book.  He says the stories were all uplifting in some way, and
at least some of them took place in "the north woods."

He feels certain one story is called "The Debt."  In this story,
a 14 year old son goes to pick up his father's paycheck at a
factory.  The owner tells the boy that there is no paycheck. 
His father owed him money.  He makes the boy a fur trapper and
sends him out.  the first time the boy loses everything and
doesn't get paid.  The second time he does a little better.  The
third time he does well.  So in 3 years the debt from his father
gets paid off.  The owner dies and leaves the factory to the
boy.  As he is cleaning some things out, he comes across an
envelope with $300.  It is from his father.  The boy is just
grateful to have been given a chance to prove himself and to be
brought up well.

Another story the patron mentioned is where a man is given a job
to put ashes on the road so the horses pulling lumber can get
traction.  A character in the story stops being angry in the end.

Does any of this sound familiar to anyone?  He has done an
Internet search for the short story, but so far has found
nothing.  I played around some with a Google search, but after
several pages it didn't look promising.  He's wanting to at
least read the story to his grandchildren.

Please send reply and I will share what we learn.  I thought the
short story sounded great!

TIA!

Karen :)

Karen Gardner, MLS
Anderson Public Library
111 east 12th Street
Anderson, IN  46016
kgardner@and.lib.in.us

"I feel like I've been a librarian up until now."
-- Cher, her last concert tour

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From: "Debra Domingos" <ddomingo@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: 2 stumpers
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:33:13 CDT

I know these are sketchy descriptions but if anyone can help our patron
would
be most pleased.

Do you remember a story of a woman who named all of her children after
different kinds of apples?

Also (now this is even worse)...A picture book about an old bear who always
was in trouble?

Thank you in advance,


--
Debra Domingos
Head of Children's Services
Brookhaven Free Library
Brookhaven, New York

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From: Jill Dempsey <jdempsey@kenton.lib.ky.us>
To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER - man entombed in brick wall
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Help!  We have a patron looking for a book he read almost 40 years ago.  He=
 thinks it was a folk tale from another country.  The story is about a man=
 who builds a brick wall and ends up entombing himself.  (Oops!)

If this sounds familiar to anyone, please respond to me at=
 jdempsey@kenton.lib.ky.us.  Thanks!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jill M. Dempsey
Supervisor of Children's Services
Erlanger Branch Library
401 Kenton Lands Road
Erlanger, Kentucky 41018
859-962-4000, ext. 4118
jdempsey@kenton.lib.ky.us
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