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Topics covered in this issue include: 1) PUBYAC settings change by "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com> 2) bookstores & libraries by Katy Obringer <katyobringer@juno.com> 3) Stumper-- Egg House by "Sue Peterson" <speterson@scld.org> 4) Inkheart by Aclasper@aol.com 5) Junie B Jones party by "Amy Frederick OH0227" <frederam@oplin.org> 6) RE: Graphic Novels by "Waarala,Karrie" <waaralak@cadl.org> 7) Fractured Fairy Tales Program Suggestions by Erika Burge <eburge@esls.lib.wi.us> 8) Re: Board Games by Larry & Tania Guyer <theguyers@pacbell.net> 9) Read A Likes like Sierra Jenson Series by Heather Ujhazy <heatherlynnu@yahoo.com> 10) School visit survey responses - long by "Deborah Cooper" <dcooper@starklibrary.org> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pyowner" <pyowner@pallasinc.com> To: "pubyac" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: PUBYAC settings change Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:49:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear PUBYACkers, Well, the spam is getting completely out of hand. I am going to reset a PUBYAC parameter so that the listserve will now accept postings only from registered subscribers. This means that anyone receiving this message will be able to post messages, but anyone who is not subscribed to the list will be rejected. The only problem I can think might happen is if the PUBYAC subscriber list has recorded your e-mail address in one format, but your e-mail system sends out as though you were coming from a slightly different format. For example, you may be subscribed as: someone@mail.library.org but your e-mail goes out as though it is coming from someone@library.org then PUBYAC would not recognize you as a subscriber. If this happens, let me know and we'll get your subscription into the correct format. Sorry to have to become more strict here, but so far today more spam came through the listprocessor than "real" messages. One good reason to have a moderator ! And as far as the Worm virus goes: I have determined that it did not originate from my machine. Apparently this virus's modus operandi is that it masks itself as originating from various e-mail addresses even when it's not really there. The thing that is totally freaking me out is that it indeed got through Listproc because a copy of the post is in Digest 1329. Now, when it comes through the listserver, Listproc chews up any attachment so that it cannot execute, but it still takes up a lot of bytes. I don't know if changing the parameters would help with this problem, but perhaps it will. Shannon VanHemert PUBYAC Moderator pyowner@pallasinc.com ------------------------------ From: Katy Obringer <katyobringer@juno.com> To: paula@saline.lib.mi.us Subject: bookstores & libraries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:02:47 CST Paula, keep up the good work. You remind me of myself! I would do like things. I am now a retired librarian as of 12/30/03 and I'm still doing like things. :-) It makes a huge difference. ------------------------------ From: "Sue Peterson" <speterson@scld.org> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Stumper-- Egg House MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:03:01 CST A 30ish customer is looking for a story from her childhood. The story is about a poor family with lots of children. A bird leaves a giant egg and the family makes scrambled eggs to feed everyone, and then builds a house in the eggshell. I have checked A to Zoo. Sound familiar? Please respond to me directly at speterson@scld.org. Thanks for your help in solving this one... Sue Peterson Spokane County Library District Spokane, Washington ------------------------------ From: Aclasper@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Inkheart Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:03:14 CST I agree. Inkheart by Cornelia Funke was one of the best books I have read in a long time. I could not put it down. It was beautifully written, and hard to believe that we are reading a translated version becaue it is so smooth flowing. My 16 year old daughter is engrossed in it at the moment, but I think boys would like it too Anne. ********************** Anne Clasper Youth Services Librarian Lockport Public Library Lockport, NY, 14094. ------------------------------ From: "Amy Frederick OH0227" <frederam@oplin.org> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Junie B Jones party Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:03:29 CST I am new to the list and have yet to figure out the archives... We are having a Junie B Jones party (A Mushy Gushy Valentimes Party)! We do have plans/ideas but would love to hear your success stories. Thanks! AF Amy Frederick Children's Specialist Carnegie Public Library Washington C.H., Ohio 43160 740-335-2540 ext 14 frederam@oplin.org ------------------------------ From: "Waarala,Karrie" <waaralak@cadl.org> To: "David Winkler-Schmit" <dschmit@gno.lib.la.us>, Subject: RE: Graphic Novels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:03:49 CST Capital Area District Library keeps most graphic novels in the YA = section. Any that are deemed a little too mature for teens are kept in = the adult nonfiction in the 741s. I'm personally all for them; we can't = keep them on the shelves here, and there's a few of the series of which = I'm an avid fan myself. Hope that helps, Karrie ----------------------------------------- Karrie Waarala Teen Services Librarian Capital Area District Library 401 S. Capitol Avenue Lansing, MI 48901 517-367-6327 waaralak@cadl.org -----Original Message----- From: David Winkler-Schmit [mailto:dschmit@gno.lib.la.us] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:38 PM To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Graphic Novels Dear Collective Brain, I'm not sure if this has been answered before, but where do you folks = =3D keep (if you do have them) copies of the graphic novel titles, "Sandman" = =3D or a little more on the rough side, "Preacher." Any input would be =3D appreciated even if you don't think anyone should carry these titles. ------------------------------ From: Erika Burge <eburge@esls.lib.wi.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Fractured Fairy Tales Program Suggestions MIME-version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:04:04 CST Thanks to everyone who provided suggestions and ideas for my fractured fairy tales evening. Someone asked that I post the responses: here are the suggestions that I received. You could select one of the books that you read and base a craft around that -- For instance, you could read "The Bootmaker And The Elves" by Susan Lowell and if you have a template or Ellison die for cowboy boots, have the kids decorate fancy boots with glitter, puffy paint, sparkle pens, buttons, rickrack, etc. Or, if you read "The True Story Of The Three Little Pigs" by Jon Scieszka, you could get together materials like straws, toothpicks and styrofoam blocks and have the kids team up and build houses that you could then display in the library. Create your characters out of felt or cardboard and set up a tableau that the kids can come back and see. Display their names with the house they worked on. If you do a variant on the Gingerbread Boy you can always incorporate a snack!! Better yet, get some plain gingerbread boy cookies and have kids decorate them with icing, candy, sprinkles, etc. and then let them eat! Photograph each child with his or her cookie and display the photos. Or, if you have a Polaroid, snap a photo that they can take home. Just a few suggestions I thought of off the top of my head. I drank coffee this morning, and I suspect that has something to do with the brainstorm inspired by your request!! Could you post fun replies to the list? HTH, Katrina Katrina Neville Youth Services Librarian San Diego County Library San Marcos Branch #2 Civic Center Drive San Marcos, CA 92069 t: (760) 891-3000 f: (760) 891-3015 e: kneville@sdcounty.ca.gov Have you considered writing a Mad-Lib style story which the kids could fill in as a group? It could go something like : "(Adj.) Red Riding Hood was (v.)ing through the woods one day on the way to (celebrity)'s house with a basket full of (adj.) (pl.n.)..." Review the parts of speech briefly in advance and give a few examples of each. Then go around the circle or just ask the participants to raise their hands if they have suggestions for whatever is needed. Read the completed version to the group. This type of activity has always been popular in our programs. You might want to have a second story on hand because the students usually want more! Some ask for copies of the original (before it is filled in) to take home to try on other people. Have fun! Janet Kreason Children's Librarian R. P. Flower Memorial Library Watertown, NY We did a program for Children's Book Week called "From the Mixed Up Files of the Brothers Grimm." We focused on fractured fairy tales. We promoted it heavily in the schools - asking them to share traditional fairy tales with the students, so they would get the fractured ones. They promoted the program on the morning announcements and let us distribute flyers. We also had "celebrity readers" from the schools, who also came in costume. We did give them stories to choose from, so we knew they would be appropriate & thematic. We invited everyone to come dressed as their favorite book character - staff too. We also had a display called "Test Your Fairy Tale IQ" with props from fairy tales - there were answer sheets where they could record their guesses. There were prizes for best costumes (silly categories - most magical, fuzziest, best villain, etc). Our teen librarian got lots of her teens to volunteer (they all came as the kids from Holes & decorated white t-shirts with their nicknames). We served refreshments (including chocolate covered in gold foil & Hershey's kisses - "treasure" and ginger snaps - for the gingerbread man). Good luck! We had a lot of fun with our program - we had over 130 people (including parents - it was an evening program). Amy Switzer Cleveland Heights-University Heights Public Library It seems to me that doing a mad lib would be a good way to fracture a fairy tale. You may need to create your own, but I doubt it. I'll bet there are sites that have them, and our fellow pubyaccers may know where they are. Peg Siebert Blodgett Library Fishkill, NY I've done fairy tale "mad libs" and flip books,both ideas are from Storycraft by Martha Seif Simpson and Lynne Perrigo. (highly recommended!) Good Luck & Have FUN ! Hope this helps, Laurie Harrison Riverhead (NY) FPL And a BIG thanks to Jennifer Baker. who shared many mad libs with me so that I didn't have to create all of them myself. --The madlibs were attachments, if anyone would like to see them please contact Jennifer or me. Thanks so much guys-- Erika Erika Burge Children's Librarian Cedarburg Public Library W63 N583 Hanover Avenue Cedarburg, WI 53012 ------------------------------ From: Larry & Tania Guyer <theguyers@pacbell.net> To: pubyac@prairienet.org, c.neirink@vlc.lib.mi.us Subject: Re: Board Games MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:04:21 CST Four popular games in the school library I work in are Mancala, Mastermind, Tic Tac Toe, and chess. They are used every single school day. Tatiana Guyer Library Coordinator Mayfield Junior School Pasadena, CA --- Christine Neirink <c.neirink@vlc.lib.mi.us> wrote: > I would like to buy 2 or 3 board games for > elementary school-aged > kids to play in the libary. Do any of you have > board games in your > children's departments? If so, what games are > especially popular > with the kids? Thanks! > > Christine Neirink > Children's Librarian > Bay County Library System > c.neirink@vlc.lib.mi.us > ------------------------------ From: Heather Ujhazy <heatherlynnu@yahoo.com> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Read A Likes like Sierra Jenson Series MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:04:36 CST Good Evening, I had a patron today who is requesting recommendations of book series or just book titles that her 10 year old daughter, who is reading at an 8th grade level, can read without the mother worrying about the content of the book being inappropriate. Her daughter has already read Sierra Jenson Series and the Christy Miller series and has liked these. Any suggestions any of you may have that would be appropriate for this patron's daughter would be greatly appreciated. Please email me directly at heatherlynnu@yahoo.com. Thanks Again for all your assistance. -Heather ------------------------------ From: "Deborah Cooper" <dcooper@starklibrary.org> To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: School visit survey responses - long content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:04:51 CST Hello again Yakkers, Below are the responses I received regarding the school visit survey. Thanks again for your help! Deb How many times per year do you visit schools? usually twice a year Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? no When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? I usually see several classes of one grade level in the library How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? no opinion Why do school visits? to introduce kiddos to the library and library programs, such as Summer Reading Program How important do you think school visits are to the library? I think they are important public relations opportunities How important are school visits to you? To the students? Yes, important to me; the kids like getting out of class for something a little bit different=09 What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) I have also attended careers days at schools and PTA programs Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits? yes; and no, but have done Reader's Theater and poetry readings in schools Thanks again, Deb How many times per year do you visit schools? AT least once. Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? No When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? We see several classes at a time-- as many as can fit in the school library at a time. How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? It depends on what you have to say. Why do school visits? Kids and school staff need to be reminded how good we are. How important do you think school visits are to the library? vital How important are school visits to you? To the students? What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) We also go to staff meeting and staff all-city workshops Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits?=3D20 We do skits How many times per year do you visit schools? Children's librarians usually visit elementary schools only once, at the end of the year to talk about Summer Reading Celebration.Occasionally teachers will call us to do presentations or book talks on specific subjects. Our YA librarian visits probably 2 or 3 times per year, at the request of language arts teachers, to do book talks, etc.=20 Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? Only the scheduling is difficult, the schools are usually happy to see us.=20 When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? We try to do one large group, or two or three at the most if we are presenting a program to all grade levels, to avoid having to make the presentation multiple times and be out of the building for a long time.=20 How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? It depends on how many elementary schools are in your service area. I think it would be nice to be able to visit once a quarter to announce library programs, do book talks, or present literature-based programs.=20 Why do school visits? To promote the Library, of course!=20 How important do you think school visits are to the library?If they get children to visit the library, then they are very important!!=20 How important are school visits to you? I used to be a teacher, so it is fun for me to be back in the schools. Other librarians may feel differently.=20 To the students? Again, it depends on the program. Students like to hear someone besides their teacher talking to them once in awhile. Also, book talks may stimulate interest in reading.=20 What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher=20 organizations?) Parenting programs are good. One thing I would love to start here, is a visit to a teacher meeting to explain Library services for teachers (Educator cards, ordering in books, Core collections of classroom sets, and other things we offer).=20 Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits?=3D20=20 When we do our SRC visits, we usually go with a partner, and occasionaly skits or songs or games are part of the visit.=20 I hope this helps!=20 =20 ow many times per year do you visit schools? Most of the time, the school actually come to us. We usually have them about 3 or 4 times during the year. We also attend an annual visit. (We also make once a month visits to our local Headstart) Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? No. The teachers tend to contact us. When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? When they visit here, we tend to have 2 classes at a time. When visiting there, we only see 1 class.=20 How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? I think 3 or 4 is an acceptable amount.=20 Why do school visits? It's our way of introducing the library to the children. In some cases, it's an opportunity for the children to receive their library card for the first time.=20 How important do you think school visits are to the library? We believe it's a great way to foster the public library-school partnership as well as guide the children into a love of reading and the library itself How important are school visits to you? To the students? I love doing them. The children are always very excited about taking out a library book, most especially the ones getting a brand new card. What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) We haven't done any Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits?=20 Skits? No Hope that helps Natalie =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Natalie Korsavidis Dear Deb, I'm the only person children and teens here, so time is precious, but I do make some school visits. They occur in May, just before Summer Reading Program and in the fall to Headstart, and I do 15 storytimes twice a year in the kindergarten classrooms (2) who responded to my offer--I like the kids to get to know my face and recognize me as friendly and approachable before they need to seek me out for homework/research help. I think the time is well spent. I tell the Headstarts and Kindergartens that maybe they'd like to return the visit and come to see me at the library, and they do. Hope you get useful response on this subject. Barbara G. Osborn, Youth Services Librarian Allegan (MI) Public Library bosborn@alleganlibrary.org (616) 673-4625 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Deborah Cooper" <dcooper@starklibrary.org> To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:43 PM Subject: School visits Deb: Our library is in a small community. There are about 600 students in the K-5 elementary school. I have worked as the children's librarian for two years. In our community, the teachers are very receptive to visits. I go in through special requests throughout the year, a classroom at a time. Once a year, the kindergarten comes to the library, two classes at a time, during their community helpers unit. The last two years I have read to the entire second grade once a week while the teachers have their planning meeting. Generally, I read several AR books. As we get into the second half of school, I read Gooney Bird Greene by Lois Lowry. After I have finished the book, we have a story-writing contest to see who can write the most interesting "absolutely true" story. I also do outreach to four preschools in the area. I enjoy going out to read. Occasionally, I will take a puppet or a flannel board story, but for the most part I just read. I think it benefits the teachers and the children. The children get to hear someone read to them other than their teacher. The group I read to weekly has over 100 children. I prefer a smaller group, as sometimes the ones that don't care to be read to distract the ones who do want to be read to. Our library has not had much success with in-house programs (preschool storytimes, etc.). The outreach gives us an opportunity to impact the community and show our state and county representatives the numbers that are always important when it comes time for budgets. Hope this helps. Tina Mauney Morton Public Library Morton, MS Hello Deb, I don't want the position of the media center person in the school, nor the position of the classroom teacher. Sometimes, people in these positions feel a little threatened by us. Silly, I know, but that is the truth as we have expereinced it here. After about ten years of working really hard to forge some kind of working relationships with the schools in the area our hard work is finally starting to pay off. As to your questions: Whenever a school calls requesting a visit we try our best to comply. Sometimes staffing the department is a problem. Nope. Some schools know us better than others, but usually it's not too hard. I prefer grade levels--it's just easier if you are booktalking, storytelling, or program plugging. We try to be fair and try not to spend all of our time at one school. Usually one visit and then again for summer reading. I love school visits. It gives the teachers, as well as the kids to see what we're about. A great school visit will get the kids in, so I believe they are important. To me? I love doing them and getting the kids revved up about books. The kids seem to enjoy the visits (and they are usually getting out of a class to come--they don't complain). Usually open houses and PTA nights are too "busy" to do anything other than a table presentation but I have done a book reading or story telling with a few kids gathered around. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. We used to do a skit thing for SR, but stopped a few years back when the department head went part time. The present Dept. Head doesn't care for skits. I don't care for them either. What works for me? I take bookmarks, sticks of gum, small candy bars and tell the kids to pay attention to what I'm saying because there will be a "quiz" at the end of the presentation for SR. They pay attention, I don't call on anyone who yells or jumps up, and viola! THEY REMEMBER!!!! Works well in small groups, too. (Just as an aside--I did some Caudill booktalking at a school a month or so ago. The kids were so attentive, the teachers loved it, the librarian was all smiles. She called me a few days later and told me that the principal was so impressed by the teachers enthusiasm and the response of the kids that he was able to get the PTA to give them money to buy extra copies of the "booktalked" books. It is not hard once you get a foot in the door. Keep calling, keep asking, stay enthused. After all, you love books and kids that's why you work in a library--your enthusiasm is contagious. Good luck!) =20 Margaret Tassione his is an interesting survey, and I hope you'll share the results. As a new programming coordinator, I'm sharing what we have done and what I plan to do, but I am open to new ideas myself. Because of staffing issues, we visit schools 1) in May, to promote the Vacation Reading Program for the summer and 2) no more than one additional visit per year. There are 13 public elementary schools and one primary school in our county, and with only 2 part-time staff I can't promise more than that. In reality, we rarely visit a school other than in May, but if asked I would make every effort to visit one other time per year. We do "tours" if a school (public, private, pre-, etc.) wants to come to us--but tours are usually given by the information department and not the programming department. As an alternative to VRP promotional school visits, we have done a videotape and sent it to the schools to air during their televised morning announcements. I think at one point there was a plan to alternate between taped "visits" one year and actual visits the next, and so on. However, I plan to visit every single year if possible. I think the face-to-face living breathing contact is important so that kids associate the public library with real people who are fun and approachable.=20 In the past, we have visited schools with a portable puppet stage and five staff (the programming dept. which is me and the 2 part-time staff plus the youth services information specialist from each branch). This year, I'm planning to do visits with only 2 or 3 staff, dividing up the schools. (Is that what you mean by "team" approach?) I don't know how difficult it will be to get into the schools, since this will be my first year actually coordinating the visits. In the past, nearly every school has invited us. Occasionally there have been some scheduling problems. Last year, we made an effort to visit each second grade, and I plan to continue that each year, so we're seeing a different bunch of second-graders each year. I'd like to see the whole school, but that's impossible given the numbers and the hours in a day. Good luck! Vanessa Cowie I am the school liaison in our youth services department. There is also one for YA. I visit schools and do booktalks mostly during National Library Week and Children's Book Week. We have a newsletter that goes out to all the school librarians and language arts teachers. We offer to booktalk in that publication and sometimes they will request a visit after they receive the newsletter. I find that the public librarian has to be aggresive in approaching schools because they do not usually think we will come to them. We also have a regular 4th grade research program with two large schools. The students come to us one class at a time for two weeks and learn to research using every part of the collection except the Internet. We also try to attend the beginning of the school year open houses. We bring a table display of all our publications and brochures and always have a give-away or raffle. One thing we have done only on a limited basis as it does not seem to increase our numbers, is school promotions for the summer reading club. It takes so much time even if it is done auditorium style as our service population has about 20 schools. For that we make promotional bookmarks and distribute to the schools.=20 Hope this helps. Vicki Lamm How many times per year do you visit schools?=20 * Used to be twice a year to each classroom, now it is less frequent=20 Do you find it difficult to get into the schools?=20 * It is getting more and more difficult with all the testing dates and pressure on teachers to prepare kids for tests.=20 When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)?=20 * Of the above three, seeing each class gives the best interaction between the kids and the librarian. Also, the librarian can establish a relationship with the teacher. But it is exhausting, time consuming and difficult to schedule.=20 How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year?=20 * One each year is the minimum, unless you have a school that sends its classes to you regularly.=20 Why do school visits?=20 * Several reasons. To promote library card registration, to remind teachers (and school librarians) to use the public library, to make your face familiar to the kids, and as an added benefit, to improve behavior IN the library. And of course, to get kids excited about reading in general, and wonderful books in particular.=20 How important do you think school visits are to the library?=20 * Very. They increase library card registrations, and they provide great PR with your community.=20 How important are school visits to you?=20 * Very=20 To the students?=20 * They enjoy the interruption from school work!=20 What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher=20 organizations?)=20 * Our schools are trying something new. We set up a table on a report-card-pick-up day, interacting with as many parents as possible, encouraging them to visit the library to get cards. If your goal is to have kids get library cards and to have kids brought to the library more often, then you need to reach their parents.=20 Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits? No.=20 Hi Deborah -- I'm going to try to answer your questions - but I'll begin by telling you that my municipal library serves a city of about 79,000 with 13, soon to be 14 public elementary schools, 2 large middle schools (gr. 6 -8) and a very large public high school (high school student population is close to 3,000). There are 2 full-time children's librarians, one in the branch library and one at the main library (me). How many times per year do you visit schools? We visit all the public elementary schools at least once during the school year -- we target 4th grades as a system wide program and the goal of the program is to remind older students that the library has some great books that are just for fun - so we booktalk some newer fiction and "fun" non-fiction. We also go back as often as invited to other classes - so I have done technology lessons based on the public library's website with third and fifth graders; author presentations with fifth grades; storytelling with kindergarteners and first graders. We also try to promote visits to the private and parochial schools in the area -- we have a Jewish school, 7 Catholic schools, a Christian school and some small academies. Some years they contact us, some years they don't. Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? We have an excellent relationship with the public schools - so no we don't find it difficult at all. Just a time problem fitting it all in! We have more of an uphill climb with the private schools - there is really seems to depend on ever changing faculty and principals. With many of the schools it seems we have to re-introduce ourselves each year. When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? That depends on the purpose of the visit. With the ones we do on a regular basis, we do it one or two classes at time. (We have several elementary schools with several classes per grade level - most have at least 2 - one has 5 fourth grades and one has 7 fourth grades!) But I have done large presentations as well on occasion. How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? I don't think there is an answer to this -- it really depends on why you are doing the visits. We have definite goals for each visit. But I do try to honor any request from a school - so we've gone in as guest storytellers for Read Across America Day and National Reader's Day. I've visited classrooms during Children's Book Week and National Library Week, as well as other "random" times. Why do school visits? How important do you think school visits are to the library? How important are school visits to you? To the students? I think they are quite important. We have a large number of immigrants in our city (we have 63 native languages represented in the school system). Many come from cultures and countries where there is no public library available - at least not like we have it here. My visiting the classroom extends a personal invitation to the child to visit me and the library. I can't tell you how often I hear "Remember me? You came to my school." Of course I remember them all :) We have gotten a larger number of children coming in for the books we have booktalked - and they seem more willing to take other suggestions from me once they have heard me talk to their class. Just my presence in the school has prompted teachers to ask for suggestions and help from the public library, and has led to some (a few, but better than none) telling us about assignments in advance! And I hope for the kids it has at least given them a familiar face so that they feel more comfortable asking for help when they come in. Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits? We don't do it very often -- with so many schools to visit, it's hard for us to schedule them all in - and almost impossible for two staff people to go at the same time. Although the YA librarian and I both visited all the 6th grades in one middle school this year together - since that is traditional the year kids move out of the children's room and into the YA section in our library. But it was difficult getting all the classes done (there were about 30 of them.) What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) I'm not sure I would consider these alternatives - just additional things to try. We have also done presentations to PTA's (on the library in general, especially during our building project; on internet safety and on other topics). We've also been included in presentations to in-coming kindergarten parents on the importance of reading; we've talked to the high school parenting class on how and why to use books with babies and young children; and we have spoken at open houses. We've also participated in the city parades and picnics, at the annual Health and Safety Fair, etc. Anything that will make people remember and think about the library! Oh, yes, we also have classes come to the library. We visit all the 4th grades in the public schools, but every single 1st grade tours the library. For some it's the first time they have been in the library. We tour the building, talk about checking books out, tell a story - and sometimes give out library cards -- that's up to the teacher, who needs to give out registration forms and have them signed by the parents in advance. But every child is given a coupon to redeem when they come back again - they get to see one "back" room that we don't show during the tour and get a free picture of their hand on the copy machine -- yes, I know, not a big deal -- but the kids get very excited! Hope all this helps.=20 Pat Vasilik How many times per year do you visit schools? I see every class in the regional district twice a year. In the beginning of=20 the school year, they visit me at the library to learn about library services;=20 at the end of the year I visit them to promote the summer reading program. * Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? Nope - school support is the key, I have a great working relationship with all=20 the school librarians. For example, in the beginning of the year, when we're=20 ready to do school visits, I give each of them a schedule of times that I'm=20 available for class visits and they go to the teachers for me and schedule=20 their own times within that range. Usually it works, when it doesn't, the=20 school librarians call me and we figure out a new plan to get the class that=20 can't make it there. Another thing I recommend is to schedule yourself to be put on the agenda for=20 a school staff meeting. Go, introduce yourself, tell them what you're about=20 and how they can help you. I also print up cards for each of them to keep so=20 that they can be in contact with me. Once again, I do this twice a year for=20 each school. In the beginning to introduce myself and meet the new teachers=20 and talk about what's planned for the library in the year ahead. And at the=20 end of the school year I briefly visit the last staff meeting to collect all=20 of the summer reading lists from teachers. * When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one=20 grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? If one class at a time is not possible, I prefer to see one grade at a time -=20 or a couple of classes in the same grade. The message that I need to get to=20 4th and 5th grade youths is different from the message (and the delivery) that=20 Kindergarten and 1st need/want. Within my district I do have one school that=20 is very small and I've addressed them auditorium-style, and that has worked,=20 but was not nearly as interesting for the kids to hear because it was a very=20 generic library presentation, not the fun things I can do with smaller groups=20 of kids of the same level. * How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? I think this depends largely on the school district your library serves and=20 how much youth service staff you have. Here at my library, I'm the only youth=20 service librarian, we're in a largely rural area in Vermont - actually, we're=20 a very strange area, while we live in the town of Rockingham there are several=20 villages spread out that make it up. So, the upshot is I visit 3 elementary=20 schools, 2 private schools, 1 middle school (public), and 1 high school=20 (public). To get to all of the classes it usually takes me about 2 weeks per=20 visiting session - 4 weeks total a year. * Why do school visits? Why not? By visiting a class you have the opportunity to speak to a captive=20 audience of your primary demographic about all the wonderful things you are a=20 doing. Sending out flyers and press releases are certainly one way to do get=20 the message out, but they don't get into the kids' heads the way talking and=20 engaging them directly does. When you do this during the school day you allow=20 the schools to reinforce to their students (and teachers) how important the=20 library is. =20 You also have the opportunity to connect with students in a way that competes=20 with material products and other distractions. Looking at the studies created=20 by advertising companies on the modern tween-age child, you will quickly learn=20 that contemporary youths are looking for a synergy and availability in=20 relevant services and products, be it cereal, television, or books. By=20 visiting schools you have the opportunity to demonstrate that you can work=20 with another service that they are a part of (schools), and with their=20 (hopefully) undivided attention you can link your services and collection to=20 other parts of their lives, be it homework, after school stuff, books on sports, skateboard magazines, jokes, whatever. One of my "tricks" to getting=20 to this point is to have them yell out their interests to me, I have a=20 volunteer pulled from the class write them down, and then I proceed to point=20 out how their interests are at the library. I should mention that I do try to=20 predict some of their interests and bring examples, like skateboarding and=20 teen mags, cool new books, and whatever else I think they may yell out. Another point about visiting classes: you have the opportunity to study them. =20 The first year that I did school visits - after getting permission from the=20 school - I did a survey. I needed to find out why kids that could be using=20 the library weren't. Who were they? Where? And what they wanted from the=20 library. Boy, kids are honest! I learned that many stayed away because of=20 their perception of "unfriendly librarians" (they had a point); library=20 materials that weren't interesting (I won't get into that, but they had a good=20 point there), ridiculous and restricting rules on kids, and the list goes on=20 of all the reasons they weren't going to come in. So, learning about all of=20 the issues has helped me change services and work on rules and policies that=20 are both important to the library to keep, but also need adjusting for the=20 real kids that come in. The hard part about that kind of survey is the lack=20 of response it required from me. In order for the kids to talk to me I had to=20 listen and accept what they said, not get into argue and defend mode=20 (especially when they're suggesting things that aren't going to=20 happen. "Okay.....so you want a pool table and large screen TV, let me write it=20 on the list. How about books about playing pool? Or games and puzzles?") * How important do you think school visits are to the library? As important, if not more, than any other advertising that I do for library=20 programs and services. =20 * How important are school visits to you? To the students? Very important and completely worth the time that it takes for them to be=20 done. To the students it is also important, over the past few years kids have=20 told me that the visits help them know things that are going on at the library=20 that they are into. Additionally, since I started them library card=20 possession has gone up. We can boast that just over 80% of the kids in our=20 primary serving area have a current library card - I'm aiming for 100%. * What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during=20 school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) As I mentioned before I do visit the school staff by having myself put on the=20 agenda for their meetings. I have considered meeting with the PTO, but=20 haven't yet followed through with it. * Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits?=20 Yes, one of the most popular visits was two years ago. I wrote a skit and=20 pulled kids from the class to help put it on. The skit was called "My trip to=20 the library" and in it there were certain words that were repeated over and=20 over, and each time a word was repeated the kids had to do or say something. =20 For example, every time I mentioned "rain" one of them got to spray a water=20 bottle (they *all* wanted that one), or for "magazine" the kid would=20 say "flip, flip, oh he's cute!", or "book" the youth would say "gotta love=20 em". It was fun, the kids were great sports, I had undivided attention from=20 the audience - who was also having a good time, and through the skit I was=20 able to cover pretty much every major service that the library offers to them,=20 which left lots of time for questions from me to them and vice versa. I have=20 taken a co-worker before, but I have to say that it really wasn't necessary=20 for the class visit. Hope this helps, call or email if you would like more information. ~Sam I'm interested in responses you get. We are one library serving about 75,000 population, but we have about 14 elementary, 4 middle and 2 high schools in our ISD (although there are a lot more in the ISD not in our "City limits". We used to visit each elementary once a year to promote summer reading. We never found it hard to get it for our visits. Two years ago we decided to cut it in half and do half the schools each year. The first year we also prepared a video to go to the schools that we could not visit, but didn't get it made last year. Our stats last year were up about 17%, so that in and of itself, didn't seem to matter. We registered almost 5,000 people last year, including our teen and adult programs. The children's' SRP registered over 3000 and we had about a 59% completion rate. I think our school visits are part of the reason, but we are also serve a highly educated, reading and book buying population. Our school visits are a big deal and very time consuming. We do use two people for each visit and we do a skit. It really is a performance, not just a talk about the library. Teachers and librarians always tell us how good we are, and how much they and the kids enjoy our visits. We get the kids all fired up about the reading program and the special performers we will have at the library. We see about 350 per performance, usually K-2 and 3-5. We get kids who remember us for years, and they see a familiar face when they come to the library. When I send the letter to the schools about SRP, I offer to do open houses or PTA's, and if we are invited we always go, although we don't do more than about two or three a year. I've never done class visits or booktalking, and feel "guilty" - there's always so much more we COULD be doing.=20 We have two full time and one 30 hour per week person in children's. We do not have a separate children's reemergence area, nor do we staff a separate children's desk, but are exploring that possibility. We do 11 programs per week (4 unique programs, with repeats) almost year round. We have been voted the best library in the Central Texas area by Austin Family Magazine for the last two years. Most of my job is collection development, and our collection is very good. (After seeing the PUBYAC thread on books vs. collection, our collection is not suffering due to programs.)=20 Janette Johnston, Children's Services Manager ear Deborah, I am a former (retired) school librarian who is now a public librarian in the youth=20 department, so I have seen both sides of your question. I have to admit that as a=20 school librarian I had very little interest in working with public librarians. School=20 librarians have SO many hats to wear and SO many constituencies to satisfy that=20 there's very little time to collaborate with anyone else. Also, school librarians are=20 expected to do so much programming in conjunction with school events (to say=20 nothing of Dr. Seuss' birthday and School Library Media Month and National=20 Poetry Month, etc., etc.) that there's little motivation to do outside programming. =20 Many schools even do their own summer reading program, competing (without=20 meaning to!) with publlic libraries! =20 On the other hand, as I do programming for my public library, I hope for=20 cooperation and publicity from our local schools -- because I can do publicity in=20 other venues, but there's no substitute for hitting kids in their schools. The only=20 success we've had is with programs that don't duplicate what's going on in the=20 schools. So my suggestion, which I'm trying to do (and actually having some=20 success with) is meeting each media specialist personally (some I take lunch to;=20 others I meet whenever they're free) and creating a personal relationship so that=20 when I want to publicize a program they're willing to help. So don't be discouraged if there's not a great response for you; remember that=20 everyone not only has their own responsibilities but also their own audience to=20 satisfy! Good luck! Phyllis Weeks How many times per year do you visit schools?=20 2 times. In September, only 1st grade classes for library card promotion. May/June, all classes for Summer Reading. Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? no When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)?=20 I have done all three. It really depends on time for both me and the school. I think I get a better response with one classroom at a time. How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year?=20 Depends on your goals & programming Why do school visits? To let the children know about the library. How important do you think school visits are to the library? It's a form of outreach. Anytime I can get the library infront of our patrons I think it's important. Is it the most effective way? I don't know. But, at this time it's are the only way we get the information home. We've tried leaving it up to the teachers with bleak results. How important are school visits to you? To the students? I enjoy them, and I believe the children and teachers enjoy them. I really do try to work around the teachers though. I always remember that the students are there to learn and if a teacher is in the middle of a lesson I will adjust my schedule. What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) I have tried attending PTA meetings, Open House & Back to School. I really believe that we need to make the connection with the parents. After all they are the ones that will bring their children. To date, these attempts have not been very successful. Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits?=20 Yes, when a new librarian had to do an assembly and was unsure of herself. BUT it means 2 people are out of the office. Don't have that much time or manpower. Gail Van Vranken Deborah, my replies inserted below. My replies are based on the past 7 years I was in a branch library. I left in August to become branch services manager. Susanna ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------------------------------------ How many times per year do you visit schools? 7-9, depending on teacher requests. Usually September-April, once a month per school, then the summer program promotion in May. Special events/visits as requested, if we can fit it in the schedule. Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? Not at all. When I first moved to that branch, I visited each school principal and librarian. I told them I wanted to set up regular visits and they were delighted. As administrations changed, there were a few bumps until the new person realized that what I was doing was something the teachers and students wanted. When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? One or two classes at a time for monthly visits. I was usually there 30 minutes, book talking, reading, storytelling, promoting library programs. I found it much more effective to work with groups of 60 or less. How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? Once a month per school seemed right for me. I had time to plan and select materials, the schools didn't see me as a substitute they could dump on (and that can happen!), and the kids looked forward to each visit--as I did myself. Why do school visits? To interact with the school staff and admin, provide kids with one face they know when they come to the library, to increase awareness of both students and staff of the wealth of materials and services we offer, to find out what's going on in the schools and identify ways to partner with them if possible, to remind everyone over and over where we are, what we do, and what we have for them, to promote programs, recruit future teen volunteers.....and so many more reasons. How important do you think school visits are to the library? Very, I considered them major outreach opportunities. If we don't go there, they often can't come to us, and how will the kids ever get to know who and what we are? Teachers too--many of them never darkened the library's doors until I began making these visits. How important are school visits to you? To me, this was an opportunity as a branch manager to keep my skills brushed up on the children's materials. It also impacted my planning--I could hear from the kids what they were interested in and plan programs based on that, and also be sure the collection was updated to meet these interests (yoyos were a biggie a few years ago, for example--we had a yoyo contest, found a guy in our area who used to be a national champ to do a program, bought books and videos. Also to network with teachers and admin, that is priceless to a librarian. To the students? Well, they loved it, of course. I provided a break in the routine, and they loved my storytelling. I was also able to tell them what we had on the topics they were interested in or for the assignments they had. And they got to know me so the library was not such an unfamiliar place when they came to visit. What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) We did some open house things, some library card signups, kindergarten registration. Every year I told ghost stories around the campfire for one school's outdoor classroom event. Teachers sometimes called to request a special presentation on a particular topic, and we'd do that. We always mailed enough copies of our calendar for each teacher to have one. Three schools had summer programs, and we did off-site summer library clubs for them. So the kids got the same prizes, etc. We knew these kids had few opportunities to come to the library, and we needed to go where they were. Hard work, but it was very successful. We also arranged some of our major summer presenters to do programs at the biggest summer school (over 200 kids there). Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Yes, for the summer program promotion. We divided up the visits--I did elementary schools, and another staff member did preschools and daycares. That worked well for us. Skits? For the SLC promotion, not for other visits. Susanna How many times per year do you visit schools? 1 visit before the Summer Reading Program Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? Yes. The teachers/principal have a lot scheduled. When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? Whatever is easier for the school. Most prefer grade level/auditorium style. How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? I wonder if our 1 visit actually helps. Why do school visits? Only to promote the Summer Reading Club. How important do you think school visits are to the library? not sure How important are school visits to you? To the students? I like to see the students in their own environment and they like to see me (If they remember me from the library), but I sometimes think they are not necessary. What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) I did write a letter introducing myself which was handed out at all the open houses. When parents came in, they said how great that was. Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits? No Hi, I used to visit all 4 elementary schools in my school district. The last 2 years I have concentrated on the 2 closest schools to my library & the ones in which I have good working relationships with the librarians. I visit these 2 schools twice a year, once to promote the summer reading program & once to promote our Kids Choice Award (grades 4 & 5 only) The librarians contact the teachers & I speak to a grade level at a time (usually 4 classes of kids) For the summer program I try to come up with an interactive presentation; have kids hold signs or props, wear costumes etc to promote what I'm talking about. Puts the attention on their friends, not on me!! I like that. I've done trivia contests with the older kids (4th & 5th) That can get kind of rowdy when there are 100 kids in a room. For our Kids Choice Award, I book talk 15 titles, again using props & funny hats. The kids love it. =20 The more school visits I do, the more important I think they become. I build relationships with librarians & teachers. Kids recognize me & know that I am from the public library. Nothing promotes a library program like a personal visit. Parents will regard you as part of their child's educational network. Plus, you can't beat the hugs from those kindergarteners & 1st graders!! Our library also has a table at the fall open house, where we hand out flyers, library card applications etc. Another great way to make contact with parents & children. If you have a limited amount of time, chose one school & concentrate on building a relationship there. Then branch out. Good Luck Terry Zignego Delafield Public Library How many times per year do you visit schools? We visit each school once a year in May before Summer Reading begins > Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? The schools near me are usually open to it, some of the schools in the county are not > When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one > class at a time, one > grade level at a time, or the entire school > (auditorium style)? I like one grade at a time. That way you can gear your presentation to the age group. One class at a time is hard. You would be there for weeks and it's just not as fun without a crowd. > How many school visits do you think is an acceptable > amount per year? As many as that school will allow and your schedule will allow > Why do school visits? promote summer reading > How important do you think school visits are to the > library? I don't think it brings in that many kids for summer but it is a nice gesture. And the kids who do come are excited that they saw you at school. >=20 What are some alternatives to the traditional school > visit? (both during > school's open house, table or presentation to > parent/teacher > organizations?)I've done a table at the PTA meeting a couple of times. It doesn't seem really effective. It depends on how many people show for the meeting. >=20 Jennifer Wells How many times per year do you visit schools? 2 Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? no When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time, one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? One grade level How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? 2 or 3 Why do school visits? promote the summer reading, promote other programs, guest reader for Read Across America How important do you think school visits are to the library? important How important are school visits to you? important To the students? important What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher organizations?) putting flyers for library visits on the bulletin boards, making flyers for distribution to each child by the school, putting info. in the PTO or school newsletters. Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Yes, our school system is a cooperative including three towns. The librarians for all three towns come to the schools together to promote the summer reading program for each of their libraries. Skits? no=20 Hi Deb, Hope this helps... > > How many times per year do you visit schools? minimum of 3x > Do you find it difficult to get into the schools? no, worked with principals, lmc folks and reading coordinators over the years to bring our literacy mission home to them...now its expected > When visiting the schools, do you prefer to see one class at a time,=20 > one grade level at a time, or the entire school (auditorium style)? Depends on school size...for large schools we often see grade levels at a time; small schools with one class per grade might be classroom by classroom and teeny schools (under 100 students) we see altogether. If seeing by grade level isn't feasible & we need to do auditorium style we try to see kids by k-1/2-3/4-5 to keep interest levels the same at least > How many school visits do you think is an acceptable amount per year? 2-4x (we work it out so we take booktalks out in Jan and March and SLP promotion in May). Ocassionally we also go in to do a storytelling program or something as well > Why do school visits? Self selected, in-person library visits (at a minimum of once a year) by kids or families maybe involve 50-70% of the child population served. Not all teachers bring classes in for tours. So outreach to schools brings librarians out, lets us share news about programs, books, events, and cool stuff the library has while helping kids (and teachers) become familiar with their local children's folks and wealth of library resources > How important do you think school visits are to the library? Extremely. It keeps the kids in touch with us and visa versa. It is sometimes difficult to carve the time out but we consider it our main school age programming (we also offer evening and afternoon programs but don't get the response of new library users or increased library-walk-ins that we see after a outreach visit). The benefits of highlighting our great books and having a conversational and welcoming opportunity that highlights the friendly liobrarians and cool resources is like Mastercard's ads: priceless. > How important are school visits to you? To the students? Vast majority of teachers and all the principals and LMC folks have welcomed the visits. They have facilitated our presence. key in the process was developing an excellent working realtionship and -again- stressing our primary mission of literacy for kids. Students come into the library more, talk to us about books more and look for recommendations from us. They feel more comfortable with us and invested in our library because of the increased familiarity with us. > What are some alternatives to the traditional school visit? (both=20 > during school's open house, table or presentation to parent/teacher > organizations?) Although we do open houses; tables and etc, direct contact with students has been far more effective in fostering a stronger link between kids, schools and libraries. > Have you tried a "team" approach for school visits? Skits? Not usually...just not enough staff to have 2 people gone at once. We divide the schools among the librarian staff and we each "adopt" a couple. Helps spresad the workload and lets kids get to know the many staffers! > Thanks again, > Deb > Marge Loch-Wouters Deborah Cooper Jackson Township Branch Library 330-833-1010 dcooper@starklibrary.org All you have to do is to decide what to do with the time that is given to you...Gandalf ------------------------------ End of PUBYAC Digest 1331 *************************
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