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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:53:42 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:20:36 -0400
From: Susanna Holstein <pkb00700@alpha.wvup.wvnet.edu>
Subject: storytime formats

I'm responding to two posts at once here:

As for length of a storytime, ours vary from 45 minutes to an hour
depending on the number of kids, the time it takes for what we have
planned, etc. That's why we call it storytime instead of storyhour,
which can cause the kind of problem you mention.

The other post was about themes:

You are correct--themes are for the convenience of the adults doing the
planning :) But it does help us focus on what we want to do sometimes. I
do not think themes are necessary; as a matter of fact, I just ifnished
a six-month series of monthly programs called Story Circle for
first-sixth graders. There was no monthly theme; I simply selected books
and activities I wanted to share. We did many participation stories,
some puppet shows (performed by the attendees, poems, songs, and other
activities. The idea was to promote a wide variety of books, not just
picture books and fiction.

Themes do not need to be so rigid that books must be excluded because
they don't "fit." The planning is up to library staff--a time for "best
books" could be included in each storytime, or every other storytime
could be a "best books" session. Or the librarian could booktalk these
books briefly during the program, include them in the displays for the
program for checkout, etc. Content is up to us, and it's up to us to
make it work for us.

Susanna Holstein
Elk Valley Library
Charleston WV

"these are my opinions, not those of my library system"

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:47:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Catherine E. Ingram" <ceingram@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: age for unattended children

(from a bookmark which states our policy)

Dear Parent/Caregiver:

It is the Library's policy that Parents are responsible for the behavior
of their children while they are on Library property. Children under the
age of eight must be attended by a parent or other responsible caregiver
age 14 or older at all times while on Library property.

Our goal is to provide a safe, enjoyable experience for each child who
visits the Library. Your co-operation is greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

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| *opinions are my own* |
| Catherine E. Ingram, M.L.S. Joliet Public Library |
| Young Adult Librarian 150 N. Ottawa St. |
| ceingram@htls.lib.il.us Joliet, IL 60432 |
| phone: 815-740-2660 http://www.joliet.lib.il.us |
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:09:39 -0400
From: Catherine Chesher <cchesh@tc3net.com>
Subject: Festival help

This summer our community (pop. 22,000) will be holding "Maple City Fest" downtown (where our library is located) in conjuction with a Mini Grande Prix race. The library would like to be a part of the festivities again and I'm looking for ideas on what I can do for kids.

Last year I held a turtle race in front of the library in keeping with the race theme. For various reasons I'm not repeating this event, although it was fun and drew a huge crowd. (If anyone would like info on how to conduct a turtle race, let me know!)

Does anyone have any ideas of something I could do, for kids, to be a part of this event? I'm thinking I could do something low key like make bookmarks, but am just fishing around for different ideas. I've thought of the obvious ideas, storytimes, puppet shows. I'm looking for something different. One thing I would like to do is make the "event" or whatever more library or book related. The turtle race was great but it didn't have much to do with libraries or books and many people (adults) didn't know it was a library event.

So, if you've done something for community's festival or whatever that was a big hit, I'd like to know.Thanks!

Cathy Chesher
Adrian Public Library
Adrian, Michigan
cchesh@tc3net.com

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:59:10 EDT
From: Susan259@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Help! Wizard mag...

Is there a magazine for comics or graphic novels that you like better? I am
new to the area of graphic novels and am very interested in learning more.

Susan Smith
Children's Librarian
Woodland West Branch
Arlington Public Library
Arlington Texas

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:20:22 -0400
From: "Earl and Kirsten Martindale" <earlmart@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: unattended kids policy

Ginny,

At my previous library, we would attempt to reach the parent by phone ("Ms.
Klein, Elmer is having some difficulty behaving this evening at the library,
and I'd like for you to come and pick him up.") but when we could not reach
anyone on the other end, we would "bench" the person. We actually had a
bench within sight of the reference desk, and I would ask the person to sit
on the bench until their parent came. This allows the opportunity to explain
the inappropriate behavior to the parent...which was all the more
interesting if I started with, "Elmer, I'd like you to tell your Mom what
happened at the library tonight." Most of the time, I would remind both
Elmer and his parent that I was sure it wouldn't happen again, and hoped to
see him again soon. Occasionally (very rarely), after being benched, a young
person would continue the inappropriate behavior, write graffiti on the
wall, call 911 when I wasn't looking or use abusive language, at which point
(I remind you this was not often!) I would say, "Elmer, since you are having
some difficulty without supervision tonight in the library and we can't get
ahold of your parents, I've called a police officer to help you. He'll be
here in a few minutes. And then let the cop do his job. And how exactly did
I know the kid's name? The first time I talked to him that night I said,
"Hi! My name is Kirsten. And you're......? We also documented everything in
a folder in the workroom, which helped for "repeat offenders."

This is a little off the subject, but my favorite line for kids who were
talking too loud was "Hi! I just wanted to let you know that we can hear
your whole conversation over here." Worked like a charm...

Kirsten Martindale
earlmart@bellsouth.net
Buford, GA

Original message:

we many times have the
> experience of asking a child to leave the library [for behavior
> reasons generally] and having the child respond - My mother told me I
> cannot leave the building. Here as well as where I previously worked,
> when we tried to call, we would learn that mom was not home and the
> child refused to leave. Do others have this same situation and if so,
> how do you handle it.
>
>

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:27:06 -0400
From: "Charm Net" <jamiew@charm.net>
Subject: Author visits

Kevin O'Malley is a WONDERFUL speaker - one of the funniest and most
entertaining I have ever seen. However, if the person who posted this is
truly from Michigan as her address reads, she may want to try Denise
Fleming, who lives much closer, in Toledo, OH. I just saw her today, as a
matter of fact and she was every bit as good, AND she showed us how to make
paper. (I personally don't care for Patricia Polacco, but I know many others
do)

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 9:35:46 -0400
From: YA assistant <JDICKEY@ESCHER.dnet.cuyahoga.lib.oh.us>
Subject: RE: those unattended kids again

Dear Judith,
Well said! We may have to set limits, based on behavior. But
we don't have to set policy that is anti children or anti teen.
Thanks for speaking up.
Janet

@/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\@
Janet Dickey, YA assistant, Cuyahoga Cty. PL (suburban Cleveland)
<jdickey@cuyahoga.lib.oh.us>
*************
Anyone's Guess (grades 6 9) and InvestiCats (grades 3 5)
Mystery Kits
http://www.lochnet.com/doubledog/main.htm
<blakdog@en.com>
@\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/@

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:27:53 -0400
From: "Kid Ref" <kidref@euclid.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Unattended children

About unattended children policies:

My boss and the director went into the matter of specific ages and
decided against. Their thinking is, that the important thing is how
well a child can manage on their own--and a ten year old with
intellectual impairments, say, may need a parent with them, while a
normal eight year old may not.

Bonita Kale
Euclid Public Library

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:31:58 -0400
From: "Kid Ref" <kidref@euclid.lib.oh.us>
Subject: porn on computer screen

I don't think you have to put up with porn being displayed on a computer
screen in a public place where you work. Talk about unwholesome working
conditions!

Now, if the porn were in the form of words on the screen, in regular
size type, it would be none of your business. But it sounds as if the
guy who leaves spread shots up is doing it on purpose to embarrass and
annoy. And I think you have the right to ask him not to. And to
enforce it by kicking him out, if need be.

Bonita
(Bonita Kale, Euclid Public Library, Euclid OH)

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 9:14:14 -0400
From: YA assistant <JDICKEY@ESCHER.dnet.cuyahoga.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: new yalsa award

RE: Millenium
I know, I know. Logically, the new millenium doesn't start till
2001. But emotionally, going from 1999 to 2000 *feels* BIG! I don't
think we can get around that, so we might as well relax and enjoy.

Janet

@/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\@
Janet Dickey, YA assistant, Cuyahoga Cty. PL (suburban Cleveland)
<jdickey@cuyahoga.lib.oh.us>
*************
Anyone's Guess (grades 6 9) and InvestiCats (grades 3 5)
Mystery Kits
http://www.lochnet.com/doubledog/main.htm
<blakdog@en.com>
@\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/^\^/@

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:11:01 +1000
From: "joseph mylee" <myleej@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Charging for videos

In Australia the Library Act prohibits public libraries from competing =
with local businesses - which means that most libraries don't charge for =
video loans.

Mylee Joseph
Manager, Outreach Services
Willoughby City Library
mylee.joseph@willoughby.nsw.gov.au

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:04:54 -0500
From: "Vollrath, Elizabeth" <evollrat@uwsp.edu>
Subject: Re: Geography Fiction

Thanks for the answer to my stumper. Everyone suggested "Paddle-to-the-Sea
by Hollings.
Elizabeth Vollrath
Portage County Public Library
1001 Main St.
Stevens Pt., WI 54481
(715) 346-1290
Fax: (715) 346-1239

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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:14:56 -0500
From: oneil <oneil@asbank.com>
Subject: Re: May themes

Pete Seegar has a recording of Bluebird, Bluebird on(I believe) Birds,
Beasts and Fish. I think it goes like this:

Bluebird, bluebird, fly through my window.
Bluebird, bluebird, fly through my window.
To buy molasses candy.

Redbird, redbird,(repeat verse)

Crow, Crow (repeat verse)

You can , of course, add other bird verses.It's a lot of fun.

Sally O'Neil
oneil@asbank.com

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:44:41 -0500
From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: Second Online Conference Related to Congress on Professional Education

Please post to your discussion lists* Thanks. Ann O.'Neill, Office
for Accreditation

Posting on behalf of Ken Haycock

The second online conference in relation to the Congress on
Professional Education is MONDAY, APRIL 12, 1999 - 5-6:30 pm Central
- --------------------------------------
The Steering Committee for the Congress on Professional Education
invites your participation in the second online conference to discuss
issues relevant to the Congress. The conference is scheduled for
Monday, April 12, 1999, 5-6:30pm CDT. Dr. Fred Roper of the
University of South Carolina will lead the Discussion on Issues in
library and Information Studies Education.

Here are some instructions that will help you participate in the
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(1) We recommend that you use a JavaScript-enabled browser such as
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:18:06 -0700
From: susand@ci.hillsboro.or.us
Subject: stumper - mouse song

Help! I just had a patron in who had heard a children's song on the radio.
She would like to share it with her grandchildren if she can find the music
and/or the book. The line she gave me is "My mouse is on the loose", altho
she's not sure if that is the actual title or just a line in the song. She
says there are other animals mentioned in the song as well. Does this sound
familiar to anyone? I've checked all of our song indexes and done some
searching online with no luck whatsoever.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Susan Dunn
Youth Services Librarian
Hillsboro (OR) Public Library
susand@ci.hillsboro.or.us

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:02:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
Subject: Re: millenium

But you considered yourself in your 20s when you hit 20 didn't you?


- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:02:21 -0700
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>

I simply point out to people that they count one to ten, not zero to nine.

ILefkowitz@aol.com wrote:

> <<Of course, they *are* aware, aren't they, that the new millenium doesn't
> start till 2001, and their award is commencing an entire year early???? >>

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:57:18 -0500
From: steffens@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: more on storytimes

Wow - an HOUR for storytime! That is a long time for little ones to sit
still in a group and stay focused. I run from 35 to 45 minutes. The
longer session are typicaly those when I do a craft (which I don't do
every time). Actually, there was a little resistance to not having a
craft every week, but I explained to the parents that this was a story
hour, and I was getting children who asked weekly what we were making. I
wanted to keep the focus on books. They got used to it, especially when
I added music and activities to music with tapes. Once the kids stopped
expecting a craft, they seem to be happy with a variety of fingerplays,
songs, books, feltboard, and puppets.
Susan
steffens@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:16:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Subject: millennium, renting videos

Ilene, my husband, too, keeps insisting that "the" millenium doesn't change
over till 2001. But who cares? The whole thing is artificial anyway--
what we're really celebrating is a change in numbers, like watching the car
odometer turn over 100,000. We just happen to use a system which changes
numbers next year, so why not have a party?

Our library doesn't charge for videos, but sometimes I wish we would, at
least for current films. The demand is enormous, and I'd rather see a lot
more money spent on nonfiction videos, which are harder to get from video
rental places.

I'm not serious about wanting to charge. At least, I don't think I am.

Bonita

- --
Bonita Kale
bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:32:04 -0400
From: "Tracey Firestone" <tfiresto@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Wizard Magaizine On-line

Since I am unable to remember which list has been discussing Wizard =
magazine, I thought I'd post to the lists that seem most likely to have =
this discussion. I apologize for the cross-posting. =3D:-)

Today Wizard On-line premiered a new section of their webpage just for =
librarians. It includes, at this time, only a list of comics they find =
suitable for library collections. In the future, they plan to add a =
section for librarians' questions, communication and reviews. The =
address is http://www.wizardworld.com/library/ give it a look but check =
back every so often to see how it will evolve.

Good luck to everyone who is considering adding comic books and graphic =
novels to their collection. Teens (and adults) love them and it never =
hurts to have a boost in circulation!

Tracey

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Tracey Firestone - tfiresto@suffolk.lib.ny.us
Young Adult Specialist
Suffolk Cooperative Library System
627 N. Sunrise Service Rd
Bellport, NY 11713
Phone: (516) 286-1600 x1352
FAX: (516) 286-1647

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:03:34 -0600
From: Jo-Anne Cooper <wpl1@incentre.net>
Subject: Re: Infant Programs

I require this information too. I would like to apply for a grant to fund
this program and would love to have input. If any of you have sample
brochures, articles or registration forms please e-mail me or fax me at
1-780-352-3266. Thank you.

Anna Kells wrote:

> Do any of you provide programming for infants - birth up to two years. I
> would like to know what you do, how long does it last, how do you sign
> them up, etc. Any information will be helpful. Thank you.
>
> Anna Kells
> Children's Librarian
> Roswell Branch
> Atlanta-Fulton Public Library System
> akells@ce1.af.public.lib.ga.us
>
> Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of
> the Atlanta-Fulton Public Library System.

- --
Jo-Anne C. Cooper
Manager of Library Services
Wetaskiwin Public Library
5002 - 51 Avenue
Wetaskiwin, Alberta.
T9A 0V1
Phone 1-780-352-4055
FAX 1-780-352-3266
e-mail wpl1@ccinet.ab.ca

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:43:12 EDT
From: CCullum621@aol.com
Subject: RE: Shelving of Easy Fiction

Hello everyone again. I haven't written in a long time but this group has
always been quite helpful and interesting to follow.

Here's a puzzler I was wondering about:

I've been visiting a number of libraries while I do research for my
new
book and I've noticed that a number of libraries file their easy
fiction
books very loosely. What I've seen is that they simply put the first
letter
of the authors name on the spine. All books with the letter "B" are
just
grouped together randomly. My library puts the whole author's last
name
and the books are filed alphabetically by the entire name just as the
adult materials are.

When I asked librarians why they did this they said that usually
people
simple just browse through those books so it's easier to file them in
that matter. I was amazed to hear this since at my library we get
many
calls from patrons or our other branches asking for a particular
title and
author and if they were simply filed under"B" it would take a long
time
to locate the book on the shelves with all the Berenstain, Brown, etc.

My question is: How do you file your Easy Fiction materials and what
is
your rationale behind your method?

Thanks for any information you can offer me and this is no reflection on
anyone's method. We all have different needs. I was just wondering what my
friends in
this field are doing out there.


Carolyn N. Cullum
Children's LIbrarian
Edison, NJ
CCullum621@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:04:47 -0400
From: "Edlyn C. Theiss" <theissed@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Infant Programs

Anna,

You may wish to order the book, LAPSIT SERVICES FOR THE VERY YOUNG,
by Linda L. Ernst, published by Neal-Shuman. It is a great resource to get
one started and also has sample programs.
Our library has Lapsit story time-try to limit size to 10-12
children, ratio-one parent/one child. It lasts 15-20 minutes and is
predominately a modeling program on how to interact and introduce books and
language to your child. It has been successful and the branches are also
beginning to implement their
sessions. Good luck! The research is showing that it is vital to start these
kind of programs for this age! Contact Sue McLeaf Nespeca at the Lima Public
Library in Lima, Ohio for more info. also-she has a wealth of knowledge in
this area!!
Edlyn Theiss
Coordinator/Collection Development
Stark County District Library
Canton, Ohio 44720

Anna Kells wrote:

> Do any of you provide programming for infants - birth up to two years. I
> would like to know what you do, how long does it last, how do you sign
> them up, etc. Any information will be helpful. Thank you.
>
> Anna Kells
> Children's Librarian
> Roswell Branch
> Atlanta-Fulton Public Library System
> akells@ce1.af.public.lib.ga.us
>
> Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of
> the Atlanta-Fulton Public Library System.

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:48:05 -0500
From: "Kristin Hawksworth" <kristinh@nslsilus.org>
Subject: millenium issue and others...

<<Of course, they *are* aware, aren't they, that the new millenium
doesn't start till 2001, and their award is commencing an entire
year early???? >>

<<Am I the only one out there who is sick and tired of people
heralding the year 2000 as the start of the new millenium? I have
given up trying to explain it to people, too confusing.>>

I think that most people are fully aware that the new millenium will
not begin until 2001. (we've been reminded often enough, eh?) But,
between the whole y2k issue and the plain fact that the changeover
from 1999 to 2000 seems much more significant and interesting,
2001 is not going to seem as "new millenium" as 2000 is for most
people. I, for one, am more sick of the whole issue being over-
intellectualized. Why does it bother some if i'm more excited
about 2000 that 2001? In the big picture, do details like this really
deserve this much attention? Just my two cents...

Wait, while i'm on my soapbox, I'm still extremely angry at the
fellow suggesting that overweight teens shouldn't have magazines
with realistic sized models in their libraries because it will deter
them from losing weight like they should and could if they just tried
harder. um, were you ever overweight yourself? tolerence and
acceptance, what interesting concepts... by the way, aren't we
supposed to serve the needs of the public?

kristin hawksworth
children's librarian
algonquin area public library district
algonquin, il

opinions expressed are my own, and not those of the library...

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