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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:01 PM
Subject: PUBYAC digest 1312

    PUBYAC Digest 1312

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Setting PUBYAC to Auto - unsubscribe, etc.
by "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
  2) Bob Books
by "JULIA FOSTER" <muehlfoster@msn.com>
  3) Help required.
by "Kym Andrews" <andrews@swan.wa.gov.au>
  4) Getting dressed storytime compilation
by "Natasha Forrester" <nforrester@wpl.org>
  5) Mock Award results
by Marijo Kist <marijo.kist@phxlib.org>
  6) teen email responses compilation (pretty long)
by "Vittek, Robyn" <rvittek@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
  7) STUMPER: Elephant and Ducklings
by "Vanessa J. Verdun" <vverdun@tln.lib.mi.us>
  8) Mary Elise Monsell
by Lorraine Getty <lgetty1969@yahoo.com>
  9) homeless families
by "Dawn Imada" <dawnimada@hotmail.com>

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From: "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Setting PUBYAC to Auto - unsubscribe, etc.
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:31:13 -0700


Dear PUBYACkers,

In an effort to cut down on the plethora of bounced messages that Prairienet
receives daily, which strains their server, I am setting PUBYAC to
automatically unsubscribe messages that bounce.  This usually happens when
people leave a library and forget to unsubscribe from PUBYAC.  Their address
disappears, but PUBYAC keeps coming, so it bounces.

On occasion, you may find that your server has a bad day, starts bouncing
everything, and you will be unsubscribed.  If this happens, remember it is
very easy to get back onto the list by going to the Subscribe page on the
PUBYAC website and filling out the webform to resubscribe.

I have also lately received interesting messages from some domains that you
are now using a Spam filter and I need to register PUBYAC as an approved
domain.  This is not possible for me to do, because I am not receiving these
messages at prairienet.org -- I'm getting them at pallasinc.com.  So
remember, if your library or organization installs one of these spam
filters, you need to make sure that YOU register 'pubyac@prairienet.org' as
an approved e-mail address.

Shannon VanHemert
PUBYAC Moderator
pyowner@pallasinc.com
Website:  www.pallasinc.com/pubyac

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From: "JULIA FOSTER" <muehlfoster@msn.com>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Bob Books
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:03:24 CST


At our library the Bob Books are circulated in a clear hanging bag (this =
is how we do book and tape combinations).  They have to be counted when t=
hey are returned, to make sure they are all in the bag and the number mat=
ches the label.  So it ends up being a little extra work for the support =
stuff folks.  When the Bob books first came out they were a big part of l=
earning to read for my son.  There isn't an actual "Bob" in the books, wh=
ich drove him nuts!  Anyway, parents and children do like these books.  I=
 can't see them as a reserve item at all, as they are used for reading ov=
er and over and need to be carried home and practiced with.  =20

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From: "Kym Andrews" <andrews@swan.wa.gov.au>
To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>
Subject: Help required.
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:08:44 CST

Hello

I am a librarian from Perth, Western Australia seeking help on a
question.  I have placed this question on a number of listservs
including ALSC, with no luck so far.  This is a long shot, but I thought
I would try it anyway.

While working on secondment I found a copy of a piece from a book which
I fell in love with. However, I can not find the bibliographic details
for this anyway, and I can not find it in any of the books I have.  I
have asked for help from my fellow librarians in Australia with no luck.
I know the piece came from an American book due to the spelling of
certain words.   I was wondering if you or any of your colleagues would
know of this piece, or the book which it came from, or be able to locate
the bibliographic details so that I can hand it out to my babies mums.

The start of the piece looks like this:  (it is actually written over 2
pages)

The way to discover books -
A child tells us how we can help.

When I'm given a book:
AT FIRST, by myself, I will:
* chew it
* throw it
* bang it
* tear it
* squeeze it
* look at the outside cover
* make sounds

* And with a little help from you,
I will:
* open and close it
* look at the pictures as the
pages are turned
* feel what's on the page
* listen to your voice
* hear you imitate the sounds I
make
* react to noises the book makes

I know that it comes from "Chapter 7: Sharing Books" and is on page 112.
Any help that you can offer would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you so
much.


Kym Andrews
Librarian
Ballajura Public Library
Telephone: (08) 9249 1488
Fax: (08) 9249 4318
Cnr Kingfisher Avenue and Illawarra Crescent
Ballajura  WA  6066
Visit us at www.cityofswan.com/library

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From: "Natasha Forrester" <nforrester@wpl.org>
To: "PUBYAC@img10u.ppi.net:PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults and
Subject: Getting dressed storytime compilation
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:13:55 CST

  Thank you to everyone who sent me ideas for the Getting Dressed storytime,
especially Beverly Bixler, Jennifer Baker, Elizabeth Murphy and Jennifer Lee
for sending storytime planning sheets.  Because the posting is
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long, if you would like me to send it to you as a Word
document, please email me at nforrester@wpl.org and I'll email it to you
individually.

  Natasha Forrester, Children's Services Librarian
  Winfield Public Library
  605 College  Winfield, KS 67156
  (620) 221-4470

  "Once again I teeter at the precipice of the generation gap." - Giles,
'Out of Mind, Out of Sight'

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From: Marijo Kist <marijo.kist@phxlib.org>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Mock Award results
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:55:32 CST



Librarians from Maricopa County Arizona, Greater Phoenix area met last
Thursday and selected Mock Caldecott, Newbery and Printz Awards. They are:

Caldecott
Medal book  Roller Coaster by Marla Frazee
Honor book  Two Eggs, Please by Sarah Weeks, illus by Betsy Lewin

Newbery
Medal book  Sahara Special by Esme Raji Codell
Honor Book  Granny Torelli Makes Soup by Sharon Creech

Printz
Medal Book  Inside Out by Terry Trueman
Honor Books A Northern Light by Jennifer Donnelly
            Fault Line by Janet Tashjian
            Zigzag by Ellen Wittlinger


Marijo Kist          Juniper Branch Library
Librarian II         1825 W Union Hills Drive
                     Phoenix, AZ 85027


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From: "Vittek, Robyn" <rvittek@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: teen email responses compilation (pretty long)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:55:57 CST


Thanks to all of you for taking interest in my query about Teen email lists
(for programs, etc). Here's what I sent, and the replies:
Do any of you teen librarians have an electronic mailing list to send teens
info on upcoming programs, new materials, etc.? My library system is
considering this practice but would like to know more about it.
For instance, does your library require a parent's permission to sign up?
How do you keep track of your contacts?
What kind of information do you send?
Do you get feedback from the teens about the emails?
How often are they sent? Etc., etc., etc.....
Please reply to me directly at rvittek@ascpl.lib.oh.us.
Thanks for your input!

Robyn E. Vittek


Hi Robyn,
We don't have a teen email list yet, but are in the process of planning it!
I
would be interested in seeing the responses that you get, as these are also
issues that we're facing!

thanks in advance,
angela

I email patrons of all ages about library events. We have
registration slips that are displayed at the circ desk that asks for
name, email address, phone (in case we can't read the email
address) and has the age categories with boxes next to them. The
patron can just check off which age group they want program info
for. We don't ask for parental permission if the patron is a minor.
The email list is private and only used to send out library related
info. Patrons really like it and kids love getting email.
Good Luck,

Theresa

We have an email list for our teens.  We send them information about
upcoming Volunteer meetings and other teen activities.  We also send out
calls for help when we need volunteers for special projects.  When teens
sign up for summer reading we ask for an email address.  When teens sign up
to be volunteers we ask for an email address.  Most kids have their own
email addresses through hotmail or yahoo.  We do not ask for parental
permission.  Our teen volunteer coordinator keeps all of the emails in her
contact list in a group.  So far we have had a good response.  The teens
seems to check their mail frequently.  It has been at least a year and now
they are used to checking for library emails.  I think it works very well.
It saves time and money for us.  We used to send postcards about programs.
Now we send all emails.

Good luck with your project.

Ellie

I just started an email distribution list this fall.  When we took
summer reading registration forms I included a space where teens could
sign up to receive email updates about programs, events, materials, etc.
I had about 150 sign up.  I have sent 3 emails so far, all pertaining to
programs so far.  Once I have a handle on the Teen portion of our
website I figure I will send them emails when the site is updated.  No,
I did not require parental permission.

I have a distribution list set up in my OUTLOOK address book.  If an
email ever gets kicked back to me, I delete it from the list.  When I
send messages I use the UNDISCLOSED Recipients method so everyone's
email addresses are not out there for everyone else to see.  It is
pretty easy to do - if you need help with that let me know.  I did a
search on Google to find out how to do it and I have the instructions
handy so I don't mess it up - easy for me to do when it comes to tech-y
things!

I have had several parents and teens say they found out about the
programs from the emails - teens can be SOOOO busy and I could plaster
the Teen section with signs and not reach as many as I can with a simple
email.  I have had nobody ask to be removed from the list.

Hope this helps!  I have found it to be a pretty easy process and well
worth the time it took to set up the list.

Stephanie
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I use two email lists for my teens.  One is just for the Teen advisory Board
and the other is for any teen who signs up.  I send out one or two emails a
month with news about programs, ask for suggestions for additions to the
music collection, send links to homework sites, TRW sites, etc.
I haven't asked for parental permission.
Each month I add any new addresses and delete any that bounce back.
Some teens write back.

RoseMary


We have a teen electronic newsletter that is mailed out by e-mail to
teens.  This has all kinds of info on programs at the branches,
book/movie/music reviews written by teens and other teen articles.  We
send this out every other month and the teens love putting it together.
The teen e-mail addresses came mostly from teens who participated in the
summer reading program and we did not require parent permission.

I don't know a lot about how the addresses are stored, because we
contract out to a web company who does the regular electronic newsletter
for adult patrons.  After we get the layout and the content done in
Dreamweaver, we send them a copy and they send it out to the teens.

Hope this helps!
Laurie

We do have a teen e-mail list & they usually sign up for it during SRP.  No
parental permission required, if they want to stop at any time they just
let us know.  We e-mail once a month, usually right before a big program &
also mention new items just in & program details.  Haven't had a lot of
feedback from teens about it, just 2 that write back occasionally. If an
email comes back as undeliverable, I just delete that address from the
list.  It is nice to have an extra outlet for publicity. (and really hasn't
been that much work, though this is a smaller community of 15,000--might be
more in a bigger city.)


Rebecca


I don't have any info for you - I asked on the list sometime last year and
received zip in answers.  If you get any, could you share, please.  Thanks a
lot!

Becky


We don't have a mailing list aimed at teens, but for the past two years, we
have had a weekly e-mailing as part of our Summer Reading Club.

We asked for the e-mail address on the SRC registration form, and about 1/4
of our registrants put an address down.  I entered these addresses in my
Outlook address book in a separate contacts file.  (There are probably
software packages out there that could make this part of the process easier,
but since we only use do this for the 8 weeks of SRC, we really couldn't
justify getting any special software--so I went the shoestring route.)  When
I entered the names, I would put the child's name "and parents." If there
were more than two children in a family and they were all using the same
address, I would enter them as "The Smith Family". When I got ready to send
out a mailing (I tried to get it done on Friday afternoon, though
occasionally it slipped to Saturday morning), I would direct the "To" line
to my own address and put everyone else in the "BCC" section.  This is the
best I have to hide the addresses of the individual recipients.  In the
subject line, I would put our li
 brary's name first and foremost.  I also signed the email message with my
full name, title, phone number, etc.  This may have dampened the appeal
factor, but I just wanted to give parents the assurance that this was a
letter from the library and that I wasn't just some sleazy spam artist or
creepy stalker.

I got a lot of good response from it--I would get some emails which I tried
to answer as promptly as possible.  Mostly, though, I would get parents tell
me that they really enjoyed getting the emails and the children were
delighted to get things actually addressed to them.

The biggest trouble that I had with the mailing list was the big amount of
time involved in entering all the addresses into the contacts file.  Since
we allow kids to register for the SRC right up to the last week, there were
always new addresses to list.  (The first year I did this, I would send each
address a personalized "welcome" email, but I dropped that before too long.)
Then, after I would send an email out, I would get all the
bounce-backs--emails that would tell me this was undeliverable because there
is no such address or the mailbox was full.  Every once in a while, I'd get
an email from a parent who would ask me to take their child's name off the
mailing list.  And occasionally I'd get a bounce-back saying that someone's
spam filter wouldn't let me through because the email was sent to so many
addresses at once.  I would just go through the contacts list and delete any
address that had a problem.

I think that this is a way of communication that would really appeal to
teens and could be the best way of publicizing teen programs.  As far as
requiring parents' permission--isn't that addressed in CIPA?  I know on
children's websites when they request an email address they always put in a
"Kids! Get your parents' permission first" notice (like that really works.)
My question would be if there is a recommended age cut-off.

Hope this helps,
Susan

Wow, this sounds like an excellent idea Robyn.  Could you pass on your
results?  I would like to look into providing this service to our teens
too.

Janet

I have an email list of teens who participate in my Youth Advisory Board.

They supply their email address on the application for the board, which also
requires a parent signature.

I send out at least one email a month, announcing our monthly meeting, and
other emails as needed to remind them of events.

It works really well. It's difficult to contact teens by phone, since
they're so busy.

Rachael

Hi,
My name is Becky Amstutz from the Bluffton Public Library and I was
wondering if you could pass the information that you receive about the
teen email thing back to me.  I am just starting out here and would love
to do something like this for the teens.  If you could do this, I would
appreciate it greatly.
Thanks
Becky

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From: "Vanessa J. Verdun" <vverdun@tln.lib.mi.us>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: STUMPER: Elephant and Ducklings
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:56:13 CST

Hello,

I have a young boy looking for a picture book about an elephant
who finds three ducklings, two boys and one girl. The elephant teaches
the ducklings how to swim, how to quack, and how to fly. At the end of the
book, the mother duck finds the ducklings, and thanks the elephant for
watching them.

I know this isn't much to go on, and I would greatly appreciate any help.

Thank you,

Vanessa J. Morris
Youth Services Librarian
River Rouge Public Library

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From: Lorraine Getty <lgetty1969@yahoo.com>
To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>
Subject: Mary Elise Monsell
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:40:15 CST

Does anyone have contact information for Mary Elise
Monsell, author of the Mr. Pin mysteries?  I have an
old flyer which gives a phone nubmer of 847-604-0976
but no other number or address.  I've called that
number three times since before Christmas and left
messages, with no returned call.  I was hoping that
someone might have some more current info her.

Lorraine Getty
Forsyth Public Library
Forsyth IL

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From: "Dawn Imada" <dawnimada@hotmail.com>
To: pubyac@prairienet.org
Subject: homeless families
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:41:07 CST

Hi Everyone,

My colleagues and I have seen homeless families spending entire days in the
Children's Room at our library.   We have given them information about
shelters and food programs.   Sometimes, the children are restless due to
spending 8-10 hours a day inside the library.

How do you deal with this in your libraries?   What works and what doesn't
work?

Please email me at dawn.imada@sjlibrary.org.

Many thanks!

Dawn Imada

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