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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:11:31 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #664
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:36:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mary Johnson (amk)" <mjohnson@wlsmail.wls.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: May themes
I remember the bluebird song and game vivdly from wen I was a small
child, probably because I liked it so much. It starts with a group of
boys and girls standing in a circle holding hands - hands up to make
windows. ONe little boy or girl is te bluebird. The other children sing:
Bluebird, bluebird, through my window (3x)
Oh, Johnny, I'm so tired.
Then:
Take a little girl(boy) and tap her(him) on the shoulder(3x)
Oh, Johnny, I'm so tired.
The action: The child who is the bluebird goes in and out under the arms
of te other children. When they sing the second verse, te bird taps a
child and they join hands. Then both go snaking in and out. Each time
the second verse is sung, the bird chooses another child, until finally
all are chosen. So you end up with all the kids but one holdng hands,
just the way you started. Then the last child gets to be the bird. I
think I liked it so much because I thought it was pretty, bot the motions
and the song. Also, it's a cooperative game with no winners or losers.
I know I've been going on at great length - but I did like this game!
Hope it helps.
Mary Johnson, YA librarian, North Castle Library, Armonk, NY 10504
(mjohnson@wls.lib.ny.us)
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:27:21 -0400
From: "Mary Lou Simons" <brackcpublib@kih.net>
Subject: Fried Marbles
Years ago I had a scout troop and we did "Fried Marbles" and made them
=
into a necklace. You put them in the oven and then in ice water. Does =
anyone have the instructions? Would like to do this for Summer Reading.
Mary Lou Simons
Bracken County Public Library
Brooksville, Kentucky=20
brackcpublib@kih.net
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:12:51 EDT
From: LibraryAn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Shelving of Easy Fiction
In a message dated 4/8/99 9:50:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CCullum621@aol.com writes:
<< Hello everyone again. I haven't written in a long time but this group
has
always been quite helpful and interesting to follow. >>
Hi, I am at the Greenville County Library in South Carolina and we also have
our E books loosely filed. Our main library is very busy and young
children are constantly browsing the picture book collection, pulling out the
books and looking at them etc., because of this we just loosely file the
books so we don't have to continually go over and rearrange them and get in
the patrons way. It does take us a little longer to find a particular book
when we need it but not as much time as we would spend if we had to keep them
in perfect order. We do keep our J books alphabetized and some of our
branches that are small and not as busy keep their picture books
alphabetized. I guess there are advantages and disadvantages to each way.
Hope this helps.
Karen Allen
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:40:56 -0400
From: Lorie <odonnell@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Shelving of Easy Fiction
Carolyn, We have the big colored letter stickers from demco and put the first
letter of the author's last name on the spine. Then the books are filed by that
letter. It is too difficult and time consuming to try to keep the books in
perfect alphabetical order with over a hundred preschool and early elementary
kids throught he children's room every day. That is just for the picture
books/easy fiction. The rest of the room is in perfect order, of course (tongue
in cheek).
I find it is easier to look thru a single letter for a book, than to search thru
the whole section for the many, many books that used to be misfiled. We just
started this system a few months ago, and already I am noticing a huge change in
the time i spend reshelving, shelf reading, adn searching. Even the really young
kids can see the letters and colors and put the books back correctly.
Hope this helps.
Lorie O'Donnell
Children's Librarian
Jervis Public Library
Rome, NY
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:45:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: carmel <carmel@ulysses.sebridge.org>
Subject: Re: Infant Programs
We participated in a program called "Babies and Books" funded by a
Federal Library Services and Technology Act grant through the New York
State Library and the Mid-Hudson Library System (our system).
Participating libraries were given small grants to purchase board books,
music or video for toddlers, and/or parenting books. We did a program
for mothers and infants from 3 to 9 months. We tried to gear it toward
first time mothers because we wanted to avoid having siblings to
distract. We did a half hour program of songs, games and nursery rhymes,
teaching the mothers how to use them as they cuddle and play with the
babies. We stressed the importance of language development, introduced
some of our toddler books and how to use them with infants. Each mother
was given a shopping bag with a "Goodnight Moon" board book, pamphlet
for
parents that included nursery rhymes and suggestions for language
development and reading to babies, as well as a really adorable t-shirt
transfer of a baby on a crescent moon that could be ironed on. Similar
bags were distributed to new mothers at the local hospital with a list of
local libraries and a suggestion to come to the library for books on
parenting. This was an absolutely successful and sweet program. It was
such a joy to watch the mothers and infants as they sang together.
Everyone loved it, and we will be repeating it annually, even though the
grant is over, because it was so successful. I will fax the information
sheet to you. Different libraries worked with older ages with varying
success. We do a toddler playgroup as one of our regular programs..
(actually 3 a week because of demand..group size limited to 10). This is
for children 18 months to almost 3 and a parent or caregiver. It lasts
about 40 minutes. The first 20 minutes is playtime... library puzzles,
toys (which are used only for this program), socialization.. especially
for the moms! The second 15 minutes or so the children sit in the
parent's lap,or on the floor, and there are lots of songs and fingerplays
and one simple book..like Anno's Peek-A-Boo. Each session ends with
Ring-Around-the-Rosy. Most of the songs are repeated every week because
this group LOVES repetition and are delighted when they can sing the
whole song. Good luck. Marilyn Schlansky, Carmel
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:15:49 -0400
From: Lorie <odonnell@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Internet use/Library card age
Beverly,
1. at any age, as long as they are able to use a computer
2. at age 18
Lorie O'Donnell
Jervis Public Library
Rome, NY
Beverly Little wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> A two part question for those who offer Internet access to minors.
> 1. At what age can a child access the Internet at your library without
parental permission?
>
> 2. At what age can a child get her/his own card without parental
permission?
>
> We are thinking of connecting the two at our library, but would like to
know what is common at other libraries. Please reply directly to me, preferably
by April 7th. Short notice, I know.
>
> TIA
>
> BeverlyLittle
> Head of Youth Services
> Merrimack Public Library, NH
> blittle@merrimack.lib.nh.us
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:58:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: millennium, renting videos
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bonita Kale wrote:
> Ilene, my husband, too, keeps insisting that "the" millenium
doesn't change
> over till 2001. But who cares? The whole thing is artificial anyway--
> what we're really celebrating is a change in numbers, like watching the car
> odometer turn over 100,000. We just happen to use a system which changes
> numbers next year, so why not have a party?
Cheers! Bonita. The millenium argument seems to me to be whether unicorns
*really* have spiral straight horns rather than curved smooth ones. Pliny
or the narwal, eh?
Kirsten Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:12:19 -0500
From: "Mary Clemens" <maryc@3gcs.com>
Subject: Fw: unattended children policy
>Mary, your report, LATCHKEY CHILDREN AND THE PUBLIC LIBRARY,
is not forgotten. I used it just this past semester for a report on
Latchkey Children
I prepared for my Administration class. I found it to be of great use.
>
>In regards to the original question as to what the policy is for
>unsupervised children, our library states the following, (paraphrased):
>
>Children under 6 must be directly supervised by an adult, i.e.
>eye contact must be maintained.
>
>Children ages 6 - 18 are free to use the library unsupervised as long as
>their behavior is not disruptive to other patrons or staff members.
>Children acting up are asked to leave the library, and we record this
>information in a log book. Repeated offenses warrant a letter to the
>parents/guardians and a temporary suspension of library privileges (1 week,
>1 month, etc.)
>
>In cases where we suspect we've become the "daycare provider" for
a child,
>the dates and times of their attendance at the library is logged for a
>period of time. If a pattern emerges, a letter is sent to the parents
>stating that a library is a public place, we can't "watch" the
children,
>etc. The children who are at the library because they've been told to go
>there after school, usually don't want to be there, especially for hours on
>end, and tend to become disruptive out of boredom.
>
>Don't know if you have a problem with unattended children after closing.
>Provisions are made and reminders are given for them to call for rides. If
>the ride hasn't arrived within fifteen minutes of closing,
>the police are contacted.
>
> A number of other libraries in this area have similar policies to ours.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Mary Clemens
>MLS 9/99 - Dominican University
>Children's Librarian Assistant - Carol Stream Public Library, IL
>maryc@3gcs.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mary K. Chelton <mchelton@pop.erols.com>
>Subject: unattended children policy
>
>
>>I need to remind everybody that although it is supposedly being revised,
>>ALA is still selling the monograph called LATCHKEY CHILDREN AND THE
PUBLIC
>>LIBRARY jointly produced by ALSC and PLA over ten years ago, which
>>attempted to give both guidelines for writing policy in this area and
>>examples of various policies. I share this fact because I was the
>>principal author of the tome and get frustrated that nobody seems to
know
>>about it--not that it has been promoted by ALA, of course. While the
>>bibliography is dated, the rest still sounds pretty relevant to the
>>contexts people describe here. If those of you needing the information
find
>>it useless, please tell me and I will no longer remind anybody of its
>>existence.
>>
>>Mary K. Chelton
>>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:16:30 -0400
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: porn on computer screen
I took a sexual harassment workshop and I believe that this would fall into
the "hostile work environment" category (going along with colleagues
with
pin-ups on the wall.) I'd check with your director about what you can do.
Also, if that doesn't work, check with your town offices.
Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us
my opinions, not the library's!
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:44:00 -0500
From: Judy Stewart <stewartj@clpgh.org>
Subject: RE: pubyac V1 #662
Fractured Fairy Tales
I would love to hear about this program if whoever wrote about it before
wouldn't mind posting again.
Thanks
Judy Stewart
Community Library of Allegheny Valley
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:10:46 -0400
From: "Helen Mochetti" <helenmi@lori.state.ri.us>
Subject: Re: age for unattended children (again!)
helenmi@lori.state.ri.us
At Westerly,(RI) Public Library our policy states "children under 9 years
of age must be supervised by a person 12 years of age or older." (12 is
the age at which children may attend the Babysitting Basics course at the
local Y.)
We find that most of our problems, however, are caused by children and
toddlers in the company of inattentive parents....children who are
babysitting are usually very conscious of their responsibility, and
introduce us to their charges, are careful about noise and so on.
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:16:30 -0400
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: porn on computer screen
I took a sexual harassment workshop and I believe that this would fall into
the "hostile work environment" category (going along with colleagues
with
pin-ups on the wall.) I'd check with your director about what you can do.
Also, if that doesn't work, check with your town offices.
Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us
my opinions, not the library's!
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:12:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rich McDonald <rmcdonal@prairienet.org>
Subject: Poetry stumper
Patron seeking the poet of a short whimisical verse: The Baby Learns.
Each line starts with a day of the week..On Monday the baby learned...
The learning becomes more complex each day.
The telling last line is:"On Sunday the baby plans to retire."
Checked Index to Children's Poetry through 1992. Brief search on net
didn't yield a helpful poetry index site.
Does anyone know this one? Please respond to <rmcdonal@prairienet.org>.
Thanks for your help in answering this patron's question.
Rich
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:38:44 +1000
From: ssteed@parracity.nsw.gov.au
Subject: Unattended children
At Parramatta City Library we are in the process of getting our 'children
in the library' policy approved by council (we are a local council library
in Sydney). We had it checked by council solicitors and have set our age
for unattended children at 10. Because we don't want to discourage them
from coming to the library, if children are unattended but of school age
and well behaved, we will not kick them out - if there is cause for
concern, we have a letter and brochure we can send home to their parents or
we will phone them. This information is also to be given to any parent
registering someone under 18.
Sarah Steed
ssteed@parracity.nsw.gov.au
Visit our Web Site : http://www.ParraCity.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:02:28 EDT
From: LaceyDport@aol.com
Subject: Classification of Folk Tales
Thanks to Pubyac feedback, I have chosen the topic for my cataloging/
classification paper and, in connection with that, I am surveying children's
folk tale classification practices of Dewey public libraries. In our local
library network, I have found four common shelving practices:
1) Some folk tales are with the picture books
2) In 398.2 (or 398) under author name
3) In "Fairy Tales" section under author name
4) In 398.209 with a geographic subdivision (either dewey or spelled
out--Africa, China, etc.--and then author name)...but only
about 5 of 30+ libraries do this.
I'd be grateful to what practices other libraries follow--where, for example,
do you have Lon Po Po by Young? Stone Soup by Marcia Brown? Anansi the Spider
by McDermott? Golem by Wisniewski?
Can patrons looking for folk tales from Russia, for example, easily find what
they want?
What do you find are the advantages and disadvantages of your system? Have
you considered changing it? Why or why not?
Thanks in advance for any and all feedback!
Rebecca Verrill Smith
Simmons GSLIS student
"Christopher Robin came down from the Forest to the bridge, feeling all
sunny
and careless and just as if twice nineteen didn't matter a bit, as it didn't
on such a happy afternoon." --A.A. Milne, The House at Pooh
Corner
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