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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:55:56 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #662
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:41:15 PDT
From: "Fredda Williams" <freddawilliams@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stumper
The collective brain has done it again! The book I was searching for
about the puppet and the ballerina turns out to be "The Jewel Heart"
by
Barbara Helen Berger (Philomel, 1994) Thanks again to Grace Greene for
making me look really smart in front of a branch manager and a patron.
I love this list!
Fredda Williams
Children's Services Manager
Knox County Public Library System
freddawilliams@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:02:21 -0700
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
Subject: Re: new yalsa award
I simply point out to people that they count one to ten, not zero to nine.
ILefkowitz@aol.com wrote:
> <<Of course, they *are* aware, aren't they, that the new millenium
doesn't
> start till 2001, and their award is commencing an entire year early????
>>
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:37:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: Help! Wizard mag...
I consider Wizard to be the "People Magazine" of comics. They'll talk
about upcomming stuff, do reviews, interviee people in the industry, and
sometimes have some goofy stuff. There are also price guides in the
issues. Except for the occational "Bad Girl" drawing, there's not much
wrong with it
David Serchay
Youth Services Librarian
Deerfield Beach Library
Broward County, FL
David Serchay
a013213t@bc.seflin.org
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:45:57 -0400
From: szampino@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Steve Zampino)
Subject: ALA Conference Housing
Dear Pubyackers:
I'm going to ALA this summer in New Orleans. I'm
checking inexpensive options out, and have this question:
Would any of you be interested in joining seven other librarians staying
in an International Hostel room during the conference?
Last summer I went to the conference in DC. I took a bed in a
sixteen-bed hostel room. Accommodations were sparse, but quite adequate,
and the price was good. The only problem for me was that I couldn't choose
who I was "living with." I didn't appreciate some of my non-librarian
roommates.
I've called ALA and am waiting for someone to call me back and tell me if
me and seven other librarians can reserve one eight-bed room.
If we can, and people are interested, I'd like to do it. It would cost
each of us $25 per day, and there are places to keep food and prepare it,
places to store luggage, and other benefits.
If you think you might be interested, please email me at
szampino@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us
Steve Zampino
Children's Services
Bridgeport (CT) Public Library
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:39:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sandra Grambsch <sgrambsc@owlsnet.owls.lib.wi.us>
Subject: Re: Library columns
LIBRARY LINKS
YOUTH BUZZ
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:28:51 -0400
From: "Kid Ref" <kidref@euclid.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #656
Eve, what a rotten situation!
Here are some excerpts from our (somewhat vague) policy:
"To maintain an atmosphere in which learning and exchange of information
can take place, Euclid Public Library's board of trustees has adopted a
policy concerning unattended children"
"...when children are left alone in the library without parental
supervision, their safety may be jeopardized. Library policy defines an
unattended child as one unable to care ofr self or in need of assistance
after being left in the building, even though a parent or caregiver may
be elsewhere in the building.
Children left unattended can wander throughout the library and can
easily go outside alone. They may even be coaxed away by someone other
than the parent or caregiver. Other unavoidable hazards include doors,
furniture, and electrical outlets."
"...library staff cannot...act as caregiver or babysitter...."
"...Do not expect one child to supervise another."
"...If any child remains at closing, the Euclid Police Department will
be called."
No specific age limits, but we do enforce it. We do throw kids out who
are not behaving, and the department head has been known to get their
names and call their homes.
Bonita
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:53:13 PDT
From: "Dana Lubow" <danalubow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Internet searching for kids
Beverly,
The Librarian's Index to the Internet (www.lii.org) lists several search
engines for kids. I've copied the adddresses and annotations for you.
Hope this helps.
Dana
Bruggemeyer Memorial Library
Monterey Park, CA
danalubow@hotmail.com
Kid's Tools for Searching the Internet - http://www.rcls.org/ksearch.htm
This page puts the best search resources for kids onto a single page.
You can find forms for Yahooligans, KidsClick, Education World, EdView
SmartZone,Awesome Library, Disney's DIG Activities Search, StudyWEB, AOL
NetFind for Kids, Ask Jeeves for Kids, and SafeSearch Internet Search.
Bookmark it for ids! - cl
Subjects: searching - best search engines | kids |
Databases
Ask Jeeves for Kids! - http://www.ajkids.com/
Enter a question in plain English and Jeeves searches its knowledgebase
of already researched questions, returns several possible question
matches, and also runs your question through WebCrawler, InfoSeek,
Excite, AltaVista, Lycos, filters the results through SurfWatch, and
presents those in drop down select boxes. - cl Subjects: kids |
searching - other search engines and indexes |
Ask Jeeves - http://www.askjeeves.com/
Similar to the Ask Jeeves for Kids site, this is a subject directory
that allows the user to enter a question in plain English. Jeeves
searches its knowledgebase of already researched questions, returns
several possible question matches, and runs your question through
WebCrawler, Yahoo, InfoSeek, Excite, AltaVista, and Lycos. The results
are presented in drop down select boxes. There is a list of the most
popular questions. - dl
Subjects: searching - other search engines and indexes |
Specific Resources
SafeKids.Com - http://www.safekids.com/
Safe Kids has been designed to encourage parent - child communication,
rather than relying solely on filtering software, and to teach young
people critical thinking skills to help them make intelligent online
choices. Includes a PowerPoint Presentation based on the booklet Child
Safety on the Information Highway that you can view online or download
and use. Reviews child safe search engines, has an up-to-date chart on
the filtering softwares, an annotated list of other sites, and more.
Developed by Los Angeles Times syndicated technology columnist and child
online safety expert, Larry Magid. - cl
Subjects: kids - internet safety | internet censoring and filtering |
Searchopolis - http://search.bess.net/
The heart of this site is a filtered search engine aimed at kids and
teens. N2H2 has filtered the Inktomi database of 100 million plus Web
pages through its list of millions of rated Web pages to produce a
database that has most objectionable sites missing. From the makers of
Bess, Internet filtering software. - ew
Subjects: searching - other search engines and indexes | kids |
teenagers |
>A while back a new search engine or index was mentioned that had been
designed especially for children. I somehow didn't keep the
information, or I can't find it. Could someone let me know what it was?
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:49:26 -0500
From: Jean Marie Schmeisser <Schmeisser@ci.sat.tx.us>
Subject: Stumper: Girl named Caroline
Hello,
A patron called today asking if we knew of a series of books that she
remembers from the 1960s. (Of course, it didn't ring any bells with any of
us.) She recalls them as being "girl books" about a little blonde girl
named Caroline. Caroline had adventures with animal friends including Inky
the black cat, Poof the white cat, and Rusty the dog. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jean Schmeisser
Schmeisser@ci.sa.tx.us
Librarian I - Children's Dept.
San Antonio Public Library
210) 207-2621
(210)207-2555 fax
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:23:29 -0500
From: "Mary Clemens" <maryc@3gcs.com>
Subject: Storytime Length
Our preschool storytimes, for 3 - 5 year olds, last 30 minutes. We offer
them in five week sessions at least three times a year.
Lapsits for 18 mos. - 24 mos. with caregiver last 20 minutes
as do our Tales for Twos (24 - 36 mos.), also with caregiver.
Hope this helps.
Mary Clemens
MLIS Student - Dominican University
Children's Librarian Assistant
Carol Stream Public Library
maryc@3gcs.com
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:31:12 -0600
From: Pam Henley <phenley@mtlib.org>
Subject: new millenium
Read Stephen Jay Gould's essay #2 in his Dinosaur in a Haystack. It gives a
wonderful explanation for why the millenium really should (and could!)start
in 2000.
________________________________________________________
Pam Henley, MLIS <phenley@mtlib.org>
Children's Librarian, Bozeman Public Library
220 East Lamme
Bozeman, MT 59715
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 01:07:39 -0400
From: Elizabeth Gallaway <egallawa@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: YA's and the Internet
I am in the midst of an exciting project to create a YA computer room at
my library. The room is being created due to the community's concerns
over children accessing the Internet --the issue of filtering was raised
before we even had graphical Internet access in our children's room!
Two years ago, we put together a community-wide technology committee to
explain what the Internet is, explain the library's position on
filtering (against), and in general, educate the public and alleviate
their concerns. We decided to go with an acceptable use policy and
guided internet access. The policy explains the Internet and the
library's desire to provide timely information to its patrons; it also
says that some things on the Internet are not appropriate in a library
setting, and that display or print-outs of obscene content is
forbidden. The librarian may determine what is obscene. Instead of
filters, we present a homepage with age-appropriate sites.
We have one Internet terminal in the children's room. Anyone may use
it, but children have preference when school is out. The Internet
terminal has no privacy screen, and is in a high traffic area. While we
don't police each user to keep an eye out for obscene material, it is
usually quite obvious when the kids are looking at something they
shouldn't be, and a librarian simply goes over to let the user know the
site is inappropriate. Often we remind the child that having Internet
access in our library is a privilege that could be taken away if s/he is
looking at illegal sites. South Park and wrestling sites are in a gray
area; for the most part we allow these sites, but will ask a child to
turn the volume down or remind him/her not to click on the ads (at the
wrestling site). For kids age 0-12, the children's room website is
located at:
http://www.haverhill.com/library/crindex.htm
In the computer area for adults there are 6 computers, all with privacy
screens. All ages are welcome to use the computers in this area. It is
not always obvious if users are looking at obscene sites, as all the
terminals face the very busy reference desk, and one cannot see through
the privacy screens unless one is right behind the computer. We address
the inappropriateness issue only when someone complains, or it is quite
obvious that the user is using the computer inappropriately.
In the new teen computer area, there will be 15-20 Internet terminals,
all without filters and without privacy screens. All ages will be
welcome, teens will have preference when school is out. The guided
website for the Teen Cyber Center is located at
http://www.haverhill.com/library/TCC
Occassionally, we have problems, often with one kid calling up a site
and pointing it out and/or physically bringing other kids over to the
computer to see what's on the screen. Often one warming is enough
- --embarassed, the kdis leave. Sometimes we end their Internet time for
the day then and there. Once or twice a parent has called, concerned
about what their child has seen on the Internet. The director speaks to
them, explains our policy, invites the parent to the library, etc.
Chat and email are allowed. We caution users to be very selective about
the information they give out about themselves on the Internet, and
offer limited assistance, usually enough to get him/her started, then
tell the user to just read the screen.
Interestingly enough, we have more complaints about our video collection
than we do about the Internet.
Hope that helps! If for any reason the links don't work, you can access
either site from our main library page, http://www.haverhill.com/library
Beth Gallaway
Haverhill Public Library
Haverhill MA
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:39:55 -0700
From: Angela Reynolds <angelar@wccls.lib.or.us>
Subject: Computer conundrum
A few months ago, I put an older computer out in the children's area
with a few CD ROMs, such as Elmo's Preschool, Sesame St. Preschool. ( I
got these on sale, very very cheap!) Now, I'm not so sure that it was a
good idea. My original thinking was, now the preschoolers have a
computer that they can use, and no-one tells them "No, that's not a
toy", because it is. An educational toy, but a toy. Now, though I have
heard many good comments about it, I have some reservations myself (oh,
I've heard negative comments also). I see lots of kids who used to run
in and grab a handful of books now run in and fight over Elmo. and yes,
there are some kids who come in more often now, but rarely do they do
more than play with Elmo. I have taken to keeping it off until Storytime
is over and the mass of kids have left the building, too many fights,
kids cant share. We do have plenty of CDROMs for check out, and the
library is in a fairly affluent community, so many of these kids have
computers at home. I want to read the book "Failure to Connect", which
talks about kids too young for computers. I'd really like to hear some
opinions (of which I am sure there are many) about this situation! I'm
seriously considering removing the offending item.
thanks-
Angela J. Reynolds
Youth Services Librarian
West Slope Community Library
3678 SW 78th Portland, OR
angelar@wccls.lib.or.us
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:03:42 -0400
From: SHERYL BAILEY <BAILEYS@charleston.lib.sc.us>
Subject: Re: new yalsa award
And it doesn't help matters that the few books we have on the topic treat 2000
as the beginning of the next millenium rather than the end of this one! I'm
already dreading the assignments I know we'll get next year ...
Sheryl Bailey
Charleston County (SC) Public Library
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:42:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Roza Abbasi <rabbasi@pub-lib.ci.fort-worth.tx.us>
Subject: Re: Storytime Format
In the storytimes, I usually plan, several related stories, a related
craft and sometimes encourage the children to read parts of the stories to
others. I especially do this for the ones reading Spanish better than I
do. Everything is flexible and can be used or dropped as necessary
depending on the mood of the audience and staff coverage.
Sometimes(during storytime) I am by myself answering reference
questions--with the clerk doing check out.
I often have junior volunteers who can run the craft part for me and I
will read the stories. I am not really certain if this helps--I hope it
gives the new people some good suggestions. I know the first year I
started doing storytimes was hard for me, but I finally found the style
that works. I just try to remember what I scanned/read in some of the
books about different learning styles--some learn better by listening,
some learn better by reading, some by touching, etc. and give them a
little bit of everything
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:10:19 -0500
From: Mary Driscoll <driscoll@scls.lib.wi.us>
Subject: age for unattended children (again!)
Many apologies for a subject we have covered a billion times. I tried to
access Pubyac archives for a week (honest!) and just wasn't allowed in. So
here we go again!
We are hoping to raise our unatteneded age from 6 to 8. the usual reasons-
teeney children left by themselves, etc., etc. (once we had a baby in
diapers toddle in by itself! We are right next to an apartment complex, and
the mother yelled at the policewoman who brought the baby home!).
I've gotten a wonderful response from libraries in my area- could I bother
others out in library land to just email the age you let kids stay by
themselves. You don't have to write a book- just the age would be great.
Many, many, thanks again-
You guys are the best!
Mary Driscoll
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:34:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anna Kells <akells@ce1.af.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: Infant Programs
Do any of you provide programming for infants - birth up to two years. I
would like to know what you do, how long does it last, how do you sign
them up, etc. Any information will be helpful. Thank you.
Anna Kells
Children's Librarian
Roswell Branch
Atlanta-Fulton Public Library System
akells@ce1.af.public.lib.ga.us
Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of
the Atlanta-Fulton Public Library System.
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:28:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Corey Bennett <bennetc@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Soft scultpure
Hi everyone,
Our library is looking for some items to decorate the walls of our
children's area. We're thinking in terms of soft sculpture or cloth
letters that would spell out "Children's Area" or something more
catchy. I
have the large catalogs from Demco, Gaylord, etc., but I was wondering if
anyone knows of a good source for this kind of thing. Luckily for us, we
have a Friends group willing to buy it/them for us. Any replies would be
most appreciated!
Corey Bennett
New Tampa Regional Library
Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library
bennetc@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:44:17 -0500 (CDT)
From: Shari Hetzke <shetzke@nslsilus.org>
Subject: Re: Help! Wizard mag...
We subscribe to Wizard and keep it in our young adult collection which is
near our popular materials area in the Adult Department. Since we have a
collection of Graphic Novels this magazine is VERY popular and rarely are
there copies on the shelves. I would say teens and twenty-somethings are
the primary users of this magazine. We have have not had any challenges.
I would definitely recommend you have Wizard especially if you have GN's.
Shari Hetzke tel 847-506-2629
Secondary School Services Specialist fax 847-506-2650
Arlington Heights Memorial Library shetzke@nslsilus.org
500 North Dunton
Arlington Heights, IL 60004
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:40:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: VASILIK@palsplus.org
Subject: RE: School Assignments and the Public Library
Nicole had written asking if we should satisfy patron need even if the quality
is poor and get lots of copies to cover school assignments. It seems - IMHO-
to be two different questions. Do we buy quantity for school assignments?
and Do we buy something that is poor quality just because we have an
assignment?In my library we try to buy quantity -- but usually whatever we can
afford is
never enough once the assignment is given! Even with lots of books on the
states, and with more than one copy of several of them at some point some are
all checked out. But we try, as much as budget permits, just like we would
for any "quantity" request -- like best sellers.
Do we buy poor quality? We really try hard not to with non-fiction.
(I can't say the same for fiction, what with Goosebumps and friends on my
paperback racks!) Instead of buying a lot of "poor quality" to satisfy
need,
I've been steering kids to some of the good specialized reference sets to
flesh out what that one circulating book has to offer.
Pat Vasilik
Children's Coordinator
Clifton Public Library
Clifton, NJ
vasilik@palsplus.org
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:20:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tamara Jones <tammycjk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fractured Fairytales
Recently, someone posted information about a Fractured
Fairytale family program that they did. I didn't save
it at the time because I thought I could search the
archives when I needed it. Of course, now the
archives are down and I need it. :( Could someone who
saved it please send it to me. Or if the original
poster could send it I would really appreciate it.
Any other ideas along this vein would also be
appreciated as we are planning this program to begin
during National TV Turnoff Week.
===
Tammy Jones TAMMYCJK@YAHOO.COM
Children's Librarian
Forest Public Library, Forest, MS
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:56:13 -0400
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: [Dial-a-story dilemna]
I have been a bookseller and I am now a librarian and it is true that the
public is FICKLE! I love the people who come in glad that you have lots of
events, but have yet to attend one....
Bina Williams
Bridgeport (CT) Public Library
bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:30:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rebecca Hastings <rhasting@vlc.lib.mi.us>
Subject: stumper wooden people
dear collective brain, a teen patron is searching for a picture book
about a village of wooden people who reward or disgrace its inhabitants
with a circle or star for behavior. it isn't the tub people, i don't
think it is the sneetches, but perhaps a similar storyline. we have
looked in a to z, but not sure what topic. dolls didn't do it. the
patron thought perhaps it had wooden in the title. thanks so much!
rebecca rhasting@vlc.lib.mi.us
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:01:05 -0500
From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: IFLA Statement on Libraries and Intellectual Freedom
The IFLA Statement on Libraries and Intellectual Freedom, prepared by
IFLA/FAIFE and approved by The Executive Board of IFLA, 25 March 1999,
The Hague, Netherlands, can be found at
http://ifla.org/V/press/pr990326.htm
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:49:11, -0500
From: FLKE88B@prodigy.com (MISS MELISSA F WALSH)
Subject: Help! Wizard mag...
Wizard magazine can be used by professionals for information but is
generally geared toward "fan boys".
It's definetly for a YA audience.
It definetly can have merit (articles on people from the comic book
industry, art how to articles, etc.) but some times comes off as very
hormonal (violence and big brested women wearing close to nothing)
Definetly not for young readers.
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:35:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Laurie Breitner <laurieb@monroe.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Craft for clean-up/tidy-up time
Dear Janis,
I have had great fun and success with finger painting using chocolate
pudding for the "mess". Clean up...is washing up the hands with soap
and
water.
We have also used choclate pudding as "mud" for under paper pigs glued
on
backgrounds....or "soil" under the spring flowers...you get the idea.
Laurie Breitner
Monroe County LIbrary System
> We are planning preschool programs for next week on the theme
> "clean-up/tidy-up". Our programmer is looking for a simple craft
relating
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 07:57:50 -0700
From: Overmyer <overmyer@crl.com>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #659
The two search engines especially for kids that I use are
KidsClick - http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/KidsClick!/
Ask Jeeves for Kids - http://www.ajkids.com/
There's also Yahoo's Yahooligans - www.yahooligans.com
For all those things that kids want that aren't covered by these, I am
always prepared to supplement with Alta Vista and other general search
engines, just as I'm always going to the adult collection for books to
supplement the children's collection.
Elizabeth Overmyer
Berkeley Public Library
Berkeley, CA
Doug and Elizabeth Overmyer
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:40:30 -0400
From: "Stow-Munroe Falls Library, Children's Room"
<stowkids@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: New Children's Rooms
We just finished our first year inour renovated space. Our computer lab is
probably the best thing so far. It houses 10 computers in the round and works
wonderfully for computer orientation (every 2nd and 6th grade class totaling
about 40 come for a visit). When not in use for a class children can use it if
they have a parent with them. Some of our sight lines are not as good as we
had hoped.Also what looked like a lot of storage space filled up REALLY fast.
With a renovation you always have the constraints of the existing building.
Good Luck
Carolyn Burrier
Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:39:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mary K. Chelton" <mchelton@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Ergonomics and kids
Given recent information about repetitive stress injuries in kids who use
computers for long periods of time, I would be interested to know 1)
whether anybody has audited the ergonomics of their own computer
furniture/light/space, etc. for ergonomics and 2) whether anyone is
planning educational programs for kids and their parents on the topic of
preventings RSIs.
Thanks,
Mary K. Chelton
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 05:28:15 PDT
From: "Ginny McKee" <ginny1222@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: unattended kids policy
Mary J. Soucie posted a note on an unattended policy with the
restriction that children be at the library for "a specific
library-related purpose- i.e. can't just be sitting in a chair staring
off into space or playing hide and go seek. If a child is doing
nothing and space is at a prime, they may very well be asked to
leave."
Here at the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh, we are re-examining our
unattended policy. But as a city library, we many times have the
experience of asking a child to leave the library [for behavior
reasons generally] and having the child respond - My mother told me I
cannot leave the building. Here as well as where I previously worked,
when we tried to call, we would learn that mom was not home and the
child refused to leave. Do others have this same situation and if so,
how do you handle it.
Ginny McKee
Youth Services Coordinator
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
mckeev@clpgh.org or ginny1222@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:23:09 -0400
From: "Capehart" <capehart@ziplink.net>
Subject: STUMPERS
Please poke your little grey cells & help my patron find the books he seeks:
This patron in his early thirties is looking for two books he loved as a
fifth or sixth-grader (think late 70's). The first is about an
extraterrestrial who visits a boy at night and teaches him telepathically
how to use telekinesis. The boy uses it to move a baseball? The plot has
something to do with a baseball game. The name of the book might be the
alien's name (beginning with a T or an E?).
The second book has to do with a cipher (maybe with the letters shifted
slightly?). The solution to the cipher has to do with a note along the lines
"I'm sweet on..." the book centers on present day kids who find the
solution
to their puzzle in children of a previous generation.
Help help! Please respond to me at the address below.
Thank you!
Tim Capehart
Head Children's Services
Leominster Public Library
Leominster, MA
tcapehar@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/7427
"If you really want to help the American theater, don't be an actress,
dahling. Be an audience." - Tallulah Bankhead
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:45:53 -0400
From: sfarrell@nypl.org (sfarrell)
Subject: Help! Wizard mag...
Any branch that has a recognizable Young Adult population, or has a
number of graphic novels in their collection, ought to consider adding
this magazine to their subscription list. They usually have some sort
of "collector comic" included with the magazine - a recent one
concerned
the adventures of the WWF's Undertaker. No collection should be without
that. Price guides, how to draw so & so, toys & upcoming publications
are regularly featured in Wizard.
It is used here most frequently by the 15 year old male set, who also
are the most frequent readers of our graphic novels. While we let this
circulate when the new issue comes in, we do keep several graphic novels
as closed shelf reference to avoid their vanishing.
Not really used (here) as a professional tool.
The only problems we've had are torn pictures every so often (someone
who made the earlier point about "bad girl" drawings was very much on
target), & the extra bonus comic usually needs to be put in a separate
binder, entered separately into the computer, etc. Most of the
magazines don't come back once they leave, either.
Shawn Farrell
Young Adult Librarian
Belmont Regional Library, NYPL
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:29:10 -0600
From: Carolyn Groves <cgroves@will.state.wy.us>
Subject: storytime length & format
Our storytimes for ages 3-5ish last for 1/2 hour. Our toddler times for
ages 3 and under last for 20 minutes. These amounts of time seem to work
well for these two different age groups. We offer 3-4 storytimes/week, and
2 toddler times/week.
Since I heard from a few individuals about my posting on fingerplays,
crafts, etc. in storytimes I have been doing a lot of thinking on the
subject, and have come up with the following. We all obviously LOVE what we
are doing, and feel strongly about the way WE do it. I'm sure we are all
working in diverse situations, and that we offer what works well for our
patrons, in a manner that suits our working styles/personalities.
I also realize that I should have said in my first posting that, this has
been MY experience at MY LIBRARY. I certainly did not mean to offend, or to
make someone feel that what they were doing was wrong. I think that this is
another example of the difficulty of fully expressing one's feelings via
email...I know that if we didn't care about our jobs, and the young people
we serve, we would NOT be spending precious time reading and responding to
something like PUBYAC.
Thanks to all for this opportunity to continue thinking and growing!
Carolyn Groves Winkler, MLS 5/99
Teton County Library
Jackson, WY
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:48:29 -0400
From: "Jerry Kuntz" <jkuntz@rcls.org>
Subject: KidsClick! URL list made public
Recently, an approach was made to RCLS by an Internet filter vendor
interested in licensing the URL list of the KidsClick! guide/index we manage
(http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/KidsClick!) Their intent was to use the list as
one of their "go to" lists, meaning that their product can be
configured to
allow access only to sites on the list (instead of blocking access to
forbidden sites.) Several, but not all, of the filter products can
accommodate this type of access.
Because KidsClick! was initiated with LSTA monies; and used other children's
web guides to create a base file of 1600 records (it's now up to about
5200); and is currently maintained by a corps of unpaid volunteers (most
outside of RCLS); and is not currently a line item on the RCLS budget--for
all these reasons we did not feel it appropriate to use the URL list
byproduct to generate income.
However, we also recognize that users of filters (not necessarily libraries)
might benefit from the URL list, as might those researching children's web
guides that differ in scope or feature from KidsClick! Therefore, we're
making the URL list public. It can be found at:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/~manager/kidslinkcheck.html
Aside from this announcement (posted to PUBLIB and PUBYAC) we're not making
any effort to communicate this information to filter vendors.
I expect we'll hear complaints from all directions on this decision: from
those who think we're putting our imprimatur on the use of filters in
libraries; from those who think we're dumb for passing up possible revenues;
from those who believe that the list should have stayed private; from end
users who object to the content in KidsClick! (I get lots of these type of
emails as it is, from people who confuse KidsClick! with filtered access!)
etc. Come what may...
Jerry Kuntz
Ramapo Catskill Library System
jkuntz@rcls.org
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Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:37:36 -0600
From: "Gale W. Sherman" <gale@poky.srv.net>
Subject: Storytime themes-- was Storytime format
>in my opinion (as someone who has been woking in
>libraires and with kids for about 10 years) that kids are not as concerned
>about "themes" as adults sometimes are...a
3 thoughts & some unifying examples:
1. The importance of themes for early childhood promgrams is to give
children a way to organize information. When they leave a thematically
based program, children have a common thread to help them remember and
discuss the books with interested adults and/or other children.
2. When we read books we need to think of all the areas (or themes) which
would benefit from using that book in a particular program.
3. It's important to do repeated readings of wonderful books.
Examples: I would use these books in some of the following themematic
programs with preschooers so they get view them from different perspetives
while enjoying the wonderful stories AT LEAST a second time during their
storytime experiences.
BOOK: Mouse Count by Ellen Walsh
THEMES: Cooperation, counting, mice, snakes
BOOK: Blueberries for Sal by Robert McCloskey
THEMES: Bears, food, food storage, fall
BOOK: To Market To Market by Anne Miranda (Illus, by Janet Stevens)
THEMES: Mother Goose/ nursery rhymes, farm animals, adventures, shopping
Gale Sherman
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Children's Literature: Beyond Basals
http://www.beyondbasals.com
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Gale W. Sherman / gale@poky.srv.net
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Beyond Basals, Inc. * Early Childhood Librarian
4685 Flora Drive * Marshall Public Library
Pocatello, Idaho 83204 * 113 S. Garfield
* Pocatello, Idaho 83204
PHONE (208) 233-9717 * PHONE (208) 232-1263
FAX (208) 232-3603 * FAX (208) 232-9266
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:46:44 -0400
From: jcampbel@ascpl.lib.oh.us (Judith Campbell)
Subject: those unattended kids again
Sorry, just had to wade in on this one. Mary Soucie states that at one of
her libraries "The library requires that the kids be there for a specific
library-related purpose- i.e. can't just be sitting in a chair staring off
into space or playing hide and go seek. If a child is doing nothing and
space
is at a prime, they may very well be asked to leave."
My question is this: Would your staff ask an adult who was sitting in a
chair staring off into space or not there for an obvious library-related
purpose to leave? Would you tell them they had to go if space was at a
premium? I sincerely doubt it. A child staring off into space is not
bothering anyone and may even be thinking of something they had just read--
who knows? Hide and seek is a behavior problem which should be dealt with
no matter what the age of the person involved; simply occupying space is not
a behavior problem.
These unattended child policies are meant as a tool for dealing with
children who are behavior problems and/or are left alone in the library for
extended periods of time. Unfortunately, they can also be used against
children who are not behavior problems, whose only crime is being of a
certain age and in the library on their own.
I speak as someone who thoroughly enjoyed going to the library on my own as
a child and staying until I was ready to go home. Others on this list have
spoken of their library alone-times as offering them a haven from terrible
conditions at home or in the neighborhood. Would it not be a wiser move to
have a patron behavior policy that relates to behaviors that are not
acceptable in the library, regardless of age? Then the hide-and-seeker can
be reprimanded/asked to leave, as can the snoring adult patron; the
daydreamer remains regardless of age, which saves your library from
explaining why a daydreaming child is more of a problem than a zoned-out
adult. And you are not faced with the thorny ethical dilemma of denying
access to the library and its resources based solely on a person's age and
whether they are accompanied by an adult.
Judith Campbell
General Manager, Branch & Mobile Services
Akron-Summit County Public Library
Akron OH
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