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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:12:15 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #799
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:44:35 -0400
From: Sally Jeanne Kappler <sjk@curtislibrary.com>
Subject: Re: Parenting collections
Just wanted to thank everyone for the wonderful (and creative!) suggestions
for our new parenting collection. It really helps to be able to draw on
all your talent and experience. I think we now know the questions to ask to
shape our vision of this much-needed resource for Youth Services.
Sally Jeanne Kappler
Coordinator of Youth Services
Curtis Memorial Library
Brunswick ME 04011
sjk@curtislibrary.com
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:41:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tanya DiMaggio <tanya@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us>
Subject: "wishes/wishing" program
Dear friends, I would like to do an afterschool program, for children in
grades k-4 with a "wishes/wishing" theme. Has anyone else done this?
Any
ideas for books, participatory stories, draw or cut and tells and the
like? I have a craft (this is how the whole thing started, "make an
Ethiopian wish scroll and make a wish for the new year". I am planning to
do McDermott's The Stone Cutter, Amy Tan's The Moon Lady, and the
fairytale, the Fisherman and his Wife. I will book talk Franny
Billingsley's Well Wished. I would really like to do more positive
stories, such as about wishing good will and that sort of thing. Please
respond to me personally, rather than to the list. Thank you all for your
help and expertise. Tanya
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Tanya DiMaggio
Children's Librarian
Slidell Branch
St. Tammany Parish Library
555 Robert Blvd.
Slidell,LA 70458-1600
504-646-6470 x17
504-645-3553 fax
tanya@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:52:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tanya DiMaggio <tanya@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us>
Subject: COMPUTERS IN THE CHILDRENS ROOM- AGAIN
Dear friends,
I know this has been discussed many, many times on the list, however, as
the archives are not accessible, I need to ask the list one more time. Our
branch has received a donation of two nice computers and a few educational
games to install on them to be used in the children's room. There will be
no Internet access (they can get that in the "electronic library", a
separate room in the library). We would like to know what the policies and
procedures for use are in other libraries. In addition, not only what
works, but what doesn't work. I recall that there was a discussion on this
very topic recently, but, at the time I didn't need it... Could the last
person who sent out this same request please send me the information
gathered. I would appreciate it very much. Thank you. Tanya
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Tanya DiMaggio
Children's Librarian
Slidell Branch
St. Tammany Parish Library
555 Robert Blvd.
Slidell,LA 70458-1600
504-646-6470 x17
504-645-3553 fax
tanya@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:33:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: Halloween Costumes
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Lisa Hunziger wrote:
> Halloween is approaching, and at our library we are looking for ideas
> for costumes that the Children's staff can wear during programs. I know
There's always dungarees, boots, leather jacket & slouch hat - and a
backpack full of good books at the shoulder - for Illinois Jones, Indie's
librarian cousin....
Kirsten A. Edwards "It's 1999, of course they have a list of them
kirstedw@kcls.org on the Web, everything's on the Web these days,
when I was in school, we would have had to walk
to the LIBRARY and find a bunch of DEAD TREES
glued together on a DUSTY SHELF, and it would
have been OUT OF DATE ANYWAY!" - C.K. Davis
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: food for thought:violence in the media
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Rebecca Smith wrote:
> I don't have an answer to this, but in regards to children copying violence
> they see on tv, My 19 month old son will see the Tellytubbies gving each
> other a hug, and then he will come over and give me a hug, if they are
> standing on one leg, he will try to stand on one leg. What if they hit each
> other, would he copy that, too?
At a summit conference on youth violence (toward & by), a professor doing
research into the causal links between infants/toddlers and the influence
of television had some pretty solid data confirming that kids mimic what
they see on T.V. - and that overall violence levels based on hours spent
viewing T.V. went up. [*]
But what I wish I could recall, is the recent study which indicated that
it really doesn't matter *what* very young children watch on T.V., but
T.V. viewing itself that can cause damage. I remember the writer making
noises like "well, I guess saying that you only let your kid watch two
hours of T.V a day - sesame street type shows - is like reassuring
yourself that you're only giving your kid two joints of marijuana a day
instead of PCP."
It will be interesting to see where this winds up.
Kirsten A. Edwards "It's 1999, of course they have a list of them
kirstedw@kcls.org on the Web, everything's on the Web these days,
when I was in school, we would have had to walk
to the LIBRARY and find a bunch of DEAD TREES
glued together on a DUSTY SHELF, and it would
have been OUT OF DATE ANYWAY!" - C.K. Davis
[*] what made it so convincing was the longitudinal (10 years or more)
studies involving communities w/out T.V. who then acquired it - in places
as diverse as Africa and Canada.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:50:23 -0600
From: Joan Marie McColley <jmmccolley@estreet.com>
Subject: Re: special days
Yes, Elizabeth there is. One source I know of is Totline magazine. It
comes every two months and has a colorful pull-out calendar inside with
just these type of things listed.
Marie McColley
Patron Services Librarian
Wheat Ridge Library
Jefferson County Public Libraries, Colorado
At 09:35 AM 8/27/99 PDT, you wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I often see people mentioning special days such as National Chocolate Chip
>Cookie Day and National Sandwich Day in their postings. Is there a calendar
>that lists all of these special days?
>
>Elizabeth O'Brien
>
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
>
>
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:45:01 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: food for thought:violence in the media
Rebecca Smith wrote:
> I don't have an answer to this, but in regards to children copying violence
> they see on tv, My 19 month old son will see the Tellytubbies gving each
> other a hug, and then he will come over and give me a hug, if they are
> standing on one leg, he will try to stand on one leg. What if they hit each
> other, would he copy that, too?
Well, let's just say that the likelihood of his so doing would increase. Back
when the 3 Stooges were big it was quite common to read about kids who would
damage their siblings after watching the lads poke eachother in the eyes,
belabor eachothers craniums etc. without seemingly suffering long lasting
damage. Granted - most kids aren't this impressionable; nonetheless, exposing
them to a steady diet of realistically portrayed carnage is not the act of a
genius if we hope that they're going to get ini the habit of resolving their
conflicts peacefully and amicably... But don't take my word for it - ask your
pediatrician.
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
>
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:03:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: Filtering Monster hits LA
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, michael crosby wrote:
> I hate to say this but the Los Angeles County Supervisors have asked
> Sandra Reuben, the County Librarian to come up with some kind of
> filtering system to help "protect" our children when they use the
> internet while at the library.
Hmm, I'm not sure (based on the part I snipped) that any answer isn't a
"lesser evil" but how about this: Children's cards are keyed with a
filter on/off command and library users must have cards (Free "temp
cards"
can be gotten at the desk for those without cards if they trade in a piece
of I.D.) to use the terminals with internet access. Kids/adults who
forget their card can have their status looked up & the appropriate temp.
card given [*]
In order to use the terminals in the first place, the card number is typed
into a password box. "filter on" cards bring up a filtered internet
browser
(choosing which one will *always* be a lesser evil and you'll need caveats
warning that this is NO guarantee that internet nastiness will always be
blocked.) "Filter Off" cards bring up unfiltered access.
Finally, if the keyboard/mouse aren't used for some specified amount of
time (2 minutes? Three?) the screen will flash a "more time?" promt
and if
not answered, will promtly shut down the browser.
Note that this will not stop the child *determined* to access porn, but in
that case, fiters or no, the parents have bigger problems than a public
library can be expected to solve.
HTH
Kirsten A. Edwards "It's 1999, of course they have a list of them
kirstedw@kcls.org on the Web, everything's on the Web these days,
when I was in school, we would have had to walk
to the LIBRARY and find a bunch of DEAD TREES
glued together on a DUSTY SHELF, and it would
have been OUT OF DATE ANYWAY!" - C.K. Davis
[*] Sounds like an intrusive bureaucratic mess, doesn't it? Well, I did
warn that it would be only a lesser evil - but it retains some
of the individual rights of those adults *and their children* who
don't want filters.
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:32:37 -0500
From: Belinda Sakowski <sakowski@grayson.edu>
Subject: Re: Library Stickers
Hi,
The Rivershore Reading Store, 2005 32nd street, Rock Island,IL 61201
(309)788-7717 e-mail rivershore@earthlink.net has all kinds of great stickers!
At 07:47 PM 8/27/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi,
>I am looking for a supplier of stickers that read "I got my library
card
>today". We had some of these stickers which I can only describe as
being
>about 3" circles in bright pink. We'd like to purchase more to give out
>when kids get their first library card. Our young patrons love them!
>I've looked in Demco, ALA, and Smilemakers. Do these ring a bell with
>anyone?
>
>Carol Kubala
>Columbia, CT/Saxton B. Little Free Library
>
>
>
>
Belinda Sakowski E-Mail: sakowski@grayson.edu
Sherman Public Library Phone: (903)892-7240
421 N. Travis Fax: (903) 892-7101
Sherman, Texas 75090
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:46:05 -0400
From: "Hudson, Sarah" <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>
Subject: Teen Magazines
Hi,
YSB ceased publication about 2 years ago.
(If it's reemerged, please let me know, because it
was extremely popular!)
We just added a new magazine at our library,
called Jump. It is along the lines of Seventeen,
YM, etc.. It does feature culturally diverse teens,
and one sample issue we got had a positive article
on teens that were not size 5's, but 18s. I'm thinking
that it also featured an article or two for young men.
I think you could write for a sample issue to see if
you like it.
This is the url for Jump that I found in AltaVista.
http://www.celebritysightings.com/jump-popup.cfm
Hope this helps,
Sarah
Sarah Hudson
"Opinions are mine and do not reflect those of the Library"
Information Specialist
Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County
Independence Regional Branch
shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us
Check out our Reader's Club: www.readersclub.org
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:32:46 -0500
From: Dana Estes <de2345@tds.net>
Subject: Re: Graphic novels
Holly,
When I worked at the High school library we shelved our graphic novels with
the other books concerning comic books and comic book art.
Dana Estes
Hancock Public Library
Hawesville,KY
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:13:28 -0500
From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: ABC News and Censorship
ABC News is looking for "visuals" for a special it is producing on
censorship (particularly in schools) and free speech. They are
looking for Banned Books Week or other events where people might be
reading outloud from Banned Books or students discussing what
censorship means. Contact Mark Golden at mark.golden@abc.com.
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:09:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: Stumper-Pirate poem
Rhonda,
Have you tried www.poemfinder.com? Or do you have this? You can put in
key words from anywhere in the text and search for the poem. If you
don't have poemfinder let me know and I'll search it for you.
Rosalie Olds
King County Library System
Renton, WA
On Fri, 27
Aug 1999, Rhonda Jessup wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> An elderly patron remembers a bits of a poem he memorized in school and
> I hope that one of you knows what it is! We have checked Granger's to
> no avail. This is what he remembers:
>
> I was a pirate once
> A bold fellow with a scarlet sash and language (?) rash
> I marooned a man on an island bare
> Took treasure wealth untold
> Bright bars of silver and chunks of gold.
>
> Sound familiar to anyone?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rhonda Jessup
> Acting Chief Librarian/
> Coordinator of Children's and Adult Services
> Whitby Public Library
> Whitby, Ontario, Canada
>
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 9:00:25 -0400
From: Serena Butch <SCP_BUTCH@sals.edu>
Subject: RE: Library Stickers
I just saw some in the new Demco supplement. They feature Arthur. I also
believe the Rivershore store catalog has them.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:22:39 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
Cathy Ormsby wrote:
> But, Chuck, how do we get into the minds of every parent and every child
who
> comes through our door?
Of course we can't - we can only do our best to give them whatever kind of help
they're seeking/needing
> That's what I mean by "opening a can of worms".
> For example, several years ago, when I was just starting out, I recommended
> "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" to a parent for her
child, because
> she wanted "Christian" stories. I was told in no uncertain terms
by her
> that she did not consider that book to be Christian, because it had to do
> with witches, etc. etc. Do I then argue with her and try to convince her?
Should have observed to her that last time you red the Bible there were witches
in IT too ;>)
> I don't claim to have all the answers to these situations, and rest
> assured, in providing information, I customize my service to match the
needs
> of the individual patron as closely as possible. I do not equate belief in
> intellectual freedom with blindly leading children to any resource at all,
> but I do place the primary nurturing responsibility on parents and
> caregivers.
Ah - PRIMARY may be the operative word here. I believe our responsibility to be
secondary here but nonetheless still important.
> My professional responsibility is to provide reference
> services, reader's advisory, and to promote literacy by offering meaningful
> programs for parents, caregivers, and children.
These are indeed probably our primary professional responsibililties, but I
believe there are many others as well such as designing and maintaining an
inviting atmosphere, presiding over behaviour, cultivating relationships with
patrons of all ages etc. I am sure you do a fine job... C
>
>
> Cathy
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:29:45 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
Fire has always existed too, but a prudent person will perhaps feel moved to
action if they see unsupervised children playing with it. Maybe we can equate
graphically violent imagery with kerosine in this equation, in that it makes
it a lot easier for evil to do harm???
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
Dana Estes wrote:
> That line quoted from the Bible only goes on to further prove my point that
> evil has and always will exist in this world. Putting the blame on
> entertainment is only taking the easy way out.
> Dana Estes
> Library assistant
> Hancock Public Library
> Hawesville,KY
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:33:44 -0400
From: RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
It is my belief that knowledge is not a harmful thing. Being aware helps us be
better prepared. Childhood has been romanticized and its real purpose as a
training period to become capable, productive and sensible fellow human beings
is tossed aside in favor of a sheltered, protected, useless period of learning
"harmless" nonsense. This is just my opinion, of course.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:02:57 -0500
From: "Amy Hogan" <ahogan@bham.lib.al.us>
Subject: Re: YA magazine query
YSB has not been in publications for a couple of years now, which is a shame.
It was a very good general interest magazine for young African Americans. When
I tried to find a replacement, all I could find were magazines on hairdo and
rap lyrics, nothing with real "meat" to it. I was never able to find
anything
that came close to the quality of YSB. Granted, this was several years ago, and
it is possible that there are new publications out there similar to YSB, or that
they have even begun publication again. I hope so!
HTH
Amy A. Hogan
ahogan@bham.lib.al.us
Serena Butch wrote:
> Does anyone out there receive YSB magazine? YSB stands for Young Sisters
and
> Brothers and is aimed at African American teenagers. If you do get it, is
it
> circulating well? Any other suggestions for a newish teen magazine...Not
> Teen People - we get that already. Reply to me directly.
SCP_Butch@sals.edu.
> Thanks, Serena Butch.
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:44:55 -0500
From: Jennifer McQuilkin <hzz006@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: responses to fairy tale weeding
Pubyacers--
Many people said "Help I have the same problem." So I am posting the
responses to the general list. Many responses discussed "easy" fairy
tales--single story, great pictures ie Lon Po Po. These type books are
circulating well here but I received some great new ideas to keep those
circulating. 1. Many libraries catalog "easy" fairy tales with the
picture books. 2. Use fairy tales in storytime and have displays. 3.
Create story boxes with fairy tale, puppet, props etc. circulate to
parents, branch libraries, daycares, schools.
Responses to the longer chaper book, collection/anthology type fairy tales:
The overwhelming response was Don't Touch Them!
1. A library has a chapter club and the librarian reads a story from a
collection and displays other books for check out.
2. Promote books to parents so they know they are there.
3. Index the collection.
4. Combine fractured fairy tales with classics in a program or display to
move them.
5. Buy newer versions of fairy tales or replace worn out copy if still in
print.
6. A library with multiple branches has divided the collection among the
branches.
This discussion brought up questions of who we serve. The collection as it
is now serves teachers, storytellers, college students. If someone knows a
story (or fragment of a story)
they want we can track it down and provide it. If someone already
appreciates tales they can browse and enjoy the collection. But because of
condition of books, age, cramped space etc. it really does not invite
people (children or adults) who don't already enjoy fairy/folk tales. In
the future I am going to keep new 398's on the new shelf longer --once they
get sandwiched between the older stuff they rarely circulate. I am also
working with teachers to include folktales in their lesson plans. Often
kids have to find recipes, clothes etc. from a culture why not also
include a folktale from that culture? I would also like to incorporate
more storytelling and storyreading and displaying books to interest kids in
the collection.
I think more question were raised than answers. I appreciate all the
responses. Thanks.
Jennifer
Jennifer McQuilkin Children's Librarian, Joplin Public Library
300 S. Main St. Email hzz006@mail.connect.more.net
Joplin, MO 64801-2384 (417)623-7953 phone, (417)624-5217 fax
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:22:02 -0500
From: Karen Sutherland <ksutherland@bplib.org>
Subject: Re: Free Expression
Hi!
I agree! Our jobs are to provide many services to children. What parent would
like her/his child to come to a library where they knew that child wouldn't be
safe? Have
we grown so callous that we don't care what happens to other people? In many
ways,
we are our brothers' keepers. We can encourage growth, wisdom, and just think
of
the joy we can give when we introduce exciting authors and books.
Karen Sutherland
cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us wrote:
> I must also go in Chuck's direction on this one. Carol Edwards stated that
> "Libraries are not in the business of protecting children, nurturing
them,
> providing safe places, teaching them how to grow, etc...We provide access
to
> information. Period." If that was my job description, I'd be a pretty
> lousy Children's Librarian.<snip>
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:01:08 +0000
From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
Subject: Re: choking hazardous books?
I'm going to get on my soapbox here. It seems to me that we have no
business putting out materials intended, for safety reasons, for
children older than the age group we bought them for. THEY MIGHT
BE DEADLY. If a car/book says, "Choke hazard, not intended for
children under three," then we need make sure no children under three
get it, even if it means discarding brand-new material. Several
people have responded that it became a moot point after a few
circulations because the wheels broke off. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY
WE SHOULD NOT BE CIRCULATING THEM. If packaging preschool
books in board format burns me up because they are inappropriate for
the board book audience, then packaging hazardous toys in board book
format makes me absolutely insane. Deaths from hazardous toys are
WHOLLY PREVENTABLE DEATHS. For more information on toy safety,
PIRGs have a good website: http://www.pirg.org/consumer/products/toy/tips.htm
I'll stop shouting now. Thank you.
Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Public Library (207)284-4181
270 Main Street http://www.mcarthur.lib.me.us
Biddeford, ME 04005 vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us
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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:42:56 -0400
From: ahendon@dorsai.org
Subject: Re: Graphic novels
Hi Holly - I'm sure there will be many different answers to this one.
At my branch the graphic novels are YA. Instead of intershelving
them with the YA fiction (which is in 2 short bookcases) they are
shelved on top of the bookcases, and there's a sign on the
bookend that says "YOUNG ADULT GRAPHIC NOVELS". They
do seem to be circulating from this location so that's good.
Alison
brooklyn Public Library
speaking only for myself
>
> Hi Pubyaccers,
>
> We are collecting more and more graphic novels in our 10 branch public
> library system. Currently, most of these are classified as juvenile
> fiction, but the audience is teen (YA). They seem to get lost with the
> juvenile chapter books. I'm not sure they would fare much better
> interfiled with YA novels.
>
> How do you classify these books in your libraries? How do you shelf or
> display? Please reply directly to me and I will post to the list if there
> is interest.
>
> Holly Varley
> Clermont County Public Library
> varleyho@oplin.lib.oh.us
>
>
Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org
"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
- Sarah Williams, "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil"
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